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FatMax

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The G/F and I are looking at an older home with a pool. We have an idea how much it will cost to for everything but the pool care. How much will it cost if we take care of it ourselves? Also, how much work is involved? And what about a pool service? Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated.

 
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Max, I strongly reccomend looking into converting the pool into a saline pool if it is not aloready. You will save a ton on upkeep and supllies. Not to mention it is better for you by eliminating all the chemicals a regular pool requires.

 
Saline, takes me awaaaaay to where I always heard it could be...

Oh, umm, right. Sorry.

If you keep it fresh water, figure on about $50-100 a year for chlorine tabs, maybe $30 for shock, and if you have a DE filter about $20 a year for new filter media. $30 a year for baking soda (keeps the pH and alkalinity up where they need to be). Watch the chemicals closely and you'll need very little algaecide.

As far as cleaning goes, depends on how old the liner is - older liner = more small scratched = more places for algae to start and dirt to precip out = more cleaning. Figure on an hour or so a week to vacuum it, which doesn't suck - crank up the tunes, pop open a cold one, clean the shallow end, then hamg out in the shallow end while cleaning the deep end. Or get a Kreepy Krawly robovac.

 
The G/F and I are looking at an older home with a pool. We have an idea how much it will cost to for everything but the pool care. How much will it cost if we take care of it ourselves? Also, how much work is involved? And what about a pool service? Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated.
it doesn't cost much. You can keep your pool clean and vibrant with regular Clorox bleach, arm and hammer baking soda and borax. The only time it gets expensive is if you let your pool go to pot. You have to practice regular maintenance and testing and its really cheap. It costs me much more to heat my pool than keep it clean.here's where I figured out how to do it, we bought our house 2 yrs ago and I had never had a pool and had no clue what to do:

http://www.poolsolutions.com/

 
For that size pool... Around $300 to $500 a summer.

Depending on how diligent you are it could cost you 3x's that. YOu can't ignore it for weeks at a time. A little bit everyday, keep the pump running, vacuum 1x's a week.

Not that big a deal once you get the hang of it.

 
Explain saline pools like I was raised by Christian fundamentalists.
Saltwater pools use dissolved salt (3,000-6,000 ppm) as a store for the chlorination system. The chlorinator uses electrolysis to break down the salt (NaCl) and release the chlorine into the water. The main advantage of this is that the main chemical added to the pool is salt which is harmless compared to the usual bleaching agents like chlorine. As such, a saltwater pool is not actually chlorine-free; it simply utilizes a chlorine generator instead of direct addition of chlorine.per wiki

link about salt water pools being preferable

 
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For that size pool... Around $300 to $500 a summer.

Depending on how diligent you are it could cost you 3x's that. YOu can't ignore it for weeks at a time. A little bit everyday, keep the pump running, vacuum 1x's a week.

Not that big a deal once you get the hang of it.
How much does that cost in terms of electricity? Also, how much does a pool service cost?
 
Pools are a major pain. You'll most likely regret having one.
Maybe. That's why I'm factoring this in the decision. The concept of a pool sounds great. I know I would use the heck out of it. It's all the other stuff that I don't know anything about. If it is really only takes a couple hours of work per week, I think that would be a good trade off ... but I have never had a pool and I honestly don't know.
 
For that size pool... Around $300 to $500 a summer.

Depending on how diligent you are it could cost you 3x's that. YOu can't ignore it for weeks at a time. A little bit everyday, keep the pump running, vacuum 1x's a week.

Not that big a deal once you get the hang of it.
How much does that cost in terms of electricity? Also, how much does a pool service cost?
Max for where you live in the summer you would barely have to heat the thing as its so hot there it would naturally be heated. Its in the spring/fall where it would get pricey.
 
The G/F and I are looking at an older home with a pool. We have an idea how much it will cost to for everything but the pool care. How much will it cost if we take care of it ourselves? Also, how much work is involved? And what about a pool service? Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated.
it doesn't cost much. You can keep your pool clean and vibrant with regular Clorox bleach, arm and hammer baking soda and borax. The only time it gets expensive is if you let your pool go to pot. You have to practice regular maintenance and testing and its really cheap. It costs me much more to heat my pool than keep it clean.here's where I figured out how to do it, we bought our house 2 yrs ago and I had never had a pool and had no clue what to do:

http://www.poolsolutions.com/
:lmao: And you don't need to buy Clorox bleach. Any old bleach will do so long as it's unscented. Poolsolutions board is excellent and has all the info you need. Last year was my first year with a pool and it was outstanding. Bleach to disinfect, borax to buffer, baking soda to regulate pH.Pool store sales guys are so often just selling you crap you don't need for twice the price. And they'll try to tell you that bleach will ruin your pool. They're lying to you.

 
For that size pool... Around $300 to $500 a summer.

Depending on how diligent you are it could cost you 3x's that. YOu can't ignore it for weeks at a time. A little bit everyday, keep the pump running, vacuum 1x's a week.

Not that big a deal once you get the hang of it.
How much does that cost in terms of electricity? Also, how much does a pool service cost?
Max for where you live in the summer you would barely have to heat the thing as its so hot there it would naturally be heated. Its in the spring/fall where it would get pricey.
He probably still needs to run the pump continuously. I'm guessing that cost us about $40 a month.
 
Heating the pool can run $250 / month. I leave mine chilly because I like what it does to the wife's jubblies.

In a hot summer the heat sucks chlorine out and you can run through ~$75/month in chems.

 
Alright, first of all good info on the chemicals. Another argument I get to have with my wife because I start a sentence, "well, the footballguys board said to...."

Also, not to hijack but how much are you looking at for converting a traditional fresh water inground pool to saline? And what the hell am I converting?

Furthermore, I'd like to add that I never get all the hatred for a pool as if it's this mind bogglingly expensive and time consuming venture. It's not. And I even had to get a new liner last year. Sure that was a little pricey, but for me after you get done cutting the grass on a hot summer day and you're all sweaty and dirty, it's totally worth the price being able to just fall into the pool. One of my favorite things. :D

 
Pools are a major pain. You'll most likely regret having one.
Maybe. That's why I'm factoring this in the decision. The concept of a pool sounds great. I know I would use the heck out of it. It's all the other stuff that I don't know anything about. If it is really only takes a couple hours of work per week, I think that would be a good trade off ... but I have never had a pool and I honestly don't know.
Sure their a pain, if your lazy. Do you mow your own lawn? If you do, you will spend about the same amount of time on your pool as you do your lawn. before I go any further, let me tell you that the quality of life during the summer with a pool is 10 times better than without one, especially if you have kids. Mow your lawn, get a little hot...jump in the pool! Have a party, maybe barbeque, jump in the pool! 105 degrees outside and AC isn't cutting it, jump in the pool! Man I love summer...anyhow, here's a typical routine for me and my pool. Once every day or two I test the water to check for chlorine, that takes all of 1 minute. Once every two or three weeks I vaccuum the pool, takes about 20 minutes. Once a month or so I take a water sample in to the pool store and have them analyze it, then I go somewhere else usually and buy calcium, which is usually what I need. Rarely do I need any chemical beside calcium. I run my pool on Walmart "Ultra' brand bleach, arm and hammer baking soda and Borax. I have the cleanest, most soft and odorless pool you've ever been in. The water is like velvet. You'd be surprised how little I need to do to keep my pool clean. Once a month or so I also backflush the pump, then refill with water from the hose. That's about it really. I spend virtually all of my pool money on the natural gas and electricity to heat the water and run the pump. I would estimate that at $900 per season, our season starts late may and I close the pool mid Sep. I probably spend another $100-150 per season on bleach and calcium. I've never had to use algacide, if you keep your pool clean and always have chlroine, you'll never need algaecide.All you have to do is clean the pool, get the PH up to 7.6, keep your chlorine between 1 and 5 and your set.
 
A professional pool cleaner probably costs $30-$60 a visit, depending on where you live and how often he comes. I hire one, but only because I grew up with a pool that I had to clean and maintain and grew to hate the maintenance. After this summer I plan major renovations, including installing the salt chlorine generator.

 
No need for a heater, just get a solar cover. Although it can be a pain in the ###.
Opened pool last week. Need heat, but too lazy for solar cover. Anyone try those chemical solar blankets that come in fish dispeners? Any good? Thx
 
No need for a heater, just get a solar cover. Although it can be a pain in the ###.
Opened pool last week. Need heat, but too lazy for solar cover. Anyone try those chemical solar blankets that come in fish dispeners? Any good? Thx
My neighbor also mentioned those fish dispensers yesterday. I'd also be interested from those who have experience with them.
 
No need for a heater, just get a solar cover. Although it can be a pain in the ###.
Opened pool last week. Need heat, but too lazy for solar cover. Anyone try those chemical solar blankets that come in fish dispeners? Any good? Thx
My neighbor also mentioned those fish dispensers yesterday. I'd also be interested from those who have experience with them.
What in the hell are you people talking about?
 
No need for a heater, just get a solar cover. Although it can be a pain in the ###.
Opened pool last week. Need heat, but too lazy for solar cover. Anyone try those chemical solar blankets that come in fish dispeners? Any good? Thx
My neighbor also mentioned those fish dispensers yesterday. I'd also be interested from those who have experience with them.
What in the hell are you people talking about?
Thishttp://www.poolcenter.com/solar_blankets_l...ar_poolstor.htm

I figure if it is even 50% effective and keeps me from having to drag out the solar cover, it might be worth it. But not sure if it really works. It is some chemical that creates a film on the surface of your pool that mirrors the effect (theoretically) of a solar cover.

 
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No need for a heater, just get a solar cover. Although it can be a pain in the ###.
Opened pool last week. Need heat, but too lazy for solar cover. Anyone try those chemical solar blankets that come in fish dispeners? Any good? Thx
My neighbor also mentioned those fish dispensers yesterday. I'd also be interested from those who have experience with them.
What in the hell are you people talking about?
Thishttp://www.poolcenter.com/solar_blankets_l...ar_poolstor.htm

I figure if it is even 50% effective and keeps me from having to drag out the solar cover, it might be worth it. But not sure if it really works. It is some chemical that creates a film on the surface of your pool that mirrors the effect (theoretically) of a solar cover.
Ah yes, liquid asbestos. Can't hurt. Give it a go.
 
Bumpage ...

We now own a home with a pool, and I figured I would throw this out there. It seems like I have to vacuum the thing once per week. Is that normal? I hoping that when the winds die down a bit in the summer, I won't have to do it as much, but who knows.

 
I don't understand why people vacuum their pools manually.

You have to run the filter/pump every day, right? So hook up one of these badboys and let it do the job for you.

I've tried a bunch of different types of pool cleaners and none beat this one...all kinds of things have gotten stuck in it and it just won't break...keeps on trucking. Others have way too many parts and break easily...this thing really is a marvel.

 
And I agree on the chemicals...don't buy anything from a pool store except a tester kit maybe.

Regular dollar store bleach, borax and baking soda is about all you need.

Some muriatic acid from Home Depot is a good thing to have as well...depending on how your water tests out.

It won't cost much at all...and during the summer expect to put in more bleach obviously.

I don't even heat mine in the summer...direct sunlight does a great job of heating mine up.

 
tdoss said:
I don't understand why people vacuum their pools manually.

You have to run the filter/pump every day, right? So hook up one of these badboys and let it do the job for you.

I've tried a bunch of different types of pool cleaners and none beat this one...all kinds of things have gotten stuck in it and it just won't break...keeps on trucking. Others have way too many parts and break easily...this thing really is a marvel.
The problem is that I only have one vacuum in my pool. The skimmer. So if I hook up on of those things, I can't skim. I don't know how important that is. This is my first year.
 
Got a quote last night. Thought it was a good time to shop considering off-season, economy, etc. Requested a brochure on-line and got a message on my home phone within 30 minutes. Then they called each day until I finally had time to schedule the appointment. So I think they're a bit desperate.

- 19x38 fancy curve shaped concrete pool, 3'-6'

- 3 feet of decking around perimeter

- Upgraded coping

- Upgraded tile

- "Love seat" nook in the deep end

- All plumbing, electrical and equipment (robot vac, filter system, etc.)

- Underwater lighting package

$33,000

Extras are about $600 in extra decking to meet up with the current patio and deck. $250 solar re-circulating system. And final thing is about $4,000 in fencing through their fence contractor and whatever landscaping (trees, plants, etc.) we could do ourselves.

Giving us the weekend to think about it. I'm already thinking about trying to get it down to $30,000 plus extras, or $32,000 with extras and next size up pool (20x40.) It would be the first pool in our development and I have to think that word of mouth is worth something for them. So we'll see.

 
Got a quote last night. Thought it was a good time to shop considering off-season, economy, etc. Requested a brochure on-line and got a message on my home phone within 30 minutes. Then they called each day until I finally had time to schedule the appointment. So I think they're a bit desperate.- 19x38 fancy curve shaped concrete pool, 3'-6'- 3 feet of decking around perimeter - Upgraded coping- Upgraded tile- "Love seat" nook in the deep end- All plumbing, electrical and equipment (robot vac, filter system, etc.)- Underwater lighting package$33,000Extras are about $600 in extra decking to meet up with the current patio and deck. $250 solar re-circulating system. And final thing is about $4,000 in fencing through their fence contractor and whatever landscaping (trees, plants, etc.) we could do ourselves. Giving us the weekend to think about it. I'm already thinking about trying to get it down to $30,000 plus extras, or $32,000 with extras and next size up pool (20x40.) It would be the first pool in our development and I have to think that word of mouth is worth something for them. So we'll see.
I'd go deeper than six feet on the deep end. That doesn't seem safe to dive.
 
Got a quote last night. Thought it was a good time to shop considering off-season, economy, etc. Requested a brochure on-line and got a message on my home phone within 30 minutes. Then they called each day until I finally had time to schedule the appointment. So I think they're a bit desperate.- 19x38 fancy curve shaped concrete pool, 3'-6'- 3 feet of decking around perimeter - Upgraded coping- Upgraded tile- "Love seat" nook in the deep end- All plumbing, electrical and equipment (robot vac, filter system, etc.)- Underwater lighting package$33,000Extras are about $600 in extra decking to meet up with the current patio and deck. $250 solar re-circulating system. And final thing is about $4,000 in fencing through their fence contractor and whatever landscaping (trees, plants, etc.) we could do ourselves. Giving us the weekend to think about it. I'm already thinking about trying to get it down to $30,000 plus extras, or $32,000 with extras and next size up pool (20x40.) It would be the first pool in our development and I have to think that word of mouth is worth something for them. So we'll see.
I'd go deeper than six feet on the deep end. That doesn't seem safe to dive.
No diving board (which requires 8') and want to use it for play/leisure more than anything. So don't want most of the pool to be on a slope. Safety recommendations are a minimum of 5' for jumping, 6' for "deck diving."BTW, got them down some more on the price. Signing the contract tonight.
 
Now that the weather is getting nicer, they started back up on my pool. Prior to Christmas (and the snowy season) they shot the concrete, and ran all of the plumbing. Last week they installed the pump and filter. I assume it's getting close to when they will surface the pool (after draining out all of the water from melted snow and rain, which pretty much filled it up!)

So, when should I anticipate having the fence installed? I should plan on waiting until after the concrete deck is done, right?

 
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Got a quote last night. Thought it was a good time to shop considering off-season, economy, etc. Requested a brochure on-line and got a message on my home phone within 30 minutes. Then they called each day until I finally had time to schedule the appointment. So I think they're a bit desperate.- 19x38 fancy curve shaped concrete pool, 3'-6'- 3 feet of decking around perimeter - Upgraded coping- Upgraded tile- "Love seat" nook in the deep end- All plumbing, electrical and equipment (robot vac, filter system, etc.)- Underwater lighting package$33,000Extras are about $600 in extra decking to meet up with the current patio and deck. $250 solar re-circulating system. And final thing is about $4,000 in fencing through their fence contractor and whatever landscaping (trees, plants, etc.) we could do ourselves. Giving us the weekend to think about it. I'm already thinking about trying to get it down to $30,000 plus extras, or $32,000 with extras and next size up pool (20x40.) It would be the first pool in our development and I have to think that word of mouth is worth something for them. So we'll see.
:moneybag:
 
Got a quote last night. Thought it was a good time to shop considering off-season, economy, etc. Requested a brochure on-line and got a message on my home phone within 30 minutes. Then they called each day until I finally had time to schedule the appointment. So I think they're a bit desperate.- 19x38 fancy curve shaped concrete pool, 3'-6'- 3 feet of decking around perimeter - Upgraded coping- Upgraded tile- "Love seat" nook in the deep end- All plumbing, electrical and equipment (robot vac, filter system, etc.)- Underwater lighting package$33,000Extras are about $600 in extra decking to meet up with the current patio and deck. $250 solar re-circulating system. And final thing is about $4,000 in fencing through their fence contractor and whatever landscaping (trees, plants, etc.) we could do ourselves. Giving us the weekend to think about it. I'm already thinking about trying to get it down to $30,000 plus extras, or $32,000 with extras and next size up pool (20x40.) It would be the first pool in our development and I have to think that word of mouth is worth something for them. So we'll see.
I'd go deeper than six feet on the deep end. That doesn't seem safe to dive.
No diving board (which requires 8') and want to use it for play/leisure more than anything. So don't want most of the pool to be on a slope. Safety recommendations are a minimum of 5' for jumping, 6' for "deck diving."BTW, got them down some more on the price. Signing the contract tonight.
Noid - Where do you live, and are you financing the pool? If so on a pool loan, or home equity, or home improvement loan? We recently moved and have a good sized yard for a pool. With three young kids I'm thinking a pool might be a good investment, but I don't see coming up with $30K cash.
 
Got a quote last night. Thought it was a good time to shop considering off-season, economy, etc. Requested a brochure on-line and got a message on my home phone within 30 minutes. Then they called each day until I finally had time to schedule the appointment. So I think they're a bit desperate.- 19x38 fancy curve shaped concrete pool, 3'-6'- 3 feet of decking around perimeter - Upgraded coping- Upgraded tile- "Love seat" nook in the deep end- All plumbing, electrical and equipment (robot vac, filter system, etc.)- Underwater lighting package$33,000Extras are about $600 in extra decking to meet up with the current patio and deck. $250 solar re-circulating system. And final thing is about $4,000 in fencing through their fence contractor and whatever landscaping (trees, plants, etc.) we could do ourselves. Giving us the weekend to think about it. I'm already thinking about trying to get it down to $30,000 plus extras, or $32,000 with extras and next size up pool (20x40.) It would be the first pool in our development and I have to think that word of mouth is worth something for them. So we'll see.
I'd go deeper than six feet on the deep end. That doesn't seem safe to dive.
No diving board (which requires 8') and want to use it for play/leisure more than anything. So don't want most of the pool to be on a slope. Safety recommendations are a minimum of 5' for jumping, 6' for "deck diving."BTW, got them down some more on the price. Signing the contract tonight.
Noid - Where do you live, and are you financing the pool? If so on a pool loan, or home equity, or home improvement loan? We recently moved and have a good sized yard for a pool. With three young kids I'm thinking a pool might be a good investment, but I don't see coming up with $30K cash.
Northern Delaware. About 2/3 cash and the rest from a HELOC.
 
Any thoughts on fiberglass pools? cheaper, better, avoid?
I have one. Came with the house. Seems to work OK. When you jump in, you get wet.I couldn't tell you if it is better or worse than gunnite. I have no experience in that area.
One of my clients makes fiberglass pools and they do a pretty good job explaining how although they cost more to begin with the maintenance down the way is much less. I think its worth looking into.
 
Pool's done, start-up was on Monday. Landscaping (grading, trees, mulch, river rock, pavers, topsoil, seed, etc.) wound up really being much more than I anticipated. And will probably cost me a sprinkler system now, too. But it looks really nice.

Now: pool covers. What do you guys use for in-ground pools? The pool company and the start-up company are already pestering me about getting a cover. And they're talking in the 3k range.

 
Pool's done, start-up was on Monday. Landscaping (grading, trees, mulch, river rock, pavers, topsoil, seed, etc.) wound up really being much more than I anticipated. And will probably cost me a sprinkler system now, too. But it looks really nice.
Bottom line? And pics? Still trying to convince the wife to pull the trigger on this.Sorry, no help on the cover.
 
Pool's done, start-up was on Monday. Landscaping (grading, trees, mulch, river rock, pavers, topsoil, seed, etc.) wound up really being much more than I anticipated. And will probably cost me a sprinkler system now, too. But it looks really nice.Now: pool covers. What do you guys use for in-ground pools? The pool company and the start-up company are already pestering me about getting a cover. And they're talking in the 3k range.
I don't have a cover. Or I should say, I don't have a traditional cover. We use a solar blanket in the very early and very late parts of the season to keep it a little warmer. It isn't mounted. We just fold it up and tuck it away in the garage when it isn't in use. I think it only cost about $200 or so online (16 x 32). Other than that it is coverless year round. We end up skimming/netting a lot of leaves and crap in the winter, but nothing too terrible.
 
Pool's done, start-up was on Monday. Landscaping (grading, trees, mulch, river rock, pavers, topsoil, seed, etc.) wound up really being much more than I anticipated. And will probably cost me a sprinkler system now, too. But it looks really nice.Now: pool covers. What do you guys use for in-ground pools? The pool company and the start-up company are already pestering me about getting a cover. And they're talking in the 3k range.
I don't have a cover. Or I should say, I don't have a traditional cover. We use a solar blanket in the very early and very late parts of the season to keep it a little warmer. It isn't mounted. We just fold it up and tuck it away in the garage when it isn't in use. I think it only cost about $200 or so online (16 x 32). Other than that it is coverless year round. We end up skimming/netting a lot of leaves and crap in the winter, but nothing too terrible.
A cover depends a lot on where you live. In MD we open the pool in early May and close it in Mid-October. I have to have a cover because my backyard is full of trees that would fill the pool if uncovered. If there are no trees and you can keep open longer, then I think no cover would ok.I bought the pool in the fall of '08 just as the economy was crashing badly. The same pool company quoted us $25k less than the previous year. We ended up spending about $68k for the pool, cover, colored plaster, heater, rock waterfall/groto, decking, fencing and landscaping. It was a little more than I expected but I actually thought we did pretty well considering my sister bought a pool in the summer of '07 and paid about $25k more than me for way less pool and accessories.
 

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