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Superb "team-by-team" Linebackers write-up (1 Viewer)
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Jene Bramel
Footballguy
FootballOutsiders often has some good bare-bones football information. I like Tanier's stuff a lot, but he'll sometimes slot players out of place or have incorrect depth chart information. There's some of that in this article, too. But he usually does a pretty good job of discussing defensive concepts and some of the stats they generate are pretty nice.This stood out to me.
That should prove once and for all that that talk about X% of his tackles were too far from the LOS is bunk without context.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I like the article but wish I could see the raw data on "stops".
Not that it has any impact for FF IDP other than recognising which players will be more valuable in FA and to thier respective teams.
I have no idea why SD is not happy with Edwards. He has been and is one of the best defenders in the league period.
Not that it has any impact for FF IDP other than recognising which players will be more valuable in FA and to thier respective teams.
I have no idea why SD is not happy with Edwards. He has been and is one of the best defenders in the league period.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Don't have it yet but the raw data may be in this season's Football Prospectus. Some of it is applicable to IDP leagues, in the sense that it helps to learn whose skill set works well in which scheme.
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ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Men-in-Cleats
Footballguy
Good info here.LOL at
Renegades of Funk
Footballguy
Thanks for pointing out that toast quote. I wasn't planning on linking to the article and I would have missed one of the better one liners I've seen in a while. Very funny.
Rovers
Footballguy
Football Outsiders...meh. They try to turn the NFL game into some complicated mathematical formula that ignores all the intangables. They do a write up on the Jets, misplell Kassel's name and never mention Barton. Football isn't physics, but they keep attempting to make it just that.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Would be cool to see this.But sounds like it is not in digital format?Sorry I don't know what football prospectus is.Amazon shipped mine a couple of days ago. Should get it today.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
It's a book. Inspired by the sabermetric movement that works well for some baseball enthusiasts. There is a yearly book (Baseball Prospectus) and now a separate stand-alone book by the same crew that has used some pretty interesting statistical measures to evaluate baseball players by taking as much luck out of the equation as possible and providing a framework to compare production across leagues and eras. Statistical ideas have been tried in the past for football -- Bob Carroll and others in The Hidden Game of Football for example -- but haven't gained much of a following at all. Think TMQ beating "It is better to have run and lost than never to have run at all" type essays.Although I agree with Rovers that football doesn't lend itself well to individual statistical analysis well at all because of the many variables involved in team play, there are some interesting raw stats that you can use as an adjunct to your player evaluation.Would be cool to see this.But sounds like it is not in digital format?
Sorry I don't know what football prospectus is.
I haven't seen this year's book yet, but, much like targets on the offensive side of the ball and now passes defended, breaking out tackles made in pass coverage and near the line of scrimmage is good data to have. It'll still be up to the reader to decide how to interpret (eg. were those tackles made due to scheme, solid surrounding cast, etc), but there are things to be gleaned from them.
It's worth flipping through in the bookstore. Some people love Dr. Z, some don't. Some people will be into this analysis, some won't.
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Rovers
Footballguy
I didn't mean to imply that statistical analysis doesn't have it's place.... it certainly does, but they take it to an extreme that I find is faulted, and therefore limits the usefulness of their data.It's a book. Inspired by the sabermetric movement that works well for some baseball enthusiasts. There is a yearly book (Baseball Prospectus) and now a separate stand-alone book by the same crew that has used some pretty interesting statistical measures to evaluate baseball players by taking as much luck out of the equation as possible and providing a framework to compare production across leagues and eras. Statistical ideas have been tried in the past for football -- Bob Carroll and others in The Hidden Game of Football for example -- but haven't gained much of a following at all. Think TMQ beating "It is better to have run and lost than never to have run at all" type essays.Although I agree with Rovers that football doesn't lend itself well to individual statistical analysis well at all because of the many variables involved in team play, there are some interesting raw stats that you can use as an adjunct to your player evaluation.Would be cool to see this.But sounds like it is not in digital format?
Sorry I don't know what football prospectus is.
I haven't seen this year's book yet, but, much like targets on the offensive side of the ball and now passes defended, breaking out tackles made in pass coverage and near the line of scrimmage is good data to have. It'll still be up to the reader to decide how to interpret (eg. were those tackles made due to scheme, solid surrounding cast, etc), but there are things to be gleaned from them.
It's worth flipping through in the bookstore. Some people love Dr. Z, some don't. Some people will be into this analysis, some won't.
