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Start 2 QB Draft Help (1 Viewer)

Goooals

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Wow! I'm getting such a late start to analyzing the 2010 FF season. One of my leagues has a start 2 QB format and I'm having a little difficulty coming up with some information.

Any help will be appreciated or if you have access to a 2 QB Mock, please feel free to post.

Cheers!

 
I am in a 2QB league and the only thing i did for it was input all the information into draft dominator and it spit out all of the ADP and value of each player. At least in my league, it bumps all the QB's up a notch. Brees, Rodgers, and Peyton were all taken in the first round.

 
10 team start 2 QB league that drafted last Sunday night. Keep in mind we also start 5 IDP's so that moves backups especially down a little. My guys bolded.

1.7 Aaron Rodgers

1.8 Peyton Manning

1.10 Drew Brees

2.4 Tony Romo

2.9 Tom Brady

3.1 Philip Rivers

3.4 Matt Schaub

3.6 Kevin Kolb

4.2 Brett Farve

4.5 Eli Manning

5.2 Jay Cutler

5.5 Joe Flacco

5.10 Matt Ryan

6.3 Carson Palmer

6.6 Alex Smith

8.2 Donovan McNabb

9.4 Chad Henne

9.8 Ben Roethlisberger

10.10 Matt Stafford

13.6 Matt Lienert

13.7 Matt Hassleback

13.9 Jake Delhomme

13.10 Kyle Orton

14.8 Vince Young

14.9 David Garrard

14.10 Matt Cassel

15.4 Jason Campbell

16.6 Matt Moore

20.5 Mark Sanchez

23.3 Josh Freeman

24.8 Trent Edwards

 
Should be interesting. It all depends on the guys in your league. If this is a brand new 2QB league, then they might still have an old school mindset of RB WR before QB and you could get some good QBs in the 3rd and 4th rounds. If its a group of guys that know what to expect, then you will see 5-8 QBs gone by the start of the 3rd round. Have to look at your scoring system too. If there's a premium for TD passes and yards, then QB's are worth the higher pick.

Like any draft, analyze your owners, your scoring system and your pick then use it to get an idea of who will go where.

 
kevin kolb's adp position is CRAZY. people are going to be pissed come midseason when he is bottom 10 in the league for qb's.

 
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kevin kolb's adp position is CRAZY. people are going to be pissed come midseason when he is bottom 10 in the league for qb's.
He's not going to be bottom 10. I just don't think he'll light the world on fire either. Bottom 10 would be below Freeman, Delhomme, Hasselback, Garrard, etc. That's damn near impossible. He'll be fine. Probably 3700 yds, 20 tds, 15 ints.
 
kevin kolb's adp position is CRAZY. people are going to be pissed come midseason when he is bottom 10 in the league for qb's.
Care to unpack this a bit? Why do you think he'll be bottom 10?
I don't to be honest. but he won't sniff top 10. Yeah, i know he plays in a pass happy offense and he has a lot of weapons, but to me he is a guy who has played two full NFL games (good games, but still just two) against very lousy teams. He is going to throw a lot of picks and PHI is brutal to their players when they don;t perform. Look at the way they treated DM. Kolb isnt half the QB he is.
 
kevin kolb's adp position is CRAZY. people are going to be pissed come midseason when he is bottom 10 in the league for qb's.
Care to unpack this a bit? Why do you think he'll be bottom 10?
I don't to be honest. but he won't sniff top 10. Yeah, i know he plays in a pass happy offense and he has a lot of weapons, but to me he is a guy who has played two full NFL games (good games, but still just two) against very lousy teams. He is going to throw a lot of picks and PHI is brutal to their players when they don;t perform. Look at the way they treated DM. Kolb isnt half the QB he is.
Theres a misconception. Philly is brutal to players that don't try their best or whine while they are doing it. We love guys like Aaron Rowand who will run through a wall. We'll cheer Roy Oswalt taking one for the team and playing left field when no bench players are left. We love our hardnose crazy players like Dawkins even though as many plays as he made, he'd still let up a big bomb occasionally. We never got down on him cause we know he'd give it his all and take full responsibility for his failures. McNabb never fully accpeted responsibility. There was always an excuse. I know because I made many excuses for him over the years. When he blamed our "youth" last year for the Dallas losses though, I was done with him. He was whining about other players when he was awful. Thats what Philly fans hate. Kolb gets it. He's stepped up to the plate and answered every question thrown at him so far. He's stated why the team needs to improve and how he needs to do it. He's never said he's the leader but people just know he is. Kolb is our kind of guy. As long as he tries his hardest and gets it done, then he'll be fine.
 
kevin kolb's adp position is CRAZY. people are going to be pissed come midseason when he is bottom 10 in the league for qb's.
Care to unpack this a bit? Why do you think he'll be bottom 10?
I don't to be honest. but he won't sniff top 10. Yeah, i know he plays in a pass happy offense and he has a lot of weapons, but to me he is a guy who has played two full NFL games (good games, but still just two) against very lousy teams. He is going to throw a lot of picks and PHI is brutal to their players when they don;t perform. Look at the way they treated DM. Kolb isnt half the QB he is.
Theres a misconception. Philly is brutal to players that don't try their best or whine while they are doing it. We love guys like Aaron Rowand who will run through a wall. We'll cheer Roy Oswalt taking one for the team and playing left field when no bench players are left. We love our hardnose crazy players like Dawkins even though as many plays as he made, he'd still let up a big bomb occasionally. We never got down on him cause we know he'd give it his all and take full responsibility for his failures. McNabb never fully accpeted responsibility. There was always an excuse. I know because I made many excuses for him over the years. When he blamed our "youth" last year for the Dallas losses though, I was done with him. He was whining about other players when he was awful. Thats what Philly fans hate.

Kolb gets it. He's stepped up to the plate and answered every question thrown at him so far. He's stated why the team needs to improve and how he needs to do it. He's never said he's the leader but people just know he is. Kolb is our kind of guy. As long as he tries his hardest and gets it done, then he'll be fine.
in summary,rowand is the man becuase he sucked for his 1 full year of playing in philly

oswalt is legit because he has made about 7 starts in a phillies uniform and stood in left field for 5 minutes

kolb is the real deal because he had 2 good games last year against 2 awful teams

but mcnabb is a POS because your media shreds him at every chance because he wanted to be surrounded by a better cast.

mcnabb has more guts than all 3 players you mentioned above COMBINED.

in conclusion, philly likes to flame their stars and run them out of town, but loves the inconsequential stuff. got it.

ETA: your last sentence is so funny. what if he just works his ### off? Fact, if he works hard and sucks, philly fans will boo him off the field -- FACT.

 
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kevin kolb's adp position is CRAZY. people are going to be pissed come midseason when he is bottom 10 in the league for qb's.
Care to unpack this a bit? Why do you think he'll be bottom 10?
I don't to be honest. but he won't sniff top 10. Yeah, i know he plays in a pass happy offense and he has a lot of weapons, but to me he is a guy who has played two full NFL games (good games, but still just two) against very lousy teams. He is going to throw a lot of picks and PHI is brutal to their players when they don;t perform. Look at the way they treated DM. Kolb isnt half the QB he is.
Theres a misconception. Philly is brutal to players that don't try their best or whine while they are doing it. We love guys like Aaron Rowand who will run through a wall. We'll cheer Roy Oswalt taking one for the team and playing left field when no bench players are left. We love our hardnose crazy players like Dawkins even though as many plays as he made, he'd still let up a big bomb occasionally. We never got down on him cause we know he'd give it his all and take full responsibility for his failures. McNabb never fully accpeted responsibility. There was always an excuse. I know because I made many excuses for him over the years. When he blamed our "youth" last year for the Dallas losses though, I was done with him. He was whining about other players when he was awful. Thats what Philly fans hate.

Kolb gets it. He's stepped up to the plate and answered every question thrown at him so far. He's stated why the team needs to improve and how he needs to do it. He's never said he's the leader but people just know he is. Kolb is our kind of guy. As long as he tries his hardest and gets it done, then he'll be fine.
in summary,rowand is the man becuase he sucked for his 1 full year of playing in philly

oswalt is legit because he has made about 7 starts in a phillies uniform and stood in left field for 5 minutes

kolb is the real deal because he had 2 good games last year against 2 awful teams

but mcnabb is a POS because your media shreds him at every chance because he wanted to be surrounded by a better cast.

mcnabb has more guts than all 3 players you mentioned above COMBINED.

in conclusion, philly likes to flame their stars and run them out of town, but loves the inconsequential stuff. got it.

ETA: your last sentence is so funny. what if he just works his ### off? Fact, if he works hard and sucks, philly fans will boo him off the field -- FACT.
Perhaps you misunderstood. Our media shreds him yes. The minority in Philly shreds him. The majority loved him though. McNabb was the best QB we've ever had for this franchise. But it was time to move on. 10 years and no title. With a youth movement, McNabb doesn't really fit in. He wanted out as much as people wanted to move on. I loved McNabb for years but when he started blaming other players for the teams failures, it was over. You don't live in philly so I'm not sure why you care. You don't have a clue how people act in this town.

 
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I play in a PPR league where you need to start 2 QBs, 3 RBs, 4 WRs, and 1 TE. We've been using this format for 5 years and I still couldn't tell you when is the right time to grab a QB. The only thing I know (and don't always follow because I'm an idiot) is that you shouldn't draft a TE until very late.

 
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You don't live in philly so I'm not sure why you care. You don't have a clue how people act in this town.
neither do you.
Says the man who doesn't live here.
im from new england and i have relatives in philly. one of my closest friends is from philly. i get it.
Well my brother in law lives in Boston. Guess that means I know how Pats fans think too. :thumbup:
most do.
 
Bump to the Saturday night crew. Any draft results would be greatly appreciated as I draft Sunday morning.

Thanks and good luck to everyone this season!

 
Off the top of my head since I don't have the draft results in front of me here is how the first few rounds of my 2 QB draft played out.

Round 1: Rodgers, Brees, Manning

Round 2: Brady, Romo, Schaub

Round 3: Flacco, Kolb

Round 4: Rivers, Farve, Palmer

This is from a small 8 team division in a much larger league, so you can see everybody had a starter by the end of the 3rd round and some ended up taking a QB2 in as early as the 4th round. In total there were 30QB's drafted.

I personally ended up with Schaub, Eli, and Garrard selecting out of the 4 spot.

Hope this could be somewhat helpful and best of luck with your draft. Best piece of advice is to just let the draft come to you(more then likely there will be a few head scratching picks if your not drafting with "sharks"), a bunch of talent will fall to you in the middle rounds with all the QB's that will be selected early. I personally was targeting Rodgers at 1.4 both him and Brees went 1.2 and 1.3 leaving me with ADP.

 
I've been playing in a 2 QB, 10 man league now for 10 years and even though our highest scoring position is QB, most guys hesitate to take QBs early. I'm not one of them and I've been to the SB the last 3 years and the SB winner always has one thing in common, at least 1 STUD QB. I lost last year to the guy who had Rogers, I had P. Manning. Got him in the Number 10 slot.

I would think that Rogers, Brees and possibly Manning MAY go in the first. Brady, Romo, Rivers and Shaub go rounds 2 and 3 IF your guys draft smart. If they don't, you might be able to get a steal in the 4th with one of those guys. Then there might be a few rounds where very few QB's go. People who don't do there homework will not draft a QB in the first few rounds. They wait, and there is a QB run in the 5th, 6th. Last year, by round QBs went 3,1,4,0,1,1,7. So the Studs went early, then nothing much until the 7th round.

I draft #7 this year, and I will draft a QB unless, by some chance, an RB falls, and I don't think one of the Top 5 RB's is going to fall, so I believe that Brees or Manning will be there. I know Brady, Romo, Shaub and Rivers will be there. The latter might be there in the 2nd, and I will not hesitate to go QB-QB if one is.

My Projections dominator has 5 QB's in the top 10, 4 RBs and 1 WR. I know, seems crazy and not anything like 1 QB, 2 RB leagues, but that is why I love it. The draft, is very, very interesting, and every year, I take a stud QB in rounds 1 or 2, and I hear "OH Man, an QB, your crazy to take a QB that early.........Well, they will learn some day..

 
Great post. I also draft in the #7 slot this year and I doubt gore or turner will be there. If not, I go Rogers or brees. In the second though, I probably take Mendenhall or Matthews as I see them as the only non RBBC backs left in the draft. I'm torn as Moss, Fitz or Wayne will also be around at 2.13, but not in the third.

 
Goooals said:
Great post. I also draft in the #7 slot this year and I doubt gore or turner will be there. If not, I go Rogers or brees. In the second though, I probably take Mendenhall or Matthews as I see them as the only non RBBC backs left in the draft. I'm torn as Moss, Fitz or Wayne will also be around at 2.13, but not in the third.
I'm picking out of the 7 spot in a 2 QB league as well. I'm planning to take Rodgers or Brees with my first pick. But I'm also hoping to land my second QB in the 2nd round (Manning is doubtful, so probably Romo or Brady). I think there is a lot of RB value in the mid-rounds, and I don't want to have to reach for a QB like Eli or Flacco in the mid-rounds.
 
Not a bad idea for me if Manning is still available. If not, I'm just not sure I want to grab Brady, Schaub, Romo or Rivers that early. I doubt any of them are there at 3.8. Mendenhall and Matthews are still my problem at 2.3 versus a top WR.

Hmmmm, not sure what to do yet.

 
With the 3rd and 4th pick in my 2 leagues, I'm going Rodgers if he is still there. Maybe Rivers on the back swing in round 2.

 
I've been playing in a 2QB league with .5ppr and 6pt/passing TD for about 8 years now.

I can tell you that almost every year, 7 QB's are gone in the first two rounds. I expect nothing different this year.

I've made the playoffs every year (top 6 out of 10 make it) and won the league 3 times (competition isn't always that tough in this league). I've used the following strategies:

3 straight RB's

1 RB followed by 3 straight WR's

2 straight QB's

and I've finished in first or 2nd in the regular season each time.

But I can tell you that the strategy I've fallen in love with is the 2 straight QB one. If you pick from the 7-10 position, you are pretty sure to end up with:

1 of Rodgers, Brees, or P.Manning AND

1 of Brady, Romo, Schaub

Imagine starting each game with Rodgers and Schaub - deadly. While other teams are starting with McNabb and Campbell. The value in this strategy is not so much in the distance you create with the first QB, it comes from the distance created with the 2nd QB. Sure, Rodgers will beat McNabb most weeks, but Schaub should destroy any other teams' 2nd QB, unless that team also goes 2QB's in the first 2 rounds. While you will get beat at RB and WR, I think the difference there is less than the difference created at the QB position, particularly in 6pt/TD leagues. Plus, with the volatility and turnover at the RB position, there are always gems to be found off the waiver wire. You'll rarely find stud QB's on the WW.

To pull this strategy off, you HAVE to have alot of confidence at picking gems at RB and WR in the later rounds, because of the regular guys will be gone.

 
Goooals said:
Great post. I also draft in the #7 slot this year and I doubt gore or turner will be there. If not, I go Rogers or brees. In the second though, I probably take Mendenhall or Matthews as I see them as the only non RBBC backs left in the draft. I'm torn as Moss, Fitz or Wayne will also be around at 2.13, but not in the third.
I'm picking out of the 7 spot in a 2 QB league as well. I'm planning to take Rodgers or Brees with my first pick. But I'm also hoping to land my second QB in the 2nd round (Manning is doubtful, so probably Romo or Brady). I think there is a lot of RB value in the mid-rounds, and I don't want to have to reach for a QB like Eli or Flacco in the mid-rounds.
We get to choose our draft spots, and in my 2QB league I chose 7 for the exact same reason - see above post.
 
Just finished my draft. Not finishing well the last couple of years, I decided to mix it up a bit as I mentioned when I started the thread.

10 Team, non-ppr

Here are my first few picks.....

1.8 - Brees

2.3 - Manning (couldn't believe he was still here)

3.8 - Fitzgerald (wasn't planning on this one, but couldn't pass it up in round 3)

4.3 - Ryan Grant

5.8 - Jahvid Best

6.3 - Beenie Wells

7.8 - Hines Ward

8.3 - Hakeem Nicks

What do you think?

 
Goooals said:
Just finished my draft. Not finishing well the last couple of years, I decided to mix it up a bit as I mentioned when I started the thread.10 Team, non-pprHere are my first few picks.....1.8 - Brees2.3 - Manning (couldn't believe he was still here)3.8 - Fitzgerald (wasn't planning on this one, but couldn't pass it up in round 3)4.3 - Ryan Grant5.8 - Jahvid Best6.3 - Beenie Wells7.8 - Hines Ward8.3 - Hakeem NicksWhat do you think?
Looks pretty solid. Brees and Manning should keep you in almost any game all year. If one's off, the other shouldn't be. Grant and Best should be a solid duo. Nothing fancy but should produce good numbers. WR needs some help. Ward and Nicks arent bad but both are about a WR3 maybe pushing WR2 if Nicks pans out.
 
Goooals said:
Just finished my draft. Not finishing well the last couple of years, I decided to mix it up a bit as I mentioned when I started the thread.10 Team, non-pprHere are my first few picks.....1.8 - Brees2.3 - Manning (couldn't believe he was still here)3.8 - Fitzgerald (wasn't planning on this one, but couldn't pass it up in round 3)4.3 - Ryan Grant5.8 - Jahvid Best6.3 - Beenie Wells7.8 - Hines Ward8.3 - Hakeem NicksWhat do you think?
pretty good. rb and wr are fairly week. you dont need manning and brees.
 
Goooals said:
Just finished my draft. Not finishing well the last couple of years, I decided to mix it up a bit as I mentioned when I started the thread.10 Team, non-pprHere are my first few picks.....1.8 - Brees2.3 - Manning (couldn't believe he was still here)3.8 - Fitzgerald (wasn't planning on this one, but couldn't pass it up in round 3)4.3 - Ryan Grant5.8 - Jahvid Best6.3 - Beenie Wells7.8 - Hines Ward8.3 - Hakeem NicksWhat do you think?
pretty good. rb and wr are fairly week. you dont need manning and brees.
2QB league, why not? It'd be like Getting AP and M. Turner. Why not try to do that?
 
Goooals said:
Just finished my draft. Not finishing well the last couple of years, I decided to mix it up a bit as I mentioned when I started the thread.10 Team, non-pprHere are my first few picks.....1.8 - Brees2.3 - Manning (couldn't believe he was still here)3.8 - Fitzgerald (wasn't planning on this one, but couldn't pass it up in round 3)4.3 - Ryan Grant5.8 - Jahvid Best6.3 - Beenie Wells7.8 - Hines Ward8.3 - Hakeem NicksWhat do you think?
pretty good. rb and wr are fairly week. you dont need manning and brees.
2QB league, why not? It'd be like Getting AP and M. Turner. Why not try to do that?
i just explained why not. look at the rest of his team. it is mediocre at best, unless all of those guys triple their average year production.
 
Goooals said:
Just finished my draft. Not finishing well the last couple of years, I decided to mix it up a bit as I mentioned when I started the thread.10 Team, non-pprHere are my first few picks.....1.8 - Brees2.3 - Manning (couldn't believe he was still here)3.8 - Fitzgerald (wasn't planning on this one, but couldn't pass it up in round 3)4.3 - Ryan Grant5.8 - Jahvid Best6.3 - Beenie Wells7.8 - Hines Ward8.3 - Hakeem NicksWhat do you think?
pretty good. rb and wr are fairly week. you dont need manning and brees.
2QB league, why not? It'd be like Getting AP and M. Turner. Why not try to do that?
i just explained why not. look at the rest of his team. it is mediocre at best, unless all of those guys triple their average year production.
The guy has 2 studs at a key position in his league. He took some gambles that could pay off (Best and Nicks) to make up for it. Same as if he took 2 stud WR's or 2 Stud RB's high and gambled on Cutler and Stafford. His team looks pretty decent for a 2QB setup. Especially 6pt TD passes.
 
Funny to see the arguments. Looking back at the last five years, two of the winners had two QB's in the top 5 and one in the top 7. With the 8th pick, and all top 6 RB's off the board, I feel I had no choice.

Rembemer guys, a good drafter also doesn't let players slip to someone it shouldn't have. Letting Manning go to the Gore or Rice owner doesn't help me or the other teams out as well.

Keep the posts coming or reply with your own 2QB draft results.

 
Funny to see the arguments. Looking back at the last five years, two of the winners had two QB's in the top 5 and one in the top 7. With the 8th pick, and all top 6 RB's off the board, I feel I had no choice. Rembemer guys, a good drafter also doesn't let players slip to someone it shouldn't have. Letting Manning go to the Gore or Rice owner doesn't help me or the other teams out as well. Keep the posts coming or reply with your own 2QB draft results.
I'm wasn't just being argumentative above. I have played in a competitive 2 QB league for about 6 years. Of course, I tihnk having Brees and Manning is great. However, most of our winners have nevers had the top flight QB's. The guy with with Manning is perenially in last place, the guy with brees is a middle packer and the brady dude is a homer. I've won the league with Ben ROeth when he broke out for 25+. I got him in the 9th round that year. I partnered him with Hasselbeck, whoI goit in the 5th. Last year, the manager had warner who he got later than the big 5 or so and put him wiht orton. they year before, favre and some othre scrub.
 
Funny to see the arguments. Looking back at the last five years, two of the winners had two QB's in the top 5 and one in the top 7. With the 8th pick, and all top 6 RB's off the board, I feel I had no choice. Rembemer guys, a good drafter also doesn't let players slip to someone it shouldn't have. Letting Manning go to the Gore or Rice owner doesn't help me or the other teams out as well. Keep the posts coming or reply with your own 2QB draft results.
I have one in 5 hrs. Ill post the results tonight.
 
Funny to see the arguments. Looking back at the last five years, two of the winners had two QB's in the top 5 and one in the top 7. With the 8th pick, and all top 6 RB's off the board, I feel I had no choice. Rembemer guys, a good drafter also doesn't let players slip to someone it shouldn't have. Letting Manning go to the Gore or Rice owner doesn't help me or the other teams out as well. Keep the posts coming or reply with your own 2QB draft results.
I'm wasn't just being argumentative above. I have played in a competitive 2 QB league for about 6 years. Of course, I tihnk having Brees and Manning is great. However, most of our winners have nevers had the top flight QB's. The guy with with Manning is perenially in last place, the guy with brees is a middle packer and the brady dude is a homer. I've won the league with Ben ROeth when he broke out for 25+. I got him in the 9th round that year. I partnered him with Hasselbeck, whoI goit in the 5th. Last year, the manager had warner who he got later than the big 5 or so and put him wiht orton. they year before, favre and some othre scrub.
Thats because the guess on the breakout QB pairing in the later rounds failed to make the top 10. The guys last year in the championship for my league had Rodgers and Favre (Runner Up) and Brees and Eli (Champion). Obviously not drafted in the early rounds but if you can take 2 sure things, why not do it?
 
My draft was last night. QB picks are in bold.

League basics: 10 teams. PPR league with 4 points per passing TD (6 points otherwise). 2 QBs, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), etc. The additional flex position is worth noting.

Some observations. Although we've done a 2QB league for years, people were surprised with the run on QBs in the late 1st/early 2nd. People panicked and some probably abandoned their draft strategy. The run on QBs caused Deangelo and Ryan Grant to fall to the guy who already had Chris Johnson. He is starting Matt Ryan and David Garrard.

Two teams took QBs with their first two picks. I took Rodgers and Romo. Another guy took Brees and Manning. I believe the team that waited the longest is starting Stafford and Orton.

If you are picking early (1-5), I'd start researching your sleeper QBs. If you try to take a QB early (2nd/3rd round), you'll probably end up reaching to get the scraps of what is left. Instead, you can get some great value at WR/RB and target some QBs a little later.

As I said, I took Rodgers at 1.7 and then Romo in the 2nd. Looking back, I would have passed on Romo had I known Rivers would have been there in the 3rd. But that definitely wasn't a guarantee, and I'm glad I went QB-QB.

1. Chris Johnson

2. Adrian Peterson

3. Maurice Jones-Drew

4. Ray Rice

5. Andre Johnson

6. Frank Gore

7. Aaron Rodgers

8. Michael Turner

9. Drew Brees

10. Steven Jackson

Round 2

1. Randy Moss

2. Peyton Manning

3. Tom Brady

4. Tony Romo

5. Reggie Wayne

6. Ryan Mathews

7. Matt Schaub

8. Shonn Greene

9. Rashard Mendenhall

10. DeAngelo Williams

Round 3

1. Ryan Grant

2. Calvin Johnson

3. Brandon Marshall

4. Eli Manning

5. Roddy White

6. Larry Fitzgerald

7. Miles Austin

8. Philip Rivers

9. Jamaal Charles

10. Greg Jennings

Round 4

1. Dallas Clark

2. Beanie Wells

3. DeSean Jackson

4. Steve Smith

5. Jahvid Best

6. Pierre Thomas

7. Jonathan Stewart

8. Cedric Benson

9. LeSean McCoy

10. Marques Colston

Round 5

1. Anquan Boldin

2. Steve Smith

3. Antonio Gates

4. Dwayne Bowe

5. Chad Ochocinco

6. Joe Flacco

7. Wes Welker

8. Matt Forte

9. Hines Ward

10. Ronnie Brown

Round 6

1. Kevin Kolb

2. Joseph Addai

3. Michael Crabtree

4. Arian Foster

5. Mike Sims-Walker

6. Brett Favre

7. Marion Barber

8. Hakeem Nicks

9. Vernon Davis

10. Percy Harvin

Round 7

1. Matt Ryan

2. Jeremy Maclin

3. Pierre Garcon

4. Jermichael Finley

5. Tony Gonzalez

6. Felix Jones

7. Ahmad Bradshaw

8. Knowshon Moreno

9. Malcom Floyd

10. Jay Cutler

Round 8

1. Jason Witten

2. Brent Celek

3. Santana Moss

4. C.J. Spiller

5. Chad Henne

6. Johnny Knox

7. T.J. Houshmandzadeh

8. Matthew Stafford

9. Donovan McNabb

10. Ben Roethlisberger

Round 9

1. Donald Driver

2. Carson Palmer

3. San Francisco

4. Robert Meachem

5. Alex Smith

6. Justin Forsett

7. Vince Young

8. Devin Aromashodu

9. Jerome Harrison

10. Brandon Jacobs

Round 10

1. Derrick Mason

2. Mario Manningham

3. Clinton Portis

4. Terrell Owens

5. Ricky Williams

6. New York

7. Dez Bryant

8. Kyle Orton

9. Minnesota

10. David Garrard

Round 11

1. Mike Wallace

2. Stephen Gostkowski

3. Garrett Hartley

4. Austin Collie

5. Nate Kaeding

6. Bernard Berrian

7. Reggie Bush

8. Jabar Gaffney

9. Braylon Edwards

10. Vincent Jackson

Round 12

1. Jason Campbell

2. Davone Bess

3. LaDainian Tomlinson

4. Laurence Maroney

5. Donald Brown

6. Michael Bush

7. Eddie Royal

8. Thomas Jones

9. Fred Jackson

10. Carnell Williams

Round 13

1. Heath Miller

2. Kellen Winslow

3. Montario Hardesty

4. Willis McGahee

5. Devin Hester

6. Mark Sanchez

7. Lance Moore

8. Philadelphia

9. Matt Moore

10. Darren McFadden

Round 14

1. Santonio Holmes

2. Dexter McCluster

3. Green Bay

4. Tim Hightower

5. Dallas

6. Steve Slaton

7. New York

8. John Carlson

9. Chester Taylor

10. Nate Washington

Round 15

1. Pittsburgh

2. Lee Evans

3. Kenny Britt

4. Darren Sproles

5. Owen Daniels

6. Zach Miller

7. Chicago

8. Chris Cooley

9. Baltimore

10. Matt Cassel

Round 16

1. Bernard Scott

2. Mason Crosby

3. Rob Bironas

4. Ryan Longwell

5. David Akers

6. New Orleans

7. Jacoby Jones

8. Josh Johnson

9. Lawrence Tynes

10. Steve Breaston

Round 17

1. Robbie Gould

2. Miami

3. Rian Lindell

4. Josh Scobee

5. Byron Leftwich

6. Laurent Robinson

7. Tony Scheffler

8. Julian Edelman

9. Brian Westbrook

10. Cincinnati

 
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Very helpful, indestructable. I know I can't put all the stock in one draft result but it gives me an idea of what to expect.

 
Here we go.

Insein Asylum

1. (4) Adrian Peterson

2. (17) Randy Moss

3. (24) Calvin Johnson

4. (37) Cedric Benson

5. (44) Carson Palmer

6. (57) Matthew Stafford

7. (64) Joseph Addai

8. (77) Ahmad Bradshaw

9. (84) Malcom Floyd

10. (97) Chad Henne

11. (104) Visanthe Shiancoe

12. (117) Donald Brown

13. (124) Santonio Holmes

14. (137) Brandon Jacobs

15. (144) Jason Campbell

16. (157) Chester Taylor

17. (164) San Diego

18. (177) Kris Brown

 
Crazy first round. I knew those 7 QBs would go in the first 2 rounds but not 6 in the 1st.

Round 1

1. Chris Johnson Cheeseburger...

2. Aaron Rodgers The Commish

3. Ray Rice William Shak...

4. Adrian Peterson Insein Asylum

5. Maurice Jones-Drew The Gold Sta...

6. Drew Brees McNabb Be Gone

7. Peyton Manning Finkle For M...

8. Tom Brady The Secane S...

9. Matt Schaub Bill Brasky'...

10. Tony Romo Chubb-o-Licious

Round 2

1. Shonn Greene Chubb-o-Licious

2. Frank Gore Bill Brasky'...

3. Andre Johnson The Secane S...

4. Michael Turner Finkle For M...

5. Rashard Mendenhall McNabb Be Gone

6. Philip Rivers The Gold Sta...

7. Randy Moss Insein Asylum

8. Reggie Wayne William Shak...

9. Ryan Mathews The Commish

10. Steven Jackson Cheeseburger...

Round 3

1. Roddy White Cheeseburger...

2. Joe Flacco The Commish

3. Brandon Marshall William Shak...

4. Calvin Johnson Insein Asylum

5. Miles Austin The Gold Sta...

6. DeAngelo Williams McNabb Be Gone

7. Jay Cutler Finkle For M...

8. Ryan Grant The Secane S...

9. Pierre Thomas Bill Brasky'...

10. Larry Fitzgerald Chubb-o-Licious

Round 4

1. Dallas Clark Chubb-o-Licious

2. Brett Favre Bill Brasky'...

3. Kevin Kolb The Secane S...

4. Jamaal Charles Finkle For M...

5. DeSean Jackson McNabb Be Gone

6. Jahvid Best The Gold Sta...

7. Cedric Benson Insein Asylum

8. Matt Ryan William Shak...

9. Greg Jennings The Commish

10. Steve Smith Cheeseburger...

Round 5

1. Beanie Wells Cheeseburger...

2. LeSean McCoy The Commish

3. Marques Colston William Shak...

4. Carson Palmer Insein Asylum

5. Eli Manning The Gold Sta...

6. Arian Foster McNabb Be Gone

7. Dwayne Bowe Finkle For M...

8. Knowshon Moreno The Secane S...

9. Anquan Boldin Bill Brasky'...

10. Alex Smith Chubb-o-Licious

Round 6

1. Wes Welker Chubb-o-Licious

2. Steve Smith Bill Brasky'...

3. Michael Crabtree The Secane S...

4. C.J. Spiller Finkle For M...

5. Antonio Gates McNabb Be Gone

6. Chad Ochocinco The Gold Sta...

7. Matthew Stafford Insein Asylum

8. Jonathan Stewart William Shak...

9. Michael Bush The Commish

10. Ronnie Brown Cheeseburger...

Round 7

1. Percy Harvin Cheeseburger...

2. Jermichael Finley The Commish

3. Ben Roethlisberger William Shak...

4. Joseph Addai Insein Asylum

5. Matt Forte The Gold Sta...

6. Pierre Garcon McNabb Be Gone

7. Darren Sproles Finkle For M...

8. Jeremy Maclin The Secane S...

9. Hines Ward Bill Brasky'...

10. Marion Barber Chubb-o-Licious

Round 8

1. Donald Driver Chubb-o-Licious

2. Ricky Williams Bill Brasky'...

3. Vernon Davis The Secane S...

4. Hakeem Nicks Finkle For M...

5. Robert Meachem McNabb Be Gone

6. Mike Wallace The Gold Sta...

7. Ahmad Bradshaw Insein Asylum

8. Brent Celek William Shak...

9. Johnny Knox The Commish

10. Donovan McNabb Cheeseburger...

Round 9

1. Joshua Cribbs Cheeseburger...

2. Mike Sims-Walker The Commish

3. Jerome Harrison William Shak...

4. Malcom Floyd Insein Asylum

5. Jason Witten The Gold Sta...

6. Bernard Berrian McNabb Be Gone

7. Tony Gonzalez Finkle For M...

8. Justin Forsett The Secane S...

9. Kellen Winslow Bill Brasky'...

10. Vincent Jackson Chubb-o-Licious

Round 10

1. Pittsburgh Chubb-o-Licious

2. Santana Moss Bill Brasky'...

3. Terrell Owens The Secane S...

4. Kenny Britt Finkle For M...

5. LaDainian Tomlinson McNabb Be Gone

6. Clinton Portis The Gold Sta...

7. Chad Henne Insein Asylum

8. Derrick Mason William Shak...

9. Felix Jones The Commish

10. Kyle Orton Cheeseburger...

Round 11

1. Zach Miller Cheeseburger...

2. Vince Young The Commish

3. Mark Sanchez William Shak...

4. Visanthe Shiancoe Insein Asylum

5. Matt Cassel The Gold Sta...

6. David Garrard McNabb Be Gone

7. Jacoby Jones Finkle For M...

8. Darren McFadden The Secane S...

9. Matt Moore Bill Brasky'...

10. Matt Hasselbeck Chubb-o-Licious

Round 12

1. Laurence Maroney Chubb-o-Licious

2. Thomas Jones Bill Brasky'...

3. Montario Hardesty The Secane S...

4. Dez Bryant Finkle For M...

5. Laurent Robinson McNabb Be Gone

6. Eddie Royal The Gold Sta...

7. Donald Brown Insein Asylum

8. Steve Slaton William Shak...

9. Devin Aromashodu The Commish

10. Derek Anderson Cheeseburger...

Round 13

1. New York Cheeseburger...

2. Minnesota The Commish

3. San Francisco William Shak...

4. Santonio Holmes Insein Asylum

5. Reggie Bush The Gold Sta...

6. Josh Freeman McNabb Be Gone

7. Carnell Williams Finkle For M...

8. Philadelphia The Secane S...

9. Green Bay Bill Brasky'...

10. Sidney Rice Chubb-o-Licious

Round 14

1. Braylon Edwards Chubb-o-Licious

2. Steve Breaston Bill Brasky'...

3. Mohamed Massaquoi The Secane S...

4. Dexter McCluster Finkle For M...

5. Baltimore McNabb Be Gone

6. T.J. Houshmandzadeh The Gold Sta...

7. Brandon Jacobs Insein Asylum

8. Austin Collie William Shak...

9. Owen Daniels The Commish

10. Danny Amendola Cheeseburger...

Round 15

1. Fred Jackson Cheeseburger...

2. Lee Evans The Commish

3. Kevin Walter William Shak...

4. Jason Campbell Insein Asylum

5. Chris Cooley The Gold Sta...

6. Heath Miller McNabb Be Gone

7. Bernard Scott Finkle For M...

8. Mike Williams The Secane S...

9. John Carlson Bill Brasky'...

10. Todd Heap Chubb-o-Licious

Round 16

1. Correll Buckhalter Chubb-o-Licious

2. Willis McGahee Bill Brasky'...

3. Jermaine Gresham The Secane S...

4. Jake Delhomme Finkle For M...

5. Tim Hightower McNabb Be Gone

6. Cincinnati The Gold Sta...

7. Chester Taylor Insein Asylum

8. Mike Bell William Shak...

9. New York The Commish

10. Garrett Hartley Cheeseburger...

Round 17

1. Miami Cheeseburger...

2. Stephen Gostkowski The Commish

3. Nate Kaeding William Shak...

4. San Diego Insein Asylum

5. Chicago The Gold Sta...

6. New Orleans McNabb Be Gone

7. Arizona Finkle For M...

8. Mason Crosby The Secane S...

9. Ryan Longwell Bill Brasky'...

10. Rob Bironas Chubb-o-Licious

Round 18

1. Devin Hester Chubb-o-Licious

2. Dallas Bill Brasky'...

3. Sam Bradford The Secane S...

4. David Akers Finkle For M...

5. Robbie Gould McNabb Be Gone

6. Matt Prater The Gold Sta...

7. Kris Brown Insein Asylum

8. New England William Shak...

9. Toby Gerhart The Commish

10. Javon Ringer Cheeseburger...

 
My draft was last night. QB picks are in bold.

League basics: 10 teams. PPR league with 4 points per passing TD (6 points otherwise). 2 QBs, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), etc. The additional flex position is worth noting.

Some observations. Although we've done a 2QB league for years, people were surprised with the run on QBs in the late 1st/early 2nd. People panicked and some probably abandoned their draft strategy. The run on QBs caused Deangelo and Ryan Grant to fall to the guy who already had Chris Johnson. He is starting Matt Ryan and David Garrard.

Two teams took QBs with their first two picks. I took Rodgers and Romo. Another guy took Brees and Manning. I believe the team that waited the longest is starting Stafford and Orton.

If you are picking early (1-5), I'd start researching your sleeper QBs. If you try to take a QB early (2nd/3rd round), you'll probably end up reaching to get the scraps of what is left. Instead, you can get some great value at WR/RB and target some QBs a little later.

As I said, I took Rodgers at 1.7 and then Romo in the 2nd. Looking back, I would have passed on Romo had I known Rivers would have been there in the 3rd. But that definitely wasn't a guarantee, and I'm glad I went QB-QB.

1. Chris Johnson

2. Adrian Peterson

3. Maurice Jones-Drew

4. Ray Rice

5. Andre Johnson

6. Frank Gore

7. Aaron Rodgers

8. Michael Turner

9. Drew Brees

10. Steven Jackson

Round 2

1. Randy Moss

2. Peyton Manning

3. Tom Brady

4. Tony Romo

5. Reggie Wayne

6. Ryan Mathews

7. Matt Schaub

8. Shonn Greene

9. Rashard Mendenhall

10. DeAngelo Williams

Round 3

1. Ryan Grant

2. Calvin Johnson

3. Brandon Marshall

4. Eli Manning

5. Roddy White

6. Larry Fitzgerald

7. Miles Austin

8. Philip Rivers

9. Jamaal Charles

10. Greg Jennings

Round 4

1. Dallas Clark

2. Beanie Wells

3. DeSean Jackson

4. Steve Smith

5. Jahvid Best

6. Pierre Thomas

7. Jonathan Stewart

8. Cedric Benson

9. LeSean McCoy

10. Marques Colston

Round 5

1. Anquan Boldin

2. Steve Smith

3. Antonio Gates

4. Dwayne Bowe

5. Chad Ochocinco

6. Joe Flacco

7. Wes Welker

8. Matt Forte

9. Hines Ward

10. Ronnie Brown

Round 6

1. Kevin Kolb

2. Joseph Addai

3. Michael Crabtree

4. Arian Foster

5. Mike Sims-Walker

6. Brett Favre

7. Marion Barber

8. Hakeem Nicks

9. Vernon Davis

10. Percy Harvin

Round 7

1. Matt Ryan

2. Jeremy Maclin

3. Pierre Garcon

4. Jermichael Finley

5. Tony Gonzalez

6. Felix Jones

7. Ahmad Bradshaw

8. Knowshon Moreno

9. Malcom Floyd

10. Jay Cutler

Round 8

1. Jason Witten

2. Brent Celek

3. Santana Moss

4. C.J. Spiller

5. Chad Henne

6. Johnny Knox

7. T.J. Houshmandzadeh

8. Matthew Stafford

9. Donovan McNabb

10. Ben Roethlisberger

Round 9

1. Donald Driver

2. Carson Palmer

3. San Francisco

4. Robert Meachem

5. Alex Smith

6. Justin Forsett

7. Vince Young

8. Devin Aromashodu

9. Jerome Harrison

10. Brandon Jacobs

Round 10

1. Derrick Mason

2. Mario Manningham

3. Clinton Portis

4. Terrell Owens

5. Ricky Williams

6. New York

7. Dez Bryant

8. Kyle Orton

9. Minnesota

10. David Garrard

Round 11

1. Mike Wallace

2. Stephen Gostkowski

3. Garrett Hartley

4. Austin Collie

5. Nate Kaeding

6. Bernard Berrian

7. Reggie Bush

8. Jabar Gaffney

9. Braylon Edwards

10. Vincent Jackson

Round 12

1. Jason Campbell

2. Davone Bess

3. LaDainian Tomlinson

4. Laurence Maroney

5. Donald Brown

6. Michael Bush

7. Eddie Royal

8. Thomas Jones

9. Fred Jackson

10. Carnell Williams

Round 13

1. Heath Miller

2. Kellen Winslow

3. Montario Hardesty

4. Willis McGahee

5. Devin Hester

6. Mark Sanchez

7. Lance Moore

8. Philadelphia

9. Matt Moore

10. Darren McFadden

Round 14

1. Santonio Holmes

2. Dexter McCluster

3. Green Bay

4. Tim Hightower

5. Dallas

6. Steve Slaton

7. New York

8. John Carlson

9. Chester Taylor

10. Nate Washington

Round 15

1. Pittsburgh

2. Lee Evans

3. Kenny Britt

4. Darren Sproles

5. Owen Daniels

6. Zach Miller

7. Chicago

8. Chris Cooley

9. Baltimore

10. Matt Cassel

Round 16

1. Bernard Scott

2. Mason Crosby

3. Rob Bironas

4. Ryan Longwell

5. David Akers

6. New Orleans

7. Jacoby Jones

8. Josh Johnson

9. Lawrence Tynes

10. Steve Breaston

Round 17

1. Robbie Gould

2. Miami

3. Rian Lindell

4. Josh Scobee

5. Byron Leftwich

6. Laurent Robinson

7. Tony Scheffler

8. Julian Edelman

9. Brian Westbrook

10. Cincinnati
Very similar to what I believe my draft will look like. Positions #1,2 and 3 did not draft a QB until the 7th/8th.

#4's 2 QB's in 3 rounds looks a little week.

#7's 2 QB's in first 2 (I agree, hard call here, but nothing too bad the rest of the draft.

#9's 2 QB's in first 2, solid with the RB's that followed.

I draft #7, and I probably will need to go QB in the 1st, but I'm hoping a solid RB falls to me in the 2nd. But if there are reaches in the 2nd at RB and if A. Johnson, Moss, Manning our Brady are there, it will be a very tough decision!!! But a good one to have. Like most of my drafts, Rounds 5, 6 and 7 there are not a lot of RB's taken, so there are still starters on the board. I sweep them up fast!

 

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