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Tax guys (live in NJ, work in NY) (1 Viewer)

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I'm sure there are plenty of accountants here (or at least NJ--->NY commuters) so i figured I'd just throw this out.

I was offered a new job at my company today. Big bump in terms of responsibility and potential for advancement, but from a title and pay-band perspective, its a lateral move. Still a no brainer, as my current department is not well thought of and a total dead end for me. At my company, going to NY is the best way to get on the fast track, so here we are. LOOK AT ME!!!!

HR came to me with their initial offer today and I kinda feel like I'm being squeezed.  Basically, they told me that since we're in the middle of compensation season, (had my review last week. Should hear about annual bonuses and raises by March 1) they decided to just roll my annual raise in with the bump to the new position and came in with an increase of about 7%.  The problem is that the commute alone (I'd have to take the train in 3X per week) would eat up more than half that (although apparently there's a program we work with that might allow me to pay for some of that pre-tax) so by the time you factor in NY taxes, I honestly dont even think I'd come out ahead on this deal (at their current number)

So I'm just trying to get a sense of how much additional tax I'm looking at so I can make an educated guess of what I need to at least break even on take-home pay (again, plenty of other pluses to this job, including a likely higher bonus, which I'm obviously factoring in)

Its my understanding that I'd have to file in both states but that the taxes I pay in NY would somehow be credited against what I would normally pay in NJ. Are there any resources available that might give me an estimate of what that would look like?  I realize there are a bunch of variables here, but for reference, I make low 6 figures and generally, my only deduction is my mortgage interest and everything associated with that. 

Really just trying to get a ballpark so that I can counter with a figure that keeps me at least a little bit ahead of the game and compensates me for the commute (both in terms of actual $$ cost and lifestyle change).

TIA.

 
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I work in NJ, live in NY. 

They take out taxes for both NY and NJ. It's about the same for each. Then at year end when I do my taxes, I get a credit from NY for the taxes I paid to NJ so it ends up as a wash. 

 
According to my W2 I paid 7k in NJ state taxes, 4k in NY state taxes, and 6k in NYC taxes. I owed $100 in NJ and made $2k in NY when I did my taxes. 

 
I dont know but whatever your counter is it should start at 1 million dollars. 

I'm kidding but have several friends that work in the city and their commute sucks..if my notebook is correct...bedminster/basking ridge area? That will be a decent commute. No kids' I think? So that makes things easier.

If you want to move up and out seems like a good opportunity.  Good luck. Don't recline your seat on the NJ transit line...you might get stabbed

 
I also took a lateral promotion last year with more responsibilities and no increase in pay and my bonus decreased this year. So yeah it could be worse. 

 
I'm sure there are plenty of accountants here (or at least NJ--->NY commuters) so i figured I'd just throw this out.

I was offered a new job at my company today. Big bump in terms of responsibility and potential for advancement, but from a title and pay-band perspective, its a lateral move. Still a no brainer, as my current department is not well thought of and a total dead end for me. At my company, going to NY is the best way to get on the fast track, so here we are. LOOK AT ME!!!!

HR came to me with their initial offer today and I kinda feel like I'm being squeezed.  Basically, they told me that since we're in the middle of compensation season, (had my review last week. Should hear about annual bonuses and raises by March 1) they decided to just roll my annual raise in with the bump to the new position and came in with an increase of about 7%.  The problem is that the commute alone (I'd have to take the train in 3X per week) would eat up more than half that (although apparently there's a program we work with that might allow me to pay for some of that pre-tax) so by the time you factor in NY taxes, I honestly dont even think I'd come out ahead on this deal (at their current number)

So I'm just trying to get a sense of how much additional tax I'm looking at so I can make an educated guess of what I need to at least break even on take-home pay (again, plenty of other pluses to this job, including a likely higher bonus, which I'm obviously factoring in)

Its my understanding that I'd have to file in both states but that the taxes I pay in NY would somehow be credited against what I would normally pay in NJ. Are there any resources available that might give me an estimate of what that would look like?  I realize there are a bunch of variables here, but for reference, I make low 6 figures and generally, my only deduction is my mortgage interest and everything associated with that. 

Really just trying to get a ballpark so that I can counter with a figure that keeps me at least a little bit ahead of the game and compensates me for the commute (both in terms of actual $$ cost and lifestyle change).

TIA.
Can’t help you with the tax but let’s get lunch!

 
According to my W2 I paid 7k in NJ state taxes, 4k in NY state taxes, and 6k in NYC taxes. I owed $100 in NJ and made $2k in NY when I did my taxes. 


Thanks. This is helpful.  You're full time in NJ? Not sure if it matters if i split time between multiple offices. (looks like its gonna be 3 days in NY, 2 in NJ at least at first)

 
I dont know but whatever your counter is it should start at 1 million dollars. 

I'm kidding but have several friends that work in the city and their commute sucks..if my notebook is correct...bedminster/basking ridge area? That will be a decent commute. No kids' I think? So that makes things easier.

If you want to move up and out seems like a good opportunity.  Good luck. Don't recline your seat on the NJ transit line...you might get stabbed
Yeah, I'm still in that area.

I'm actually really lucky in that I can see the train station from my house.  5 minute walk over and then a scheduled ~80 minute ride in. Of course, both times I've gone in for interviews, we had to wait outside Penn for like 10 minutes (plus it was raining both time, probably a bad omen) , so it will be probably be just under 2 hours door to door (1 subway stop and then ~3 blocks walking)

But yeah, its gonna be ROUGH walking out my door ~7 AM on those days to catch the train. I'm very much a night owl and my current office is about 10 minutes from my house. Big change.

I'll find stuff to do on the train (podcasts, catch up on some TV shows, etc)  and honestly.....I could kinda use the change. Been in a bit of a rut lately, so a new lifestyle is probably a good thing. If I dont screw things up,  I'll be in a position to get back to NJ in a few years.

But yeah, single no kids....so the only thing that will really suffer here is my golf game.

 
I'm actually really lucky in that I can see the train station from my house.  5 minute walk over and then a scheduled ~80 minute ride in. Of course, both times I've gone in for interviews, we had to wait outside Penn for like 10 minutes (plus it was raining both time, probably a bad omen) , so it will be probably be just under 2 hours door to door (1 subway stop and then ~3 blocks walking)
Welcome to Otis’s life. Our commutes sound pretty similar. Except mine is just about every day. 

You poor, dumb *******. 
 

ETA actually your train ride is a bunch longer. Oof. But congrats GB, commuting ain’t so terrible. 

 
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Welcome to Otis’s life. Our commutes sound pretty similar. Except mine is just about every day. 

You poor, dumb *******. 
One of us makes a lot more money, the other gets to go home to a quiet house to themselves.(as opposed to what I assume is a screaming, toy-filled maelstrom)

Not really sure who has the advantage here.....

 
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One of us makes a lot more money, the other gets to go home to a quiet house to themselves.(as opposed to what I assume is a screaming, toy-filled maelstrom)

Not really sure who has the advantage here.....
You win. 

 

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