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Tarantino's original cast wish list for Pulp Fiction is wild. Who would you have cast from the list? (1 Viewer)

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Saw this online yesterday, it's Tarantino's original cast wish list for Pulp Fiction.

Some interesting names here. Pretty crazy that Uma Thurman and Bruce Willis weren't even on the list for their characters. Also, Michael Madsen played Vic Vega (aka Mr Blonde) in Resevoir Dogs, so I wonder if the character name would have ended up Vic instead of Vincent in Pulp had Madsen taken the role.

Lets play casting director. Who would you have cast or liked to see in these roles from this list? Devito as the Wolf? Eddie Murphy as Jules? 😯

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Original cast wish list for Pulp Fiction
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*** First Choice
** Second Choice
* Strong Possibility

JULES WINFIELD
Larry Fishburn***
wrote part for Larry
Possibilities if Larry can’t do it:
Sam Jackson**
Eddie Murphy**
Charles Dutton*
Michael Beach
Unknown if necessary.
No Rappers. <--- 😄

VINCENT VEGA
Michael Madsen***
Wrote part for Michael
Possibilities if Michael can't do it:
John Travolta (strong, strong, strong, strong second choice)**
Alec Baldwin*
Gary Oldman*
William Petersen
Jason Patric
Andy Garcia
Michael Keaton*
Denzel Washington
Dennis Quaid
Robert Carradine
Aidan Quinn

MIA WALLACE
Virginia Madsen*
Marisa Tomei
Patricia Arquette
Alfre Woodard*
Jennifer Beals*
Pam Grier*
Phoebe Cates
Bridgit Fonda*
N’Bussia Wright
Jasmine Guy
Angela Bassett*
Annette O’Toole
Debra Winger
Robin Wright
Cynda Williams
Meg Tilly

THE WOLF
Harvey Keitel***
Wrote part for Harvey, if unavailable other possibilities:
Warren Beatty
Al Pacino
Danny De Vito
Sam Jackson
Alec Baldwin
Michael Keaton
John Travolta
Christopher Walken
Michael Parks
Charles Dutton

MARCELLUS WALLACE
Ving Rames***
Sam Jackson***
Charles Dutton***
Ken Foree
Sid Haig
James Inglehart
Jim Brown
Bernie Casey
Carl Weathers
Roger E. Mosely
Max Julian
Tony Todd
John D. Black
Bill Duke
Delroy Lindo

BUTCH
Matt Dillon***
Wrote part for Matt, if he’s not available:
Sean Penn
Nick Cage
Aidan Quinn
Johnny Depp

CAPT  KOONS
Christopher Walken***
Sean Penn
Tommy Lee Jones
Michael Parks
William Devane
Sam Jackson
Charles Dutton
Robert De Niro
William Petersen
Al Pacino

PUMPKIN
Tim Roth***
written for Tim
Possibilities if Tim can't do it:
Johnny Depp**
Christian Slater
Gary Oldman
Nick Cage
Eric Stolz
John Cusack

HONEY BUNNY
Amanda Plummer***
written for Amanda
Possibilities if Amanda can’t do it:
Patricia Arquette*
Lili Taylor*
Jennifer Jason Leigh
Bridgit Fonda
Phoebe Cates
Marisa Tomei

LANCE
John Cusack***
Eric Stolz***
Wrote part for John, if John can't do it I want Eric. After Eric, other possibilities:
Michael Keaton
Christian Slater*
Gary Oldman*
Robert Carradine*
Bill Paxton
Johnny Depp
Nick Cage*
Sam Jackson
Eric Roberts

JODY (Open)
Patricia Arquette*
Bridgit Fonda*
Jennifer Beals*
Pam Grier*
N’Busia Wright
Cathy Griffin*
Angel Aviles*
Sofia Coppola
Jasmine Guy
Trya Farrell
Lili Taylor
Jennifer Jason Leigh

FABIAN
Irene Jacob***
Maria de Mederious
Julie Delpy
Elena Lowenstine

Had he got his 1st choices, this would have been the cast:

Jules Winfield: Lawrence Fishburn
Vincent Vega: Michael Madsen
Mia Wallace: one of (Virginia Madsen, Alfre Woodard, Jennifer Beals, Pam Grier, Bridgit Fonda, Angela Bassett)
Butch: Matt Dillon
Lance: John Cusak
Marcellus Wallace: Ving Rhames
The Wolf: Harvey Keitel
Capt Koons: Christopher Walken
Pumpkin: Tim Roth
Honey Bunny: Amanda Plummer
Jody: Patricia Arquette
Fabian: Irene Jacob

Give us your best cast from the list.
 
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It just isn’t Pulp Fiction without Travolta and Jackson. I heard that Fishburne had become dissatisfied with the roles he was getting and hired a new agency. He told them he wanted to be a star, he wanted to be Denzel. He was very excited that QT wanted him for this movie. He loved Reservoir Dogs and thought this was an amazing role. His new agency told him he had to say no. They said Denzel doesn’t make ensemble movies. If Denzel is in a movie, it’s a Denzel movie. If you want to be a star you can’t take supporting roles. So he turned it down for some very unmemorable leading roles. The irony of course is that this supporting role made Sam Jackson into an unlikely bankable Hollywood lead for like 10 years.
 
Bruce Willis' story is interesting too.

Tarantino explains

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Ultimately, casting Willis helped Tarantino get financing for the movie since he was a huge, bankable star at the time.
 
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I can’t really imagine it with Madsen instead of Travolta. With Madsen, you see him as a tough guy from Reservoir Dogs. Travolta works because he’s just coming off Looking Who’s Talking Too or whatever, and can play it as more of a doofus.
 
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wait, so he wanted Madsen to play BOTH vega brothers? or was pulp fiction originally written for vic and he switched it to vincent when madsen didn't play it?
 
bryhamm said:
wait, so he wanted Madsen to play BOTH vega brothers? or was pulp fiction originally written for vic and he switched it to vincent when madsen didn't play it?
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That was my question as well. I imagine he would have played Vic but since he didnt/couldn't do it, QT changed it to Vincent. All speculation of course.
 
I really wish a Vega Brothers movie would've been made with Madsen and Travolta, it's a shame it never materialized.

It could've had the Scagnetti angle too, with Tom Sizemore playing twin brothers Jack (a detective in Narural born Killers) and Seymore (Vic's parole officer in Res Dogs)
 
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If forced to choose new faces:


JULES WINFIELD
Larry Fishburn***

VINCENT VEGA
Michael Keaton*

MIA WALLACE
Robin Wright

THE WOLF
Warren Beatty

MARCELLUS WALLACE
Tony Todd

BUTCH
Matt Dillon***

CAPT  KOONS
Sean Penn

PUMPKIN
John Cusack

HONEY BUNNY
Marisa Tomei

LANCE
Bill Paxton

JODY (Open)
Jennifer Jason Leigh

Man, give me Bill Paxton as Lance all day long
 
Ilov80s said:
Biggest casting mistake QT ever made was Eli Roth as The Bear Jew. Should have been Sandler like he wanted.
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Yeah, if Im Sandler, I make it work somehow, although QT wasn't established as a heavy hitter at that time.

Another interesting note...The Knack's My Sharona was QTs 1st choice for music for the sodomy scene, but it was being used in Reallity Bites and licensing exclusivity prevented it from being used...also, one of the band members who is very religious didn't want it used in a scene with sexual violence. Later, QT said that the song would've been "too cutely comic" for the scene anyway and Comanche, the song that was ultimately used, was a much better fit.
 
Ilov80s said:
I heard that Fishburne had become dissatisfied with the roles he was getting and hired a new agency. He told them he wanted to be a star, he wanted to be Denzel. He was very excited that QT wanted him for this movie. He loved Reservoir Dogs and thought this was an amazing role. His new agency told him he had to say no. They said Denzel doesn’t make ensemble movies. If Denzel is in a movie, it’s a Denzel movie. If you want to be a star you can’t take supporting roles. So he turned it down for some very unmemorable leading roles
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That is dreadful advice. Fishburne proved his agency wrong by doing "Boyz N The Hood", and "What's Love Got To Do With It". Both were ensemble movies and he was great in both.

Jon Hamm had a similar experience with getting cast in "Maverick". His agent told him to refuse the part because it was small, cliched and was the antagonist to Tom Cruise. Hamm was a teenager when the original came out and it made him want to become an actor. He told his agency to get him the role no matter how small or what he was paid or else they were all immediately fired.
 
Encyclopedia Brown said:
That is dreadful advice. Fishburne proved his agency wrong by doing "Boyz N The Hood", and "What's Love Got To Do With It". Both were ensemble movies and he was great in both.
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Those were both before Pulp and probably what he was trying break away from. It ended up being bad advice but he is the one who hired the team with the goal of making him a leading man.
 
Major said:
Wingnut said:
although QT wasn't established as a heavy hitter at that time
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He was well established before Inglorious. Ever since Pulp, QT has been that director you want to work for.
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Yeah, my bad, I was thinking IB but was still in Pulp Fiction timeline.

So yeah, if I'm Sandler I make it work. If QT writes a part specifically for you, you take it.
 
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Wingnut said:
Major said:
Wingnut said:
although QT wasn't established as a heavy hitter at that time
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He was well established before Inglorious. Ever since Pulp, QT has been that director you want to work for.
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Yeah, my bad, I was thinking IG but was still in Pulp Fiction timeline.

So yeah, if I'm Sandler I make it work. If QT writes a part specifically for you, you take it.
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Seriously. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a poor performance in a QT film.
 
Wingnut said:
bryhamm said:
wait, so he wanted Madsen to play BOTH vega brothers? or was pulp fiction originally written for vic and he switched it to vincent when madsen didn't play it?
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That was my question as well. I imagine he would have played Vic but since he didnt/couldn't do it, QT changed it to Vincent. All speculation of course.
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At some point, very, very, very early in QT's life, back in his video-store-clerk days, IIRC the original idea was one huge story of The Briefcase as the ultimate Hollywood MacGuffin, and following it through multiple stories that became True Romance, Reservoir Dogs, and then Pulp Fiction.

Quentin at some point broke off the story into those three distinct parts. He sold the screenplay for True Romance in order to get the funding to make Reservoir Dogs independently as his own film as director, which then got him the studio backing to make Pulp Fiction.

So yes I believe the Story of the Briefcase would have had Madsen's Vic carry it through into Pulp Fiction but when the stories were broken up the design of the plot made it a different Vega, and when Madsen didn't do PF, they figured might as well change the name to his brother.
 
I would LOVE to see the film remade with everyone the same, but with Michael Keaton as Vincent. I think that would be amazing.

eta nothing against the performance of Travolta. He did a spectacular job.
 
Wingnut said:
So yeah, if I'm Sandler I make it work. If QT writes a part specifically for you, you take it.
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Maybe there was a scheduling conflict that Sandler could not work around?

That was the period where he was cranking out a movie every single year, and he also went out on the road with his band and did stand-up every once in awhile.
 
Encyclopedia Brown said:
Wingnut said:
So yeah, if I'm Sandler I make it work. If QT writes a part specifically for you, you take it.
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Maybe there was a scheduling conflict that Sandler could not work around?

That was the period where he was cranking out a movie every single year, and he also went out on the road with his band and did stand-up every once in awhile.
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Yeah, the conflict was with his Funny People schedule. But if Tarantino writes a part for me and I have Sandler money, I'm finding a way to make it happen.

Around the time Sandler turned it down, I remember hearing the character just wasn't one he wanted to play, and like you said, maybe he was just too busy and didn't think he needed it 🤷‍♂️
 
Hastur said:
I would LOVE to see the film remade with everyone the same, but with Michael Keaton as Vincent. I think that would be amazing.

eta nothing against the performance of Travolta. He did a spectacular job.
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My "maybe, just maybe, it'll happen in my lifetime?" dream is that AI gets advanced enough where I could just give it a finished movie, like Pulp Fiction, then, give it video of everything Michael Keaton was ever in, and then tell the AI to spit back out Pulp Fiction with Keaton in it doing the part with Keaton's quirks and mannerisms. (The #1, for me personally, would be to have AI de-construct the "Galaxy Quest" script to the bare bones references to the original Star Trek, and then have AI put William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Nichelle Nichols, etc. in the movie as themselves.)
 
Runkle said:
Hastur said:
I would LOVE to see the film remade with everyone the same, but with Michael Keaton as Vincent. I think that would be amazing.

eta nothing against the performance of Travolta. He did a spectacular job.
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My "maybe, just maybe, it'll happen in my lifetime?" dream is that AI gets advanced enough where I could just give it a finished movie, like Pulp Fiction, then, give it video of everything Michael Keaton was ever in, and then tell the AI to spit back out Pulp Fiction with Keaton in it doing the part with Keaton's quirks and mannerisms. (The #1, for me personally, would be to have AI de-construct the "Galaxy Quest" script to the bare bones references to the original Star Trek, and then have AI put William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Nichelle Nichols, etc. in the movie as themselves.)
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I agree with this post so hard, I got a nosebleed.
 
Wingnut said:
Give us your best cast from the list.
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JULES WINFIELD Sam Jackson**
Sam was a working actor, but this role MADE Sam Jackson.
I can't see anyone else improving on what he did, and he made an iconic character.
VINCENT VEGA Alec Baldwin*
Check out Baldwin in Miami Blues that was made right before Pulp. He had the requisite violence and edge to play Vincent Vega and he was in 'the zone' at the time of Pulp. He would have been fantastic in the role.
MIA WALLACE Angela Bassett*
Complete CRUSH on Angela Bassett and would love to see her in EVERYTHING at that time. OMG I just love her.
THE WOLF John Travolta
Yeah, Travolta made the role of Vega but the Wolf was one of the 'weakest' characters of Pulp and I think John would have added 'something' and made it stand out.
MARCELLUS WALLACE Jim Brown
I can completely see Jim Brown as Marcellus. That would have been FUN.
BUTCH Matt Dillon***
Yeah, I get what Tarantino's vision of Matt Dillion in the role.
CAPT  KOONS Robert De Niro
I cringe at the Capt Koons scene because IMHO, it's childish and made for 12 old boy mentality. De Niro would help.
PUMPKIN John Cusack
Roth did a great job, but I can see a manic and disheveled Cusack in that diner booth.
HONEY BUNNY Amanda Plummer***
No one, and I mean NO ONE could have improved what Mandy did in Pulp. She crushed it.
LANCE Eric Stolz***
Think about red head actors and the list is sparce. Eric stood out in a good way in Pulp. Really unique and he was excellent. No change.
JODY (Open) Jennifer Jason Leigh
She BLEW ME AWAY in Dorthy Parker and the Vicious Circle made right about this time. I don't understand how she didn't become a massive star. She absolutely had the goods to go stratospheric.
I would have loved to see her in everything at that time.
FABIAN Julie Delpy
Another massive crush and she was in a fantastic movie that I loved called Europa Europa. Gorgeous beyond belief and quite frankly, the girl who played Fabian was 'lacking' IMHO. Delpy would have been memorable.
 
Bracie Smathers said:
Wingnut said:
Give us your best cast from the list.
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THE WOLF John Travolta
Yeah, Travolta made the role of Vega but the Wolf was one of the 'weakest' characters of Pulp and I think John would have added 'something' and made it stand out.
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whoa, that is a hot take because Harvey absolutely killed the role to the point I would call it a perfect performance
 
fruity pebbles said:
I didn’t think there was a weak link in Pulp but if I was to pick someone it’s Willis as Butch. A little too much Bruce being himself. I think Dillon elevates that role.
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This is probably the only role I'd change. I love Bruce Willis, but he only plays Bruce Willis. In a movie where even Travolta plays a character and does it well.... this just didn't fit IMO. Although, he was the big name the studio required in order to produce it so..... :shrug:
 
One of the reasons Bruce Willis got the role in "Pulp Fiction" was because of his athleticism. He could pull it off. He had done many of his own stunts in the "Die Hard" flicks, and looked the part of a roughed up older boxer.

It's how Woody Harrelson got cast in "White Men Can't Jump". He was on no one's list for the part, and his TV character certainly worked against him, but Ron Shelton had an open casting call where the actors did not do any line reading but instead played on the LA basketball courts. Woody turned out to be an excellent baller.
 
CGRdrJoe said:
whoa, that is a hot take because Harvey absolutely killed the role to the point I would call it a perfect performance
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The reason why Tarantino became who he is now is because of Keitel. Harvey got the script for Reservoir Dogs and decided to take the role IF he was the producer and partial financier. Keitel was also the biggest star of the movie at the time so it would never have gotten green lit if it wasn't for his cachet. Basically, Tarantino owed Harvey BIGTIME and bent over backwards to shoehorn in his character into Pulp to pay homage.
It is a superfluous character that adds NOTHING to the story. I mean, if you shoot someone and have a bloody car do you REALLY NEED someone to tell you to clean up the car? How many cleaners are sitting around pools at 8:00 AM in full tuxedos? It is just baaaaaad writing but IMHO Keitel's line delivery isn't very good. His 'best line' is him nodding while sipping coffee with approval, but the rest of his lines fall flat IMHO.
The Wolf wasn't needed. If that character was cut the movie still works. It was a ham-fisted way to work Keitel into the script, and it simply is bad writing.
 
Mr. Mojo said:
Anyone other than Amanda Plummer as Honey Bunny would have been an improvement.
I just don't like her in anything.
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Just disagree.
Back in the day there was a movie that got a lot of buzz because it was based on a famous book that everyone was on everyone's top seller list, The World According to Garp by John Irving. When the movie was made, it was a media frenzy. It starred Robin Williams and I really can't recommend it since it was a movie of its time. Plummer had a memorable bit role completely opposite of Huny Bunny in Pulp.
It was the sort of role that got her noticed and quite frankly when you think of Pulp, the opening and Plummer's freeze frame voice over with the **** Dale's guitar BLAM from Misirlou is what flashes in most people's minds. Classic and wouldn't change a beat.
 
Bracie Smathers said:
Wingnut said:
Give us your best cast from the list.
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JULES WINFIELD Sam Jackson**
Sam was a working actor, but this role MADE Sam Jackson.
I can't see anyone else improving on what he did, and he made an iconic character.
VINCENT VEGA Alec Baldwin*
Check out Baldwin in Miami Blues that was made right before Pulp. He had the requisite violence and edge to play Vincent Vega and he was in 'the zone' at the time of Pulp. He would have been fantastic in the role.
MIA WALLACE Angela Bassett*
Complete CRUSH on Angela Bassett and would love to see her in EVERYTHING at that time. OMG I just love her.
THE WOLF John Travolta
Yeah, Travolta made the role of Vega but the Wolf was one of the 'weakest' characters of Pulp and I think John would have added 'something' and made it stand out.
MARCELLUS WALLACE Jim Brown
I can completely see Jim Brown as Marcellus. That would have been FUN.
BUTCH Matt Dillon***
Yeah, I get what Tarantino's vision of Matt Dillion in the role.
CAPT  KOONS Robert De Niro
I cringe at the Capt Koons scene because IMHO, it's childish and made for 12 old boy mentality. De Niro would help.
PUMPKIN John Cusack
Roth did a great job, but I can see a manic and disheveled Cusack in that diner booth.
HONEY BUNNY Amanda Plummer***
No one, and I mean NO ONE could have improved what Mandy did in Pulp. She crushed it.
LANCE Eric Stolz***
Think about red head actors and the list is sparce. Eric stood out in a good way in Pulp. Really unique and he was excellent. No change.
JODY (Open) Jennifer Jason Leigh
She BLEW ME AWAY in Dorthy Parker and the Vicious Circle made right about this time. I don't understand how she didn't become a massive star. She absolutely had the goods to go stratospheric.
I would have loved to see her in everything at that time.
FABIAN Julie Delpy
Another massive crush and she was in a fantastic movie that I loved called Europa Europa. Gorgeous beyond belief and quite frankly, the girl who played Fabian was 'lacking' IMHO. Delpy would have been memorable.
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Koons and The Wolf were perfect. I'm glad you never quit your day job to become a Casting Director ;)
 
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Quinton is incredibly talented but he ain't perfect.
Tarantino has a cult following that thinks he can do no wrong but...
When Quint made Reservoir he had zero experience as a director and stole the shot sequence from this film.
A comparison of Quentin Tarantino's Reservoir Dogs and Ringo Lam's City on Fire
He worked in a video store and rented out this movie multiple times studying the shots that he used. Tarantino has denied it, but it is obvious that he stole Ringo Lam's shots and basic story line. Tarantino has said he based the story/style off of Stanley Kubrick's The Killers and that is true to a point, but he's never confessed how much he stole from this film.
 
cosjobs said:
Mr. Mojo said:
Anyone other than Amanda Plummer as Honey Bunny would have been an improvement.
I just don't like her in anything.
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My mom thought that any actor that provokes such a reaction is a truly great actor.
I think there's something to that pov.
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She has the female version of menace. While the other actresses on QTs list are/were fine at their craft, none of them, not even Jennifer Jason Leigh, brings the unhinged the way Amanda Plummer does.
 
Uruk-Hai said:
Ilov80s said:
If Denzel is in a movie, it’s a Denzel movie.
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Was that true in the early '90s, though? He may have been the best actor in several of the films he made at the time, but he wasn't the sole headliner in any of his biggest movies.
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Denzel had already made and was the clear guy on the poster lead in Malcolm X, Ricochet, Mo Better Blues. He was sharing top billing with A List red hot Julia Roberts and Tom Hanks in The Pelican Brief and Philadelphia. So those were a big step up from ensemble piece where you do most of your scenes with Michael Madsen as your equal.
 
Bracie Smathers said:
CGRdrJoe said:
whoa, that is a hot take because Harvey absolutely killed the role to the point I would call it a perfect performance
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The reason why Tarantino became who he is now is because of Keitel. Harvey got the script for Reservoir Dogs and decided to take the role IF he was the producer and partial financier. Keitel was also the biggest star of the movie at the time so it would never have gotten green lit if it wasn't for his cachet. Basically, Tarantino owed Harvey BIGTIME and bent over backwards to shoehorn in his character into Pulp to pay homage.
It is a superfluous character that adds NOTHING to the story. I mean, if you shoot someone and have a bloody car do you REALLY NEED someone to tell you to clean up the car? How many cleaners are sitting around pools at 8:00 AM in full tuxedos? It is just baaaaaad writing but IMHO Keitel's line delivery isn't very good. His 'best line' is him nodding while sipping coffee with approval, but the rest of his lines fall flat IMHO.
The Wolf wasn't needed. If that character was cut the movie still works. It was a ham-fisted way to work Keitel into the script, and it simply is bad writing.
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Hey, we agree on something! That is my least favorite scene for those reasons and QT "acting" in it. Two bad dudes like Vince and Jules need to have their hands held like that to clean up Marvin?
 
KarmaPolice said:
Bracie Smathers said:
CGRdrJoe said:
whoa, that is a hot take because Harvey absolutely killed the role to the point I would call it a perfect performance
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The reason why Tarantino became who he is now is because of Keitel. Harvey got the script for Reservoir Dogs and decided to take the role IF he was the producer and partial financier. Keitel was also the biggest star of the movie at the time so it would never have gotten green lit if it wasn't for his cachet. Basically, Tarantino owed Harvey BIGTIME and bent over backwards to shoehorn in his character into Pulp to pay homage.
It is a superfluous character that adds NOTHING to the story. I mean, if you shoot someone and have a bloody car do you REALLY NEED someone to tell you to clean up the car? How many cleaners are sitting around pools at 8:00 AM in full tuxedos? It is just baaaaaad writing but IMHO Keitel's line delivery isn't very good. His 'best line' is him nodding while sipping coffee with approval, but the rest of his lines fall flat IMHO.
The Wolf wasn't needed. If that character was cut the movie still works. It was a ham-fisted way to work Keitel into the script, and it simply is bad writing.
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Hey, we agree on something! That is my least favorite scene for those reasons and QT "acting" in it. Two bad dudes like Vince and Jules need to have their hands held like that to clean up Marvin?
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He did more than tell them to clean the car. He paid Jimmy for his trouble and, I assume, to keep him quiet. He arranged the disposal of the car with the body in the trunk.

I'm not sure Vincent was a bad dude.
 
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