Start 2 QB Draft Help (1 Viewer)

[Goooals]

you really felt the need to quote that entire post?

Now that is funny!

 

[imurph22]

Just had our draft last Sunday in a 10 man - 2 QB league. We also start 2RB/3WR/ 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)/1TE/1K/2 DEF

18 QB's went in the first 7 rounds. I took 3 in my first 8 picks. I expect either Kolb or Stafford to put up very nice

fantasy numbers this season and maybe both will. In either case I have both to start as my QB2 behind Romo who

probably has the most weapons he's ever had and a very favorable passing schedule.

Here are the first 7 rounds of our draft (my picks in bold):

1.1 Chris Johnson

1.2 Adrian Peterson

1.3 Ray Rice

1.4 Aaron Rodgers

1.5 Maurice Jones-Drew

1.6 Drew Brees

1.7 Stephen Jackson

1.8 Frank Gore

1.9 Peyton Manning

1.10 Tom Brady

2.1 Andre Johnson

2.2 Michael Turner

2.3 Philip Rivers

2.4 Deangelo Williams

2.5 Ryan Grant

2.6 Tony Romo

2.7 Cedric Benson

2.8 Matt Forte

2.9 Matt Schaub

2.10 Matt Ryan

3.1 Joe Flacco

3.2 Larry Fitzgerald

3.3 Jay Cutler

3.4 Pierre Thomas

3.5 Calvin Johnson

3.6 Randy Moss

3.7 Reggie Wayne

3.8 Brandon Marshall

3.9 Shonn Greene

3.10 Miles Austin

4.1 Knowshon Moreno

4.2 Carson Palmer

4.3 Ryan Matthews

4.4 Brett Favre

4.5 Roddy White

4.6 Rashard Mendenhall

4.7 Marques Colston

4.8 Greg Jennings

4.9 Desean Jackson

4.10 Jamal Charles

5.1 C. J. Spiller

5.2 LeSean McCoy

5.3 Donovan McNabb

5.4 Antonio Gates

5.5 Kevin Kolb

5.6 Steve Smith NYG

5.7 Anquan Boldin

5.8 Dallas Clark

5.9 Chad Ochocinco

5.10 Jonathan Stewart

6.1 Brent Celek

6.2 Arian Foster

6.3 Percy Harvin

6.4 Jermichael Finley

6.5 Joseph Addai

6.6 Steve Smith CAR

6.7 Vince Young

6.8 Jason Witten

6.9 Eli Manning

6.10 Michael Crabtree

7.1 Johnny Knox

7.2 Vernon Davis

7.3 Dwayne Bowe

7.4 Pierre Garcon

7.5 Jahvid Best

7.6 Tony Gonzalez

7.7 Chad Henne

7.8 Mark Sanchez

7.9 Donald Driver

7.10 Ronnie Brown

My complete team (showing which pick at that position they were):

QB6 Tony Romo (Rd 2)

QB14 Kevin Kolb (Rd 5)

QB20 Matthew Stafford (Rd 8)

RB4 Maurice Jones-Drew (Rd 1)

RB16 Rashard Mendenhall (Rd 4)

RB23 Jahvid Best (Rd 7)

RB29 Reggie Bush (Rd 9)

RB38 Ricky Williams (Rd 12)

RB40 Michael Bush (Rd 13)

RB51 Bernard Scott (Rd 19)

WR3 Calvin Johnson (Rd 3)

WR16 Steve Smith CAR (Rd 6)

WR29 Hakeem Nicks (Rd 10)

WR45 Devin Hester (Rd 14)

WR48 Vincent Jackson (Rd 15)

WR54 Jacoby Jones (Rd 17)

WR58 Jabar Gaffney (Rd 18)

TE14 Heath Miller (Rd 16)

K10 Neil Rackers (Rd 21)

D/ST7 Steelers (Rd 11)

D/ST7 Panthers (Rd 20)

I feel really good about my team. My only weak postion is TE but Heath Miller is still solid, just not sexy.

Also I'm debating keeping a roster spot for Vincent Jackson. If he's not traded or shows up soon, I might

have to cut him to free up a roster spot to swap in guys during bye-weeks. I also have so much solid depth

that I should have some great trading chips to play with throughout the season. Let me know what you think

of my team and draft strategy.

I actually traded out of the 3 spot originall to drop back to 5 as I was wrestling between Ray Rice and Maurice Jones Drew.

I also got good word that the guy picking at 4 was almost certainly going to go with either Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers.

Knowing that, by dropping back to 5 I was pretty much assured to get either Rice or MJD which I was great with either and

also moved up a few spots in the 2nd in order to land a top 7 QB as I was worried about all 7 going in the first 17 picks.

They lasted 19 picks, but by being at 16 in round 2 I was able to land Romo who was the 4th QB on my board. I also think

that being a few picks earlier in the 4th enabled me to somehow land Rashard Mendenhall as both he and Ryan Matthews

slid into the 4th. I also think I got steals of Jahvid Best in the 7th, Reggie Bush in the 9th, Hakeem Nicks in the 10th,

Ricky Williams in the 12th, Michael Bush in the 13th and Jacoby Jones in the 17th. I like mixing most of my picks with

getting great value at each pick with a lot of potential upside mixed in. I rarely will reach for a player as so many values

slide right to me when I wait.

Best of luck to everyone in your 2QB leagues. It certainly adds much more strategy to the entire draft as you can see

how evenly the picks are in the first 4 rounds between QB/RB/WR.

 

[Insein]

I would say this is more indicative of how it will go in my other league.

 

[butcher boy]

Crazy seeing drafts like this. In my 2 QB league people go nuts for QB in the first 2 rounds. Around 80% of all picks in the first 2 rounds are QBs.

And to top it off, the 2 QB thing isnt even a requirement, Qb was simply added as an eligible flex position.

 

[brainee]

I just found out that the league that I'm drafting in this weekend has been bumped to a 2-QB starter It makes sense though - normally we've had 10-12 teams, but it looks like we'll only have 8 this time. Not just QBs, but lots of starters everywhere. We start: 2 QB, 3 RB, 4 WR, TE, K, DEF, and 6 IDPs (2 DB, 2 DL, and 2 D flex). The scoring is kind of strange too ... seems to heavily favor QBs (all TDs = 6 pts, 25 yds = 1 pt passing, 20 yds = 1 pt receiving, 15 yds = 1 pt rushing, 0.5 PPR, turnover = -2 pts). See how that works out? Not only are QBs on the same level as the other positions for TDs, they're not that far before for yardage!

What do you think my approach should be? Crunching VBDs with these settings in Draft Dominator, 5 QBs rank in the top 10 (with Schaub close behind at #13). Not just that, but after CJ the next 3 spots are all QBs (Rodgers, Brees, Peyton). Getting one of the top 6 QBs seems essential here. I don't think I could pass at CJ if I got #1 ... but after that it's tough. And I'm not sure if the other managers are thinking about the strategic implications as much as I am. If they go by typical ADPs I could make a killing. I'm kind of hoping for a late 1st round pick this time - giving me enough picks to gauge how the other managers are acting, and react accordingly.

 

[Insein]

My other 2QB League.

Draft Results Round 1 Pick Player1 Johnson, Chris RB TEN2 Rodgers, Aaron QB GB3 Peterson, Adrian RB MIN4 Brees, Drew QB NO5 Manning, Peyton QB IND6 Schaub, Matt QB HOU7 Brady, Tom QB NE8 Jones-Drew, Maurice RB JAC9 Johnson, Andre WR HOU10 Romo, Tony QB DALRound 2 Pick Player1 Turner, Michael RB ATL2 Rice, Ray RB BAL3 Gore, Frank RB SF4 Mendenhall, Rashard RB PIT5 Greene, Shonn RB NYJ6 Mathews, Ryan RB SD7 Wayne, Reggie WR IND8 Moss, Randy WR NE9 Johnson, Calvin WR DET10 White, Roddy WR ATLRound 3 Pick Player1 Rivers, Philip QB SD2 Jackson, Steven RB STL3 Benson, Cedric RB CIN4 Grant, Ryan RB GB5 Favre, Brett QB MIN6 Jennings, Greg WR GB7 Thomas, Pierre RB NO8 Austin, Miles WR DAL9 Williams, DeAngelo RB CAR10 Jackson, DeSean WR PHIRound 4 Pick Player1 Charles, Jamaal RB KC2 Fitzgerald, Larry WR ARI3 Kolb, Kevin QB PHI4 Jones, Felix RB DAL5 Marshall, Brandon WR MIA6 Wells, Beanie RB ARI7 Boldin, Anquan WR BAL8 Foster, Arian RB HOU9 Colston, Marques WR NO10 Best, Jahvid RB DETRound 5 Pick Player1 Flacco, Joe QB BAL2 Moreno, Knowshon RB DEN3 Palmer, Carson QB CIN4 McCoy, LeSean RB PHI5 Ochocinco, Chad WR CIN6 Stewart, Jonathan RB CAR7 Welker, Wes WR NE8 Smith, Steve WR CAR9 Manning, Eli QB NYG10 Stafford, Matthew QB DETRound 6 Pick Player1 Ward, Hines WR PIT2 Addai, Joseph RB IND3 Ryan, Matt QB ATL4 Gates, Antonio TE SD5 Garcon, Pierre WR IND6 Clark, Dallas TE IND7 Smith, Steve WR NYG8 Crabtree, Michael WR SF9 Brown, Ronnie RB MIA10 Sims-Walker, Mike WR JACRound 7 Pick Player1 Bowe, Dwayne WR KC2 Roethlisberger, Ben QB PIT3 Cutler, Jay QB CHI4 Smith, Alex QB SF5 Nicks, Hakeem WR NYG6 Wallace, Mike WR PIT7 Sanchez, Mark QB NYJ8 Henne, Chad QB MIA9 Finley, Jermichael TE GB10 McFadden, Darren RB OAKRound 8 Pick Player1 Mason, Derrick WR BAL2 Knox, Johnny WR CHI3 Forte, Matt RB CHI4 Owens, Terrell WR CIN5 McNabb, Donovan QB WAS6 Young, Vince QB TEN7 Harvin, Percy WR MIN8 Bradshaw, Ahmad RB NYG9 Celek, Brent TE PHI10 Davis, Vernon TE SFRound 9 Pick Player1 Portis, Clinton RB WAS2 Orton, Kyle QB DEN3 Cassel, Matt QB KC4 Williams, Cadillac RB TB5 Floyd, Malcom WR SD6 Harrison, Jerome RB CLE7 Holmes, Santonio WR NYJ8 Maclin, Jeremy WR PHI9 Garrard, David QB JAC10 Anderson, Derek QB ARIRound 10 Pick Player1 Royal, Eddie WR DEN2 Barber, Marion RB DAL3 Jacobs, Brandon RB NYG4 Jets DST5 Gonzalez, Tony TE ATL6 Spiller, C.J. RB BUF7 Shiancoe, Visanthe TE MIN8 Driver, Donald WR GB9 Tomlinson, LaDainian RB NYJ10 Freeman, Josh QB TBRound 11 Pick Player1 Hightower, Tim RB ARI2 Berrian, Bernard WR MIN3 Bush, Reggie RB NO4 Williams, Ricky RB MIA5 Jones, Thomas RB KC6 Moss, Santana WR WAS7 Hartley, Garrett K NO8 Witten, Jason TE DAL9 Hasselbeck, Matt QB SEA10 Daniels, Owen TE HOURound 12 Pick Player1 Snelling, Jason RB ATL2 Brown, Donald RB IND3 Meachem, Robert WR NO4 Rice, Sidney WR MIN5 Campbell, Jason QB OAK6 Houshmandzadeh, T.J. WR SEA7 Delhomme, Jake QB CLE8 Forsett, Justin RB SEA9 Jones, Jacoby WR HOU10 Gaffney, Jabar WR DENRound 13 Pick Player1 Williams, Mike WR TB2 Aromashodu, Devin WR CHI3 Bradford, Sam QB STL4 Breaston, Steve WR ARI5 Chambers, Chris WR KC6 Bryant, Dez WR DAL7 Moore, Matt QB CAR8 Burleson, Nate WR DET9 Edwards, Trent QB BUF10 Cotchery, Jerricho WR NYJRound 14 Pick Player1 Maroney, Laurence RB NE2 Murphy, Louis WR OAK3 Jackson, Fred RB BUF4 Taylor, Fred RB NE5 Massaquoi, Mohamed WR CLE6 Edwards, Braylon WR NYJ7 Sproles, Darren RB SD8 Miller, Zach TE OAK9 Bush, Michael RB OAK10 McCluster, Dexter WR KCRound 15 Pick Player1 Johnson, Larry RB WAS2 Naanee, Legedu WR SD3 Evans, Lee WR BUF4 Collie, Austin WR IND5 Taylor, Chester RB CHI6 Britt, Kenny WR TEN7 Hester, Devin WR CHI8 Williams, Mike WR SEA9 Moore, Lance WR NO10 Henderson, Devery WR NORound 16 Pick Player1 Higgins, Johnnie Lee WR OAK2 Huggins, Kareem RB TB3 McGahee, Willis RB BAL4 Williams, Roy E. WR DAL5 Scott, Bernard RB CIN6 Choice, Tashard RB DAL7 Cooley, Chris TE WAS8 Washington, Leon RB SEA9 Thomas, Demaryius WR DEN10 Robinson, Laurent WR STLRound 17 Pick Player1 Bell, Mike RB PHI2 Washington, Nate WR TEN3 Winslow, Kellen TE TB4 Norwood, Jerious RB ATL5 Packers DST6 49ers DST7 Morris, Sammy RB NE8 Jackson, Vincent WR SD9 Vick, Michael QB PHI10 Vikings DSTRound 18 Pick Player1 Olsen, Greg TE CHI2 Keller, Dustin TE NYJ3 Eagles DST4 Carlson, John TE SEA5 Lynch, Marshawn RB BUF6 Tate, Golden WR SEA7 Steelers DST8 Slaton, Steve RB HOU9 Buckhalter, Correll RB DEN10 Chargers DSTRound 19 Pick Player1 Hartline, Brian WR MIA2 Ravens DST3 Bengals DST4 Crosby, Mason K GB5 Kaeding, Nate K SD6 Walter, Kevin WR HOU7 Manningham, Mario WR NYG8 Miller, Heath TE PIT9 Gostkowski, Stephen K NE10 Akers, David K PHIRound 20 Pick Player1 Ginn Jr., Ted WR SF2 Titans DST3 Longwell, Ryan K MIN4 Avant, Jason WR PHI5 Bironas, Rob K TEN6 Jackson, Tarvaris QB MIN7 Jackson, Brandon RB GB8 Buehler, David K DAL9 Rackers, Neil K HOU10 Tynes, Lawrence K NYG

 

[Eviloutsider]

What about auction values. What percentage would you put forth for two stud QBs?

 

[Insein]

What about auction values. What percentage would you put forth for two stud QBs?

Hmm totally different realm there. Im not sure how I would approach it. It would depend on how much I valued the QB position compared to the others. IF the league scoring favors QB's heavily, I might go as high as 40% of revenue for the 2QB's. If the scoring is more even, probably 1 stud and 1 bargain.

 

[Arobmic]

2QB league draft. .5ppr. 6pts all TD's. 10 team.

We have to start 2QB, 1RB, 1WR, and 3Off. Flex - so lots of variations of lineups.

1.7 Brees

2.4 Schaub

3.7 R. White

4.4 A. Foster

5.7 J.Best

6.4 Moreno

7.7 A.Bradshaw

8.4 Bowe

9.7 Celek

10.4 Know

11.7 Orton

rest were IDP's and K

Figure I'll be starting:

Brees

Schaub

Foster

Best

Moreno

R.White

Bradshaw/Bowe

5QB's gone in the first 14 picks

 

[Winky the tunnel ferret]

I don't think any one strategy is *crucial* but I do think you'll be in much better shape if you take at least 1 stud qb. In leagues that give 6 points for passing td's I think you have a HUGE advantage if you snag 2 of the elite guys.

Of course, as with any strategy, if you whiff on all your mid and late round picks you're screwed.

I just finished an auction. 8 team league with 21 starters (idp). Average $10/ per player. Not sure how useful this will be but I ended up with (only lisng my starters):

Brady ($31)

Brees ($54)

Turner

Ronnie Brown

Greene

Roddy White

Harvin (point for return yards)

Miles Austin

Amendola

Gates

My depth is beyond horrid and my idp'ers are questionable at best...but when other folk are starting the likes of Garrard as their qb #2 it gives me a lot of room for error. My #2 qb is nearly as good as anybody's #1.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I dominated the regular season of an 8-team league two years ago where we started two QBs (although I lost in the playoffs thanks to Andre Johnson's monster game against the Titans in week 15 ). First in total points and had the best record, and I didn't take a QB until the last pick of the 7th round. My first 12 picks:

1.8 Randy Moss

2.1 Steven Jackson

3.8 Brandon Marshall

4.1 M Jones-Drew

5.8 Reggie Bush

6.1 Greg Jennings

7.8 Jay Cutler

8.1 Donovan McNabb

9.8 Chris Cooley

10.1Chris Chambers

11.8 DeAngelo Williams

12.1 Chris Johnson

So, doing extremely well by not taking a QB early in a "start two QB" league can be done. You just have to draft well. It helped that I had Cutler projected really high that year, and he was going in the 6th or 7th round of most drafts.

As a sidenote, it still makes me ill that that team did not win the championship.