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[jmble]

I'm pick number 8 of 12 in a Superflex league. I grabbed Tyreek Hill at number 1.

The way the draft is going, it looks like one of Jefferson, St Brown, and Chase could very well be available when I pick in the second round. Is it worth loading up on two of the top WRs in a PPR league and then risk being stuck with two QBs in the bottom third of the rankings? It feels like the right decision to make, but it makes me nervous not knowing how many more QBs are going to come flying off the board before I pick again.

 

[Gally]

How is the scoring set up? Do QB's dominate in points? What QB would be taking instead of JJ, ARSM or Chase? That info is key to make a decision.

 

[Jaruby]

Hard to say with given info. I’d assume if the QBs are all going it’s probably for a reason. In a 12 team in might be very hard to get anything of value for your first let alone second QB. ALL that being said unless one of the top QBs is there Id gladly pick one of this WRs.

 

[steelcityman]

I have pick 7 in a SFlex draft this Saturday, PPR league, 14 teams. I gotta take QB, no matter what RB or WR is there. I figure the top 4 QBs are gone 1-4. Maybe CMC or CeeDee go in the 5 or 6 spots, leaving me a choice of Burrow, Dak, Love, Stroud, ARich, Murray. I have a feeling I wont know who I pick until I say the players name. Wouldnt mind Dak if he was staying in Dallas, I think he will, but i dont want him if he is a Steeler or Panther next year. Burrow could throw for 40 TDs if he plays 16+ games. I like Love and Stroud a lot. Murray and ARich seem the most risky, but have highest ceilings maybe.
And I will probably be looking at QB in RD 2 as well. Unless there is an elite WR, and no stand out QBs left.
Its a QB driven league, without 2 good QBs, you will be pressed to even make the playoffs.

 

[Gally]

I gotta take QB, no matter what RB or WR is there.

I disagree. If you go in with that mindset you have the chance to miss a player that falls. What is the scoring like? Are you sure that QB's are a must start in the SF spot? How many QB's are in the top 20 of scorers? Top 50?

A mistake many SF drafters make is not knowing the scoring system and not seeing that QB isn't a must start at SF. If the scoring is set up properly (IMO) a QB isn't a must for the SF spot.

Making a combined draft board is important so you can stay on track. Don't force positions. Draft BPA in most instances based on your scoring and format.

Wouldnt mind Dak if he was staying in Dallas,

Is this for a dynasty?

 

[Big Nate]

I have pick 7 in a SFlex draft this Saturday, PPR league, 14 teams. I gotta take QB, no matter what RB or WR is there. I figure the top 4 QBs are gone 1-4. Maybe CMC or CeeDee go in the 5 or 6 spots, leaving me a choice of Burrow, Dak, Love, Stroud, ARich, Murray. I have a feeling I wont know who I pick until I say the players name. Wouldnt mind Dak if he was staying in Dallas, I think he will, but i dont want him if he is a Steeler or Panther next year. Burrow could throw for 40 TDs if he plays 16+ games. I like Love and Stroud a lot. Murray and ARich seem the most risky, but have highest ceilings maybe.
And I will probably be looking at QB in RD 2 as well. Unless there is an elite WR, and no stand out QBs left.
Its a QB driven league, without 2 good QBs, you will be pressed to even make the playoffs.

Is this a start-up league as you mention next year. I think Stroud is probably gone by 7. Burrow and Love would likely be my next 2 choices as they aren't going anywhere. If I felt frisky i would go Arich or Murray but unlikely over Burrow or Love. It is tough though but I rank them: Mahomes, Allen, Lamar/Hurts, Stroud, Burrow, Love. Love is still a bit risky but has a ton of young WRs to work with over his next few years. If I wanted to go big risk but high upside I take ARich or Murray over Love. Its close.

If Burrow happens to be there at 7 I would gladly take him

 

[Big Nate]

I'm pick number 8 of 12 in a Superflex league. I grabbed Tyreek Hill at number 1.

The way the draft is going, it looks like one of Jefferson, St Brown, and Chase could very well be available when I pick in the second round. Is it worth loading up on two of the top WRs in a PPR league and then risk being stuck with two QBs in the bottom third of the rankings? It feels like the right decision to make, but it makes me nervous not knowing how many more QBs are going to come flying off the board before I pick again.

Not taking a QB with your first 2 picks could come back to haunt. It will be slim pickings by round 4 if you are looking for your QB2. You might be looking at Rodgers and Stafford which may work in redraft for 1 year.

 

[Ray_T]

I'm pick number 8 of 12 in a Superflex league. I grabbed Tyreek Hill at number 1.

The way the draft is going, it looks like one of Jefferson, St Brown, and Chase could very well be available when I pick in the second round. Is it worth loading up on two of the top WRs in a PPR league and then risk being stuck with two QBs in the bottom third of the rankings? It feels like the right decision to make, but it makes me nervous not knowing how many more QBs are going to come flying off the board before I pick again.

first you need to specify what you are drafting for:

1. we need the RULES

2. is this going to be a keeper league or just a redraft. if Keeper I'd pick the best young QB on the board (or take two so you can dominate for a very long time)

if its a regular superflex redraft, you likely have already missed out on the elite QB but QB depth is pretty significant this year moreso than any other in the recent past.

either way, it would be helpful to know who has gone already and who is on the board still at QB. grabbing a second elite WR is never a terrible call in a PPR league but then you need to be prepared to take 2 QB in short order in the next 2 rounds. by round 5 there wont be a whole lot of decent QB left.

if one of the elite QB is still on the board you may want to consider taking one. The QB play really determines the scoring in that flex spot. a top QB will score 20 to 25 points per week while most WR flexs get 15 or less. so you do want a QB for the flex spot. Ideally a good one

 

[steelcityman]

I have pick 7 in a SFlex draft this Saturday, PPR league, 14 teams. I gotta take QB, no matter what RB or WR is there. I figure the top 4 QBs are gone 1-4. Maybe CMC or CeeDee go in the 5 or 6 spots, leaving me a choice of Burrow, Dak, Love, Stroud, ARich, Murray. I have a feeling I wont know who I pick until I say the players name. Wouldnt mind Dak if he was staying in Dallas, I think he will, but i dont want him if he is a Steeler or Panther next year. Burrow could throw for 40 TDs if he plays 16+ games. I like Love and Stroud a lot. Murray and ARich seem the most risky, but have highest ceilings maybe.
And I will probably be looking at QB in RD 2 as well. Unless there is an elite WR, and no stand out QBs left.
Its a QB driven league, without 2 good QBs, you will be pressed to even make the playoffs.

Is this a start-up league as you mention next year. I think Stroud is probably gone by 7. Burrow and Love would likely be my next 2 choices as they aren't going anywhere. If I felt frisky i would go Arich or Murray but unlikely over Burrow or Love. It is tough though but I rank them: Mahomes, Allen, Lamar/Hurts, Stroud, Burrow, Love. Love is still a bit risky but has a ton of young WRs to work with over his next few years. If I wanted to go big risk but high upside I take ARich or Murray over Love. Its close.

If Burrow happens to be there at 7 I would gladly take him

Its the restart of a keeper league, its a 3 yr cycle, this will be year 1. So every player is in the pool and can be kept thru the 2026 season.

Its hard to say I will take X, with 6 picks before me, and someone will take RB or WR. Like I said, I wont know who I get until I say the name at the draft. Then hope to get a Daniels or Williams in the 2nd, and be set at QB for 3 years. Goff, Tua, Purdy, TLaw would be others to consider, depending on the draft to that point.

 

[Big Nate]

I have pick 7 in a SFlex draft this Saturday, PPR league, 14 teams. I gotta take QB, no matter what RB or WR is there. I figure the top 4 QBs are gone 1-4. Maybe CMC or CeeDee go in the 5 or 6 spots, leaving me a choice of Burrow, Dak, Love, Stroud, ARich, Murray. I have a feeling I wont know who I pick until I say the players name. Wouldnt mind Dak if he was staying in Dallas, I think he will, but i dont want him if he is a Steeler or Panther next year. Burrow could throw for 40 TDs if he plays 16+ games. I like Love and Stroud a lot. Murray and ARich seem the most risky, but have highest ceilings maybe.
And I will probably be looking at QB in RD 2 as well. Unless there is an elite WR, and no stand out QBs left.
Its a QB driven league, without 2 good QBs, you will be pressed to even make the playoffs.

Is this a start-up league as you mention next year. I think Stroud is probably gone by 7. Burrow and Love would likely be my next 2 choices as they aren't going anywhere. If I felt frisky i would go Arich or Murray but unlikely over Burrow or Love. It is tough though but I rank them: Mahomes, Allen, Lamar/Hurts, Stroud, Burrow, Love. Love is still a bit risky but has a ton of young WRs to work with over his next few years. If I wanted to go big risk but high upside I take ARich or Murray over Love. Its close.

If Burrow happens to be there at 7 I would gladly take him

Its the restart of a keeper league, its a 3 yr cycle, this will be year 1. So every player is in the pool and can be kept thru the 2026 season.

Its hard to say I will take X, with 6 picks before me, and someone will take RB or WR. Like I said, I wont know who I get until I say the name at the draft. Then hope to get a Daniels or Williams in the 2nd, and be set at QB for 3 years. Goff, Tua, Purdy, TLaw would be others to consider, depending on the draft to that point.

I think Goff is a safe pick if he is there as a QB2. But I'd love Tlaw as he is getting more weapons this year and looking comfortable this preseason with the 2nd year in this offense.

My sleeper is Herbert. He has a QB 4 finish under his belt. He is a fantastic thrower and while they will run more he should be very efficient as a passer. If I had Herbert as my #2 I'd be more than thrilled as his value has dropped too much.

The new coaches that came in are floored as how good Herbert is at throwing and picking up the new offense. If he slides I'd be happy to have him as my QB2.

 

[Gally]

Then hope to get a Daniels or Williams in the 2nd,

For only three years there are many other QB's I would feel safer with than these two. For all the hype it is shiny new toy hype which is more founded in hope than facts. You may be forced into that situation but I would rather have a more proven commodity if given the choice.

Again, this is also depending on the scoring and whether or not QB is a necessity in the SF spot or not.

 

[Big Nate]

Then hope to get a Daniels or Williams in the 2nd,

For only three years there are many other QB's I would feel safer with than these two. For all the hype it is shiny new toy hype which is more founded in hope than facts. You may be forced into that situation but I would rather have a more proven commodity if given the choice.

Again, this is also depending on the scoring and whether or not QB is a necessity in the SF spot or not.

This is a good point. 3-years is basically "win now" and go for it. Also with it only being 3-years and resetting I wouldn't mind a shot at Arich or Kyler - the upside is huge and can give you a win now.

 

[Jaruby]

Even after all the info I still think if you get 2 elite WRs/RBs like your original question you are fine. Since it’s a 3 yr cycle I feel even better about it. If this was my draft I’d plan on specific QBs over the elite position players. If they are there I go QB if not I go elite position. Same with 2nd pick… if QBX is still there take him if not grab another elite position player. I would not care. It has worked for me in the past on redraft and 3 yr hold doesn’t change my mind enough. If it was yr1 dynasty I’d make sure one of the two picks was a QB.

 

[Big Nate]

Even after all the info I still think if you get 2 elite WRs/RBs like your original question you are fine. Since it’s a 3 yr cycle I feel even better about it. If this was my draft I’d plan on specific QBs over the elite position players. If they are there I go QB if not I go elite position. Same with 2nd pick… if QBX is still there take him if not grab another elite position player. I would not care. It has worked for me in the past on redraft and 3 yr hold doesn’t change my mind enough. If it was yr1 dynasty I’d make sure one of the two picks was a QB.

Can you clarify - you say it has worked for you in redraft: Have you played SuperFlex redraft where you didn't pick up 2 QBs early? I just haven't seen it work more often than not and you have to really hope your late/scrub QBs work out.

The one thing this year is maybe you can get by with a Goff/Rogers/Stafford QB combo but it might not be pretty.

You really have to be savy to skip QBs in SuperFlex. Doable - maybe but I wouldn't recommend it.

 

[Gally]

Have you played SuperFlex redraft where you didn't pick up 2 QBs early?

Yes many times and have won this way. It really depends on the scoring system. Not all SF leagues are created equal. If QB dominates the scoring leaderboards based on the scoring system then you are forced into it and it might as well be a 2 QB league. If done right, the scoring is normalized so QB's aren't the end all be all and it allows different builds to be competitive. It increases the overall value of QB's but not to the point of making it a defacto 2QB league.

 

[Here's Johnny]

I have pick 7 in a SFlex draft this Saturday, PPR league, 14 teams. I gotta take QB, no matter what RB or WR is there. I figure the top 4 QBs are gone 1-4. Maybe CMC or CeeDee go in the 5 or 6 spots, leaving me a choice of Burrow, Dak, Love, Stroud, ARich, Murray. I have a feeling I wont know who I pick until I say the players name. Wouldnt mind Dak if he was staying in Dallas, I think he will, but i dont want him if he is a Steeler or Panther next year. Burrow could throw for 40 TDs if he plays 16+ games. I like Love and Stroud a lot. Murray and ARich seem the most risky, but have highest ceilings maybe.
And I will probably be looking at QB in RD 2 as well. Unless there is an elite WR, and no stand out QBs left.
Its a QB driven league, without 2 good QBs, you will be pressed to even make the playoffs.

You know your league, but I made this mistake in my SF league. At #11 of 12man league, took Chase #1, then took Stroud #2, but could have taken AJ Brown. Round 3 Dak was there. So instead of having Dak, Brown, Chase, I have Chase, Stroud, R White. If all the QB's go early, I agree with you, but if not... #7 is a good spot because you won't get left in the dust if there is a big run.

 

[Big Nate]

Have you played SuperFlex redraft where you didn't pick up 2 QBs early?

Yes many times and have won this way. It really depends on the scoring system. Not all SF leagues are created equal. If QB dominates the scoring leaderboards based on the scoring system then you are forced into it and it might as well be a 2 QB league. If done right, the scoring is normalized so QB's aren't the end all be all and it allows different builds to be competitive. It increases the overall value of QB's but not to the point of making it a defacto 2QB league.

Good point about knowing league scoring settings. It is key no matter what format (SF, standard, PPR etc).

In SF leagues I personally don't feel comfortable skipping on QB in the first 2 rounds. It can get pretty ugly trying to scrounge up a couple QBs later and then having to reach at times if you feel you will get sniped.

As for late round QBs I feel like we might be back to a spot like a few years ago where maybe you can snag some starters in the mid/late rounds and be OK if they stay healthy and produce.

A Rogers/Cousins combo is very risky but if they play the whole year maybe, just maybe you get lucky having a couple top 15QBs.

 

[Gally]

A Rogers/Cousins combo is very risky but if they play the whole year maybe, just maybe you get lucky having a couple top 15QBs.

If they stay healthy (and it's a big if) I believe they will both be around QB10 or better.

 

[Jaruby]

Even after all the info I still think if you get 2 elite WRs/RBs like your original question you are fine. Since it’s a 3 yr cycle I feel even better about it. If this was my draft I’d plan on specific QBs over the elite position players. If they are there I go QB if not I go elite position. Same with 2nd pick… if QBX is still there take him if not grab another elite position player. I would not care. It has worked for me in the past on redraft and 3 yr hold doesn’t change my mind enough. If it was yr1 dynasty I’d make sure one of the two picks was a QB.

Can you clarify - you say it has worked for you in redraft: Have you played SuperFlex redraft where you didn't pick up 2 QBs early? I just haven't seen it work more often than not and you have to really hope your late/scrub QBs work out.

The one thing this year is maybe you can get by with a Goff/Rogers/Stafford QB combo but it might not be pretty.

You really have to be savy to skip QBs in SuperFlex. Doable - maybe but I wouldn't recommend it.

Yes, I did not plan on doing it but I said if any of these guys are there and these QBs arnt there I’ll pick one instead of a QB. (This was a few years ago, sorry I can’t remember the players.) I had a late first and after the turn one of the guys I listed was still there so I took him too. I had already determined they were getting picked over the QBs in 1 so I did it in 2 also.

I picked a qb in the 3rd decent nothing special but did fine. Almost everyone had already picked 2 so I waited for QB2 figured they would fall so I continued to finish up my starters. I ended up picking more QBs as it went on but my starting lineup was as solid except QB2 but that was my fault. I had a decent pool to choose from in rd 4. I could have taken one then but it here was someone I wanted still there so I took him.

Ended the year as one of the top teams but didn’t win it. Wasn’t really the QB issue it was the position players kept getting hurt or I’d play the wrong one.