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[Pictus Cat]

4.16 Tex Vince Young, QB8 TEN

8.16 Tex Josh McCown, QB26 OAK

1.01 Tex LaDanian Tomlinson, RB1 SDG

2.16 Tex Carnell Williams, RB22 TB

11.01 Tex Anthony Thomas, RB50 BUF

13.01 Tex Kevan Barlow, RB56 PIT

3.01 Tex Anquan Boldin, WR9 ARZ

5.01 Tex Santana Moss, WR24 TB

7.01 Tex Vincent Jackson, WR34 SD

10.16 Tex Peerless Price, WR62 BUF

18.16 Tex Roddy White, WR94 ATL

6.16 Tex Jason Witten, TE9

9.01 Tex Eric Johnson, TE14 NO

17.01 Tex Zach Miller, TE28 OAK

14.16 Tex Joe Nedney, K11 SF

16.16 Tex Phil Dawson, K24 CLE

12.16 Tex Dallas D/ST10

15.01 Tex Oakland, D/ST15

6.15 Thome Yorke Brett Farve, QB16

7.02 Thome Yorke Ben Roethlisberger, QB17 PIT

1.02 Thome Yorke Steven Jackson, RB2 STL

2.15 Thome Yorke Deuce McAllister, RB21 NO

16.15 Thome Yorke Correll Buckhalter, RB57 PHI

17.02 Thome Yorke Michael Bennett, RB58 KC

3.02 Thome Yorke Roy Williams, WR10 DET

5.02 Thome Yorke Joey Galloway, WR25 TB

8.15 Thome Yorke Derrick Mason, WR45 BAL

9.02 Thome Yorke Eddie Kennison, WR46 KC

10.15 Thome Yorke Joe Jurevicius, WR61 CLE

18.15 Thome Yorke David Patten, WR93 NO

4.15 Thome Yorke Jeremy Shockey, TE4 NYG

11.02 Thome Yorke Daniel Graham, TE17 DEN

14.15 Thome Yorke Olindo Mare, K10 NO

15.02 Thome Yorke John Kasay, K12 CAR

13.02 Thome Yorke Denver, D/ST11

12.15 Thome Yorke Philadelphia D/ST9

6.14 Abrecher Matt Leinart, QB15

8.14 Abrecher Matt Shaub, QB25 HOU

14.14 Abrecher Brady Quinn, QB CLE

1.03 Abrecher Brian Westbrook, RB3 PHI

4.14 Abrecher DeAngelo Williams, RB29 CAR

7.03 Abrecher Reuben Droughns, RB39 NYG

18.14 Abrecher Garrett Wolfe, RB63 CHI

2.14 Abrecher Terrell Owens, WR7 DAL

3.03 Abrecher TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR11 CIN

9.03 Abrecher Isaac Bruce, WR47 STL

10.14 Abrecher Arnaz Battle, WR60 SF

12.14 Abrecher Bobby Wade, WR73 MIN

5.03 Abrecher TE Kellen Winslow, TE5 CLE

11.03 Abrecher Desmond Clark, TE18 CHI

13.03 Abrecher Adam Vinatieri, K1 IND

16.14 Abrecher Ryan Longwell, K23 MIN

15.03 Abrecher Green Bay,D/ST16

17.03 Abrecher Houston, D/ST29

4.13 Glumpy Jon Kitna, QB7 DET

5.04 Glumpy Tony Romo, QB9 DAL

6.13 Glumpy Jake Delhomme, QB14

1.04 Glumpy Reggie Bush, RB4 NO

2.13 Glumpy Ronnie Brown, RB20 MIA

7.04 Glumpy Mike Bell, RB40 DEN

3.04 Glumpy Randy Moss, WR12 NE

8.13 Glumpy Drew Bennett, WR44 STL

9.04 Glumpy Mike Furrey, WR48 DET

10.13 Glumpy Bryant Johnson, WR59 ARZ

13.04 Glumpy Dwayne Jarrett, WR74 CAR

15.04 Glumpy Steve Smith, WR82 NYG

18.13 Glumpy Brad Smith, WR92, NYJ

16.13 Glumpy Alex Smith, TE27 TB

17.04 Glumpy George Wrighster, TE28 JAX

14.13 Glumpy Josh Scobee, K9 JAX

11.04 Glumpy Carolina D/ST5

12.13 Glumpy Pittsburgh D/ST8

4.12 FFDude69 Marc Bulger, QB6 STL

8.12 FFDude69 Jason Campbell QB24 WAS

13.05 FFDude69 A Feeley, QB33 PHI

1.05 FFDude69 Larry Johnson, RB5 KC

2.12 FFDude69 Willis McGahee, RB19 BAL

7.05 FFDude69 Brandon Jackson RB41 GB

12.12 FFDude69 Chris Brown RB56 TEN

3.05 FFDude69 Andre Johnson, WR13 HOU

5.05 FFDude69 Reggie Brown, WR26 PHI

9.05 FFDude69 Brandon Jones, WR49 TEN

10.12 FFDude69 Bobby Engram WR58 SEA

11.05 FFDude69 Drew Carter WR63 CAR

6.12 FFDude69 Chris cooley, TE8 W

18.12 FFDude69 R. Royal TE BUF

14.12 FFDude69 Stephen Gostkowski, K8 NE

17.05 FFDude69 Jeff Reed K25 PIT

15.05 FFDude69 Buffalo D/ST17

16.12 FFDude69 St. Louis, D/ST28

3.06 Evilgrin Carson Palmer, QB2 CIN

9.06 Evilgrin Byron Leftwich, QB27 JAX

1.06 Evilgrin Frank Gore, RB6 SF

4.11 Evilgrin LenDale White, RB28 TEN

5.06 Evilgrin Warrick Dunn, RB30 ATL

11.06 Evilgrin Kevin Faulk, RB51 NE

2.11 Evilgrin Marvin Harrison, WR6 IND

6.11 Evilgrin D. J. Hackett, WR33

7.06 Evilgrin Donte Stallworth, WR35 NE

8.11 Evilgrin Devery Henderson, WR43 NO

13.06 Evilgrin Ted Ginn, WR75 MIA

18.11 Evilgrin Samie Parker, WR91 KC

10.11 Evilgrin Marcus Pollard, TE16 SEA

12.11 Evilgrin Marcedes Lewis, TE21 JAX

14.11 Evilgrin Greg Olsen, TE26 CHI

16.11 Evilgrin Rob Bironas, K22 TEN

17.06 Evilgrin Mason Crosby, K26 GB

15.06 Evilgrin Seattle D/ST18

2.10 Atomic Punk Peyton Manning, QB1 IND

9.07 Atomic Punk Tarvaris Jackson QB28 MIN

1.07 Atomic Punk Shaun Alexander, RB7 SEA

3.07 Atomic Punk Ahman Green RB23 GB

5.07 Atomic Punk Lamont Jordon, RB31 OAK

10.10 Atomic Punk Chris Henry RB49 TEN

4.10 Atomic Punk Chris Chambers WR23 MIA

6.10 Atomic Punk Calvin Johnson, WR32 DET

7.07 Atomic Punk Ronald Curry, WR42 OAK

11.07 Atomic Punk Michael Jenkins WR64 ATL

12.10 Atomic Punk Wes Welker, WR72 NE

17.07 Atomic Punk Chris Henry, WR85 CIN

8.10 Atomic Punk Dallas Clark, TE13 IND

18.10 Atomic Punk Jeremy Stevens, TE29 TB

14.10 Atomic Punk Davis Akers K7 PHI

15.07 Atomic Punk Josh Brown, K13 SEA

13.07 Atomic Punk New York Jets D/ST12

16.10 Atomic Punk Kansas City, D/ST27

4.09 Lhucks Donovan McNabb QB5 PHI

13.08 Lhucks Charlie Frye, QB34 CLE

1.08 Lhucks Willie Parker, RB8 PIT

2.09 Lhucks Edgerin James, RB18 ARZ

10.09 Lhucks Dominic Rhodes, RB48 OAK

11.08 Lhucks Adrian Peterson, RB52 CHI

3.08 Lhucks Marques Colston, WR14 NO

5.08 Lhucks Terry Glenn, WR27 DAL

7.08 Lhucks Muhsin Muhammad, WR36 CHI

8.09 Lhucks Matt Jones, WR41 JAX

17.08 Lhucks Ernest Wilford, WR86 JAX

12.09 Lhucks Ashlie Lelie, WR71 SF

18.09 Lhucks Rod Smith, WR90 DEN

6.09 Lhucks Alge Crumpler, TE7 ATL

14.09 Lhucks Jeff Wilkins, K6 SL

15.08 Lhucks Neil Rackers, K14 ARI

9.08 Lhucks Chicago D/ST1

16.09 Lhucks Arizona, D/ST26

6.08 Jmills Michael Vick, QB13 ATL

7.09 Jmills Jay Cutler, QB18 DEN

1.09 Jmills Joseph Addai, RB9 IND

4.08 Jmills Brandon Jacobs RB27 NYG

5.09 Jmills Chester Taylor, RB34 MIN

17.09 Jmills Brian Leonard, RB59 STL

2.08 Jmills Donald Driver, WR8 GB

3.09 Jmills Lee Evans, WR15 BUF

9.09 Jmills Joe Horn, WR50 ATL

10.08 Jmills Amani Toomer, WR57 NYG

11.09 Jmills Sidney Rice, WR65 MIN

16.08 Jmills Nate Burleson, WR84 SEA

8.08 Jmills Heath Miller, TE12 PIT

13.09 Jmills Tony Scheffler, TE22 DEN

14.08 Jmills Robbie Gould, K5 CHI

18.08 Jmills Shaun Suisham, PK30 WAS

12.08 Jmills Miami D/ST7

15.09 Jmills Tampa Bay D/ST19

6.07 Bundy Phillip Rivers, QB12 SD

8.07 Bundy JP Losman, QB23 BUF

1.10 Bundy Lawrence Maroney, RB10 NE

2.07 Bundy Marion Barber III, RB17 DAL

5.10 Bundy Tatum Bell, RB32 DET

12.07 Bundy Tony Hunt, RB55 PHI

17.10 Bundy Kenny Irons, RB60 CIN

3.10 Bundy Javon Walker, WR16 DEN

4.07 Bundy Deion Branch WR22 SEA

9.10 Bundy Anthony Gonzalez, WR51 IND

10.07 Bundy Keyshawn Johnson, WR56 NBC

11.10 Bundy Mike Williams, WR66 OAK

7.10 Bundy LJ Smith, TE9 PHI

13.10 Bundy Bo Scaife, TE23 TEN

15.10 Bundy Matt Stover, K15 BAL

18.07 Bundy Justin Medlock, K29 KC

14.07 Bundy San Francisco D/ST14

16.07 Bundy Atlanta D/ST25

4.06 Pictus Tom Brady, QB4 NE

8.06 Pictus Rex Grossman, QB22 CHI

1.11 Pictus Clinton Portis, RB11 WAS

6.06 Pictus Deshaun Foster, RB38 CAR

7.11 Pictus Vernand Morency, RB42 GB

17.11 Pictus Michael Robinson, RB61 SF

2.06 Pictus Larry Fitzgerald, WR5 ARZ

3.11 Pictus Hines Ward, WR17 PIT

9.11 Pictus Brandon Marshall, WR52 DEN

12.06 Pictus Dwayne Bowe, WR70 KC

13.11 Pictus Derek Hagan, WR76 MIA

14.06 Pictus Hank Baskett, WR81 PHI

5.11 Pictus Vernon Davis, TE6 SF

10.06 Pictus Owen Daniels, TE15 HOU

15.11 Pictus Jay Feely, K16 MIA

16.06 Pictus Martin Gramatica, K21 DAL

11.11 Pictus Jacksonville D/ST6

18.06 Pictus Detroit, D/ST31

8.05 Radballs Steve McNair, QB21 BAL

12.05 Radballs JaMarcus Russell, QB32 OAK

1.12 Radballs Rudi Johnson, RB12 CIN

5.12 Radballs Kevin Jones, RB33 DET

9.12 Radballs Leon Washington, RB44 NYJ

17.12 Radballs Noah Herron, RB62, GB

2.05 Radballs Torry Holt, WR4 STL

3.12 Radballs Braylon Edwards, WR18 CLE

6.05 Radballs Darrell Jackson, WR31 SF

7.12 Radballs Jerry Porter, WR37 OAK

13.12 Radballs Brandon Lloyd, WR77 WAS

4.05 Radballs Tony Gonzales, TE3 KC

11.12 Radballs Chris Baker, TE19 NYJ

14.05 Radballs Nate Kaeding, K4 SD

15.12 Radballs Sebastian Janikowski, K17 OAK

10.05 Radballs New England, D/ST4

16.05 Radballs Indianapolis, D/ST24

5.13 John Doe Eli Manning, QB10 NYG

8.04 John Doe Chad Pennington, QB20 NYJ

1.13 John Doe Travis Henry, RB13 DEN

3.13 John Doe Jamal Lewis, RB24 CLE

6.04 John Doe Fred Taylor, RB37 JAX

11.13 John Doe Sammy Morris, RB53 NE

2.04 John Doe Reggie Wayne, WR3 IND

4.04 John Doe Mark Clayton, WR21 BAL

9.13 John Doe Troy Williamson, WR53 MIN

12.04 John Doe Patrick Crayton, WR69 DAL

13.13 John Doe Robert Meacham, WR78 NO

18.04 John Doe Doug Gabriel, WR89 OAK

7.13 John Doe Ben Watson, TE10 NE

14.04 John Doe David Martin, TE25 MIA

15.13 John Doe Rian Lindell, K18 BUF

16.04 John Doe Mike Nugent, K20 NYJ

10.04 John Doe San Diego D/ST3

17.13 John Doe Tennessee, D/ST30

4.03 KRS Drew Brees, QB3 NO

11.14 KRS Jeff Garcia, QB29 TAM

1.14 KRS Maurice Jones-Drew, RB14 JAC

6.03 KRS Jerious Norwood, RB36 ATL

8.03 KRS Ladell Betts, RB43 WAS

10.03 KRS Michael Pittman, RB47 TB

2.03 KRS Steve Smith WR2 CAR

3.14 KRS Laveranues Coles, WR19 NYJ

5.14 KRS Bernard Berrian, WR28 CHI

9.14 KRS Eric Parker, WR54 SD

12.03 KRS Antwaan Randle El, WR68 WAS

17.14 KRS Kris Brown, K27 HOU

18.03 KRS Donald Caldwell Jr., WR88 NE

7.14 KRS Randy McMichael, TE11 STL

14.03 KRS Ben Utecht, TE24 IND

15.14 KRS Jason Hanson, K19 DET

13.14 KRS Minnesota D/ST13

16.03 KRS New York Giants, D/ST23

5.15 EBF Matt Hasselbeck, QB11 SEA

7.15 EBF Alex Smith, QB19 SF

1.15 EBF RB Thomas Jones, RB15 NYJ

3.15 EBF Marshawn Lynch, RB25 BUF

9.15 EBF Lorenzo Booker RB45, MIA

2.02 EBF Chad Johnson WR1 CIN

6.02 EBF Santonio Holmes, WR30 PIT

8.02 EBF Reggie Williams, WR40 JAX

10.02 EBF Michael Clayton, WR55 TB

13.15 EBF Nathan Washington WR79 PIT

12.02 EBF Martin Booker, WR67 MIA

18.02 EBF Roscoe Parrish, WR87 BUF

4.02 EBF Todd Heap, TE2 BAL

11.15 EBF Ben Troupe, TE20 TEN

14.02 EBF Shayne Graham, K2 CIN

17.15 EBF Matt Bryant, K28 TB

15.15 EBF New Orleans, D/ST20

16.02 EBF Cincinnati, D/ST22

11.16 BnB Trent Green, QB30 KC

12.01 BnB Damon Haurd, QB31 KC

17.16 BnB Brodie Croyle, QB35 KC

18.01 BnB Dante Culpepper, QB36 MIA

2.01 BnB Cedric Benson, RB16 CHI

3.16 BnB Adrian Peterson, RB26 MIN

10.01 BnB Michael Turner RB46 SD

6.01 BnB J. Jones, RB 35 DAL

4.01 BnB Plaxico Burress, WR20 NYG

5.16 BnB Jerricho Cotchery, WR29 NYJ

7.16 BnB Greg Jennings, WR38 GB

8.01 BnB Kevin Curtis, WR39 PHI

13.16 BnB D. Williams, WR80 BAL

15.16 BnB Kevin Walter, WR83 HOU

1.16 BnB Antonio Gates, TE1 SD

14.01 BnBJason Elam, K3 DEN

9.16 BnB Baltimore D/ST2

16.01 BnB Washington, D\ST21

 

[AB in DC]

 

[radballs]

8.05 Radballs Steve McNair, QB21 BAL

12.05 Radballs JaMarcus Russell, QB32 OAK

1.12 Radballs Rudi Johnson, RB12 CIN

5.12 Radballs Kevin Jones, RB33 DET

9.12 Radballs Leon Washington, RB44 NYJ

17.12 Radballs Noah Herron, RB62, GB

2.05 Radballs Torry Holt, WR4 STL

3.12 Radballs Braylon Edwards, WR18 CLE

6.05 Radballs Darrell Jackson, WR31 SF

7.12 Radballs Jerry Porter, WR37 OAK

13.12 Radballs Brandon Lloyd, WR77 WAS

4.05 Radballs Tony Gonzales, TE3 KC

11.12 Radballs Chris Baker, TE19 NYJ

14.05 Radballs Nate Kaeding, K4 SD

15.12 Radballs Sebastian Janikowski, K17 OAK

10.05 Radballs New England, D/ST4

16.05 Radballs Indianapolis, D/ST24

18.05 Radballs Cleveland, D/ST32

 

[BassNBrew]

11.16 BnB Trent Green, QB30 KC12.01 BnB Damon Haurd, QB31 KC17.16 BnB Brodie Croyle, QB35 KC18.01 BnB Dante Culpepper, QB36 MIA2.01 BnB Cedric Benson, RB16 CHI3.16 BnB Adrian Peterson, RB26 MIN10.01 BnB Michael Turner RB46 SD6.01 BnB J. Jones, RB 35 DAL4.01 BnB Plaxico Burress, WR20 NYG 5.16 BnB Jerricho Cotchery, WR29 NYJ 7.16 BnB Greg Jennings, WR38 GB8.01 BnB Kevin Curtis, WR39 PHI13.16 BnB D. Williams, WR80 BAL15.16 BnB Kevin Walter, WR83 HOU1.16 BnB Antonio Gates, TE1 SD14.01 BnBJason Elam, K3 DEN9.16 BnB Baltimore D/ST216.01 BnB Washington, D\ST21
Overall very happy with the outcome. My QB situation is up in the air, but I should have two starters most weeks and protection in case of injury. Obviously I'll be giving up points to most of the field here. Miami and KC team QBs combined for 277 pts last year which put them around the Kitna range. Really anything should be and improvement over Harrington and the KC QBs should have benefit from the additional reps. Absolutely loaded at RB. If LT goes down then look out. Benson will get the majority of the work in Chicago and Jones/AD will make a potent RB2. I really don't know what to make of my WRs. Jennings and Curtis will be the key to the corps, however I expect a lot of weekly variation from them. Hoping Walters sticks in Houston and provides a weekly number. Can Williams overtake Mason? May need an injury for him to contribute. Gates is obviously tops in the league, no sense drafting a second. The only way anyone else would have contributed was if Gates went down which would likely doom this team anyway. Considered a second kicker but they never do anything for me as their scores never match up well for me. I might be giving up 4-6 points on occasion, but having the QB position locked down seemed like the smarter move. Balt/Wash will be in the top quarter of the pairings in this league.

 

[EBF]

5.15 EBF Matt Hasselbeck, QB11 SEA

7.15 EBF Alex Smith, QB19 SF

1.15 EBF RB Thomas Jones, RB15 NYJ

3.15 EBF Marshawn Lynch, RB25 BUF

9.15 EBF Lorenzo Booker RB45, MIA

2.02 EBF Chad Johnson WR1 CIN

6.02 EBF Santonio Holmes, WR30 PIT

8.02 EBF Reggie Williams, WR40 JAX

10.02 EBF Michael Clayton, WR55 TB

13.15 EBF Nathan Washington WR79 PIT

12.02 EBF Martin Booker, WR67 MIA

18.02 EBF Roscoe Parrish, WR87 BUF

4.02 EBF Todd Heap, TE2 BAL

11.15 EBF Ben Troupe, TE20 TEN

14.02 EBF Shayne Graham, K2 CIN

17.15 EBF Matt Bryant, K28 TB

15.15 EBF New Orleans, D/ST20

16.02 EBF Cincinnati, D/ST22

Pretty happy with this team. My goal was to get quality depth at every position. It's tough to accomplish that objective in such a big league, but I think I did a decent job. I have two solid starters at QB. Between the two of them, I should get top 10 production each week.

I don't have a stud RB, but Thomas Jones should be solid for me. Marshawn Lynch should start as a rookie. I expect him to be a solid RB2 in this format. Lorenzo Booker is a bit of a wild card. I'm just hoping he gets 3-4 catches each week and a handful of carries. It would've been nice to have better depth here, but it's tough to find decent RBs in this format. There's a lot of demand and not much supply.

My WR group should be strong. Chad Johnson is a stud. With Henry out of the picture for a while, CJ should have his best season in years. Holmes and Williams should be an adequate WR2 and WR3 respectively. Clayton, Booker, Washington, and Parrish will provide depth. I think I got Booker and Washington at a great price given their production last season.

I knew coming into this draft that I'd take one of the stud TEs. In hindsight, I probably should've grabbed Gates at 1.15, but I'm pretty happy with Heap. There are only a handful of elite TEs in FF. I got one of them. He should make a big difference in keeping my team alive. Troupe is a decent backup with slight breakout potential.

I got two defenses and two kickers. I would've liked a better second kicker, but there was an unexpected run at the position, leaving me with late bye Matt Bryant.

Overall, I expect this team to hang around for quite a while. If I stay healthy and get decent seasons from my RBs and WRs, I'll be one of the better teams.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

11.16 BnB Trent Green, QB30 KC12.01 BnB Damon Haurd, QB31 KC17.16 BnB Brodie Croyle, QB35 KC18.01 BnB Dante Culpepper, QB36 MIA2.01 BnB Cedric Benson, RB16 CHI3.16 BnB Adrian Peterson, RB26 MIN10.01 BnB Michael Turner RB46 SD6.01 BnB J. Jones, RB 35 DAL4.01 BnB Plaxico Burress, WR20 NYG 5.16 BnB Jerricho Cotchery, WR29 NYJ 7.16 BnB Greg Jennings, WR38 GB8.01 BnB Kevin Curtis, WR39 PHI13.16 BnB D. Williams, WR80 BAL15.16 BnB Kevin Walter, WR83 HOU1.16 BnB Antonio Gates, TE1 SD14.01 BnBJason Elam, K3 DEN9.16 BnB Baltimore D/ST216.01 BnB Washington, D\ST21

Overall very happy with the outcome. My QB situation is up in the air, but I should have two starters most weeks and protection in case of injury. Obviously I'll be giving up points to most of the field here. Miami and KC team QBs combined for 277 pts last year which put them around the Kitna range. Really anything should be and improvement over Harrington and the KC QBs should have benefit from the additional reps. Absolutely loaded at RB. If LT goes down then look out. Benson will get the majority of the work in Chicago and Jones/AD will make a potent RB2. I really don't know what to make of my WRs. Jennings and Curtis will be the key to the corps, however I expect a lot of weekly variation from them. Hoping Walters sticks in Houston and provides a weekly number. Can Williams overtake Mason? May need an injury for him to contribute. Gates is obviously tops in the league, no sense drafting a second. The only way anyone else would have contributed was if Gates went down which would likely doom this team anyway. Considered a second kicker but they never do anything for me as their scores never match up well for me. I might be giving up 4-6 points on occasion, but having the QB position locked down seemed like the smarter move. Balt/Wash will be in the top quarter of the pairings in this league.

You like that team? Seriously???4 QBs to cover two bad passing situations. Two wasted roster spots.RBs have infirmary written on Benson and maybe ADP as well (at first I thought you had the handcuff) - it may work out, but I wouldn't say you were loaded at all.WR - Looks like you can get by, but many teams will have better starters.TE - Gates and, um, what? Also he regressed with Rivers and is coming further back to the pack. Week 7 is a tough week to take a zero.PK - Elam is $ but still guaranteeing a zero once.D - Good.I really think the 4 QB approach is your downfall here.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

3.06 Evilgrin Carson Palmer, QB2 CIN

9.06 Evilgrin Byron Leftwich, QB27 JAX

1.06 Evilgrin Frank Gore, RB6 SF

4.11 Evilgrin LenDale White, RB28 TEN

5.06 Evilgrin Warrick Dunn, RB30 ATL

11.06 Evilgrin Kevin Faulk, RB51 NE

2.11 Evilgrin Marvin Harrison, WR6 IND

6.11 Evilgrin D. J. Hackett, WR33 SEA

7.06 Evilgrin Donte Stallworth, WR35 NE

8.11 Evilgrin Devery Henderson, WR43 NO

13.06 Evilgrin Ted Ginn, WR75 MIA

18.11 Evilgrin Samie Parker, WR85 KC

10.11 Evilgrin Marcus Pollard, TE16 SEA

12.11 Evilgrin Marcedes Lewis, TE21 JAX

14.11 Evilgrin Greg Olsen, TE26 CHI

16.11 Evilgrin Rob Bironas, K22 TEN

17.06 Evilgrin Mason Crosby, K26 GB

15.06 Evilgrin Seattle D/ST18

This draft pissed me off. At least 6-8 times I had a guy lined up with 1-2 picks to go, only to see him disappear. I don't know that I've ever had that happen so may times in one draft, which speaks to the collective acumen here.

QB - I'm solid as hell here. Palmer should be even better than last year and I expect him to be firmly entrenched as the #2 QB behind Manning, especially with the Cincy D behind him. Leftwich is solid value as a QB2. Grade : A

RB - Gore may not appraoch his reception numbers of '06 without Norv at the offensive helm, but he's still a top back regardless, and I was glad to get him at #6. LenDale White, I believe, will be the starter in Tennessee, and should be good for 1,000 yards and 6-8 TDs, which I would gladly take as an RB2 in a league this deep. It's rumored that Dunn wil be more heavily utilized in the passing game this year as he loses some carries to Norwood, and he fits Petrino's offense well. I think he's a solid RB3. Faulk always catches about 2 balls a agme, and if Maroney's shoulder problems hold up, could find himself as a main cog of an RBBC. Grade : B

WR - Hit or miss here. Harrison is money in PPR formats and will get his. Beyond him, it's a crapshoot. I went for guys with upside and high YPC guys who are prone to have very strong and very poor games, in the hopes that 1-2 a week will post good numbers. Hackett, Stallworth, and Henderson all have good speed and at the moment look to be #2s on their respective clubs, all of whom will throw quite a bit. Ginn and Parker were fliers late, Ginn hopefully will make a Hester-like impact on ST and score me a few return TDs if his leg is right. Grade : B-

TE - I waited here and it shows. Pollard should catch 40+ balls as the top option in Seattle and I'm hoping Lewis steps ahead of Wrighster this year. Olsen, being a #1 pick, I'm hoping is used as a field stretcher a la Heath Miller in the '05 AFC playoffs and will hit the board for me once or twice. Grade : D+

K/D - I always wait. Seattle will be fine as a defense, although DEF32 got taken before I could grab a backup, so there's one zero there. Crosby and Bironas will be serviceable at PK. Grade : C-

Overall grade : B-. Could have been really good had a couple of people whiffed on some picks near mine, but it didn't happen. Crossing my fingers and hoping for the best. My bye weeks are pretty well spread out, so byes shouldn't hurt me, only lack of production.

 

[LHUCKS]

My team will come and go with McNabb's health...can't believe somebody else ctually drafted his backup.

 

[BassNBrew]

11.16 BnB Trent Green, QB30 KC12.01 BnB Damon Haurd, QB31 KC17.16 BnB Brodie Croyle, QB35 KC18.01 BnB Dante Culpepper, QB36 MIA2.01 BnB Cedric Benson, RB16 CHI3.16 BnB Adrian Peterson, RB26 MIN10.01 BnB Michael Turner RB46 SD6.01 BnB J. Jones, RB 35 DAL4.01 BnB Plaxico Burress, WR20 NYG 5.16 BnB Jerricho Cotchery, WR29 NYJ 7.16 BnB Greg Jennings, WR38 GB8.01 BnB Kevin Curtis, WR39 PHI13.16 BnB D. Williams, WR80 BAL15.16 BnB Kevin Walter, WR83 HOU1.16 BnB Antonio Gates, TE1 SD14.01 BnBJason Elam, K3 DEN9.16 BnB Baltimore D/ST216.01 BnB Washington, D\ST21

Overall very happy with the outcome. My QB situation is up in the air, but I should have two starters most weeks and protection in case of injury. Obviously I'll be giving up points to most of the field here. Miami and KC team QBs combined for 277 pts last year which put them around the Kitna range. Really anything should be and improvement over Harrington and the KC QBs should have benefit from the additional reps. Absolutely loaded at RB. If LT goes down then look out. Benson will get the majority of the work in Chicago and Jones/AD will make a potent RB2. I really don't know what to make of my WRs. Jennings and Curtis will be the key to the corps, however I expect a lot of weekly variation from them. Hoping Walters sticks in Houston and provides a weekly number. Can Williams overtake Mason? May need an injury for him to contribute. Gates is obviously tops in the league, no sense drafting a second. The only way anyone else would have contributed was if Gates went down which would likely doom this team anyway. Considered a second kicker but they never do anything for me as their scores never match up well for me. I might be giving up 4-6 points on occasion, but having the QB position locked down seemed like the smarter move. Balt/Wash will be in the top quarter of the pairings in this league.

You like that team? Seriously???4 QBs to cover two bad passing situations. Two wasted roster spots.RBs have infirmary written on Benson and maybe ADP as well (at first I thought you had the handcuff) - it may work out, but I wouldn't say you were loaded at all.WR - Looks like you can get by, but many teams will have better starters.TE - Gates and, um, what? Also he regressed with Rivers and is coming further back to the pack. Week 7 is a tough week to take a zero.PK - Elam is $ but still guaranteeing a zero once.D - Good.I really think the 4 QB approach is your downfall here.

Interesting comments...You have Gates ranked at #19 overall in the standard redraft rankings which is the 3rd highest of all the staff members. So is he he regressing or not???You have AD ranked #20 among the RBs, second highest of all the experts. Turner ranked at #29, highest among the staff. Seriously dude, you should either be drooling over my RBs or changing your rankings.I could have passed on Jennings and Curtis for this trash...

8.04 John Doe Chad Pennington, QB20 NYJ8.05 Radballs Steve McNair, QB21 BAL8.06 Pictus Rex Grossman, QB22 CHI8.07 Bundy JP Losman, QB23 BUFor even McCown

I could have passed on Balt D or Michael Turner for Jeff GarciaQBs went insanely early in this league and drafting at the tail I decided to add value instead of chasing a losing proposition. With the exception of QB and K, I think the other positions will perform in the top half of the league each week. I'm probably giving 4-6 at QB and 2-4 at K to the median output in this league.

 

[BassNBrew]

My team will come and go with McNabb's health...can't believe somebody else ctually drafted his backup.

I can't believe many of the selections in the league. 8.16 Tex Josh McCown, QB26 OAK. I think he went undrafted in league 1.11.13 John Doe Sammy Morris, RB53 NE was another head scratcher.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

You like that team? Seriously???4 QBs to cover two bad passing situations. Two wasted roster spots.RBs have infirmary written on Benson and maybe ADP as well (at first I thought you had the handcuff) - it may work out, but I wouldn't say you were loaded at all.WR - Looks like you can get by, but many teams will have better starters.TE - Gates and, um, what? Also he regressed with Rivers and is coming further back to the pack. Week 7 is a tough week to take a zero.PK - Elam is $ but still guaranteeing a zero once.D - Good.I really think the 4 QB approach is your downfall here.

Interesting comments...You have Gates ranked at #19 overall in the standard redraft rankings which is the 3rd highest of all the staff members. So is he he regressing or not???You have AD ranked #20 among the RBs, second highest of all the experts. Turner ranked at #29, highest among the staff. Seriously dude, you should either be drooling over my RBs or changing your rankings.I could have passed on Jennings and Curtis for this trash...

8.04 John Doe Chad Pennington, QB20 NYJ8.05 Radballs Steve McNair, QB21 BAL8.06 Pictus Rex Grossman, QB22 CHI8.07 Bundy JP Losman, QB23 BUFor even McCown

I could have passed on Balt D or Michael Turner for Jeff GarciaQBs went insanely early in this league and drafting at the tail I decided to add value instead of chasing a losing proposition. With the exception of QB and K, I think the other positions will perform in the top half of the league each week. I'm probably giving 4-6 at QB and 2-4 at K to the median output in this league.

Amazing how you can see what you want to see....Benson - Not Top 20. ADP - Not Top 20. Turner - Not Top 20. No one will drool over 4 guys outside of a Top 20.I think Benson was a reach at 16. That's my opinion. Gates in a 16 teamer - no issue with his selection, but I think he's not super-better than every other TE on the board. You got him where you'd have to take him to have him - but I don't agree with having only 1 TE in Survivor.I agree on one of your points in that I have Turner ranked too high. Hadn't noticed that before - he should be a few notches lower and in the 30s.As for my strong dislike of your team, it all comes down to the mess at QB and using 4 of 18 spots on them.

 

[Pictus Cat]

Why, in all my 4 years of fantasy football and 1 year of SSLs.

Seems to me, the end has the danger of missing on a run.

Bass gambled that there would be QB value later.

No problem with waiting if I think consensus QB 31 and 32 are regarded higher by me and will perform well enough to be worth Curtis and Jennings. Especially if the belief is supported by a QBBC strategy.

That remains to be seen.

I took McNabb in BDSL because I thought QBs could start going and the hit to value was not too bad.

If I miss a run, oh well. I may have taken one of the trash players Bass mentioned, except I value one of them highly and thought he might last (he didn't.) On that note, if he lasted longer, I might have taken 3 QBs.

PS: Not sure about Culpepper returning to glory, but I am really impressed by the athleticism I saw in Minn when he chased down a CB from behind. Funny, in a not usefull way.

 

[BassNBrew]

Amazing how you can see what you want to see....Benson - Not Top 20. ADP - Not Top 20. Turner - Not Top 20. No one will drool over 4 guys outside of a Top 20.I think Benson was a reach at 16. That's my opinion. Gates in a 16 teamer - no issue with his selection, but I think he's not super-better than every other TE on the board. You got him where you'd have to take him to have him - but I don't agree with having only 1 TE in Survivor.I agree on one of your points in that I have Turner ranked too high. Hadn't noticed that before - he should be a few notches lower and in the 30s.As for my strong dislike of your team, it all comes down to the mess at QB and using 4 of 18 spots on them.

Lets see what I see...Some expert has Gates ranked at #19 overall and his next best TE is ranked at #50 overall. That's for a non-ppr league. This is a 2 pt ppr league. FYI... 50 - 19 = 31. I guess that's not super better.Benson a reach??? Per the consensus rankings...

16 Edgerrin James, ARI 17 Ronnie Brown, MIA  18 Cedric Benson, CHI

Pretty much a coin flip. With 15 of the 1st 15 picks being RB, the die was cast. Passing on one of these guys would have been suicide. Now I realize you don't like Benson, but let's disect your rankings further.Jeff P RB rankings14 Ronnie Brown24 Cedric Benson32 Lorenzo Booker49 Adrian Peterson, CHIAnd for some perspective let's look at last years rushing stats by team.#15 Chicago 503 1918 3.8 119.9 14#22 Miami 402 1673 4.2 104.6 7 Even if I concede that Miami's rushing attack substantially improves with one of the crappy QBs I drafted and Chicago suddenly becomes a passing attack, please explain how it's conceivably possible for Miami to have two NFL starting caliber performers. I'll make a wager with you, if Booker posts RB32 or better numbers, Brown is not sniffing the top 20 at RB.Back to Gates, his scores last year in this format: 12 13 bye 12 17 26 30 16 6 16 14 26 29 36 2 8 19 For argument let's take a fairly highly ranked 2006 TE Watson11 9 15 5 11 16 29 13 5 23 28 10 2I would have picked up 15 points during the week 3 bye, 7 points in week 10, and 14 points in week 11. That's assuming I would have used a 8th or 9th round pick to select the TE who finished ranked number 10 last year. The numbers get worse if you want to look at late round flyer TEs. Drafting at the end of the serpent, you have to be agressive to make up the advantage the earlier picks have. As I said before, if Gates goes down for the year, Robert Royal or Leonard Pope aren't going to lead me to a title.The shark move with late round picks is to attempt to strengthen your weakness, not add stiffs that won't contribute. If C-Pep plays this year he'll look like a steal in the 20th round.

 

[Atomic Punk]

Time permitting, I'm hoping on grading out all of the teams, but I'll start with me own.

Qaurterbacks - Grade A

2.10 Peyton Manning, QB1 IND

9.07 Tarvaris Jackson QB28 MIN

The value at 2.10 was too much to pass on for the top QB. The only other QB that will have a sniff of his numbers will be Brady. Tarvaris was probably a bit of a reach at 9.07, but Evilgrin had me reeling when I was all set to take Leftwich. In hindsight I should have held out for Huard or Green in the 11th since Manning has a pretty early bye.

Running Backs - Grade B+

1.07 Shaun Alexander, RB7 SEA

3.07 Ahman Green RB23 GB

5.07 Lamont Jordon, RB31 OAK

10.10 Chris Henry RB49 TEN

Alexander isn't getting a lot of love on these boards but he has another 15 TD year in him and at the 7 spot is s steal. Green should be money in this league and will get a ton of points from receptions. I'm looking for a rebound year from Jordan and also expect his receptions to be somewhere between last year and the year prior. I took a flyer on Henry in the 10th but would have been better off taking a second TE like Troupe or Baker and nabbing a lesser RB like Morris in the 18th.

Wide Receivers - Grade C+

4.10 Chris Chambers WR23 MIA

6.10 Calvin Johnson, WR32 DET

7.07 Ronald Curry, WR42 OAK

11.07 Michael Jenkins WR64 ATL

12.10 Wes Welker, WR72 NE

17.07 Chris Henry, WR85 CIN

I'm not overly thrilled with my WRs but hope they will be serviceable. Miami should be playing from behind a lot this year so Chambers should put up a lot of garbage time numbers. CJ should have an excellent year and a prime ROY candidate. It all fell apart in the seventh when Mrs. Punk deleted Evilgrin's PM and I timed out. My list to her included Curtis and Muhammad but I end up with Curry taken 16 spots later. Welker and Jenkins are solid "bench" guys and Henry is a flyer in the hope that he stays out of jail.

Tight Ends - Grade C

8.10 Dallas Clark, TE13 IND

18.10 Jeremy Stevens, TE29 TB

I was always a step behind on the TE picks and it shows. I like Clark but he has caught the injury bug a few too many times for my tastes and is the 3rd or 4th option in the passing game at best in Indy. Should have an average year and was taken at a value spot. I almost went with Mo Morris to back up Alexander instead but thought I'd be better served having a backup TE.

Kickers - Grade A-

14.10 Davis Akers K7 PHI

15.07 Josh Brown, K13 SEA

Excellent combo. My goal was to have my K1 with an early bye and a solid K2. Accomplished.

D/ST - Grade C-

13.07 New York Jets D/ST12

16.10 Kansas City, D/ST27

Nothing to write home about. The Jets should continue to improve on D and I like their personnel for ST. KC = meh.

Overall this is a fairly competitive team and with some luck will be in the final 4-6 fighting it out at the end.

 

[LHUCKS]

Who would like their team critiqued?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Who would like their team critiqued?

I would, for sure. What good are these leagues if you don't use them to learn for the cash money leagues?

 

[Blue-Kun]

What's with the LT team's trying to commit suicide in these drafts?

Josh McCown in the 8th? A whopping 4.5 WR assuming another one gets taken? Oh and of the WR you've got huge boom or bust players in Moss and Jackson? And the 4th is Peerless Price? Ok...

The bye weeks are going to be hell when VY and LT are off.

 

[LHUCKS]

4.09 Lhucks Donovan McNabb QB5 PHI

13.08 Lhucks Charlie Frye, QB34 CLE

I purposely took McNabb early because I wanted to draft WRs and RBs when everybody else was drafting QB2s...what I didn't think would happen was that a team would draft AJ Feeley in the 14th round...that wasn't a good move for that team or for my team as I had planned on handcuffing McNabb with Feeley. If McNabb stays healthy and Frye can cover his bye in week 5 I should be fine, but those are two big IFs...more risk here than I would have liked, but you have to take risk somewhere and I chose QB2.

1.08 Lhucks Willie Parker, RB8 PIT

2.09 Lhucks Edgerin James, RB18 ARZ

10.09 Lhucks Dominic Rhodes, RB48 OAK

11.08 Lhucks Adrian Peterson, RB52 CHI

I really like this group. Didn't expect to see Rhodes in the 10th who should be putting up points while healthy. Peterson has an excellent shot at weekly points in Chicago as well...as I don't believe Cedric will be asked to carry the full load. FWP and Edge are solid guys that play through injury.

3.08 Lhucks Marques Colston, WR14 NO

5.08 Lhucks Terry Glenn, WR27 DAL

7.08 Lhucks Muhsin Muhammad, WR36 CHI

8.09 Lhucks Matt Jones, WR41 JAX

17.08 Lhucks Ernest Wilford, WR86 JAX

12.09 Lhucks Ashlie Lelie, WR71 SF

18.09 Lhucks Rod Smith, WR90 DEN

Pretty happy with this group...they're not great but I like my depth.

6.09 Lhucks Alge Crumpler, TE7 ATL

I'm a big fan of taking a stud TE because it enables you to draft only one and add more depth at RB or WR.

14.09 Lhucks Jeff Wilkins, K6 SL

15.08 Lhucks Neil Rackers, K14 ARI

9.08 Lhucks Chicago D/ST1

16.09 Lhucks Arizona, D/ST26

I went Kicker and D earlier than most teams so I should gain some points here.

 

[EBF]

Who would like their team critiqued?

 

[Pictus Cat]

 

[Atomic Punk]

Critique of Evilgrin's team ...

3.06 Evilgrin Carson Palmer, QB2 CIN

9.06 Evilgrin Byron Leftwich, QB27 JAX

Great QB starter and above average backup that I was hoping would fall to me at 9.07. Add to that an early bye for both and you get a solid B+.

1.06 Evilgrin Frank Gore, RB6 SF

4.11 Evilgrin LenDale White, RB28 TEN

5.06 Evilgrin Warrick Dunn, RB30 ATL

11.06 Evilgrin Kevin Faulk, RB51 NE

I have Alexander ahead of Gore on my cheat sheet but he should do fine this season. I'm not sold on White, but Dunn will more than make up for it. B

2.11 Evilgrin Marvin Harrison, WR6 IND

6.11 Evilgrin D. J. Hackett, WR33

7.06 Evilgrin Donte Stallworth, WR35 NE

8.11 Evilgrin Devery Henderson, WR43 NO

13.06 Evilgrin Ted Ginn, WR75 MIA

18.11 Evilgrin Samie Parker, WR91 KC

Marvin will continue to be a stud and then next three should be able to give you solid points each week. I temper my enthusiasm a bit as it wouldn't surprise me if they all had average years. Ginn was a bit of a reach as he will not get credit for ST points, MIA D/ST will. Parker is an 18th rounder. B-

10.11 Evilgrin Marcus Pollard, TE16 SEA

12.11 Evilgrin Marcedes Lewis, TE21 JAX

14.11 Evilgrin Greg Olsen, TE26 CHI

One of the few teams with TEs worse than mine. C-

16.11 Evilgrin Rob Bironas, K22 TEN

17.06 Evilgrin Mason Crosby, K26 GB

Another team weakness, but it is only kickers. C-

15.06 Evilgrin Seattle D/ST18

A middle of the road D/ST and no backup spells trouble. D

Overall I like the top end of your team but some obvious weaknesses will make it tough to ride through to the end.

 

[Atomic Punk]

Critique of EBF's team ...

5.15 EBF Matt Hasselbeck, QB11 SEA

7.15 EBF Alex Smith, QB19 SF

I'm unsure of what to expect from Hasselbeck this year but you got good value at QB11 in the 5th and Smith will throw up a few really solid weeks. B

1.15 EBF RB Thomas Jones, RB15 NYJ

3.15 EBF Marshawn Lynch, RB25 BUF

9.15 EBF Lorenzo Booker RB45, MIA

In a start 2, only three RBs spells doom and Booker is uncertain to produce much. Lynch will likely share the load with Thomas for at least part of the season and Jones is likely to lose carries to Leon also.C-

2.02 EBF Chad Johnson WR1 CIN

6.02 EBF Santonio Holmes, WR30 PIT

8.02 EBF Reggie Williams, WR40 JAX

10.02 EBF Michael Clayton, WR55 TB

13.15 EBF Nathan Washington WR79 PIT

12.02 EBF Martin Booker, WR67 MIA

18.02 EBF Roscoe Parrish, WR87 BUF

Good depth but I think you would be better served adding a RB instead of Parrish in the 18th or drafting Rhodes in the 10th instead of Clayton. CJ is a stud and I like Holmes and Williams upside so this group still warrants a good grade. B+ (almost A-)

4.02 EBF Todd Heap, TE2 BAL

11.15 EBF Ben Troupe, TE20 TEN

Awesome starter and great backup. A

14.02 EBF Shayne Graham, K2 CIN

17.15 EBF Matt Bryant, K28 TB

I was hoping Graham would drop to me in the 14th. Early bye, high scoring team. Bryant is meh, but still a solid B

15.15 EBF New Orleans, D/ST20

16.02 EBF Cincinnati, D/ST22

Two middle of the road defences ... won't hurt you but won't save you any weeks either. C

Another decent team but I'm afraid the lack of RB depth and sure fire producers may make it difficult.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Critique of Evilgrin's team ...

3.06 Evilgrin Carson Palmer, QB2 CIN

9.06 Evilgrin Byron Leftwich, QB27 JAX

Great QB starter and above average backup that I was hoping would fall to me at 9.07. Add to that an early bye for both and you get a solid B+.

1.06 Evilgrin Frank Gore, RB6 SF

4.11 Evilgrin LenDale White, RB28 TEN

5.06 Evilgrin Warrick Dunn, RB30 ATL

11.06 Evilgrin Kevin Faulk, RB51 NE

I have Alexander ahead of Gore on my cheat sheet but he should do fine this season. I'm not sold on White, but Dunn will more than make up for it. B

2.11 Evilgrin Marvin Harrison, WR6 IND

6.11 Evilgrin D. J. Hackett, WR33

7.06 Evilgrin Donte Stallworth, WR35 NE

8.11 Evilgrin Devery Henderson, WR43 NO

13.06 Evilgrin Ted Ginn, WR75 MIA

18.11 Evilgrin Samie Parker, WR91 KC

Marvin will continue to be a stud and then next three should be able to give you solid points each week. I temper my enthusiasm a bit as it wouldn't surprise me if they all had average years. Ginn was a bit of a reach as he will not get credit for ST points, MIA D/ST will. Parker is an 18th rounder. B-

10.11 Evilgrin Marcus Pollard, TE16 SEA

12.11 Evilgrin Marcedes Lewis, TE21 JAX

14.11 Evilgrin Greg Olsen, TE26 CHI

One of the few teams with TEs worse than mine. C-

16.11 Evilgrin Rob Bironas, K22 TEN

17.06 Evilgrin Mason Crosby, K26 GB

Another team weakness, but it is only kickers. C-

15.06 Evilgrin Seattle D/ST18

A middle of the road D/ST and no backup spells trouble. D

Overall I like the top end of your team but some obvious weaknesses will make it tough to ride through to the end.

I pretty much agree with everything you say. Ginn will still get credit for TDs he scores (if any) on kick returns, though - that coupled with the fact that, if healthy, he could be a decent deep threat on occasion with Chambers likely to see most teams' top corners made him the kind of boom or bust guy I was looking for in my receiving corps behind Harrison. My hopes are that 1-2 guys have a big week each week while the others suck the place out. I had originally planned on taking a TE higher, but every time value presented itself at the position, someone snagged the guy I was targeting a pick or two ahead of me (Winslow, L.J. Smith, Dallas Clark come to mind immediately, but I know there were at least two other occurrences) so I ended up waiting rather than reaching. Didn't really want to do it with the 2 PPR rule, but the draft dictated it. In a league like this, it's so hard to be strong at every position - the way my first three picks shook out, I chose to enhance those spots rather than try to fortify my team at TE, D, or K.

We'll see how it works. I've found these leagues can be so unpredictable in this format.. last year, I liked my SSL team better than my MBSL team.. SSL team had one bad week and it was sayonara time in week 6 or 7, IIRC.. even though I was like 4th in total points. The MBSL team, IMO, was weaker, and won the whole thing.

Thanks for the critique, AP...... I appreciate the time and the insight.

 

[Atomic Punk]

Critique of Pictus Cat ...

4.06 Pictus Tom Brady, QB4 NE

8.06 Pictus Rex Grossman, QB22 CHI

Brady is #2 on my list and should have another amazing year. Grossman is serviceable. A-

1.11 Pictus Clinton Portis, RB11 WAS

6.06 Pictus Deshaun Foster, RB38 CAR

7.11 Pictus Vernand Morency, RB42 GB

17.11 Pictus Michael Robinson, RB61 SF

I'm not a Portis fan and believe he is on the decline, but I may be alone in that thinking. Foster will continue to lose carries to Williams so you need to have faith that Morency will carry the load in GB. I like the flyer on Robinson if Gore goes down in SF. C+

2.06 Pictus Larry Fitzgerald, WR5 ARZ

3.11 Pictus Hines Ward, WR17 PIT

9.11 Pictus Brandon Marshall, WR52 DEN

12.06 Pictus Dwayne Bowe, WR70 KC

13.11 Pictus Derek Hagan, WR76 MIA

14.06 Pictus Hank Baskett, WR81 PHI

The strength of the team is the 1-2 punch at WR. I like Marshall's potential and Bowe's opportunity. Hagan may be an excellent sleeper with the apparent lack of love for Booker by the Miami FO. B

5.11 Pictus Vernon Davis, TE6 SF

10.06 Pictus Owen Daniels, TE15 HOU

I'm on the VD bandwagon this year. Daniels should throw up some solid numbers. B

15.11 Pictus Jay Feely, K16 MIA

16.06 Pictus Martin Gramatica, K21 DAL

Nothing to write home about but decent and may have decent amount of opportunities. C

11.11 Pictus Jacksonville D/ST6

18.06 Pictus Detroit, D/ST31

JAX doesn't tend to get a lot of turnovers or sacks so I'm not sure how great they will be in this scoring format, but Detroit could score 10 spots higher than D/ST31. C

Not spectacular anywhere but solid all around. This is one of those teams that doesn't look like much on draft day but could surprise.

 

[Atomic Punk]

Critique of Evilgrin's team ...

3.06 Evilgrin Carson Palmer, QB2 CIN

9.06 Evilgrin Byron Leftwich, QB27 JAX

Great QB starter and above average backup that I was hoping would fall to me at 9.07. Add to that an early bye for both and you get a solid B+.

1.06 Evilgrin Frank Gore, RB6 SF

4.11 Evilgrin LenDale White, RB28 TEN

5.06 Evilgrin Warrick Dunn, RB30 ATL

11.06 Evilgrin Kevin Faulk, RB51 NE

I have Alexander ahead of Gore on my cheat sheet but he should do fine this season. I'm not sold on White, but Dunn will more than make up for it. B

2.11 Evilgrin Marvin Harrison, WR6 IND

6.11 Evilgrin D. J. Hackett, WR33

7.06 Evilgrin Donte Stallworth, WR35 NE

8.11 Evilgrin Devery Henderson, WR43 NO

13.06 Evilgrin Ted Ginn, WR75 MIA

18.11 Evilgrin Samie Parker, WR91 KC

Marvin will continue to be a stud and then next three should be able to give you solid points each week. I temper my enthusiasm a bit as it wouldn't surprise me if they all had average years. Ginn was a bit of a reach as he will not get credit for ST points, MIA D/ST will. Parker is an 18th rounder. B-

10.11 Evilgrin Marcus Pollard, TE16 SEA

12.11 Evilgrin Marcedes Lewis, TE21 JAX

14.11 Evilgrin Greg Olsen, TE26 CHI

One of the few teams with TEs worse than mine. C-

16.11 Evilgrin Rob Bironas, K22 TEN

17.06 Evilgrin Mason Crosby, K26 GB

Another team weakness, but it is only kickers. C-

15.06 Evilgrin Seattle D/ST18

A middle of the road D/ST and no backup spells trouble. D

Overall I like the top end of your team but some obvious weaknesses will make it tough to ride through to the end.

I pretty much agree with everything you say. Ginn will still get credit for TDs he scores (if any) on kick returns, though - that coupled with the fact that, if healthy, he could be a decent deep threat on occasion with Chambers likely to see most teams' top corners made him the kind of boom or bust guy I was looking for in my receiving corps behind Harrison. My hopes are that 1-2 guys have a big week each week while the others suck the place out. I had originally planned on taking a TE higher, but every time value presented itself at the position, someone snagged the guy I was targeting a pick or two ahead of me (Winslow, L.J. Smith, Dallas Clark come to mind immediately, but I know there were at least two other occurrences) so I ended up waiting rather than reaching. Didn't really want to do it with the 2 PPR rule, but the draft dictated it. In a league like this, it's so hard to be strong at every position - the way my first three picks shook out, I chose to enhance those spots rather than try to fortify my team at TE, D, or K.

We'll see how it works. I've found these leagues can be so unpredictable in this format.. last year, I liked my SSL team better than my MBSL team.. SSL team had one bad week and it was sayonara time in week 6 or 7, IIRC.. even though I was like 4th in total points. The MBSL team, IMO, was weaker, and won the whole thing.

Thanks for the critique, AP...... I appreciate the time and the insight.

No problem, this part is the most fun for me. I wasn't aware of the ST points, should have read up on the rules a little more.I hear you on the unpredictability of these drafts which is why I love them so much. The format is great and the competitiion is amazing. You can go into one of these things with the greatest plan in the world but then suddenly a run on QBs is off and the next thing you know you are fielding a team of QBs like BNB.

 

[Thom Yorke]

Please rate my squad...I'll post my own review shortly.

 

[LHUCKS]

3.06 Evilgrin Carson Palmer, QB2 CIN

9.06 Evilgrin Byron Leftwich, QB27 JAX

Great combo here...big fan of Lefty as a backup...his PPG is suprising.

1.06 Evilgrin Frank Gore, RB6 SF

4.11 Evilgrin LenDale White, RB28 TEN

5.06 Evilgrin Warrick Dunn, RB30 ATL

11.06 Evilgrin Kevin Faulk, RB51 NE

I think this group has nice upside with solid depth. I probably would have drafted a better RB2 to pair with Gore given Gore's injury history but it's still a solid group.

2.11 Evilgrin Marvin Harrison, WR6 IND

6.11 Evilgrin D. J. Hackett, WR33

7.06 Evilgrin Donte Stallworth, WR35 NE

8.11 Evilgrin Devery Henderson, WR43 NO

13.06 Evilgrin Ted Ginn, WR75 MIA

18.11 Evilgrin Samie Parker, WR91 KC

WR depth is the weakness of your team. Stallworth and Henderson rarely remain healthy and Ginn/Parker may not produce consistently. You need some things to go your way with this group...there's just a lot of risk here.

10.11 Evilgrin Marcus Pollard, TE16 SEA

12.11 Evilgrin Marcedes Lewis, TE21 JAX

14.11 Evilgrin Greg Olsen, TE26 CHI

Very solid value TE picks in Pollard and Marcedes, but Olsen wasn't really necessary...you could have used an extra WR or defense.

16.11 Evilgrin Rob Bironas, K22 TEN

17.06 Evilgrin Mason Crosby, K26 GB

15.06 Evilgrin Seattle D/ST18

Don't like one defense unless you've got a top defense. Overall you're going to lose some points at WR and D, you'll gain some points at QB and RB. I'd say this is an average team with some upside if your WRs surprise and if your RBs can stay healthy.

 

[Pictus Cat]

Critique of Pictus Cat ...

4.06 Pictus Tom Brady, QB4 NE

8.06 Pictus Rex Grossman, QB22 CHI

Brady is #2 on my list and should have another amazing year. Grossman is serviceable. A-

Same Page

1.11 Pictus Clinton Portis, RB11 WAS

6.06 Pictus Deshaun Foster, RB38 CAR

7.11 Pictus Vernand Morency, RB42 GB

17.11 Pictus Michael Robinson, RB61 SF

I'm not a Portis fan and believe he is on the decline, but I may be alone in that thinking. Foster will continue to lose carries to Williams so you need to have faith that Morency will carry the load in GB. I like the flyer on Robinson if Gore goes down in SF. C+

Only regret was not taking KJ or FTaylor 5.11, and getting VDavis on the flip side at 6.06.

2.06 Pictus Larry Fitzgerald, WR5 ARZ

3.11 Pictus Hines Ward, WR17 PIT

9.11 Pictus Brandon Marshall, WR52 DEN

12.06 Pictus Dwayne Bowe, WR70 KC

13.11 Pictus Derek Hagan, WR76 MIA

14.06 Pictus Hank Baskett, WR81 PHI

The strength of the team is the 1-2 punch at WR. I like Marshall's potential and Bowe's opportunity. Hagan may be an excellent sleeper with the apparent lack of love for Booker by the Miami FO. B



5.11 Pictus Vernon Davis, TE6 SF

10.06 Pictus Owen Daniels, TE15 HOU

I'm on the VD bandwagon this year. Daniels should throw up some solid numbers. B



15.11 Pictus Jay Feely, K16 MIA

16.06 Pictus Martin Gramatica, K21 DAL

Nothing to write home about but decent and may have decent amount of opportunities. C

11.11 Pictus Jacksonville D/ST6

18.06 Pictus Detroit, D/ST31

JAX doesn't tend to get a lot of turnovers or sacks so I'm not sure how great they will be in this scoring format, but Detroit could score 10 spots higher than D/ST31. C

Not spectacular anywhere but solid all around. This is one of those teams that doesn't look like much on draft day but could surprise.

Thank You.

 

[Atomic Punk]

Please rate my squad...I'll post my own review shortly.

6.15 Thome Yorke Brett Farve, QB167.02 Thome Yorke Ben Roethlisberger, QB17 PIT

QB combo is solid considering they are 16th and 17th QBs taken. I like the potential of Pitt's passing offense and Favre always puts up good numbers. B-

1.02 Thome Yorke Steven Jackson, RB2 STL

2.15 Thome Yorke Deuce McAllister, RB21 NO

16.15 Thome Yorke Correll Buckhalter, RB57 PHI

17.02 Thome Yorke Michael Bennett, RB58 KC

SJax should continue to produce in the PPR format, but I'm shying away from Deuce this year and can see Bush taking more and more away from him. Buckhalter and Bennett will be lucky to put up a ouple of points per week. Another team that may have benefited from grabbing a RB likes Rhodes in rounds 8-10. I'm struggling with this ranking because it deserves a C- but I'll go with a B- because I am extremely high on Jackson this year.

3.02 Thome Yorke Roy Williams, WR10 DET

5.02 Thome Yorke Joey Galloway, WR25 TB

8.15 Thome Yorke Derrick Mason, WR45 BAL

9.02 Thome Yorke Eddie Kennison, WR46 KC

10.15 Thome Yorke Joe Jurevicius, WR61 CLE

Four aging vets and Roy Williams. Hopefully Roy can continue to put up solid numbers each week because it will be hard to count on two of those four each week to keep you out of trouble as all are on the downside of their careers. Maybe I'm being a little hard on them because I'm pretty sure I've been saying this about Galloway and Kennison for two years and they keep proving me wrong. C+

4.15 Thome Yorke Jeremy Shockey, TE4 NYG

11.02 Thome Yorke Daniel Graham, TE17 DEN

Shockey should continue to improve and, if healthy, should produce excellent numbers. I keep waiting for him to implode due to his intensity but it hrd to factor that into a grade. Graham is a sneaky pick and will be a steady producer especially with the uncertainty with Scheffler's foot injury. B+

14.15 Thome Yorke Olindo Mare, K10 NO

15.02 Thome Yorke John Kasay, K12 CAR

I like this duo. Mare could resurrect his career in NO. B+

13.02 Thome Yorke Denver, D/ST11

12.15 Thome Yorke Philadelphia D/ST9

D/ST are both in the upper tier in this format. A-

There are some limitations with this team up front at RB and WR but your depth at QB, TE, K and D/ST may pull your a__ out of the fire on more than one week and it should compete.

 

[Captain Hook]

I think someone is confused. WR are NOT awarded points for TDs on special teams

 

[BassNBrew]

I think someone is confused. WR are NOT awarded points for TDs on special teams

Player Scoringassing TDs = 6 ptsRushing/receiving TDs = 6 pts

So basically Ginn is a gigantic turd unless someone's crappy QBs are chucky him the long ball.

 

[BassNBrew]

Looking forward to the beating I'm going to take.

Just be sure that when you call my players turds that they aren't real high on your published rankings.

 

[AB in DC]

6.14 Abrecher Matt Leinart, QB15

8.14 Abrecher Matt Shaub, QB25 HOU

14.14 Abrecher Brady Quinn, QB CLE

1.03 Abrecher Brian Westbrook, RB3 PHI

4.14 Abrecher DeAngelo Williams, RB29 CAR

7.03 Abrecher Reuben Droughns, RB39 NYG

18.14 Abrecher Garrett Wolfe, RB63 CHI

2.14 Abrecher Terrell Owens, WR7 DAL

3.03 Abrecher TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR11 CIN

9.03 Abrecher Isaac Bruce, WR47 STL

10.14 Abrecher Arnaz Battle, WR60 SF

12.14 Abrecher Bobby Wade, WR73 MIN

5.03 Abrecher TE Kellen Winslow, TE5 CLE

11.03 Abrecher Desmond Clark, TE18 CHI

13.03 Abrecher Adam Vinatieri, K1 IND

16.14 Abrecher Ryan Longwell, K23 MIN

15.03 Abrecher Green Bay,D/ST16

17.03 Abrecher Houston, D/ST29

I won't grade my team here -- I'll leave that to others. (I like the idea posted in the SSL1 thread that we should grade our counterparts drafting from the same position in the other SSLs.) But I will post some thoughts about my strategy.The problem with the 3 spot this year is that I see LT and SJax as head and shoulders above everyone else. After that, I see nothing but risk:

Westbrook - injury history

Addai - possible RBBC, may not be feature back material

LJohnson - injury risk (based on past workload), bad OL

Gore - departure of Norv Turner, injury history

SAlexander - OL issues, age

Bush - still in RBBC

Westbrook is the best of the bunch (PPR only), but I'm taking a big risk here if he misses more than his usual game or two. Unfortunately, I did not back him up the way I had planned. I was comfortable taking value picks at WR for 2.14/3.03; if this were SSL1, I could have had Jamal Lewis and Marshawn Lynch at the 4/5 bend. Instead, I get DeAngelo Williams, who is fine as a RB2, but I deviated from strategy to take Kellen Winslow at 5.03. That left me with a guy like Droughns at 7.03, who is a middle-of-the-road RB3 at best -- the Giants offense isn't that good even if he does get 40-50% of RB touches as I expect -- and I missed my chance to handcuff Buckhalter to Westbrook cheaply (though the drafting of Tony Hunt makes me wonder what the Eagles expect of him). Wolfe should be a third-down back with potential for more if Benson sucks or continues to have injury issues, neither of which is out of the question. But drafting at the three-spot, I expected better.

At QB I drafted for upside, which is necessary when you take two QBs relatively late. I don't know what to expect from either of them (or Quinn), and neither does anyone else, so I'll move on.

On defense, I felt that after Chicago and maybe Baltimore, the next tier of defenses went way too early. There's a lot that can happen in three and half months before opening day, and it just takes one injury out of eleven to turn a top-ten defense into a sieve. This is one area where training camp info is invaluable; when it's only May, defenses look practically indistinguishable, and virtually unpredictable. And Ds are virtually the only sure-thing picks you can make after round 14 -- you know they'll score points, and they could easily score very well. Of the top ten defenses last year, five were drafted in SSL1 at D16 or later.

I'm not sure whether a K2 was necessary with Vinatieri, but a WR6 (probably Caldwell or SParker) may not have done much either. Here, I was swayed by the fact that four of the final eight last year had only five WRs drafted. That tells me it's the top-to-middle round picks that will make or break your team, not the 13th to 18th rounders unless you nail a sleeper. In my case, if T.O. or Housh implode, I'm in trouble anyway. Probably should have taken a better RB4 (Buckhalter or MRobinson) and waited to see who was still left at 18.14 -- as luck would have it, I could have taken Tynes if I still wanted a K2.

 

[BassNBrew]

4.09 Lhucks Donovan McNabb QB5 PHI

13.08 Lhucks Charlie Frye, QB34 CLE

I'm not as down on this duo as Lhucks is. Surely McNabb can't get hurt again. Fyre was a cheap bye week policy. B+

1.08 Lhucks Willie Parker, RB8 PIT

2.09 Lhucks Edgerin James, RB18 ARZ

10.09 Lhucks Dominic Rhodes, RB48 OAK

11.08 Lhucks Adrian Peterson, RB52 CHI

Edge was a steal. Rhodes fell too far. Don't like the Peterson pick, I think Shipp or Barlow/Davenpoop may have been a better option later. A-

3.08 Lhucks Marques Colston, WR14 NO

5.08 Lhucks Terry Glenn, WR27 DAL

7.08 Lhucks Muhsin Muhammad, WR36 CHI

8.09 Lhucks Matt Jones, WR41 JAX

17.08 Lhucks Ernest Wilford, WR86 JAX

12.09 Lhucks Ashlie Lelie, WR71 SF

18.09 Lhucks Rod Smith, WR90 DEN

Very solid group, to the point that Smith was probably a waste. Any one else concerned that he might get cut? Like the Jones/Wilford pairing. A-

6.09 Lhucks Alge Crumpler, TE7 ATL

Not much to add. B+

14.09 Lhucks Jeff Wilkins, K6 SL

15.08 Lhucks Neil Rackers, K14 ARI

Two of the better kickers. A

9.08 Lhucks Chicago D/ST1

16.09 Lhucks Arizona, D/ST26

Stud D. A

Lhucks benefited from some bad drafting / reaches around his draft position. Probably one of my favorites to win, but much like myself, he left little margin for error at a couple of keys positions. Barring injury this will be very tough squad.

 

[EBF]

Critique of EBF's team ...

5.15 EBF Matt Hasselbeck, QB11 SEA

7.15 EBF Alex Smith, QB19 SF

I'm unsure of what to expect from Hasselbeck this year but you got good value at QB11 in the 5th and Smith will throw up a few really solid weeks. B

1.15 EBF RB Thomas Jones, RB15 NYJ

3.15 EBF Marshawn Lynch, RB25 BUF

9.15 EBF Lorenzo Booker RB45, MIA

In a start 2, only three RBs spells doom and Booker is uncertain to produce much. Lynch will likely share the load with Thomas for at least part of the season and Jones is likely to lose carries to Leon also.C-

2.02 EBF Chad Johnson WR1 CIN

6.02 EBF Santonio Holmes, WR30 PIT

8.02 EBF Reggie Williams, WR40 JAX

10.02 EBF Michael Clayton, WR55 TB

13.15 EBF Nathan Washington WR79 PIT

12.02 EBF Martin Booker, WR67 MIA

18.02 EBF Roscoe Parrish, WR87 BUF

Good depth but I think you would be better served adding a RB instead of Parrish in the 18th or drafting Rhodes in the 10th instead of Clayton. CJ is a stud and I like Holmes and Williams upside so this group still warrants a good grade. B+ (almost A-)

4.02 EBF Todd Heap, TE2 BAL

11.15 EBF Ben Troupe, TE20 TEN

Awesome starter and great backup. A

14.02 EBF Shayne Graham, K2 CIN

17.15 EBF Matt Bryant, K28 TB

I was hoping Graham would drop to me in the 14th. Early bye, high scoring team. Bryant is meh, but still a solid B

15.15 EBF New Orleans, D/ST20

16.02 EBF Cincinnati, D/ST22

Two middle of the road defences ... won't hurt you but won't save you any weeks either. C

Another decent team but I'm afraid the lack of RB depth and sure fire producers may make it difficult.

Fair points, although I think you're underrating my RBs. This is a 16 team league. There are 32 starting RBs in the NFL. Simple math says each team in our league should have an average of two NFL starters. I have two NFL starters. It would be nice to have 3-4, but most of the teams in this league aren't going to have that luxury. I view Thomas Jones as a below average RB1 and Lynch as an above average RB2. Combined, they should form an adequate 1-2 punch.

 

[Atomic Punk]

4.09 Lhucks Donovan McNabb QB5 PHI13.08 Lhucks Charlie Frye, QB34 CLEI'm not as down on this duo as Lhucks is. Surely McNabb can't get hurt again. Fyre was a cheap bye week policy. B+1.08 Lhucks Willie Parker, RB8 PIT2.09 Lhucks Edgerin James, RB18 ARZ10.09 Lhucks Dominic Rhodes, RB48 OAK11.08 Lhucks Adrian Peterson, RB52 CHI Edge was a steal. Rhodes fell too far. Don't like the Peterson pick, I think Shipp or Barlow/Davenpoop may have been a better option later. A-3.08 Lhucks Marques Colston, WR14 NO5.08 Lhucks Terry Glenn, WR27 DAL7.08 Lhucks Muhsin Muhammad, WR36 CHI8.09 Lhucks Matt Jones, WR41 JAX17.08 Lhucks Ernest Wilford, WR86 JAX12.09 Lhucks Ashlie Lelie, WR71 SF 18.09 Lhucks Rod Smith, WR90 DENVery solid group, to the point that Smith was probably a waste. Any one else concerned that he might get cut? Like the Jones/Wilford pairing. A-6.09 Lhucks Alge Crumpler, TE7 ATLNot much to add. B+14.09 Lhucks Jeff Wilkins, K6 SL15.08 Lhucks Neil Rackers, K14 ARITwo of the better kickers. A9.08 Lhucks Chicago D/ST116.09 Lhucks Arizona, D/ST26Stud D. ALhucks benefited from some bad drafting / reaches around his draft position. Probably one of my favorites to win, but much like myself, he left little margin for error at a couple of keys positions. Barring injury this will be very tough squad.

I completely agree with BNB's assessment. LHUCKS may be the team to beat if all is well in Philly and McNabb can rebound from his injury this year.

 

[AB in DC]

EBF - I see Jones as a below average RB1, Lynch as an average RB2, and Booker as a way below average RB3. I think he was a reach there, and won't be much better than the RBs drafted in rounds 17-18.

I think you'd have been better off with Pittman/Rhodes/Henry in round 10 to shore up that position, then drafted WR at 11.15 instead of Troupe. With Heap, you could have waited longer for your TE2 -- maybe skipped it entirely, depending on where the value fell.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Amazing how you can see what you want to see....Benson - Not Top 20. ADP - Not Top 20. Turner - Not Top 20. No one will drool over 4 guys outside of a Top 20.I think Benson was a reach at 16. That's my opinion. Gates in a 16 teamer - no issue with his selection, but I think he's not super-better than every other TE on the board. You got him where you'd have to take him to have him - but I don't agree with having only 1 TE in Survivor.I agree on one of your points in that I have Turner ranked too high. Hadn't noticed that before - he should be a few notches lower and in the 30s.As for my strong dislike of your team, it all comes down to the mess at QB and using 4 of 18 spots on them.

Lets see what I see...Some expert has Gates ranked at #19 overall and his next best TE is ranked at #50 overall. That's for a non-ppr league. This is a 2 pt ppr league. FYI... 50 - 19 = 31. I guess that's not super better.Benson a reach??? Per the consensus rankings...

16 Edgerrin James, ARI 17 Ronnie Brown, MIA  18 Cedric Benson, CHI

Pretty much a coin flip. With 15 of the 1st 15 picks being RB, the die was cast. Passing on one of these guys would have been suicide. Now I realize you don't like Benson, but let's disect your rankings further.Jeff P RB rankings14 Ronnie Brown24 Cedric Benson32 Lorenzo Booker49 Adrian Peterson, CHIAnd for some perspective let's look at last years rushing stats by team.#15 Chicago 503 1918 3.8 119.9 14#22 Miami 402 1673 4.2 104.6 7 Even if I concede that Miami's rushing attack substantially improves with one of the crappy QBs I drafted and Chicago suddenly becomes a passing attack, please explain how it's conceivably possible for Miami to have two NFL starting caliber performers. I'll make a wager with you, if Booker posts RB32 or better numbers, Brown is not sniffing the top 20 at RB.Back to Gates, his scores last year in this format: 12 13 bye 12 17 26 30 16 6 16 14 26 29 36 2 8 19 For argument let's take a fairly highly ranked 2006 TE Watson11 9 15 5 11 16 29 13 5 23 28 10 2I would have picked up 15 points during the week 3 bye, 7 points in week 10, and 14 points in week 11. That's assuming I would have used a 8th or 9th round pick to select the TE who finished ranked number 10 last year. The numbers get worse if you want to look at late round flyer TEs. Drafting at the end of the serpent, you have to be agressive to make up the advantage the earlier picks have. As I said before, if Gates goes down for the year, Robert Royal or Leonard Pope aren't going to lead me to a title.The shark move with late round picks is to attempt to strengthen your weakness, not add stiffs that won't contribute. If C-Pep plays this year he'll look like a steal in the 20th round.

Blah blah blah blah.....Your team would have been significantly better if you had taken Peyton and Gates rather than Benson and Gates. Then you would have had 2-3 more roster spots to cover your zeroes.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Looking forward to the beating I'm going to take. Just be sure that when you call my players turds that they aren't real high on your published rankings.

And when you go on vacation to the mountains you may want to bring a Top 17 list with someone named "Manning" on it before you leave.

 

[BassNBrew]

Blah blah blah blah.....

Translation - I got oVVned in this discussion by Bass. Actually not just oVVned, throughly oVVned.

 

[BassNBrew]

Looking forward to the beating I'm going to take. Just be sure that when you call my players turds that they aren't real high on your published rankings.

And when you go on vacation to the mountains you may want to bring a Top 17 list with someone named "Manning" on it before you leave.

QB has always been over rated in this format. You'll learn young apprentice.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Amazing how you can see what you want to see....

Benson - Not Top 20. ADP - Not Top 20. Turner - Not Top 20. No one will drool over 4 guys outside of a Top 20.

I think Benson was a reach at 16. That's my opinion.

Gates in a 16 teamer - no issue with his selection, but I think he's not super-better than every other TE on the board. You got him where you'd have to take him to have him - but I don't agree with having only 1 TE in Survivor.

I agree on one of your points in that I have Turner ranked too high. Hadn't noticed that before - he should be a few notches lower and in the 30s.

As for my strong dislike of your team, it all comes down to the mess at QB and using 4 of 18 spots on them.

Lets see what I see...Some expert has Gates ranked at #19 overall and his next best TE is ranked at #50 overall. That's for a non-ppr league. This is a 2 pt ppr league. FYI... 50 - 19 = 31. I guess that's not super better.

Didn't question Gates - just said he regressed. Maybe if you read more closely such things as my rankings you'd learn a thing or two....

Benson a reach??? Per the consensus rankings...

So which argument are you going to use, MY rankings or consensus? Since you want to throw MY rankings under the bus, perhaps you might want to use them. Oh, wait - they don't prove your point - so you can't.

Jeff P RB rankings

14 Ronnie Brown

24 Cedric Benson

32 Lorenzo Booker

49 Adrian Peterson, CHI

Ah, well, we're back to MY rankings. Maybe Bass has learned something.....

And for some perspective let's look at last years rushing stats by team.

#15 Chicago 503 1918 3.8 119.9 14

#22 Miami 402 1673 4.2 104.6 7

Even if I concede that Miami's rushing attack substantially improves with one of the crappy QBs I drafted and Chicago suddenly becomes a passing attack, please explain how it's conceivably possible for Miami to have two NFL starting caliber performers. I'll make a wager with you, if Booker posts RB32 or better numbers, Brown is not sniffing the top 20 at RB.

I guess not. He's using 2006 numbers to validate 2007 selections. Apparently he missed the part where Thomas Jones left and Brittle Benson is the starter. Add in that the other Adrian Peterson will be taking 25% or more of the carries this year - but again that doesn't validate his argument.Neither does Miami having nothing at QB (despite what Bass wants to believe) and the drafting of Booker tell you that they are copying the new 2-RB model from last year's Final 4 teams. Miami will run more and more effectively with two good backs, not just one. Apparently 2006 numbers don't reflect Lorenzo Booker's influence - maybe someone should pay more attention to the NFL Draft.

The shark move with late round picks is to attempt to strengthen your weakness, not add stiffs that won't contribute. If C-Pep plays this year he'll look like a steal in the 20th round.

He would be a steal since we had 18 rounds, but nice jobs adding stiffs all the same. All this because BNB didn't draft Manning instead of Benson - I might actually start to like his team then. Too bad.

 

[Atomic Punk]

I'm going to do one more before I call it a night.

Critique of FFdude ...

4.12 FFDude69 Marc Bulger, QB6 STL

8.12 FFDude69 Jason Campbell QB24 WAS

13.05 FFDude69 A Feeley, QB33 PHI

Love the 1-2 combo. I think it may have been a little early for Bulger but if you want a guy you have to go out and get him. I have a good feeling about the Rams offense this year. Campbell is another guy that is getting some good press lately and has an opportunity to really be special. I agree with another that said Feeley was a wasted pick and you may done better by grabbing a higher ranked D/ST ... still merits an A-

1.05 FFDude69 Larry Johnson, RB5 KC

2.12 FFDude69 Willis McGahee, RB19 BAL

7.05 FFDude69 Brandon Jackson RB41 GB

12.12 FFDude69 Chris Brown RB56 TEN

Excellent depth in a 16 team survivor. LJ is still LJ and should put up a ton of points and Willis is an excellent RB2 in this format. The week 8 bye may be tricky. Jackson should start to pick up more playing time when you need him in the second half of the season. Not to belabor the point but you could have had either Denver or Philly D/ST at 12.12 and still could have grabbed Brown after the turn. Hard to argue with that 1-2 punch and a great RB3 so this warrants an A-

3.05 FFDude69 Andre Johnson, WR13 HOU

5.05 FFDude69 Reggie Brown, WR26 PHI

9.05 FFDude69 Brandon Jones, WR49 TEN

10.12 FFDude69 Bobby Engram WR58 SEA

11.05 FFDude69 Drew Carter WR63 CAR

The raves will continue with this bunch. Johnson production floor is still great for round three production and his stats could improve a great deal with a new (better ?) QB and a second year in the offense. Brown is great value in the 5th as is Jones in the 9th. I had my eye on Engram as a great WR4 but kept putting it off and eventually lost out. I can only give out so many A's so I guess it is a B+

6.12 FFDude69 Chris cooley, TE8 W

18.12 FFDude69 R. Royal TE BUF

I like Cooley, but if there is one weakness it is at TE. Royal has shown promise but if Cooley's stats continue to tail off like I think they did last year (going from memory, no stats to back me up) you may be in trouble here. Similar to my teams grade C+

14.12 FFDude69 Stephen Gostkowski, K8 NE

17.05 FFDude69 Jeff Reed K25 PIT

Great 1-2 punch. I have Reed ranked in the top 12 so he is excellent value IMO. A-

15.05 FFDude69 Buffalo D/ST17

16.12 FFDude69 St. Louis, D/ST28

Nothing much to speak of C-

IMO, another great team that should be hard to beat if they are still around after week 8.

 

[BassNBrew]

I guess not. He's using 2006 numbers to validate 2007 selections. Apparently he missed the part where Thomas Jones left and Brittle Benson is the starter. Add in that the other Adrian Peterson will be taking 25% or more of the carries this year - but again that doesn't validate his argument.Neither does Miami having nothing at QB (despite what Bass wants to believe) and the drafting of Booker tell you that they are copying the new 2-RB model from last year's Final 4 teams. Miami will run more and more effectively with two good backs, not just one. Apparently 2006 numbers don't reflect Lorenzo Booker's influence - maybe someone should pay more attention to the NFL Draft.

25 RB Brown,Ronnie MIA 13 242 1005 5 33 276 0 3 158.156 RB Morris,Sammy MIA 12 92 400 1 21 162 0 2 62.2112 RB Minor,Travis MIA 16 19 74 0 3 2 0 0 7.6So drafting Booker improved the OL and made the passing game potent enough of a threat that ironhorse Brown will rocket up the charts while leaving enough room for Booker to finish in the top 32.Sorry Jeff but your rankings are tremendously flawed. Either you believe in Brown or Booker, not both...the Miami offense can't support both. I think your dynasty thought process is clouding your redraft rankings. I know your high on Booker, but you better clear space to get him to number 32.Maybe someone should pay more attention to numerous other key areas and stats outside of the draft.

 

[BassNBrew]

but I think he's not super-better than every other TE on the board. Didn't question Gates - just said he regressed. Maybe if you read more closely such things as my rankings you'd learn a thing or two....

Yet you have Gates and your second ranked TE a mile apart in your current rankings. Either your rankings are wrong or your comments are wrong.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

but I think he's not super-better than every other TE on the board. Didn't question Gates - just said he regressed. Maybe if you read more closely such things as my rankings you'd learn a thing or two....

Yet you have Gates and your second ranked TE a mile apart in your current rankings. Either your rankings are wrong or your comments are wrong.

1. The overall rankings for a 12 team redraft do not directly apply to a 16 team survivor draft.2. Gates is not super better than every TE any longer in a PPR format. He has regressed. His QB isn't stellar. Other TEs are gaining on him (Crump, Heap, Shockey). 3. Using the #19 player vs. the #51 player argument is flawed. PPR brings TEs closer together in value as the effects of yardage and TDs are lessened. You should really quit while you're behind.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I guess not. He's using 2006 numbers to validate 2007 selections. Apparently he missed the part where Thomas Jones left and Brittle Benson is the starter. Add in that the other Adrian Peterson will be taking 25% or more of the carries this year - but again that doesn't validate his argument.Neither does Miami having nothing at QB (despite what Bass wants to believe) and the drafting of Booker tell you that they are copying the new 2-RB model from last year's Final 4 teams. Miami will run more and more effectively with two good backs, not just one. Apparently 2006 numbers don't reflect Lorenzo Booker's influence - maybe someone should pay more attention to the NFL Draft.

25 RB Brown,Ronnie MIA 13 242 1005 5 33 276 0 3 158.156 RB Morris,Sammy MIA 12 92 400 1 21 162 0 2 62.2112 RB Minor,Travis MIA 16 19 74 0 3 2 0 0 7.6So drafting Booker improved the OL and made the passing game potent enough of a threat that ironhorse Brown will rocket up the charts while leaving enough room for Booker to finish in the top 32.Sorry Jeff but your rankings are tremendously flawed. Either you believe in Brown or Booker, not both...the Miami offense can't support both. I think your dynasty thought process is clouding your redraft rankings. I know your high on Booker, but you better clear space to get him to number 32.Maybe someone should pay more attention to numerous other key areas and stats outside of the draft.

Exactly how much did the O-lines improve in Jacksonville (MJD), New Orleans (Bush), Indianapolis (Addai), and New England (Maroney) improve with the additions of new RBs in the mix?Booker is a poor man's version of Reggie Bush. Using Booker the same way as NO uses Bush will open up the offense for both backs, and both can be Top 32 RBs. Miami's passing game will be a joke - no TE of note (McMichael gone) and the QB is a mess. They'll run much more than pass.

 

[EBF]

EBF - I see Jones as a below average RB1, Lynch as an average RB2, and Booker as a way below average RB3. I think he was a reach there, and won't be much better than the RBs drafted in rounds 17-18.I think you'd have been better off with Pittman/Rhodes/Henry in round 10 to shore up that position, then drafted WR at 11.15 instead of Troupe. With Heap, you could have waited longer for your TE2 -- maybe skipped it entirely, depending on where the value fell.

We'll see. I have Thomas Jones rated higher than most. And I think Booker has a real chance to pile up some catches. He won't be a stud, but a top 45 RB is a viable RB3 in this format. RB is definitely my team's weakness, but I think my strength at QB, WR, and TE will help me ride out the storm. A lot of teams are going to be posting 6-8 points every week from their TE while I'm getting 12-20. It will make a big difference. Ultimately, I'll have to stay healthy and catch a few breaks. That's how you win these things.

 

[LHUCKS]

5.15 EBF Matt Hasselbeck, QB11 SEA

7.15 EBF Alex Smith, QB19 SF

Great job here...I like to see two solid QBs that don't miss a lot of games.

1.15 EBF RB Thomas Jones, RB15 NYJ

3.15 EBF Marshawn Lynch, RB25 BUF

9.15 EBF Lorenzo Booker RB45, MIA

Not a big fan of this move. You can go three RBs, but all three have to contribute for an entire year. The Booker/Lynch combo doesn't strike me as guranteed depth for a 16 game season.

2.02 EBF Chad Johnson WR1 CIN

6.02 EBF Santonio Holmes, WR30 PIT

8.02 EBF Reggie Williams, WR40 JAX

10.02 EBF Michael Clayton, WR55 TB

13.15 EBF Nathan Washington WR79 PIT

12.02 EBF Martin Booker, WR67 MIA

18.02 EBF Roscoe Parrish, WR87 BUF

Would like to see one more solid starter, and I'm not a tremendous fan of your depth but going seven deep was wise. You've got three players that may not be a #3 WR. That being said you do have Chad Johnson at the top so most weeks you'll only need two of the remaining six to put up numbers. I'd say average overall.

4.02 EBF Todd Heap, TE2 BAL

11.15 EBF Ben Troupe, TE20 TEN

Solid, didn't really need Troupe...would have definitely gone RB4 or WR8.

14.02 EBF Shayne Graham, K2 CIN

17.15 EBF Matt Bryant, K28 TB

15.15 EBF New Orleans, D/ST20

16.02 EBF Cincinnati, D/ST22

SolidOverall I think this is another average team...your RB and WR depth scare me, but your QB/TE/K/D positions are all solid enough to keep you around until things get really bad at WR/RB.

 

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Don't like the Peterson pick, I think Shipp or Barlow/Davenpoop may have been a better option later. A-

I have no idea why people don't like Peterson...he's going to get carries every week and Benson is far from a proven workhorse...part of the reason they let go of Jones was because Peterson provided solid depth.

Very solid group, to the point that Smith was probably a waste. Any one else concerned that he might get cut? Like the Jones/Wilford pairing. A-

Smith is tremendously popular in Denver...don't be surprised if he's able to beat out Marshall for the WR#2...he was playing injured much of last year. He has no chance of getting cut and is a lock for the #3 spot.