Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Apparently the other thread is for spoilers but only if you liked the movie. I am not putting any filters on what you want to say about Star Wars. If you loved it, awesome. If you didn't I would like to read why you had issues or perhaps even enjoyed it but have reservations about a lot of things.
I was not overwhelmed as much as I thought I was going to be. I hoped that is wasn't a carbon copy but the reality is they followed the same script and flipped a few things around like genders and such to not ruffle too many feathers and get the masses of folks thinking this was a better movie than the other previous 3. I would rank it ahead of '99 and '02 but the '05 edition was interesting and very true to story for die hards even in the face of Hayden.
There were so many similarities it was hard to say they were paying homage to it, felt like they just wanted to redo the whole film. That's an idea as many films are completely redone and marketed that way but this was supposed to be anew story. 6 year olds won't know the difference but most 40 year old folks and up should remember a little bit about the theater experience when they saw this movie.
I do want to say that I bumped into a kid on the way out of the theater named Finn, that was his name. He was in a little robe, mom was dressed up like Leia, he loved the movie. It put a smile on my face and I realize a lot of this movie if for them and the big toy run and all that follows it. But there was plenty and perhaps even too much winking and nodding at the adults in the audience.
I think more than a few folks are going to find fault. I liked this better than say Indiana and Skulls but there is plenty of room for improvement.
One of my biggest gripes is Solo's son. No reason for the mask other than his idol wore a mask but he is pathetic. It would have been stronger if he had not worn the mask and then we and he discover that in order to get respect he will now have to wear a mask. That would have been a much stronger choice but they opted for a GI Joe Cobra rip off with a goofy com voice and then when he takes it off we have an ex-choir boy who can still sing in the higher alto section. And he wants to go wake up Luke Skywalker? He could destroy them all and then rub it in Luke's face but no he would rather destroy his army in the process just to get the info to try and find him in the first place, brilliant.
The initial contact with Han and Solo is pretty jarring. They were just out running circus animals across the galaxy and suddenly are front and center ready to take on whoever and whatever. But its not terrible either, kind of fun to see the old gang. Solo becomes the major piece of the film. Not sure how Harrison broke his ankle on set, he never moves fast or does anything quickly. The death scene you could see coming a mile away, sad Han Solo didn't just blast him and forgive himself later. Of course how could he because his son could stop any weapon he might produce which makes it a lot different than Obiwon being sacrificed, at least he could defend himself.
And Luke at the end, we had to sacrifice and put up with a lot just to reach out and find this guy. For what reason, I'm not understanding. Does anyone think this kid has a chance vs Luke? He couldn't destroy the 2 young'ins who never picked up a lightsaber in their life before. Now he is going to kill Skywalker?
The hologram that looked like something from LotR was annoying and out of place. That and Solo Jr are the new Vader and Emperor, again very repetitive.
I was not overwhelmed as much as I thought I was going to be. I hoped that is wasn't a carbon copy but the reality is they followed the same script and flipped a few things around like genders and such to not ruffle too many feathers and get the masses of folks thinking this was a better movie than the other previous 3. I would rank it ahead of '99 and '02 but the '05 edition was interesting and very true to story for die hards even in the face of Hayden.
There were so many similarities it was hard to say they were paying homage to it, felt like they just wanted to redo the whole film. That's an idea as many films are completely redone and marketed that way but this was supposed to be anew story. 6 year olds won't know the difference but most 40 year old folks and up should remember a little bit about the theater experience when they saw this movie.
I do want to say that I bumped into a kid on the way out of the theater named Finn, that was his name. He was in a little robe, mom was dressed up like Leia, he loved the movie. It put a smile on my face and I realize a lot of this movie if for them and the big toy run and all that follows it. But there was plenty and perhaps even too much winking and nodding at the adults in the audience.
I think more than a few folks are going to find fault. I liked this better than say Indiana and Skulls but there is plenty of room for improvement.
One of my biggest gripes is Solo's son. No reason for the mask other than his idol wore a mask but he is pathetic. It would have been stronger if he had not worn the mask and then we and he discover that in order to get respect he will now have to wear a mask. That would have been a much stronger choice but they opted for a GI Joe Cobra rip off with a goofy com voice and then when he takes it off we have an ex-choir boy who can still sing in the higher alto section. And he wants to go wake up Luke Skywalker? He could destroy them all and then rub it in Luke's face but no he would rather destroy his army in the process just to get the info to try and find him in the first place, brilliant.
The initial contact with Han and Solo is pretty jarring. They were just out running circus animals across the galaxy and suddenly are front and center ready to take on whoever and whatever. But its not terrible either, kind of fun to see the old gang. Solo becomes the major piece of the film. Not sure how Harrison broke his ankle on set, he never moves fast or does anything quickly. The death scene you could see coming a mile away, sad Han Solo didn't just blast him and forgive himself later. Of course how could he because his son could stop any weapon he might produce which makes it a lot different than Obiwon being sacrificed, at least he could defend himself.
And Luke at the end, we had to sacrifice and put up with a lot just to reach out and find this guy. For what reason, I'm not understanding. Does anyone think this kid has a chance vs Luke? He couldn't destroy the 2 young'ins who never picked up a lightsaber in their life before. Now he is going to kill Skywalker?
The hologram that looked like something from LotR was annoying and out of place. That and Solo Jr are the new Vader and Emperor, again very repetitive.
