Stat Padding Vs Running Up (1 Viewer)

[Ralph Furley]

I wanted to address the issue of stat padding, specifically in light of all the threads focused on running the score up.

Last night Westbrook picked up 70+ total yards and Mcnabb at least that amount, plus a TD in roughly the last 5-7 minutes of the game.

Where are all the complaints for this BS.

Why is it an unwritten rule to pull the starters from the team delivering the beatdown but not the reverse for the team receiving the beatdown,

Can someone explain to me why it was a good idea to leave Westbrook and Mcnabb in the game when it was absolutely clear that they would not win.

Why is it ok to put the losing team players at risk for injury but not the winning team?

Additionally, why is Reid calling time-outs and an onside kicking.

After watching this display I will never personally complain about another team running up the score because of this absolute hypocrisy.

Yes, I was playing against Westbrook and went from down 2 to down 9 points with Ward the only remaining player available for me and the other dude got nadda.

Yes i know.........

But I still want consensus on this.

 

[PatsWillWin]

But I still want consensus on this.

Good luck.

 

[Max Power]

Why is it an unwritten rule to pull the starters from the team delivering the beatdown but not the reverse for the team receiving the beatdown,Can someone explain to me why it was a good idea to leave Westbrook and Mcnabb in the game when it was absolutely clear that they would not win.

They obviously need the practice...

 

[thehornet]

talk about stat padding. McNabb is so incompetent that he can only complete dumpoffs to Westbrook when his team is down by 30 points. McNabb is a joke and he effed up my matchup because he is unable to hit a receiver downfield.

 

[daveandken]

I wanted to address the issue of stat padding, specifically in light of all the threads focused on running the score up.Last night Westbrook picked up 70+ total yards and Mcnabb at least that amount, plus a TD in roughly the last 5-7 minutes of the game.Where are all the complaints for this BS.Why is it an unwritten rule to pull the starters from the team delivering the beatdown but not the reverse for the team receiving the beatdown,Can someone explain to me why it was a good idea to leave Westbrook and Mcnabb in the game when it was absolutely clear that they would not win.Why is it ok to put the losing team players at risk for injury but not the winning team?Additionally, why is Reid calling time-outs and an onside kicking.After watching this display I will never personally complain about another team running up the score because of this absolute hypocrisy.Yes, I was playing against Westbrook and went from down 2 to down 9 points with Ward the only remaining player available for me and the other dude got nadda.Yes i know......... But I still want consensus on this.

Seems like apples and oranges to me. When you are losing, you keep playing in order to maintain respectability. You never see a losing team kneel down the ball. At worst, they run a draw play. If a losing team just quit and walked off the field, they would never hear the end of it.While winning, its a different story. You have already proven your point. There's really nothing to be gained by keeping your starters in.

 

[Ralph Furley]

Why is it an unwritten rule to pull the starters from the team delivering the beatdown but not the reverse for the team receiving the beatdown,Can someone explain to me why it was a good idea to leave Westbrook and Mcnabb in the game when it was absolutely clear that they would not win.

They obviously need the practice...

I just don't get it. The last five minutes was the exact same play, dump off to westbrook for 5-8 yards.Whats the point? How does this help them as a team?At least try and stretch the field if you think you have a shot. Dinking and dunking is not going to win you the game.

 

[daveandken]

talk about stat padding. McNabb is so incompetent that he can only complete dumpoffs to Westbrook when his team is down by 30 points. McNabb is a joke and he effed up my matchup because he is unable to hit a receiver downfield.

Why are you starting him. Wasn't it obvious that he was incompetent before this week?

 

[Ralph Furley]

I wanted to address the issue of stat padding, specifically in light of all the threads focused on running the score up.Last night Westbrook picked up 70+ total yards and Mcnabb at least that amount, plus a TD in roughly the last 5-7 minutes of the game.Where are all the complaints for this BS.Why is it an unwritten rule to pull the starters from the team delivering the beatdown but not the reverse for the team receiving the beatdown,Can someone explain to me why it was a good idea to leave Westbrook and Mcnabb in the game when it was absolutely clear that they would not win.Why is it ok to put the losing team players at risk for injury but not the winning team?Additionally, why is Reid calling time-outs and an onside kicking.After watching this display I will never personally complain about another team running up the score because of this absolute hypocrisy.Yes, I was playing against Westbrook and went from down 2 to down 9 points with Ward the only remaining player available for me and the other dude got nadda.Yes i know......... But I still want consensus on this.

Seems like apples and oranges to me. When you are losing, you keep playing in order to maintain respectability. You never see a losing team kneel down the ball. At worst, they run a draw play. If a losing team just quit and walked off the field, they would never hear the end of it.While winning, its a different story. You have already proven your point. There's really nothing to be gained by keeping your starters in.

How does garbage time stat padding vs back ups garnish you any respectability as a team? Or calling timeouts, onside kicking?At some point as a coach, your job is to get everyone off the field healthy and back to the practice field to right the ship.

 

[posty]

I just don't get it. The last five minutes was the exact same play, dump off to westbrook for 5-8 yards.Whats the point? How does this help them as a team?

McNabb has Westbrook on his fantasy team...

 

[daveandken]

How does garbage time stat padding vs back ups garnish you any respectability as a team? Or calling timeouts, onside kicking?At some point as a coach, your job is to get everyone off the field healthy and back to the practice field to right the ship.

You just aren't going to find many people in professional sports who are willing to quit, regardless of how far behind they are. You have to be quite competitive to get to that level. Asking them to stop trying to win is against their nature. I would want a coach or player on my team who was willing to just pack it in. Regardless of injury concerns.

 

[Ralph Furley]

How does garbage time stat padding vs back ups garnish you any respectability as a team? Or calling timeouts, onside kicking?At some point as a coach, your job is to get everyone off the field healthy and back to the practice field to right the ship.

You just aren't going to find many people in professional sports who are willing to quit, regardless of how far behind they are. You have to be quite competitive to get to that level. Asking them to stop trying to win is against their nature. I would want a coach or player on my team who was willing to just pack it in. Regardless of injury concerns.

I hear you, but that is why the coach has a job. He is there to protect his players from themselves. Mcnabb & Westbrook should not have been in the game the last 5 minutes. Up to that point fine but not the last 5.

 

[daveandken]

How does garbage time stat padding vs back ups garnish you any respectability as a team? Or calling timeouts, onside kicking?At some point as a coach, your job is to get everyone off the field healthy and back to the practice field to right the ship.

You just aren't going to find many people in professional sports who are willing to quit, regardless of how far behind they are. You have to be quite competitive to get to that level. Asking them to stop trying to win is against their nature. I would want a coach or player on my team who was willing to just pack it in. Regardless of injury concerns.

I hear you, but that is why the coach has a job. He is there to protect his players from themselves. Mcnabb & Westbrook should not have been in the game the last 5 minutes. Up to that point fine but not the last 5.

The coach's job is to win, not to protect his players.And if I'm an Eagles fan, and I see my team quit, I'm much less likely to buy tickets to the next game. Just my opinion.

 

[Da Guru]

I was suprised Westbrook was still in the game since he is very delicate..Reid probably wanted someone to take out McNabb so the Kolb era can begin.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Because Andy Reid doesn't care about your fantasy team maybe?

 

[Ralph Furley]

How does garbage time stat padding vs back ups garnish you any respectability as a team? Or calling timeouts, onside kicking?At some point as a coach, your job is to get everyone off the field healthy and back to the practice field to right the ship.

You just aren't going to find many people in professional sports who are willing to quit, regardless of how far behind they are. You have to be quite competitive to get to that level. Asking them to stop trying to win is against their nature. I would want a coach or player on my team who was willing to just pack it in. Regardless of injury concerns.

I hear you, but that is why the coach has a job. He is there to protect his players from themselves. Mcnabb & Westbrook should not have been in the game the last 5 minutes. Up to that point fine but not the last 5.

The coach's job is to win, not to protect his players.And if I'm an Eagles fan, and I see my team quit, I'm much less likely to buy tickets to the next game. Just my opinion.

Did you see the stands at the end of the game? I would say the fans had already given up on that one. I don't know, If I am a fan, I would be a lot more PO'd if my star player is injured in a blowout rather than leaving a game a few minutes early.

 

[Lord Lucan]

Yeah, and what's with Minnesota still running the ball inside the two-minute warning when it would clearly have been kinder to the well-beaten Chargers to have Bollinger drop back and pass the ball?

 

[Ralph Furley]

Because Andy Reid doesn't care about your fantasy team maybe?

Nor should he, but he should be concerned about the health of his own players.If Westbrook blows out a knee in the last two minutes of a beat-down, how does this help the Eagles for the following week?

 

[daveandken]

Did you see the stands at the end of the game? I would say the fans had already given up on that one.

I don't know, If I am a fan, I would be a lot more PO'd if my star player is injured in a blowout rather than leaving a game a few minutes early.

Sounds like a fantasy fan more than a football fan. If a player gets hurt trying to keep my team from getting blown out, I won't like it, but thats much better than just giving up.As far as fans leaving the stadium, they can leave whenever they want - they payed for the tickets. That does not give the team the right to quit playing.

 

[Ralph Furley]

Did you see the stands at the end of the game? I would say the fans had already given up on that one.

I don't know, If I am a fan, I would be a lot more PO'd if my star player is injured in a blowout rather than leaving a game a few minutes early.

Sounds like a fantasy fan more than a football fan. If a player gets hurt trying to keep my team from getting blown out, I won't like it, but thats much better than just giving up.As far as fans leaving the stadium, they can leave whenever they want - they payed for the tickets. That does not give the team the right to quit playing.

How is protecting your best players quiting? Where have I advocated kneeling on the ball?Obviously play out the rest of the game, just don't sacrifice your best players in the process. It is a 16 week season. Sometimes, you are going to lose a game. Just don't lose the season because of ego.

P.S. I have Romo, and understand there are times when players should and should not be in the game.

If I started a thread saying that Romo should have finished, than I would get your comment about fantasy vs real football.

Bottom line, for "NFL Football", in the last five minutes of a blowout, all stars from both teams should be out of the game.

 

[daveandken]

How is protecting your best players quiting? Where have I advocated kneeling on the ball?

Obviously play out the rest of the game, just don't sacrifice your best players in the process. It is a 16 week season. Sometimes, you are going to lose a game. Just don't lose the season because of ego.

P.S. I have Romo, and understand there are times when players should and should not be in the game.

If I started a thread saying that Romo should have finished, than I would get your comment about fantasy vs real football.

Bottom line, for "NFL Football", in the last five minutes of a blowout, all stars from both teams should be out of the game.

Sorry, I'm just never going to blame the losing team for trying at the end. Have you ever played competitive sports? You aren't thinking about injury when you are getting blown out. You are thinking about making the game respectable.Putting in your backups when you are down is throwing up the white flag. If I'm a fan, and I see that, I'm definitely not liking it, regardless of how much it protects the players on the team.