T.O. figures to play 3-5 more years (1 Viewer)

[Ice Cream Man]

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives...the-future.html

 

[B Maverick]

Do you think he can keep up the production for 3-5 years?

80 catches for 1200 yards, 12 tds... rough ave.

 

[big country]

Do you think he can keep up the production for 3-5 years?80 catches for 1200 yards, 12 tds... rough ave.

yes, physically hes still 25

 

[jurb26]

Do you think he can keep up the production for 3-5 years?80 catches for 1200 yards, 12 tds... rough ave.

yes, physically hes still 25

You mean emotionally and mentally he is still 15, right.

 

[lynx4ben]

Do you think he can keep up the production for 3-5 years?80 catches for 1200 yards, 12 tds... rough ave.

yes, physically hes still 25

You mean emotionally and mentally he is still 15, right.

 

[Slinger]

Every player who's getting up there in age says this. Fluff Piece.

 

[lynx4ben]

Every player who's getting up there in age says this. Fluff Piece.

Except for LT2 and Brett Favre.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I see no reason he can't do this for 3 more years. 5 more years may be pushing it, but if I had to pick one WR today who I thought could play at an elite level to age 39 or 40....TO would be probably the first name I'd come up with.

 

[Banger]

he looks as good as ever. He's still unstoppable, plays on a good offense on a good team. As long as he can stay healthy he can play 3 more years at a high level, 5 probably not.

 

[hankey2mlh]

he looks as good as ever. He's still unstoppable, plays on a good offense on a good team. As long as he can stay healthy he can play 3 more years at a high level, 5 probably not.

Keep in mind that everybody was saying the same thing about Marvin Harrison just a year ago...

 

[Bojang0301]

he looks as good as ever. He's still unstoppable, plays on a good offense on a good team. As long as he can stay healthy he can play 3 more years at a high level, 5 probably not.

Keep in mind that everybody was saying the same thing about Marvin Harrison just a year ago...

As much as I like Marvin with his size it had to come and he still might not be done just yet. TO is one of the most well kept athletes physically even if not so mentally. I think he'll last longer than chicken arms/legs Moss.

 

[Slider]

TO has a work ethic to rival Rice. Marvin is a student of the game but I don't think he's on their level. A high level but not their's. I'd easily give TO 3 and wouldn't bet against 5 body wise. Head is a different story.

 

[hankey2mlh]

he looks as good as ever. He's still unstoppable, plays on a good offense on a good team. As long as he can stay healthy he can play 3 more years at a high level, 5 probably not.

Keep in mind that everybody was saying the same thing about Marvin Harrison just a year ago...

As much as I like Marvin with his size it had to come and he still might not be done just yet.

Harrison was believed to be productive a few more years because of his habit to avoid big hits by running out of bounds and sliding to the ground. I am pretty optimistic that TO can stay productive for a while, but you just can never know. Getting up in age undoubtedly makes you more susceptible to injuries - and that includes well-conditioned athletes like TO. That's why I wouldn't invest a high dynasty pick in Owens.

 

[-OZ-]

TO has a work ethic to rival Rice. Marvin is a student of the game but I don't think he's on their level. A high level but not their's. I'd easily give TO 3 and wouldn't bet against 5 body wise. Head is a different story.

Marvin's work ethic is also extremely good, he's just not as much a physical specimen. It always seemed to me that his football IQ made him as good as he was (not to mention Peyton), TO relies on his physical skills, which is a concern, but he also has perhaps the most intense physical regimen since Herschel Walker.

 

[ClownDogs]

I had Marvin a couple years ago and people were not interested in him cause he was getting old, that was at least 3 years ago, people started saying that about TO last year, so I think he has 2 more years at top level before the decline starts.

 

[Summer Wheat]

TO has a work ethic to rival Rice. Marvin is a student of the game but I don't think he's on their level. A high level but not their's. I'd easily give TO 3 and wouldn't bet against 5 body wise. Head is a different story.

Body wise I would bet against TO. Owens always seems to have that groin and lower ab problem, plus he has been hurt quite a bit the last 3-4 years. WRs grow old fast in this league.

 

[Sweet Love]

TO has a work ethic to rival Rice. Marvin is a student of the game but I don't think he's on their level. A high level but not their's. I'd easily give TO 3 and wouldn't bet against 5 body wise. Head is a different story.

Body wise I would bet against TO. Owens always seems to have that groin and lower ab problem, plus he has been hurt quite a bit the last 3-4 years. WRs grow old fast in this league.

Yeah, I agree. He is pretty big and I can see that body breaking down. I also feel everyone assumes he will remain with Dallas, but if they decide to jettison him due to a drop in play or the financial commitment he will be looking for next year (I believe his contract is up after this season, God knows where he will end up and if it is a place that is not doing well, I would not be surprised to see him hang 'em up.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Do you think he can keep up the production for 3-5 years?80 catches for 1200 yards, 12 tds... rough ave.

No, as a Dallas fan if you told me I could take that for the next 2 years and that's it, I'd say that's a deal.

 

[redman]

Every player who's getting up there in age says this. Fluff Piece.

I wonder what Marvin Harrison would have said in this regard one year ago.

 

[Jason Wood]

I always go back to something I heard Eric Dickerson say about injuries. As you get older, it's not that you're necessarily more prone to getting hurt. But he found that his ability to bounce back from injury was much, much more difficult as he got into his 30s. His point wasn't about the cumulative effects of injury, but rather the natural aging process and your bodies struggle to remain at a physical peak nature didn't intend.

As for Owens, I'm never going to bank on anyone playing at a HOF level at 38-39 years old. But Owens could "play" for five more years pretty easily actually. Hate him or love him, the guy is in ridiculous shape and has a history of bouncing back from injury much faster than most athletes. He also plays a position where he takes less of a pounding (comparatively).

On a related note, this is a pretty big year for TO in terms of statistical achievement. He should end the season 2nd all-time in receiving TDs and 5th all-time in receiving yards.

 

[Banger]

Every player who's getting up there in age says this. Fluff Piece.

I wonder what Marvin Harrison would have said in this regard one year ago.

Players get injured, Holt, Hackett, J. Walker, and on and on. People have been predicting Harrison's demise for years and over the past few years he's been the #1, #9, and #4 wr. I'd happily take my chances on a proven commodity like Owens that has shown no signs of slowing.

 

[redman]

Every player who's getting up there in age says this. Fluff Piece.

I wonder what Marvin Harrison would have said in this regard one year ago.

Players get injured, Holt, Hackett, J. Walker, and on and on. People have been predicting Harrison's demise for years and over the past few years he's been the #1, #9, and #4 wr. I'd happily take my chances on a proven commodity like Owens that has shown no signs of slowing.

The point is that these guys tend to hit the proverbial wall, with little warning beforehand. Also, you can't accurately predict when that's going to happen. I agree that TO is always in tremendous shape and won't break down due to faulty conditioning. The problem is that you don't know whether his back will give or his legs will leave him this year, or four years from now. Depending upon whether your team is contending for a championship this year, you should consider selling high on a guy like that. The guy's going to be 35 by the end of the season.

 

[Phurfur]

TO has a work ethic to rival Rice. Marvin is a student of the game but I don't think he's on their level. A high level but not their's. I'd easily give TO 3 and wouldn't bet against 5 body wise. Head is a different story.

Body wise I would bet against TO. Owens always seems to have that groin and lower ab problem, plus he has been hurt quite a bit the last 3-4 years. WRs grow old fast in this league.

TO has played 16 games in 2 out of the last 9 seasons. The little things might catch up with him.

 

[Banger]

TO has a work ethic to rival Rice. Marvin is a student of the game but I don't think he's on their level. A high level but not their's. I'd easily give TO 3 and wouldn't bet against 5 body wise. Head is a different story.

Body wise I would bet against TO. Owens always seems to have that groin and lower ab problem, plus he has been hurt quite a bit the last 3-4 years. WRs grow old fast in this league.

TO has played 16 games in 2 out of the last 9 seasons. The little things might catch up with him.

yet he's finished 47th, 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 12th, 4th, 32nd (when the Eagles shut him down), 2nd and 2nd (average of 11.77). R. Moss who is the only one comparable over the same period has an average of 12th even though he's played 16 games in 7 of the 9 seasons.

 

[Christo]

Every player who's getting up there in age says this. Fluff Piece.

I wonder what Marvin Harrison would have said in this regard one year ago.

He probably would have said a football player could injure his knee whatever his age.

 

[Ice Cream Man]

I think one difference between Harrison and Owens that hasn't been noted explicitly is ambition. Owens has it in spades. Call it selfish or whatever, but there's something about him that tells you he wants to play at all costs. Part of that, of course, is reflected in his conditioning. In some ways, he reminds me of Rickey Henderson who played till he was 45 -- his love for the game and for personal accomplishments drove him to play far longer than any expected. I think Owens will play for 4 or 5 years, and perhaps 2 more at a top10 level.

 

[Phurfur]

I think one difference between Harrison and Owens that hasn't been noted explicitly is ambition. Owens has it in spades. Call it selfish or whatever, but there's something about him that tells you he wants to play at all costs. Part of that, of course, is reflected in his conditioning. In some ways, he reminds me of Rickey Henderson who played till he was 45 -- his love for the game and for personal accomplishments drove him to play far longer than any expected. I think Owens will play for 4 or 5 years, and perhaps 2 more at a top10 level.

He didn't show that his last year in Philly.

 

[Phurfur]

TO has a work ethic to rival Rice. Marvin is a student of the game but I don't think he's on their level. A high level but not their's. I'd easily give TO 3 and wouldn't bet against 5 body wise. Head is a different story.

Body wise I would bet against TO. Owens always seems to have that groin and lower ab problem, plus he has been hurt quite a bit the last 3-4 years. WRs grow old fast in this league.

TO has played 16 games in 2 out of the last 9 seasons. The little things might catch up with him.

yet he's finished 47th, 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 12th, 4th, 32nd (when the Eagles shut him down), 2nd and 2nd (average of 11.77). R. Moss who is the only one comparable over the same period has an average of 12th even though he's played 16 games in 7 of the 9 seasons.

Settle down, all I said was "The little things might catch up with him". I never mentioned production or Randy Moss.

 

[zoonation]

I always go back to something I heard Eric Dickerson say about injuries. As you get older, it's not that you're necessarily more prone to getting hurt. But he found that his ability to bounce back from injury was much, much more difficult as he got into his 30s. His point wasn't about the cumulative effects of injury, but rather the natural aging process and your bodies struggle to remain at a physical peak nature didn't intend.As for Owens, I'm never going to bank on anyone playing at a HOF level at 38-39 years old. But Owens could "play" for five more years pretty easily actually. Hate him or love him, the guy is in ridiculous shape and has a history of bouncing back from injury much faster than most athletes. He also plays a position where he takes less of a pounding (comparatively).On a related note, this is a pretty big year for TO in terms of statistical achievement. He should end the season 2nd all-time in receiving TDs and 5th all-time in receiving yards.

Yet most people refuse to admit the guy is a lock for the HOF right now. Regardless of his "headspace" issues, the numbers are so overwhelming that the Hall would turn into a "Clubhouse" if he doesn't get in on the first ballot.I'm going to do a poll...watch how overwhelming it will be against him getting in.

 

[Banger]

TO has a work ethic to rival Rice. Marvin is a student of the game but I don't think he's on their level. A high level but not their's. I'd easily give TO 3 and wouldn't bet against 5 body wise. Head is a different story.

Body wise I would bet against TO. Owens always seems to have that groin and lower ab problem, plus he has been hurt quite a bit the last 3-4 years. WRs grow old fast in this league.

TO has played 16 games in 2 out of the last 9 seasons. The little things might catch up with him.

yet he's finished 47th, 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 12th, 4th, 32nd (when the Eagles shut him down), 2nd and 2nd (average of 11.77). R. Moss who is the only one comparable over the same period has an average of 12th even though he's played 16 games in 7 of the 9 seasons.

Settle down, all I said was "The little things might catch up with him". I never mentioned production or Randy Moss.

I'm settled. I'm just pointing out how he produced over the time period you mentioned to give some context to the fact while he may have missed a game or two here or there that he's been perhaps the most elite player in the game over that span you selected.

 

[Ice Cream Man]

I think one difference between Harrison and Owens that hasn't been noted explicitly is ambition. Owens has it in spades. Call it selfish or whatever, but there's something about him that tells you he wants to play at all costs. Part of that, of course, is reflected in his conditioning. In some ways, he reminds me of Rickey Henderson who played till he was 45 -- his love for the game and for personal accomplishments drove him to play far longer than any expected. I think Owens will play for 4 or 5 years, and perhaps 2 more at a top10 level.

He didn't show that his last year in Philly.

Yeah, I suppose rather than accept the suspension he could have fought his way on the field.. He was the best WR in the league at the time of his suspension.