Strategy Madness (1 Viewer)

[ddarroch4]

Which team would have been better in '09?

I'm going to post teams that you would have had last year if you followed certain strategies.

Using average auction values for last year and assuming you get the best free agents is not a perfect formula but it's how I'll determine the teams.

Team 1 Auction strategy - Go with the studs at the hardest positions to fill. RB, QB, DL in that order.

09 result

QB Drew Brees

RB's Adrian Peterson / MJD

Flex Matt Forte

WR's Mike Sims Walker / Davone Bess

TE Jermichael Finley

K Nate Kaeding

DL Jared Allen / Justin Tuck

LB's Elvis Dumervil / DeMeco Ryans / Clay Mathews

DB's Brian Dawkins / Vontae Davis

Team 2 - Skip the RB's and go for the top players at everything but K and DB

QB Drew Brees

RB's Ricky Williams / Justin Forsett

WR's Larry Fitzgerald / Andre Johnson

Flex Calvin Johnson

TE Jason Witten

K Nate Kaeding

DL Jared Allen / Mario Williams

LB's Patrick Willis / Jon Beason / James Harrison

DB's Brian Dawkins / Vontae Davis

In summary both team end up with the same QB, K and DB's and team 2 has a slight edge at DL.

 

[CaptainHook]

Ridiculous

 

[Pickle Rody]

I'm confused. Which team will move ahead.....the team that actually did better in '09, or the team that wins out in the poll?

I think you might be better off just telling us what direction you want to open up our eyes to, especially if this team comparison is based more on auction strategy than any other type of draft. There are plenty of folks around these parts that do auctions, but they aren't near mainstream yet.

(Trying to add some constructive criticism here instead of just telling you your post sucks.)

 

[ddarroch4]

I'm confused. Which team will move ahead.....the team that actually did better in '09, or the team that wins out in the poll?I think you might be better off just telling us what direction you want to open up our eyes to, especially if this team comparison is based more on auction strategy than any other type of draft. There are plenty of folks around these parts that do auctions, but they aren't near mainstream yet.(Trying to add some constructive criticism here instead of just telling you your post sucks.)

I guess you confuse easily. Not everyone is in a dynasty league and wants to talk about Anthony Dixon's value in June. I think looking at last year and learning from how a team drafts is a good use of time in June. This auction could easily be converted into a draft strategy. Obviously you couldn't get the top 3 RB's in a draft but the basic load up on RB's or skip them can easily be applied to a draft strategy.

 

[ookook]

Truly, I have no idea what you are trying to do in this thread.

But enough with the insults about owners stuck in the 1990s or psoters confusing easily.

Clearly the problem is that we are not as clever or cool as you are and perhaps you should find a different forum with your equals. (hint, hint)

 

[FUBAR]

I'm confused. Which team will move ahead.....the team that actually did better in '09, or the team that wins out in the poll?

I think you might be better off just telling us what direction you want to open up our eyes to, especially if this team comparison is based more on auction strategy than any other type of draft. There are plenty of folks around these parts that do auctions, but they aren't near mainstream yet.

(Trying to add some constructive criticism here instead of just telling you your post sucks.)

I guess you confuse easily. Not everyone is in a dynasty league and wants to talk about Anthony Dixon's value in June. I think looking at last year and learning from how a team drafts is a good use of time in June. This auction could easily be converted into a draft strategy. Obviously you couldn't get the top 3 RB's in a draft but the basic load up on RB's or skip them can easily be applied to a draft strategy.

Sure, but a few questions1. If your question is "which team would do better in 09", you don't need a poll for that.

2. How would a team end up with Brees, AD, MJD, Allen, Tuck, and Ryans or Brees, Fitz, AJ. CJ, Witten, Mario, Allen, Willis, Beason, and Harrison in any format?

3. Why so condescending? I won't go to the "hey new guy..." line but you're sounding toolish here. I'm sure you have a great point to make or discussion to spark but think this through and try again.

 

[Pickle Rody]

I'm confused. Which team will move ahead.....the team that actually did better in '09, or the team that wins out in the poll?I think you might be better off just telling us what direction you want to open up our eyes to, especially if this team comparison is based more on auction strategy than any other type of draft. There are plenty of folks around these parts that do auctions, but they aren't near mainstream yet.(Trying to add some constructive criticism here instead of just telling you your post sucks.)

I guess you confuse easily. Not everyone is in a dynasty league and wants to talk about Anthony Dixon's value in June. I think looking at last year and learning from how a team drafts is a good use of time in June. This auction could easily be converted into a draft strategy. Obviously you couldn't get the top 3 RB's in a draft but the basic load up on RB's or skip them can easily be applied to a draft strategy.

Okay champ, I was trying to be diplomatic in responding to your post without insulting you. I am apparently not the only one confused here. I think you might possibly have something to add which might benefit a lot of folks in the SP, but this is not clear at all.Is this a comparison of actual auction teams from last year? Yes or no? If not, how are we supposed to glean anything from these comparisons? If you want to look at last year and compare two different sets of auction drafting strategies, you might want to actually use real drafted teams for comparison. You don't list costs associated with drafting these players on these teams and it appears you just threw two sets of lists together with slight differences to try to instigate discussion. Your premise is heavily flawed.If you are going to state that by looking at last year we can learn something, you are probably right. The thing is, I'm not seeing it. I suggested you just come right out with your observations and open our eyes, but you replied with sarcasm. Quite frankly, I don't see how either of those teams you posted could be acquired in an auction draft, which I suspect is why CaptainHook responded with a simple "ridiculous" post. I, on the other hand, was willing to give you an out......a way to save this thread and have some meaningful discussion about your auction drafting strategy comparisons and what you have learned.So, what are your real life observations about loading up on RB's (or not) in auction drafts? Come on, spread the wealth of information you have and maybe, just maybe, this thread will become something where everyone who participates can learn something about auction draft strategy with regards to gunning for top RB's or not.Good luck with your auction drafts in 2010!!Rody

 

[DoubleG]

I'm confused. Which team will move ahead.....the team that actually did better in '09, or the team that wins out in the poll?I think you might be better off just telling us what direction you want to open up our eyes to, especially if this team comparison is based more on auction strategy than any other type of draft. There are plenty of folks around these parts that do auctions, but they aren't near mainstream yet.(Trying to add some constructive criticism here instead of just telling you your post sucks.)

I guess you confuse easily. Not everyone is in a dynasty league and wants to talk about Anthony Dixon's value in June. I think looking at last year and learning from how a team drafts is a good use of time in June. This auction could easily be converted into a draft strategy. Obviously you couldn't get the top 3 RB's in a draft but the basic load up on RB's or skip them can easily be applied to a draft strategy.

Nice. The OP is confusing, not based on real teams and the premise isn't clear. The first person who responds with an intelligent thought gets insulted - as does anyone asking for clarification. Your making friends fast.

 

[elbowrm]

Rephrase of the OP: "I'm thinking that RBs have become overvalued. In fact, in 2009 you could have won your league if you went WR/QB/WR and then drafted RBs, you could have won your league. Just imagine - you could have had Ricky Williams, Justin Forsett, Ray Rice, Joe Addai, and Cedric Benson in rounds 6+. What do you think?"

 

[DropKick]

Agree with all the criticism about the direction of this thread. What is "strategy madness"?

But... if your point is that the stud RB approach isn't always best, I'll agree. In this example, both ADP and MJD, did not meet (albeit lofty) expectations. When you can get studs at other positions (Fitz, AJ, ...), you can often find serviceable backs in the mid/later rounds or from the waiver.

 

[DoubleG]

Agree with all the criticism about the direction of this thread. What is "strategy madness"?But... if your point is that the stud RB approach isn't always best, I'll agree. In this example, both ADP and MJD, did not meet (albeit lofty) expectations. When you can get studs at other positions (Fitz, AJ, ...), you can often find serviceable backs in the mid/later rounds or from the waiver.

I also think a contrinuting factor is injury - especially at the RB position. Many backups/late round fliers/rookie RBs are one injury (or a couple weeks of poor performances by average veteran starters - or guys who catch "fumblitis") away from being FF relevant. There are many (myself included) that think the top 5-6 WRs and top 3-4 QBs more consistantly finish in that area than the top 5-6 RBs - especially in dynasty leagues.