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Steal of the draft so far? (1 Viewer)

Marc Levin said:
Ed Wood said:
Marc Levin said:
By the end of the year, though, my vote will be going to Frank Gore or Tatum Bell as the steals of the draft.
:unsure: Gore went 4.7 in our draft, Bell 4.11
:eek:they both went in the 6th or later in all my drafts but one - Gore went at the end of the 5th in one draft.
The guy who drafted Bell prefaced it by saying, "Here's the pick that's going to win the championship."We all laughed at him. We're not laughing so much now... :bag:
 
Marc Levin said:
Grossman woul dhave to be the "so far" candidate, though Marques Colston probably gives him a run if he was drafted rather than acquired off the WW.
Neither of these guys were drafted in our 12 team re-draft.
 
Marc Levin said:
P.S. - I got Tatum at the end of the 6th in a LIVE DENVER-BASED draft.once again, "your leagues" is not the way "most leagues" work.
I got him in the fifth round of my league which is very RB heavy. He may have slipped to the sixth but I didn't want to take the chance he got taken before my sixth-round pick. I was targeting him as my RB4 and was going to take him.
 
Marc Levin said:
Grossman woul dhave to be the "so far" candidate, though Marques Colston probably gives him a run if he was drafted rather than acquired off the WW.
Neither of these guys were drafted in our 12 team re-draft.
Grossman was drafted in my 12-team 16 round big$$ draft, but we have two Bears fans in that league and, yes, he was drafted by a Bears fan.He'd have gone undrafted otherwise.
 
Got McNabb in the 9th round of a 10-team league.

Its a keeper league and several teams kept guys...several other drafted in rds 4-6. Only one other team had a need and he was at the wrong end of a wraparound so I knew I could wait out the 8th and grab him in the 9th.

 
Marc Levin said:
Ghost Rider said:
Tatum Bell hasn't even produced that well yet (he is the 26th ranked RB in the league I play in),
Well, if you read above, I said that by the end of the yearmy vote will porobably go to either TBell or FGore.Then a whole bunch of folks jumped in on TBell's ADPThat said - 26th??? Must be TD-based (or heavy PPR). Under standard FBG scoring of 1/10 and 6/TD, he's the 18th RB.
18th RB while splitting time for 1 1/2 games and already having his bye.
 
While a large percentage of drafts take place late in the preseason games, why are real leagues' drafts form early in the preseason not VALID in a steal of the draft thread?Itr is pretty piss-poor stat gathering to say that only drafts that took place in the last week in Aug, and first week in Sept are the ones that count.
SOD discussions result in people talking past each other unless some assumptions are made explicit. Leagues that drafted in September are going to have a very different answer than leagues that drafted in July, because leagues that drafted in September didn't see much value in Frank Gore. In fact, early drafts have more steals and more busts, because of intervening events. Late drafts have fewer of each because drafters have better information.As for stat gathering, if you're drafting in September, then anything earlier than late August is of dubious utility. See, for example, Dom Davis' ADP.
 
Got McNabb in the 9th round of a 10-team league. Its a keeper league and several teams kept guys...several other drafted in rds 4-6. Only one other team had a need and he was at the wrong end of a wraparound so I knew I could wait out the 8th and grab him in the 9th.
that is a steal, for sure. Hes on FIYA
 
Marc Levin said:
digitalamish said:
How about those who took the chance on Portis?Let's not forget F. Gore too.
Portis shouldn't have fall out of the first round - impossible to be a steal in the first round.Frank Gore was mentioned.
i took portis at 2.02.
 
Besides the usual suspects mentioned I'd have to say Andre Johnson who was going late 4th to 5th round in most 12 team PPR re-drafts and is the #1 WR in PPR leagues.

 
Besides the usual suspects mentioned I'd have to say Andre Johnson who was going late 4th to 5th round in most 12 team PPR re-drafts and is the #1 WR in PPR leagues.
Here's another: in an Antsports league (PPR) the #2 WR is L Coles, who I took at 8.11Of course, he's only 0.5 ahead of Berrian, but that's pretty sweet for a late Rd 8 pick.PS T Holt is #1 and A Johnson is #4
 
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although certainly not the steal of the draft, I think Baltimore Def has been a great pick for most.

They were consistently ranked behind Carolina, Chicago, Pittsburg which were considered first tier by most. They were sometimes as low as 6th or 7th.

Depending on your league's scoring they were quite the steal. They and Chicago are 14, 16, and 33 points ahead of the Def in 3rd place in my 3 main leagues.

 
People laughed when I took Jennings late in my draft, not they just laugh at me for drafting R. Bush in the 3rd round. (re-draft)

 
SOD discussions result in people talking past each other unless some assumptions are made explicit.
Absolutely - so, when I say that I believe my vote will be going to TBell and FGore by the end of the year, responding with "they went in the third, so they can't be steals" is not a particularly productive response. Is that correct?Also, considering I did an antsports.com search of real leagues from Aug. 15 to Sept. 15, and came up with ADP numbers in line with our combined ADP info from September 4th, I am confident that, even if "most leagues" only includes leagues drafting near the start of the season, Gore's ADP was the late 4th and TBell's was the late 6th. Obviously, as we said all preseason, your league's mileage may vary. (but that does not affect who should be considered a SOD).So, as I stated originally, I imagine my SOD vote by the end of the year will be for TBell or Frank Gore instead of the current SODs (who I consider to be Grossman, McAllister and maybe Colston)McNabb in the 6th is not as impressive to me since, in most leagues, Peyton was taken in the first, it was at least two rounds till the QB2's ADP, and another two rounds before the QB4's ADP. Under our 9/4 ADP sheet, McNabb was the QB5 and the 47th overall player. Grossman's production is much more impressive for the QB spot.
 
Besides the usual suspects mentioned I'd have to say Andre Johnson who was going late 4th to 5th round in most 12 team PPR re-drafts and is the #1 WR in PPR leagues.
Good call - Andre Johnson's been an excellent value pick.Not sure if he's a bigger steal than Colston. I'll throw Reggie Williams into the WR SOD mix.
 
My league must of only got the portis update after the downgrade. I got him in the 4th round in a start 2 QB league.

 
My league must of only got the portis update after the downgrade. I got him in the 4th round in a start 2 QB league.
Wow - great value - definitely a steal for you.Still, in the vast majority of leagues, it is really hard to call Portis a "steal."
 
My league must of only got the portis update after the downgrade. I got him in the 4th round in a start 2 QB league.
Wow - great value - definitely a steal for you.Still, in the vast majority of leagues, it is really hard to call Portis a "steal."
Agreed, I honestly think he fell through the cracks. I went Rudi, Jordan, in the first 2 rounds and almost took Portis at 3.9, passed and Portis came back at 4.2. Draft Dominator is a great help in knowing who is falling through the cracks.
 
My league must of only got the portis update after the downgrade. I got him in the 4th round in a start 2 QB league.
Wow - great value - definitely a steal for you.Still, in the vast majority of leagues, it is really hard to call Portis a "steal."
Agreed, I honestly think he fell through the cracks. I went Rudi, Jordan, in the first 2 rounds and almost took Portis at 3.9, passed and Portis came back at 4.2. Draft Dominator is a great help in knowing who is falling through the cracks.
I figure you had to take your first QB in a start-2 at 3.9.And, yes, the DD rawks.
 
My league must of only got the portis update after the downgrade. I got him in the 4th round in a start 2 QB league.
Wow - great value - definitely a steal for you.Still, in the vast majority of leagues, it is really hard to call Portis a "steal."
Agreed, I honestly think he fell through the cracks. I went Rudi, Jordan, in the first 2 rounds and almost took Portis at 3.9, passed and Portis came back at 4.2. Draft Dominator is a great help in knowing who is falling through the cracks.
I figure you had to take your first QB in a start-2 at 3.9.And, yes, the DD rawks.
Should have...Gates is hurting me, and Top 5 qb's went off the board early. I couldn't pull the trigger on 5-10 qb's. I'm now struggling each week with Favre, Plummer, and Pennington. Already cut Brooks. 1st yr in start 2. Very hard to draft in this format. I will be better next yr.
 
My league must of only got the portis update after the downgrade. I got him in the 4th round in a start 2 QB league.
Wow - great value - definitely a steal for you.Still, in the vast majority of leagues, it is really hard to call Portis a "steal."
Agreed, I honestly think he fell through the cracks. I went Rudi, Jordan, in the first 2 rounds and almost took Portis at 3.9, passed and Portis came back at 4.2. Draft Dominator is a great help in knowing who is falling through the cracks.
I figure you had to take your first QB in a start-2 at 3.9.And, yes, the DD rawks.
Should have...Gates is hurting me, and Top 5 qb's went off the board early. I couldn't pull the trigger on 5-10 qb's. I'm now struggling each week with Favre, Plummer, and Pennington. Already cut Brooks. 1st yr in start 2. Very hard to draft in this format. I will be better next yr.
The DD should have told you to take a QB before the end of the third round in a start-2. I know the DD loved Gates, so it probably told you to take him as the BPA, but it should have also been telling you to take a QB.Favre/Pennington in a start-2 isn't horrible, but this would be a better story if you had snagged Grossman late. ;)
 
In MBSL3 (16 teams, 4 hole) I drafted Grossman 10.13, Berrian 13.04 and Winslow 07.04. So far it looks like Grossman to me, but either he or Berrian would make excellent candidates for SOD. They are carrying me right now. Winslow just happens to be playing above his ADP right now. I wonder how long that could last?

My vote is Grossman. Probably would be in most drafts I suspect. :yes:

 
Fred Taylor went pretty late in redrafts (#86 off the board in one league) and is way outperforming his ADP ...

Surprised he has not been mentioned ...

 
Marc Levin said:
Grossman woul dhave to be the "so far" candidate, though Marques Colston probably gives him a run if he was drafted rather than acquired off the WW.

By the end of the year, though, my vote will be going to Frank Gore or Tatum Bell as the steals of the draft.

Lucking out on a late round QB is MUCH MUCH MUCH easier than lucking out with a 6th round or later RB becoming a top-5 RB.
All three of these guys are on my 2-3 team... :bag:

 
Feelin' pretty good about this thread so far - but one name has been overlooked.

Reggie Williams.

Also feelin' good about my final draft of the year (9/9) - I didn't get all on this list (and I was targeting Deuce Round 5) but I like it. Fortunately I hit on my guys late at WR to cover Fitz's injury.

Pick Player

01.08 Ronnie Brown

02.05 Larry Fitzgerald

03.08 Donald Driver

04.05 Frank Gore

05.08 Ahman Green

06.05 Rod Smith

07.08 Alge Crumpler

08.05 Michael Vick

09.08 Keyshawn Johnson

10.05 Mark Clayton

11.08 Steve McNair

12.05 Ladell Betts

13.08 Jermaine Wiggins

14.05 Bobby Engram

15.08 David Akers

16.05 Washington

17.08 Reggie Williams

18.05 Cedric Cobbs

19.08 Marques Colston

20.05 Jerramy Stevens
 
MJD in the 10th (end of the round) of a 16 teamer and getting Kellen on the turn in the 11th. So far they are the #7 and #1 respectively within their positions.

 
Jennings is not getting nearly as much respect as he deserves. In most leagues, I'd guess he was undrafted. Now he's the GB #2, perhaps #1 WR with 3 TDs. He's a target machine, has great hands and plays on a team that will play from behind most of the season.

An undrafted player headed to a possible top 10 WR season = SOD.

 
Grossman woul dhave to be the "so far" candidate, though Marques Colston probably gives him a run if he was drafted rather than acquired off the WW.
Neither of these guys were drafted in our 12 team re-draft.
Grossman was drafted in my 12-team 16 round big$$ draft, but we have two Bears fans in that league and, yes, he was drafted by a Bears fan.He'd have gone undrafted otherwise.
He probably would have went undrafted in my league as well. I drafted Peyton as my QB and only picked up Grossman as a bye week filler. I drafted him because he will play @ ARZ this week. This will be the 1st time and probably only time that I start him. Not sure that I can pull the trigger to start him over Peyton unless the matchup is just terrable.
 
Jennings is not getting nearly as much respect as he deserves. In most leagues, I'd guess he was undrafted. Now he's the GB #2, perhaps #1 WR with 3 TDs. He's a target machine, has great hands and plays on a team that will play from behind most of the season.An undrafted player headed to a possible top 10 WR season = SOD.
Colston = higher in WR standings, less well known.Jenning's been mentioned, but he was hardly unknown. He was in most FBGuys staffers' top-60 WR lists. Colston was much less well known.
 
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Jennings is not getting nearly as much respect as he deserves. In most leagues, I'd guess he was undrafted. Now he's the GB #2, perhaps #1 WR with 3 TDs. He's a target machine, has great hands and plays on a team that will play from behind most of the season.An undrafted player headed to a possible top 10 WR season = SOD.
Colston = higher in WR standings, less well known.Jenning's been mentioned, but he was hardly unknown. He was in most FBGuys staffers' top-60 WR lists. Colston was much less well known.
Colston by a MILE. Colston went to freakin' Hofstra. The last famous person to come out of Hofstra was Bill Cosby.
 
Jennings is not getting nearly as much respect as he deserves. In most leagues, I'd guess he was undrafted. Now he's the GB #2, perhaps #1 WR with 3 TDs. He's a target machine, has great hands and plays on a team that will play from behind most of the season.

An undrafted player headed to a possible top 10 WR season = SOD.
Colston = higher in WR standings, less well known.Jenning's been mentioned, but he was hardly unknown. He was in most FBGuys staffers' top-60 WR lists. Colston was much less well known.
Colston by a MILE. Colston went to freakin' Hofstra. The last famous person to come out of Hofstra was Bill Cosby.
Wayne Chrebet down?
 
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Jeff Pasquino said:
jdoggydogg said:
Jennings is not getting nearly as much respect as he deserves. In most leagues, I'd guess he was undrafted. Now he's the GB #2, perhaps #1 WR with 3 TDs. He's a target machine, has great hands and plays on a team that will play from behind most of the season.

An undrafted player headed to a possible top 10 WR season = SOD.
Colston = higher in WR standings, less well known.Jenning's been mentioned, but he was hardly unknown. He was in most FBGuys staffers' top-60 WR lists. Colston was much less well known.
Colston by a MILE. Colston went to freakin' Hofstra. The last famous person to come out of Hofstra was Bill Cosby.
Wayne Chrebet down?
How could I forget the Flashlight?
 

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