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Absolutely, no reason not to. Down by 7, at home on Faulk Day, 3-11 (now 12) and a net punt of 20 yards? Almost as weak a call as Billick going for a FG from the half yard line last week.
I can only imagine that he was telling Linecrap that a 10 year old could outcoach him.He has two of the games best in Holt and Jackson and they touch the ball a combined 18 times tonight.Sjax had 12 rushes for 85 yards. I would love to know how many of those touches were in the first half. Smiling and laughing on the sidelines when your team blows the game is unacceptable. regardless of your record.Holt was pissed, I would love to know what was said in that exchange...
Gives me the feeling I am watching second rate football. Leaders don't laugh at their own failures.
Own failures?
yep, the mess that is the 2007 Rams is in part his failure
I could not get the entire exchange but I'm pretty sure the last thing the camera showed Holt saying was "it's your fault man".Holt was pissed, I would love to know what was said in that exchange...
In part his failure?
Red, if you got something to say, then say it.
I'm just trying to understand.
Did you catch any of the Linehan postgame interview? The guy comes off as clueless. When asked about the Holt issue, he gave the "not and issue" line, but you could just tell Linehan knew he was in the wrong on that one.Linehan should be the last one laughing at his team losing another game. He has more of an impact on that team than any single player. So naturally when things go poorly, he should take the most repsonsability for it.
I've been saying this for 2 years. FIRE LINEHAN NOW!You could clearly see him talking to Bulger and then smiliing as he turned away. When Holt saw that he WENT OFF on Linehan, good for him! It's about time someone called him out on his horrible coaching and leadership!On to the stats:Jackson 1st half- 5 rushes for 65 yards, 2 for 18yds and 1 TDJackson 2nd half- 7 rushes for 26 ydsJackson is clearly the type of back you want to get the ball to as he can break one and change a game at any moment. Linehan on the other hand feels that once they are down it is a better option to throw 45 times.When your best player (Jackson) only touches the ball 12 times and averages over 7 yds per carry and you don't look for ways to get him the ball, you deserve all the criticism in the world!All I want for XMAS is a new head coach, a new head coach, a new head coach! P.S. What really pisses me off is the fact that Jackson ran the ball back to back times in the 3rd quarter (1st and 2nd down) and got like 4yds and all I could hear was St. Louis fans booing! They still believe they are the "gratest show on turf". They don't realize what a player they have in Jackson, and overvalue their AVERAGE Qb.I can only imagine that he was telling Linecrap that a 10 year old could outcoach him.He has two of the games best in Holt and Jackson and they touch the ball a combined 18 times tonight.Sjax had 12 rushes for 85 yards. I would love to know how many of those touches were in the first half. Smiling and laughing on the sidelines when your team blows the game is unacceptable. regardless of your record.Holt was pissed, I would love to know what was said in that exchange...
Yep, earlier in the exchange i read "You the coach, man...it's not funny!"I could not get the entire exchange but I'm pretty sure the last thing the camera showed Holt saying was "it's your fault man".Holt was pissed, I would love to know what was said in that exchange...
who are you saying he's better than, AD or LT?
Why do you have Kobe's 81 points in your sig? Isn't the record 100 points by Chamberlain?
Billick's decision gave the Ravens a 98% chance of tying the game and about a 49% chance of winning the game (98% chance of making the FG + 50% chance of winning in OT). Had he chose to go for it, he would have had a 0% chance of tying the game and about a 48% chance of winning the game (based on Baltimore's 4th down conversion rate). That's practically a push.Meanwhile, Linehan's choices boiled down to:1. go for it on 4th down (35% success rate) + score TD from 32 yard line (~30%)2. get a defensive stop (~25% success rate) + drive entire length of field and score TD (much lower than 30% success rate)You also must consider that Linehan only gained 18 yards by punting, so even if he went for it on 4th down and failed, the Rams would be only slightly worse off than if they punted.Linehan was looking at probably a 15% chance of tying the game if he went for it on 4th down, and probably a 5% chance of tying the game if he punted. That's much worse than Billick. Billick played the percentages and lost. Linehan played to lose.
cholo said:
I'm pretty sure this is EXACTLY what Holt was pissed about. 4th and 6 from the Stiller's 35'ish. Boom goes the punt, and I picked up my pen and wrote "Game over" in my journal. That is THREE weeks in arow that Linehan has shown was a mincy little vajayjay he is. I'm pretty sure Holt has had enough of it.Sheriff66 said:Holt was pissed, I would love to know what was said in that exchange...
I don't know if that was the issue, but it sure did look like Taylor fumbled it through the endzone on the play.Dennis said:
I agree. All second half Davenport is just pounding us. Instead of going 4 wide and throwing the ball and letting there D off the hook why not pound it right back at them. Its hard to be too upset losing a game to a good team when your season is over but that one left a bad taste in my mouth
Gold.
I have a couple of questions. First, are these numbers individual team averages or are they league averages? I'm asking because when you described Billick's decision, you cited the Ravens' conversion rate, and when you described the Rams you used what look like estimates of league averages, since they're all such tidy numbers. Second, if you use individual team averages, would you want to incorporate the defense in there somehow? Billick was playing against the #32 defense by DVOA, Linehan was playing against #1. That looks like a big difference to me.So, if you're using rough league averages in figuring this out, you would be overestimating the Rams' chances of converting. And if you're using individual team averages in Baltimore's case, but not factoring in defense, then you're underestimating Baltimore's chances of converting.Billick's decision gave the Ravens a 98% chance of tying the game and about a 49% chance of winning the game (98% chance of making the FG + 50% chance of winning in OT). Had he chose to go for it, he would have had a 0% chance of tying the game and about a 48% chance of winning the game (based on Baltimore's 4th down conversion rate). That's practically a push.Meanwhile, Linehan's choices boiled down to:1. go for it on 4th down (35% success rate) + score TD from 32 yard line (~30%)2. get a defensive stop (~25% success rate) + drive entire length of field and score TD (much lower than 30% success rate)You also must consider that Linehan only gained 18 yards by punting, so even if he went for it on 4th down and failed, the Rams would be only slightly worse off than if they punted.Linehan was looking at probably a 15% chance of tying the game if he went for it on 4th down, and probably a 5% chance of tying the game if he punted. That's much worse than Billick. Billick played the percentages and lost. Linehan played to lose.
I was just going by the NFL.com offensive stats, but I hadn't considered the defensive percentages. So yeah, Baltimore's chances would have been higher than 47%. (But by the same token, their chances in overtime would have also been higher than 50%, considering that Miami was the worst team in the league.)So, the Ravens had a ~57% chance of winning instantly vs. a better-than-50% chance of winning in overtime. I still think that's too close to say that one choice was definitely better than the other.
It's funny that everybody and their mother knows this, except for the head coach. Too bad Jackson hardly ever gets the chance.|For cry out loud, PLEASE FIRE LINEHAN!He is a disgrace!
My numbers weren't exactly scientific, but here's what I came up with:Baltimore:98% chance of making FG (Stover's stats for short FGs and XPs)50% chance of winning in overtime (which had no statistical backing whatsover; the number should have been much higher considering how bad Miami is)47% chance of scoring TD (based on their 4th down conversation rate, although that number is for ALL 4th downs; the % is likely higher for 4th-and-1)St. Louis:35% chance of getting 1st down (based on their 4th down conversation rate)30% of scoring TD (just an estimate based on their 41% red zone success)25% chance of getting a defensive stop (based on the fact that Pittsburgh scored on 75% of their drives Thursday night)
So you're saying no because you don't think it's almost as weak? You feel it's necessary to argue how much more or less a bad call it was? Because I clearly stated that Billick's call was worse.Or did you just not understand what you read?
Anybody NOT know the game was over right then?
