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Sorry if this has been covered before, but with the depth at TE this year, I may use a TEBC (tight end by commitee) approach. Probably is pretty self-explanatory, but instead of drafting a top TE in the 4th or 5th round, I'll take a TE back to back, or within 2 rounds of each other, somewhere in the 8th through 11th rounds. I'll hopefully end up with 2 of Zach or Heath Miller, Daniels, Cooley or Schiancoe and hope 1 of them emerges as a top 5 TE.

I've used this strategy in recent years with QBs and it has worked.

Any thoughts?

 
It pretty common. I did the same this year in one league with Owen Daniels and Kellen Winslow, but only because that's the way the draft played out.

 
If you draft two hoping one will be a stud, then there has never been a better year to do just that. In fantasy the term "by committee" usually means you draft several later guys at the same position and play the guy how has the weak opponent that week. Works great for WR, QB, and RB because you know an average player playing one of the worst defenses in the leauge will often put up #1 numbers. In my experience TE production is A LOT harder to predict. Often a TE will have a bigger game against a better defense because the down field throws just are there, or because it becomes a grind it game and there simply is more short stuff. Trying to pick which TE is going to have a big game based on the opponent might be tough.

 
I'm going to highly suggest this again this season. Last year I ended up with a team of Gronk and Graham. Highly unlikely I hit gold like I did last year, but I'm sure one of Rudolph/Cook/Olsen has a top 5 TE season.

 
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I think Gresham is the best late round TE target this year. It's hard to predict a SOS for TE, but Olsen looks like he matches the best with this strategy.

 
Has anyone drafted both Gronk and Graham...possibly at 1/2 split or somewhere around there? Assuming they had similar years to last (which won't happen...check '95 receivers), wonder what the DVBD value would be for even storing one of these guys on your bench rather than having an opponent with them.

 
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'gagull said:
Sorry if this has been covered before, but with the depth at TE this year, I may use a TEBC (tight end by commitee) approach. Probably is pretty self-explanatory, but instead of drafting a top TE in the 4th or 5th round, I'll take a TE back to back, or within 2 rounds of each other, somewhere in the 8th through 11th rounds. I'll hopefully end up with 2 of Zach or Heath Miller, Daniels, Cooley or Schiancoe and hope 1 of them emerges as a top 5 TE.I've used this strategy in recent years with QBs and it has worked.Any thoughts?
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this will be fine if you use TE defense as opposed to passing defensestl is always great vs the TE but weak vs the pass, for examplephilly and chi have been the opposite over the past few years
 
'flc735 said:
'gagull said:
Sorry if this has been covered before, but with the depth at TE this year, I may use a TEBC (tight end by commitee) approach. Probably is pretty self-explanatory, but instead of drafting a top TE in the 4th or 5th round, I'll take a TE back to back, or within 2 rounds of each other, somewhere in the 8th through 11th rounds. I'll hopefully end up with 2 of Zach or Heath Miller, Daniels, Cooley or Schiancoe and hope 1 of them emerges as a top 5 TE.I've used this strategy in recent years with QBs and it has worked.Any thoughts?
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this will be fine if you use TE defense as opposed to passing defensestl is always great vs the TE but weak vs the pass, for examplephilly and chi have been the opposite over the past few years
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teams that play a lot of that 2 deep safety shell are usually te friendly, so stay on top of changing schemes.
 
I will be attempting this. I wouldn't mind getting a pair of the following:

Gresham

Fleener

Cook

Myers

Keller

CAMERON

I am also interested in Eifert, Casey and maybe McDonald. I play redraft. Not sure about all of these guys and their ADP, but I'm confident my casual league won't think about most of these guys. They love the big name TE's.

 
gagull said:
Sorry if this has been covered before, but with the depth at TE this year, I may use a TEBC (tight end by commitee) approach. Probably is pretty self-explanatory, but instead of drafting a top TE in the 4th or 5th round, I'll take a TE back to back, or within 2 rounds of each other, somewhere in the 8th through 11th rounds. I'll hopefully end up with 2 of Zach or Heath Miller, Daniels, Cooley or Schiancoe and hope 1 of them emerges as a top 5 TE. I've used this strategy in recent years with QBs and it has worked. Any thoughts?
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is this really TEBC? it seems like you are drafting 2 tes and hoping that 1 hits. TEBC means you'd play them according to matchups, like...say... a DEF by committee.

 
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TheFootballJesus said:
I think anyone that doesn't end up with a top 5 tight end is going with this strategy whether they care to admit it or not.
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Yeah, and really to me, 2 of the Top 5 in Gronk and Vernon are question marks themselves. I might end up considering Daniels or Finley (actually right now with Nelson and Cobb banged up, I think he's being underrated) when that time comes if I dont like the options at other positions, but Im most likely going to end up with 2 of the following:

Fred Davis

Gresham

Fleener

Dickson

Miller

 
Zach Ertz is going to start creeping into this conversation I think. I am currently in a slow Draft Experts draft (verrrry slow) and waited on TE. I took Ertz and I think I will also take James Casey giving me the likely best Philly TE numbers each week. 26 man roster so i can add a third TE as well. Say, Marcedes Lewis. Id feel good about that.

 
Some call it TEBC I call it throwing #### against the wall. My #### is Keller, Housler, Julius Thomas, David Ausberry, Vance McDonald, and Ed Dickison. I need two pieces of #### to stick.

 
Kenny Powers said:
Mr E said:
I'll be taking 2-3 of

Cameron

Keller

Cook

Davis

Olsen

1-2 of them will hit.
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Olsen is going 8th round and Cook early 9th. Thats not really using a TEBC approach.
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At this point I have to assume any of the above guys would be a TEBC (with the exception of Olsen). Cook has yet to prove it, so I would need a back up plan, even though his ADP is high.

If we look at ADP, I think Keller, Cameron, and Davis are steals. Even Brandon Meyers. Eli always gets the TE involved.

 
Two Deep said:
Some call it TEBC I call it throwing #### against the wall. My #### is Keller, Housler, Julius Thomas, David Ausberry, Vance McDonald, and Ed Dickison. I need two pieces of #### to stick.
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I forgot about Housler. Him too. Add him to my list of late round TE's to scoop.

Palmer can sling it, and Arians knows how to involved TE's in the passing game.

 
Man, the TEs are ooooooogly this year.

My best advice is to take a look at how tes are used in the preseason games and grab a few of those.**

**disclaimer: this advice will work better for those that get 3 preseason games of data.

 
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MisterOban said:
Zach Ertz is going to start creeping into this conversation I think. I am currently in a slow Draft Experts draft (verrrry slow) and waited on TE. I took Ertz and I think I will also take James Casey giving me the likely best Philly TE numbers each week. 26 man roster so i can add a third TE as well. Say, Marcedes Lewis. Id feel good about that.
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TEBC doesn't typically mean draft both TEs on the same team (unless you're drafting 2011 AHern and Gronk)

 
eNdblu said:
MisterOban said:
Zach Ertz is going to start creeping into this conversation I think. I am currently in a slow Draft Experts draft (verrrry slow) and waited on TE. I took Ertz and I think I will also take James Casey giving me the likely best Philly TE numbers each week. 26 man roster so i can add a third TE as well. Say, Marcedes Lewis. Id feel good about that.
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TEBC doesn't typically mean draft both TEs on the same team (unless you're drafting 2011 AHern and Gronk)
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It can though. The Colts, Bengals and Eagles TE pairs are valuable enough on their own, and used interchangeably enough that you might be able to pick when to start one or the other. The Eagles pair may be Celek/Casey though instead of Casey/Eartz. I am pretty confident Casey is going to be one of that pair though.

This can be very frustrating of course if you pick wrong. Having a pair from the same team gives you some injury insurance though and if this were a valuable flex option would improve the consistency of your TE scoring somewhat as well.

This strategy is better in best ball leagues than HTH obviously, where it becomes a headache knowing which one to start. These players are valuable on their own however in the similar way that a quality back up RB becomes much more valuable if the other starter misses time with injury or for other reason.

The thing that is tricky however is that the ADP for these TE pairs is close together. Some favor one of the pair over the other and so are much higher on their guy from that group than the other. The same upside you are likely seeing for those players as well should the other TE miss playing time. With the 2 camps divided enough on that to cause the ADP to be in similar range and perhaps a bit higher than some other similarly ranked TE without the competition. In todays NFL I think 2TE is not that different that 2WR if the teams play both TE in enough of their packages.

So to employ this strategy you need to have 2 picks close to each other to safely pull it off. I wouldn't be married to the strategy. If you find favorable schedules, with a little luck, just about any pair will do.

 
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