Tennessee Titans Fantasy Prospects (1 Viewer)

[flufhed]

For what it's worth.

Norm Chow is not your typical "coachspeak" kind of guy. He is generally a straight shooter:

"(Chris Henry) is a little bit behind because of not playing as much and not having a feel mentally for the run game, but his willingness to work hard puts him right up there."

No surprises there. As a Titans fan I am still "unsure: but everyone knew that his lack of experience was his biggest problem.

"There's no question -- (Lendale) has got a chance to be the starter. He's a very, very good football player. We've had a good hard week of OTAs, and he's done a nice job. He's a talented young guy -- he may be a sleeper in your Fantasy league."

Hmmm . . . No doubt Norm has a vested interest in Lendale, but, again, Norm is not a sugarcoating kind of guy. I think we can take this somewhat at face value

"(Brandon Jones) is competing real hard, but don't rule out Roydell Williams and Courtney Roby. They're playing right at that same level. Roydell Williams is playing awfully well for us right now."

Disconcerting that Brandon Jones has not stood out, but interesting news on the other two third-year guys. Norm had good things to say about Paul Williams, although agaiin discussing how he is a little behind because of rawness and injuries in OTAs. Also really likes the other kid, whose name I forgot, that the Titans drafted (the second WR they took). Says he is very explosive. Did not mention Orr at all. Says Gage is very athletic and brings a unique element to the WR corps.

 

[waylander]

I read that yesterday, nothing really new but an enjoyable read. I take that back, I didn't know that Roydell was doing so well to get some praise from Chow, so that was a nice bonus.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Translation --

- Chris Henry is unlikely to start this year because he's a tad clueless on the offense and has a poor feel for being an actual RB

- if Lendale keeps working hard and stays in shape, he'll get carries. Otherwise, his fat *** will sit on the bench

- Chris Brown is still the front-runner to start, because Lendale is lazy

- None of the WRs stand out currently; Chow has no idea who will push ahead before the season starts

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Translation -- - Chris Henry is unlikely to start this year because he's a tad clueless on the offense and has a poor feel for being an actual RB

No way. Really? But he was so productive in college. The Titans got Mamula-ed.

 

[lions327]

Translation -- - Chris Henry is unlikely to start this year because he's a tad clueless on the offense and has a poor feel for being an actual RB- if Lendale keeps working hard and stays in shape, he'll get carries. Otherwise, his fat *** will sit on the bench- Chris Brown is still the front-runner to start, because Lendale is lazy- None of the WRs stand out currently; Chow has no idea who will push ahead before the season starts

 

[Banger]

Translation -- - Chris Henry is unlikely to start this year because he's a tad clueless on the offense and has a poor feel for being an actual RB

No way. Really? But he was so productive in college. The Titans got Mamula-ed.

Agreed. The fact that Henry has been underwhelming thus far is not a surprise at all. Does anyone have an example of player that bad in college (not due to injury) but had great physical attributes and really excelled once they reached the NFL? I've been trying to think of a couple players and couldn't think of any.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

Translation -- - Chris Henry is unlikely to start this year because he's a tad clueless on the offense and has a poor feel for being an actual RB

No way. Really? But he was so productive in college. The Titans got Mamula-ed.

Agreed. The fact that Henry has been underwhelming thus far is not a surprise at all. Does anyone have an example of player that bad in college (not due to injury) but had great physical attributes and really excelled once they reached the NFL? I've been trying to think of a couple players and couldn't think of any.

Does Willie Parker qualify?

 

[Banger]

Translation -- - Chris Henry is unlikely to start this year because he's a tad clueless on the offense and has a poor feel for being an actual RB

No way. Really? But he was so productive in college. The Titans got Mamula-ed.

Agreed. The fact that Henry has been underwhelming thus far is not a surprise at all. Does anyone have an example of player that bad in college (not due to injury) but had great physical attributes and really excelled once they reached the NFL? I've been trying to think of a couple players and couldn't think of any.

Does Willie Parker qualify?

Good call. Ok, so it looks like Henry may be a stud after all

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Translation -- - Chris Henry is unlikely to start this year because he's a tad clueless on the offense and has a poor feel for being an actual RB

No way. Really? But he was so productive in college. The Titans got Mamula-ed.

Agreed. The fact that Henry has been underwhelming thus far is not a surprise at all. Does anyone have an example of player that bad in college (not due to injury) but had great physical attributes and really excelled once they reached the NFL? I've been trying to think of a couple players and couldn't think of any.

Willie Parker did very very little at North Carolina. He was miscast as Bunting wanted him to become a power runner.

 

[Banger]

Translation -- - Chris Henry is unlikely to start this year because he's a tad clueless on the offense and has a poor feel for being an actual RB

No way. Really? But he was so productive in college. The Titans got Mamula-ed.

Agreed. The fact that Henry has been underwhelming thus far is not a surprise at all. Does anyone have an example of player that bad in college (not due to injury) but had great physical attributes and really excelled once they reached the NFL? I've been trying to think of a couple players and couldn't think of any.

Willie Parker did very very little at North Carolina. He was miscast as Bunting wanted him to become a power runner.

Is there any indication that Henry was miscast or is there a "reason" for his lack of productivity besides not being a good football player?

 

[sholditch]

I find this interesting:

You picked up three more wide receivers in the NFL Draft, including rookie Paul Williams, who played both ways throughout college. What do you think he's capable of as a rookie?

Chow: He's a very talented guy, a big receiver that can catch and run. He missed a couple of days of minicamp because of that crazy college rule they have. I don't know if he's really overtaken that time missed, but he brings a lot to us because of his size and big hands.

Chris Davis, on the other hand, brings a real asset to us because we don't have that quickness we could use in the slot that we lost with Bobby Wade. Chris is going to be a good help as well.

mainly because I've never heard of the guy.

 

[NorrisB]

Translation -- - Chris Henry is unlikely to start this year because he's a tad clueless on the offense and has a poor feel for being an actual RB

No way. Really? But he was so productive in college. The Titans got Mamula-ed.

Agreed. The fact that Henry has been underwhelming thus far is not a surprise at all. Does anyone have an example of player that bad in college (not due to injury) but had great physical attributes and really excelled once they reached the NFL? I've been trying to think of a couple players and couldn't think of any.

Willie Parker did very very little at North Carolina. He was miscast as Bunting wanted him to become a power runner.

Bunting was a horrible coach, as bad as Coker

 

[FFRainKing]

Translation -- - Chris Henry is unlikely to start this year because he's a tad clueless on the offense and has a poor feel for being an actual RB

No way. Really? But he was so productive in college. The Titans got Mamula-ed.

Agreed. The fact that Henry has been underwhelming thus far is not a surprise at all. Does anyone have an example of player that bad in college (not due to injury) but had great physical attributes and really excelled once they reached the NFL? I've been trying to think of a couple players and couldn't think of any.

Willie Parker did very very little at North Carolina. He was miscast as Bunting wanted him to become a power runner.

Is there any indication that Henry was miscast or is there a "reason" for his lack of productivity besides not being a good football player?

Preist Holmes wasn't drafted but he played behind Ricky Williams and was on some very good Texas teams. Can't easily locate any college stats but am sure they were better than Henry or Parker.In his senior year, Terrell Davis only ran for 445 yards on 67 carries but he also had injury issues and in his last two games were great, rushing for 113 and 121 yards respectively. Only had 824 yards on 167 carries in his junior year. (courtesy of Wikipedia)There was an article awhile back from a TEN coach that Henry was misused at UoA but maybe was just part of jusitfying the draft choice?

 

[waylander]

A coach giving a reason for a pick and us saying thats them justifying it doesn't make any sense to me. Aren't they the same thing? Obviously everyone feels that they have a good chance of producing or they wouldn't draft them.

 

[FFRainKing]

A coach giving a reason for a pick and us saying thats them justifying it doesn't make any sense to me. Aren't they the same thing? Obviously everyone feels that they have a good chance of producing or they wouldn't draft them.

Don't get hung up on my use of semantics in this case, maybe "justiyfing" was a poor choice of words. The TEN coach was make an anlysis of what Henry did in college and I'm just trying to answer Banger's question about Herny being "miscast" from the Titan's persepctive.

The fact that he rushed for only 581 yards last year and started only seven games in his career worried the Titans a little, at least until they looked into the reasons why.

"When I went to work this guy out, I knew that his personal workout was not equal to what you saw on film, so there has to be a reason why," Smith said. "We did our homework, talking to the coaching staff there, talking to other people. As I related to the (Tennessee) coaches, quite clearly, the kid had the ability. It was the system that kept him from being productive. As we worked him out you could see the power, the explosion, the quickness and the hands."

"Smith" is Titans running back coach Sherman Smith.

 

[Pick]

I didn't know that Roydell was doing so well to get some praise from Chow, so that was a nice bonus.

I think Roydell was also getting some love late last year.

 

[gman8343]

Justin Gage, WR TEN

News: In an interview with CBS SportsLine, Titans offensive coordinator Norm Chow was pleased with new Titans WR Justin Gage's work with the club since signing with them this offseason. "He's made some big plays for us (in camp)," Chow said. "I think he's going to be a playmaker. He can jump, he can run, he's a bigger target. I think he's had a good spring, too."

 

[LHUCKS]

That sound you hear is all the Henry pimpers rushing back to the Chris Henry threads to delete their posts...I love it when people argue for a player that they've never seen play. Especially when they are arguing with someone like me who has pretty much seen every carry of Henry's pathetic career.

I lost a lot of respect for Fisher's talent evaluation ability when he drafted Henry in the 2nd...I know he's not the only voice, but I did believe he would know better than to condone this trainwreck of a pick.

As far as Henry lacking instincts...I've been saying this since the day he ran the sub 4.4 at the combine.

 

[nygiants56]

Translation -- - Chris Henry is unlikely to start this year because he's a tad clueless on the offense and has a poor feel for being an actual RB- if Lendale keeps working hard and stays in shape, he'll get carries. Otherwise, his fat *** will sit on the bench- Chris Brown is still the front-runner to start, because Lendale is lazy- None of the WRs stand out currently; Chow has no idea who will push ahead before the season starts

I'll add: - without a proven running game, VY will look more like Kordell Stewart than John Elway, this season.

 

[AnonymousBob]

That sound you hear is all the Henry pimpers rushing back to the Chris Henry threads to delete their posts...I love it when people argue for a player that they've never seen play. Especially when they are arguing with someone like me who has pretty much seen every carry of Henry's pathetic career.I lost a lot of respect for Fisher's talent evaluation ability when he drafted Henry in the 2nd...I know he's not the only voice, but I did believe he would know better than to condone this trainwreck of a pick.As far as Henry lacking instincts...I've been saying this since the day he ran the sub 4.4 at the combine.

If only I were as talented as LHUCKS...I'd quit my job and become a professional fantasy footballer.What, you've never made a bad call? You're a fantasy God amongst mere men. We get it. Now shut up and quit tooting your own horn all the damned time.

 

[LHUCKS]

What, you've never made a bad call? You're a fantasy God amongst mere men. We get it. Now shut up

Tool

 

[RC94]

Anything new here? Most of the TEN WRs are available in my dynasty league and I was thinking about picking one of them up as a deep-roster flyer.

 

[phthalatemagic]

I love it when people argue for a player that they've never seen play.

To be fair NO ONE has seen Chris Henry play, not even his UA teammates.

 

[waylander]

Anything new here? Most of the TEN WRs are available in my dynasty league and I was thinking about picking one of them up as a deep-roster flyer.

I'm assuming by most, you mean everyone but BJones. So if that's the case, David Givens could have a productive 2nd half of the season, and may be a good bye week fill in. If you are wanting someone to play with all year, I think Chris Davis is going to be the only other option. He should get Bobby Wades touches from last year, and will also return some.As far as fantasy value, I think Vince Young and a TE will have the most value. However, one of the running backs has a good chance of putting up decent numbers. However, which one is beyond me.Look at Travis Henry's stats from last year. I know a lot of people feel that he single handedly carried the Titans and that they have a very slim chance of getting that kind of production out of the current stable of running backs, but I disagree.During the first three weeks of the season...Week 1: 9 attempts 22 yards 2.4 average 2 TDsWeek 2: Did not playWeek 3: 21 attempts 60 yards 2.9 average 0 TDsAverage over the first three weeks: 15 attempts 41 yards 2.65 average 1 TDAverage rank of opponents' rush defense: 16thThen Vince Young entered the lineup...Week 4: Did not playWeek 5: 19 attempts 123 yards 6.5 average 0 TDsWeek 6: 32 attempts 178 yards 5.6 average 1 TDWeek 7: ByeWeek 8: 15 attempts 29 yards 1.9 average 0 TDsWeek 9: 19 attempts 67 yards 3.5 average 0 TDsWeek 10: 27 attemtps 107 yards 4.0 average 1 TDWeek 11: 18 attempts 143 yards 7.9 average 1 TDWeek 12: 12 attempts 27 yards 2.3 average 0 TDsWeek 13: 20 attempts 93 yards 4.7 average 0 TDsWeek 14: 20 attempts 88 yards 4.4 average 2 TDsWeek 15: 12 attempts 37 yards 3.1 average 0 TDsWeek 16: 25 attempts 135 yards 5.4 average 0 TDsWeek 17: 21 attempts 102 yards 4.9 average 0 TDsAverage over the last 14 weeks: 20 attempts 94 yards 4.7 average 0.4 TDsAverage rank of opponents' rush defense: 18thThese statistics not only tell me that Henry was facing easier competition down the stretch, but also that Young's entrance into the lineup eased up the running lanes. Only when Vince entered the lineup did Henry break 100 yards.I stole the stats from a thread on the TOMB.

 

[ivnabru]

Anything new here? Most of the TEN WRs are available in my dynasty league and I was thinking about picking one of them up as a deep-roster flyer.

Givens maybe, although he probably isn't worth anything this year. Has a good shot at being productive in '08.If your league gives return yards then Chris Davis is nice (should be PR and slot WR). Which equates to maybe 30-40 receptions (although Welker got 60 as Miami's slot guy last year) with low TDs and low yardage/reception. I'd say 35/300/2 is about the best case scenario for Davis this year.If you're looking towards the future, Paul Williams might be the best bet. Lot of downside, but he has the talent to become a WR1 or 2 in the near future (see '08 or '09) if a lot of things turn out right.Justin Gage is the favorite for WR2 this year, and if he lands that job he could be a viable fantasy option too. Although I can't imagine him having much value past '07.

 

[waylander]

I think Paul Williams has a great chance of being a productive NFL WR. It may not be this year, but all of these young guys are going to get the chance to show their mettle. I wouldn't expect anyone to have a great season as far as fantasy production.

 

[Ford Prefect]

No more love for Roydell?

 

[Bri]

- None of the WRs stand out currently; Chow has no idea who will push ahead before the season starts

True but it's a good thing. Roydell has looked really good. Roby, whom many said was too raw when he was drafted, "gets it" now and they're liking his improvement. Justin Gage....Fisher just loves that guy, it bugs me after his Chicago days trying to predict how he'll do.Brandon Jones is more "steady eddy" right now, I have not read anything negative about him. Vince still loves him, What more do you want from Brandon type thoughts really.They very well could have had all these players struggling like...err well like last year and the year before.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I think the TEN WR's might very well be similar to NE's WR's the past few yrs. You'll never know which one will put up the stats since they are all very similar, but there will be one guy each week that many owners wished that they started. Could flip a coin and probably have better odds than guessing which will perform.

I do think that too many are pimping B. Jones as the TEN guy when he's really done about nothing. Buyer beware because Roydell, Roby or anyone else could be "the guy" just as easily!

 

[Symbius]

Justin Gage, WR TENNews: In an interview with CBS SportsLine, Titans offensive coordinator Norm Chow was pleased with new Titans WR Justin Gage's work with the club since signing with them this offseason. "He's made some big plays for us (in camp)," Chow said. "I think he's going to be a playmaker. He can jump, he can run, he's a bigger target. I think he's had a good spring, too."

Looked that way when he was here in Chicago as well. Amazing camps and pre-season catches. Makes the team... goes out on gameday and stinks up the place.Take a flier on him in a dynasty and hope for the best, but as far as redraft goes just avoid completely. I'd be shocked if he broke 25 catches on the year.