TE Jordan Matthews, CAR (1 Viewer)

[Sigmund Bloom]

https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL/status/532055173477044224

Chip adamant not to read too much into Matthews' big game. Gameplan was to focus on slot/inside. Explains Celek too.

8:56pm - 10 Nov 14

no no, celek is budding superstar too.

matthews is going to be a fine NFL WR. I'll admit that I underestimated the quality of the fit in this role in philly, could bloat his numbers too (look at Maclin's #s right now. Is anyone arguing that he is truly an elite talent?). He's still not an NFL #1 WR and not a WR who is going to shake good man coverage or win tough balls in the air consistently.

Can you name 31 other NFL #1 WR's please.

I dont think there are 31 #1 WRs in the NFL

a "#1 WR" is one with a diverse skillset who can be everything from a deep threat to a guy who can make the tough catch in traffic to convert the 3rd and 7. ability to win in multiple ways is the essence.

NFL WR1s (off the top of my head)

Sammy Watkins

Andre Johnson? (definitely used to be/debatable now, DeAndre Hopkins might get there with more consistency)

Antonio Brown

Josh Gordon? (we'll see)

AJ Green

Demaryius Thomas

Keenan Allen (was on track last year we'll see)

Dez Bryant

Pierre Garcon (not being used as one right now)

Odell Beckham

Jordy Nelson

Alshon Jeffery

Brandon Marshall

Calvin Johnson

Kelvin Benjamin (projects as one with consistency a la Braylon Edwards)

Julio Jones/Roddy White

Mike Evans/Vincent Jackson

Larry Fitzgerald/Michael Floyd (projects as one but in a slump right now)

Sort of ridiculous not to have Maclin in that group. PFF has Maclin as the #5 WR over all right now. ZERO Drops, 2nd in the league in TDs, 12th in receptions, 7th in targets, 8th in yards, 8th in YAC...

Agreed. Watkins/Beckham/Benjamin/Allen/Evans/Floyd are all projections right now. If your argument against Maclin is let's see him do it for more than one season, than I would present the same argument for the guys I just listed.

I bolded the part in Sig's post where he states his definition of an NFL WR1 (not FFL). So by his definition not every team has a true #1WR. However, I don't agree that Maclin lacks either of those 2 requirements. Not a deep threat guy? In his first year as the Eagles' #1 he's averaging over 17 yds per reception and tied for 2nd in the league 5 plays of 40+.

Tough possession yards for a 1st down? His 1st down % is 68.8. Compare those numbers to Antonio Brown (a true #1 on Sig's list) has 3 plays of 40+ (13.5 yds/rec) and a 1st down % of 63.3. D. Thomas? 5 receptions of 40+ (15.4 yds/rec) and 61.5%. Dez? Averaging 14.2 with 4 & 64.3.

Maclin compares favorably imho.

Maclin is still meh on balls he has to compete for for the most part, lacks my ball mentality. just not a physical guy when it comes time to bang for the ball in the air. does have the speed to get free in Chip O. Maclin is closer than Matthews, i'll say that

 

[ShaHBucks]

https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL/status/532055173477044224

Chip adamant not to read too much into Matthews' big game. Gameplan was to focus on slot/inside. Explains Celek too.

8:56pm - 10 Nov 14

no no, celek is budding superstar too.

matthews is going to be a fine NFL WR. I'll admit that I underestimated the quality of the fit in this role in philly, could bloat his numbers too (look at Maclin's #s right now. Is anyone arguing that he is truly an elite talent?). He's still not an NFL #1 WR and not a WR who is going to shake good man coverage or win tough balls in the air consistently.

Can you name 31 other NFL #1 WR's please.

I dont think there are 31 #1 WRs in the NFL

a "#1 WR" is one with a diverse skillset who can be everything from a deep threat to a guy who can make the tough catch in traffic to convert the 3rd and 7. ability to win in multiple ways is the essence.

NFL WR1s (off the top of my head)

Sammy Watkins

Andre Johnson? (definitely used to be/debatable now, DeAndre Hopkins might get there with more consistency)

Antonio Brown

Josh Gordon? (we'll see)

AJ Green

Demaryius Thomas

Keenan Allen (was on track last year we'll see)

Dez Bryant

Pierre Garcon (not being used as one right now)

Odell Beckham

Jordy Nelson

Alshon Jeffery

Brandon Marshall

Calvin Johnson

Kelvin Benjamin (projects as one with consistency a la Braylon Edwards)

Julio Jones/Roddy White

Mike Evans/Vincent Jackson

Larry Fitzgerald/Michael Floyd (projects as one but in a slump right now)

Sort of ridiculous not to have Maclin in that group. PFF has Maclin as the #5 WR over all right now. ZERO Drops, 2nd in the league in TDs, 12th in receptions, 7th in targets, 8th in yards, 8th in YAC...

Agreed. Watkins/Beckham/Benjamin/Allen/Evans/Floyd are all projections right now. If your argument against Maclin is let's see him do it for more than one season, than I would present the same argument for the guys I just listed.

I bolded the part in Sig's post where he states his definition of an NFL WR1 (not FFL). So by his definition not every team has a true #1WR. However, I don't agree that Maclin lacks either of those 2 requirements. Not a deep threat guy? In his first year as the Eagles' #1 he's averaging over 17 yds per reception and tied for 2nd in the league 5 plays of 40+.

Tough possession yards for a 1st down? His 1st down % is 68.8. Compare those numbers to Antonio Brown (a true #1 on Sig's list) has 3 plays of 40+ (13.5 yds/rec) and a 1st down % of 63.3. D. Thomas? 5 receptions of 40+ (15.4 yds/rec) and 61.5%. Dez? Averaging 14.2 with 4 & 64.3.

Maclin compares favorably imho.

Maclin is still meh on balls he has to compete for for the most part, lacks my ball mentality. just not a physical guy when it comes time to bang for the ball in the air. does have the speed to get free in Chip O. Maclin is closer than Matthews, i'll say that

Where do you project him to settle as a fantasy WR?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Where do you project him to settle as a fantasy WR?

maclin's FF value totally depends on where he lands next year. see decker for example

 

[ShaHBucks]

Where do you project him to settle as a fantasy WR?

maclin's FF value totally depends on where he lands next year. see decker for example

I meant Matthews, giving what we know now. Sry

 

[Bayhawks]

Where do you project him to settle as a fantasy WR?

maclin's FF value totally depends on where he lands next year. see decker for example

I meant Matthews, giving what we know now. Sry

That's going to be up in the air, as well.

1-Maclin leaves, Matthews becomes Philly's WR1, thrives, and (like DJax and Maclin in Kelly's offense) is a FF WR1.

2-Maclin leaves, Matthews becomes Philly's WR1, but can't handle being the focus of opposition D's, doesn't produce.

3-Maclin leaves, Philly signs someone to be WR1, Matthews, as Philly's WR2 produces WR2/WR3 stats

4-Maclin stays, Matthews is Philly's WR2, produces WR2/WR3 stats

5-Maclin stays, Matthews can't supplant Cooper and remains WR3, produces WR4 stats

Right now, there are too many variables to accurately project him for next year.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Eagles All-22: How Kelly schemed Matthews open

While rookie wideouts like Odell Beckham Jr. and Brandin Cooks are poetry-in-motion types who move gracefully and have the elite speed to challenge the NFL’s top outside corners, Matthews is more dependent on scheme to get open at the pro level.

Matthews struggled at the Senior Bowl getting off press coverage and battling against the better outside corners, an issue that dropped him from a safe first-round pick into the second round. But size and quickness will always benefit him in the slot, where he’s usually matched against linebackers, safeties or nickel corners.

Matthews had his best game Monday night against the Panthers, catching seven passes for 138 yards and two touchdowns. Several of his receptions came against either zone coverage or when freed up in open space across the middle.

Let’s look at some of his most productive catches..................

 

[OrangeJulius]

Eagles All-22: How Kelly schemed Matthews open

While rookie wideouts like Odell Beckham Jr. and Brandin Cooks are poetry-in-motion types who move gracefully and have the elite speed to challenge the NFL’s top outside corners, Matthews is more dependent on scheme to get open at the pro level.

Matthews struggled at the Senior Bowl getting off press coverage and battling against the better outside corners, an issue that dropped him from a safe first-round pick into the second round. But size and quickness will always benefit him in the slot, where he’s usually matched against linebackers, safeties or nickel corners.

Matthews had his best game Monday night against the Panthers, catching seven passes for 138 yards and two touchdowns. Several of his receptions came against either zone coverage or when freed up in open space across the middle.

Let’s look at some of his most productive catches..................

The above comment is BS!!!

4.4 sped with great size... Scheme DEEZ!!!

 

[MCguidance]

Gimme that scheme.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Gimme that scheme.

It's working wonders for Sancheekz and McCoy

 

[Milkman]

Yeah Werd was right he sucks.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Eagles All-22: How Kelly schemed Matthews open

While rookie wideouts like Odell Beckham Jr. and Brandin Cooks are poetry-in-motion types who move gracefully and have the elite speed to challenge the NFL’s top outside corners, Matthews is more dependent on scheme to get open at the pro level.

Matthews struggled at the Senior Bowl getting off press coverage and battling against the better outside corners, an issue that dropped him from a safe first-round pick into the second round. But size and quickness will always benefit him in the slot, where he’s usually matched against linebackers, safeties or nickel corners.

Matthews had his best game Monday night against the Panthers, catching seven passes for 138 yards and two touchdowns. Several of his receptions came against either zone coverage or when freed up in open space across the middle.

Let’s look at some of his most productive catches..................

The above comment is BS!!!

4.4 sped with great size... Scheme DEEZ!!!

Have anything to actually debate in that article, or did you just come loaded with exclamation points?

 

[MCguidance]

Who is rolling him out with confidence this week? Debating whether to get him involved.

 

[frae]

I have him in over Mike Wallace.

 

[Slider]

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

 

[Milkman]

Matthews has 163 less snaps than Watkins but only 45 less yards.

Matthews also has 1 more TD than Watkins. That's where that size comes in handy imo. Matthews might have double digit TD his rookie year something Sammy might never do in his career.

Matthews also has 2 drops according to PFF compared to Sammy's 5 drops. Matthews showing his elite hands off.

Surprisingly Matthews has a higher YAC than the best WR prospect since AJ Green Mr. Sammy Watkins.

Sammy is playing nearly every snap which is almost twice as much as Matthews but Matthews might catch him in yards and already has more receptions than Sammy. One significant advantage Matthews does have is he has another very good WR on the team. Sammy is the only serious threat in the passing game on his team. Can't wait to see Matthews when they move him outside too. He's going to play everywhere.

Both receivers are having great years. Matthew is being helped by the scheme he is playing in and Sammy is being hurt by the low volume passing attack he is playing in.

 

[dhockster]

I went back and re-read Bloom's original write-up. I think he got a lot of things about Matthews right. What I thing he didn't factor in as much is his intelligence (which he acknowledged) and his work ethic and how they work together. Jordan Matthews will be a better receiver in the Pros than he was in College because he is smart enough to know what he is not doing right, and works hard enough that he can correct or compensate for his deficiencies. Most successful people in our society are intelligent and have a strong work ethic. He also is benefitting from Chip Kelly's offense and Mark Sanchez's comfort with him as a weapon.

 

[mr roboto]

Matthews has 163 less snaps than Watkins but only 45 less yards.

Matthews also has 1 more TD than Watkins. That's where that size comes in handy imo. Matthews might have double digit TD his rookie year something Sammy might never do in his career.

Matthews also has 2 drops according to PFF compared to Sammy's 5 drops. Matthews showing his elite hands off.

Surprisingly Matthews has a higher YAC than the best WR prospect since AJ Green Mr. Sammy Watkins.

Sammy is playing nearly every snap which is almost twice as much as Matthews but Matthews might catch him in yards and already has more receptions than Sammy. One significant advantage Matthews does have is he has another very good WR on the team. Sammy is the only serious threat in the passing game on his team. Can't wait to see Matthews when they move him outside too. He's going to play everywhere.

Both receivers are having great years. Matthew is being helped by the scheme he is playing in and Sammy is being hurt by the low volume passing attack he is playing in.

To be fair there is a little difference in the offenses that they each play in.

 

[dhockster]

Matthews has 163 less snaps than Watkins but only 45 less yards.

Matthews also has 1 more TD than Watkins. That's where that size comes in handy imo. Matthews might have double digit TD his rookie year something Sammy might never do in his career.

Matthews also has 2 drops according to PFF compared to Sammy's 5 drops. Matthews showing his elite hands off.

Surprisingly Matthews has a higher YAC than the best WR prospect since AJ Green Mr. Sammy Watkins.

Sammy is playing nearly every snap which is almost twice as much as Matthews but Matthews might catch him in yards and already has more receptions than Sammy. One significant advantage Matthews does have is he has another very good WR on the team. Sammy is the only serious threat in the passing game on his team. Can't wait to see Matthews when they move him outside too. He's going to play everywhere.

Both receivers are having great years. Matthew is being helped by the scheme he is playing in and Sammy is being hurt by the low volume passing attack he is playing in.

To be fair there is a little difference in the offenses that they each play in.

He acknowledges that.

 

[ShaHBucks]

I went back and re-read Bloom's original write-up. I think he got a lot of things about Matthews right. What I thing he didn't factor in as much is his intelligence (which he acknowledged) and his work ethic and how they work together. Jordan Matthews will be a better receiver in the Pros than he was in College because he is smart enough to know what he is not doing right, and works hard enough that he can correct or compensate for his deficiencies. Most successful people in our society are intelligent and have a strong work ethic. He also is benefitting from Chip Kelly's offense and Mark Sanchez's comfort with him as a weapon.

?? He had the most productive college career of any WR from the draft. I don't understand your statement.

 

[Milkman]

Matthews has 163 less snaps than Watkins but only 45 less yards.

Matthews also has 1 more TD than Watkins. That's where that size comes in handy imo. Matthews might have double digit TD his rookie year something Sammy might never do in his career.

Matthews also has 2 drops according to PFF compared to Sammy's 5 drops. Matthews showing his elite hands off.

Surprisingly Matthews has a higher YAC than the best WR prospect since AJ Green Mr. Sammy Watkins.

Sammy is playing nearly every snap which is almost twice as much as Matthews but Matthews might catch him in yards and already has more receptions than Sammy. One significant advantage Matthews does have is he has another very good WR on the team. Sammy is the only serious threat in the passing game on his team. Can't wait to see Matthews when they move him outside too. He's going to play everywhere.

Both receivers are having great years. Matthew is being helped by the scheme he is playing in and Sammy is being hurt by the low volume passing attack he is playing in.

To be fair there is a little difference in the offenses that they each play in.

Yeah you're right. That was the biggest knock on Sammy. He's basically going to be the focal point of opposing teams secondary, not get as many opportunities to beat them, and have Orton throwing to him. Plus he's not a transcendent athlete. Not a good look.

Sammy is playing in 97% of his teams snaps and has been targeted 86 times. Matthews closer to 60% of his teams snaps and he only has 72 targets. Matthews has been more efficient on a per target basis. That could change and Matthews isn't being covered by the opposing teams #1 CB like Sammy which helps him. We still won't really know anything conclusively for another couple years but Matthews, to date, compares favorably to Sammy Watkins. That could still change this year. The year isn't over yet but that's what we got right now.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

 

[jurb26]

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

When did he get moved to Den?

 

[Xue]

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

When did he get moved to Den?

Eagles average .9 more Offensive points/game than the Broncos. They only average 4.5 less total yards per game.

 

[jurb26]

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

When did he get moved to Den?

Eagles average .9 more Offensive points/game than the Broncos. They only average 4.5 less total yards per game.

Philly has 7 DST TDs this year. Den has 1. You factor that in?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

When did he get moved to Den?

Eagles average .9 more Offensive points/game than the Broncos. They only average 4.5 less total yards per game.

Philly has 7 DST TDs this year. Den has 1. You factor that in?

ok DEN w Manning is the best offense in the league right now. but the best scheme for creating FF value is in PHI - for dynasty especially that matters

 

[Xue]

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

When did he get moved to Den?

Eagles average .9 more Offensive points/game than the Broncos. They only average 4.5 less total yards per game.

Philly has 7 DST TDs this year. Den has 1. You factor that in?

Read my exact words again.

 

[jurb26]

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

When did he get moved to Den?

Eagles average .9 more Offensive points/game than the Broncos. They only average 4.5 less total yards per game.

Philly has 7 DST TDs this year. Den has 1. You factor that in?

Read my exact words again.

Then your numbers are wrong. Den has scored 42 offensive TDs this year and 9 FGs. That's 321 total points including the extra points.

Philly has scored 29 offensive TDs this year and 23 FGs. That's 272 total points including the extra points.

 

[Bayhawks]

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

When did he get moved to Den?

Eagles average .9 more Offensive points/game than the Broncos. They only average 4.5 less total yards per game.

Philly has 7 DST TDs this year. Den has 1. You factor that in?

Read my exact words again.

Then your numbers are wrong.Den has scored 42 offensive TDs this year and 9 FGs. That's 321 total points including the extra points.

Philly has scored 29 offensive TDs this year and 23 FGs. That's 272 total points including the extra points.

To be exact, it's 320 offensive points for Denver, and 282 for Philly. Denver has run 738 offensive plays, Philly has run 800. So anyway you look at it, Denver's offense is more prolific.

That being said, I think it's safe to say that Denver's offense flows through Manning, and Philly's offense flows through Kelly. With that in mind, it's important to think about the long-term (especially when discussing a rookie WR). Matthews offense in Philly should be fairly stable, while Denver's offense could drastically change fairly soon (when Manning retires). Whether that is after this year, next year, the year after, we don't know, but it's not far off in the future.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

When did he get moved to Den?

Eagles average .9 more Offensive points/game than the Broncos. They only average 4.5 less total yards per game.

Philly has 7 DST TDs this year. Den has 1. You factor that in?

Read my exact words again.

Then your numbers are wrong.Den has scored 42 offensive TDs this year and 9 FGs. That's 321 total points including the extra points.

Philly has scored 29 offensive TDs this year and 23 FGs. That's 272 total points including the extra points.

To be exact, it's 320 offensive points for Denver, and 282 for Philly. Denver has run 738 offensive plays, Philly has run 800. So anyway you look at it, Denver's offense is more prolific. That being said, I think it's safe to say that Denver's offense flows through Manning, and Philly's offense flows through Kelly. With that in mind, it's important to think about the long-term (especially when discussing a rookie WR). Matthews offense in Philly should be fairly stable, while Denver's offense could drastically change fairly soon (when Manning retires). Whether that is after this year, next year, the year after, we don't know, but it's not far off in the future.

I've yet to see Chip Kelly run, pass, catch a TD in the NFL

 

[Bayhawks]

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

When did he get moved to Den?

Eagles average .9 more Offensive points/game than the Broncos. They only average 4.5 less total yards per game.

Philly has 7 DST TDs this year. Den has 1. You factor that in?

Read my exact words again.

Then your numbers are wrong.

Den has scored 42 offensive TDs this year and 9 FGs. That's 321 total points including the extra points.

Philly has scored 29 offensive TDs this year and 23 FGs. That's 272 total points including the extra points.

To be exact, it's 320 offensive points for Denver, and 282 for Philly. Denver has run 738 offensive plays, Philly has run 800. So anyway you look at it, Denver's offense is more prolific.

That being said, I think it's safe to say that Denver's offense flows through Manning, and Philly's offense flows through Kelly. With that in mind, it's important to think about the long-term (especially when discussing a rookie WR). Matthews offense in Philly should be fairly stable, while Denver's offense could drastically change fairly soon (when Manning retires). Whether that is after this year, next year, the year after, we don't know, but it's not far off in the future.

I've yet to see Chip Kelly run, pass, catch a TD in the NFL

Neither have I, but I have seen Phily's offense be much better since he's been calling plays.

 

[georg013]

Big Sammy supporter here. There is no denying Watkins's talent. However, this class overall has just been amazing. I'm ready to acknowledge Evans, Matthews, OBJ, Cooks, and Landry as major pieces to an overall strong class. Can't lose with any one of these guys on your team today and beyond. The Matthews hate ends here for georg013. Like what I see. Not more than Watkins but enough.

 

[Milkman]

Looking good today already. Would be nice to see him get to 1000 yards and 10 TD's his rookie year but he'll probably fall short. Big game today would give him a chance though.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Projection versus Seattle?

 

[cvnpoka]

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

When did he get moved to Den?

Eagles average .9 more Offensive points/game than the Broncos. They only average 4.5 less total yards per game.

Philly has 7 DST TDs this year. Den has 1. You factor that in?

and if anything, this should reduce the offensive production of the eagles. those defensive scores mean fewer opportunities for the offense.

 

[dhockster]

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

Sig had to have nightmares when Kelly drafted the kid.

Kelly had a good plan to maximize exactly what he brings to the table. Definitely have to revise range of possibilities production-wise when someone lands in the most prolific offense in the league

When did he get moved to Den?

Eagles average .9 more Offensive points/game than the Broncos. They only average 4.5 less total yards per game.

Philly has 7 DST TDs this year. Den has 1. You factor that in?

and if anything, this should reduce the offensive production of the eagles. those defensive scores mean fewer opportunities for the offense.

Not so much with the Eagles. They generally get stopped or score so quickly that they usually have plenty of offensive opportunities.

 

[Bayhawks]

How do we feel about Matthews against Seattle this weekend?

He's been top-10 in my league since Sanchez took over, but this is a tough match-up.

How do the Seahawks do against inside, slot receivers? Is that a weakness Philly might be able to exploit, or is that one of Seattle's strong suits?

 

[FGITLOTR]

How do we feel about Matthews against Seattle this weekend?

He's been top-10 in my league since Sanchez took over, but this is a tough match-up.

How do the Seahawks do against inside, slot receivers? Is that a weakness Philly might be able to exploit, or is that one of Seattle's strong suits?

Great questions and am wondering the same

 

[ShaHBucks]

TRGS RECS YDS TDS Y/R Y/T 7.5 5.5 93.25 1 16.95 12.43 Those are Matthews numbers in game where Sanchez started. In 16 games that extrapolates to 1,492 yards with 17 TDs (sorry Bloom). You have to consider him a top-20 WR regardless of match-ups based on this trend.

 

[Milkman]

TRGS RECS YDS TDS Y/R Y/T 7.5 5.5 93.25 1 16.95 12.43 Those are Matthews numbers in game where Sanchez started. In 16 games that extrapolates to 1,492 yards with 17 TDs (sorry Bloom). You have to consider him a top-20 WR regardless of match-ups based on this trend.

Sick!

 

[CentralPA]

How do we feel about Matthews against Seattle this weekend?

He's been top-10 in my league since Sanchez took over, but this is a tough match-up.

How do the Seahawks do against inside, slot receivers? Is that a weakness Philly might be able to exploit, or is that one of Seattle's strong suits?

I would think the LoB would blanket the corners well so the best place (but also maybe the most dsangerous) to throw would be in the middle of the field where Matthews thrives. He should have a pretty good game regardless of Seattle's secondary. Maclin probably not so much.

 

[gchip]

How do we feel about Matthews against Seattle this weekend?

He's been top-10 in my league since Sanchez took over, but this is a tough match-up.

How do the Seahawks do against inside, slot receivers? Is that a weakness Philly might be able to exploit, or is that one of Seattle's strong suits?

I would think the LoB would blanket the corners well so the best place (but also maybe the most dsangerous) to throw would be in the middle of the field where Matthews thrives. He should have a pretty good game regardless of Seattle's secondary. Maclin probably not so much.

I think Seattle was a bit softer in the middle of the field but Bobby Wagner is back now and has to be accounted for. I do think Matthews should do ok, not great, but there's also a chance that the Eagles go to Ertz more in this game.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

How do we feel about Matthews against Seattle this weekend?

He's been top-10 in my league since Sanchez took over, but this is a tough match-up.

How do the Seahawks do against inside, slot receivers? Is that a weakness Philly might be able to exploit, or is that one of Seattle's strong suits?

I would think the LoB would blanket the corners well so the best place (but also maybe the most dsangerous) to throw would be in the middle of the field where Matthews thrives. He should have a pretty good game regardless of Seattle's secondary. Maclin probably not so much.

I think Seattle was a bit softer in the middle of the field but Bobby Wagner is back now and has to be accounted for. I do think Matthews should do ok, not great, but there's also a chance that the Eagles go to Ertz more in this game.

I'm not sure how much Ertz will play at all. Celek will be needed for his blocking.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

TRGS RECS YDS TDS Y/R Y/T 7.5 5.5 93.25 1 16.95 12.43 Those are Matthews numbers in game where Sanchez started. In 16 games that extrapolates to 1,492 yards with 17 TDs (sorry Bloom). You have to consider him a top-20 WR regardless of match-ups based on this trend.

why are you saying sorry? a very productive player can still be overrated.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

How do we feel about Matthews against Seattle this weekend?

He's been top-10 in my league since Sanchez took over, but this is a tough match-up.

How do the Seahawks do against inside, slot receivers? Is that a weakness Philly might be able to exploit, or is that one of Seattle's strong suits?

Great questions and am wondering the same

Seattle devoured Decker last year and I think his game is somewhat similar. I think Wagner and Chancellor are going to make it tougher for Matthews to run free like he has been against some defenses w Sanchez in

 

[Max Power]

So what happened this week? Fluke game?

I'm not sure I can play him week 16

 

[ninogaggi]

I'm in a dynasty league that doesn't allow waiver adds past week 13, and due to injuries (Julio, KAllen) I'm debating whether to start Matthews, Cecil Shorts or Moncrief at the WR2 for the championship this week.

Leaning towards Matthews but last week's 1 target and the 4pt game week before has me really worried.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Jordan Matthews - WR - Eagles

Philly Mag's Sheil Kapadia says it makes a lot of sense for Jordan Matthews to replace Riley Cooper as an outside receiver in two-wide sets.

Cooper was arguably the worst starting wideout in the NFL this season, but the Eagles will bring him back in 2015 thanks to a silly $22.5M contract they gave him last year. That doesn't mean Cooper's role won't change. Matthews, who was strictly a slot receiver as a rookie, would be a massive upgrade out wide and can still move inside in 3- and 4-wide formations. At 6'3/212 with 4.46 speed and a 10-foot broad jump, he has the measureables to make the transition even if separation was a concern on college tape.

Related: Riley Cooper

Source: Philly Mag: Birds 24/7

Jan 26 - 9:57 AM

 

[Faust]

Philadelphia Eagles 2014 Rookie Grades: Jordan Matthews saving grace

Excerpt:

Round 2: WR Jordan Matthews

Most of us had a feeling that Jordan Matthews would be the team’s best pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, and he has shown that he can be a good No. 2 wide receiver in this league. Part of one of the best wide receiver draft classes in recent memory, Matthews didn’t disappoint by catching 67 passes for 872 yards and eight touchdowns, showing his trademark toughness, work ethic, and smarts, and he became Mark Sanchez‘s go-to guy after Foles went down.

Matthews had some concerns relating to his ability to gain consistent separation in the NFL, but we didn’t see any issues from him as a rookie as he immediately became a strong No. 2 option in the passing game to No. 1 wideout Jeremy Maclin. Thanks to his ability to play inside or outside, Matthews is an excellent chess piece for the Eagles in addition to being a consistent wideout who did a great job of generating yards after the catch.

Based on how well he played last year with 103 targets to his name, we could see Matthews hit 70 catches next season. His 13 yards per reception show that he brings more to the table than just a possession receiver element, and, per Advanced Football Analytics, he caught 65% of everything thrown at him and averaged 8.5 yards per target; those are numbers you can’t ignore.

Rookie Grade: B+

 

[Faust]

@eaglescentral 3h

Chip Kelly has repeatedly said he wants to play Jordan Matthews in the slot. Might need to move him outside in 2015. #Eagles

@eaglescentral 4h

Jordan Matthews was better than any receiver on either team that just played in the Super Bowl. #Eagles

 

[Faust]

Jeremy Maclin leaves another hole on offense for Eagles

Excerpt:

Matthews, a second-round pick last year, had a good rookie season. The 6-foot-3, 212-pounder caught 67 passes for 872 yards and eight touchdowns. Matthews was especially effective in the red zone, catching 10 passes for 96 yards and six of his touchdowns. Maclin’s red zone numbers: six catches, 41 yards, three touchdowns.