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Tense moments in Bills draft room (1 Viewer)

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Very Tense Moment On Draft Day

by Chris Brown, Lead Journalist Last Updated: 5/4/2007 12:44 PM ET

There's no question there were some anxious moments last Saturday as the Bills painstakingly tried to move back into the bottom of the first round to take sliding linebacker Paul Posluszny and found no takers. Ultimately Buffalo was able to land him in the top of the second round, but believe it or not there was a moment later on day one that trumped the tension before the Posluszny pick.

As Buffalo's third-round selection (#92) approached it became obvious to the Bills that Stanford quarterback Trent Edwards was their only realistic option in terms of value. No other player on the board was close to him in terms of grade.

The only fear was having another team leapfrog Buffalo and take the sliding quarterback before the Bills 92nd pick. That fear came a lot closer to being reality when the Saints called Buffalo's draft room four choices prior to the Bills' selection.

"New Orleans had called about a trade and gave us an offer and we turned it down," said Bills head of college scouting Tom Modrak.

The Saints had just taken Akron guard Andy Alleman with the 88th overall pick, but were apparently determined to trade back into the bottom of round three. Armed with two fourth-round picks and a fifth-round selection New Orleans had the ammunition necessary to pull off a deal.

Even though Modrak denied them the opportunity he knew the Saints would continue to try and find a trade partner in that area of the round.

Worse still with just two quarterbacks on the Saints' roster, including aging veteran Jamie Martin, the prospect of them trying to take a young quarterback was very realistic.

The picks slowly closed in on Buffalo's selection.

Green Bay at pick 89 took Virginia Tech safety Aaron Rouse, Philadelphia grabbed Penn State running back Tony Hunt with the 90th pick. New England was suddenly on the clock and the Bills were on deck. All seemed well. The Patriots had a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback in Tom Brady and a young backup they like in Matt Cassel. The threat of a quarterback pick was minimal.

That was until word came down that New England was trading the pick away. Was it New Orleans?

"Our assumption was that the Saints were going to try to make a trade with New England when we heard the Patriots were making a trade," said Modrak. "The Saints were trying to make a trade with everyone in that area. So we assumed it was them and my feeling was New Orleans wanted a quarterback."

But time was running out on the Patriots to complete the trade. Bills equipment manager Dave Hojnowski, who works at the Bills draft table in New York City every year, was on the phone with Bills head athletic trainer Bud Carpenter in Buffalo's draft room at One Bills Drive, and told him that the clock was winding down on New England.

"The Patriots got down to about 45 seconds left and the two guys that take the cards from the teams up to the head table suddenly go running from the Patriots table all the way across the room to the Oakland table," said Hojnowski. "In the meantime I'm telling Bud on the other end of the phone that we have 30 seconds before the pick is over. So Bud gives me Trent Edwards' name to write down so we have the card filled out."

Hojnowski is so busy filling out the card that he doesn't mention to Carpenter that Oakland is the team that has made the trade with New England.

So back in the Bills draft room the head decision makers are still fearful that New Orleans is the trade partner.

Meanwhile in New York a league representative approaches Buffalo's table.

"The guy from the league table sends one of his assistants to come to our table," said Hojnowski. "At this point the time has expired and we're on the clock officially. However they didn't turn the clock over up front, but our runner was taking our card up to the front with our pick."

The trade had taken so long to consummate between New England and Oakland that Buffalo was now in position to jump ahead of them and make their selection first. They wanted to try and get their pick (Edwards) in before the other team whose identity was still not known to the Bills brass back in Buffalo. They thought the other team wanted Edwards too.

As Buffalo's runner is heading for the league table to turn in the Edwards pick, the other runner leaves from the Raiders' table with Oakland's card. Hojnowski is adamant that Buffalo's card arrived first.

"I know our card got in there first and all of a sudden the league decided they were going to accept the Raiders' card," said Hojnowski.

"The league said it was a tie," said Modrak. "I guess you had to be there."

Buffalo's draft room was silent. Hojnowski ran back to the Bills table and got back on the phone.

"It's Oakland," he said. "The league is letting them pick first."

While this didn't please the Bills in the draft room, they were somewhat relieved it wasn't New Orleans. Then Oakland's pick was announced.

'With the 91st pick the Oakland Raiders select Mario Henderson, offensive tackle, Florida State.'

Modrak jokingly snapped his fingers as if Henderson was the player Buffalo wanted all along, but a smile quickly crossed his face.

"Oakland did us a favor by being the team that traded with New England," said Modrak. "If it was New Orleans odds are it would have been the guy we wanted. So it worked out well for us. We got our guy."

Buffalo promptly took Edwards and the rest is draft history. But for the head men in Buffalo's draft room and for Hojnowski at the draft table in New York City it was an edge of their seat moment.

"As many years as I've been going to the draft that was probably the tensest moment," said Hojnowski. "It was crazy. I was more nervous for the third round pick than any first round pick that I've ever had to write down on a card."

"That was as tight as it's been since I've been here on that type of thing," said Modrak. "The anxiety of moving up to get Poz was there on day one, but there's space in between the picks you were waiting to come down on him. With Edwards everything was jammed into a few seconds. It was a heart in your throat moment."
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4770
 
Cool story, I'd love to see more of this type of behind the scenes stuff during the draft coverage.

I'm sure the teams don't want to be tipping their hands on the live broadcast though.

 
Cool story, I'd love to see more of this type of behind the scenes stuff during the draft coverage.I'm sure the teams don't want to be tipping their hands on the live broadcast though.
Still would be alright to see behind the scene stuff the next day or so. I'm interested what players teams wanted and didn't get, trades offers they didn't take, etc...
 
Very Tense Moment On Draft Day
"New Orleans had called about a trade and gave us an offer and we turned it down," said Bills head of college scouting Tom Modrak.

The Saints had just taken Akron guard Andy Alleman with the 88th overall pick, but were apparently determined to trade back into the bottom of round three. Armed with two fourth-round picks and a fifth-round selection New Orleans had the ammunition necessary to pull off a deal.
:football: WOW! They must have really wanted to get Edwards if they turned down 3 picks to assure that position.

Or am I reading that wrong?

"I know our card got in there first and all of a sudden the league decided they were going to accept the Raiders' card," said Hojnowski.

"The league said it was a tie," said Modrak.
Not that it mattered....but.....Friggin' Pats! :thumbup:

 
WOW! They must have really wanted to get Edwards if they turned down 3 picks to assure that position.Or am I reading that wrong?
you're reading it wrong. there is no mention of what the offer was. the point being made is that the Saints had enough ammunition to move up to the bottom of round 3 and all they needed to find was a willing trade partner. I'm sure the price would have been reasonable given the pick value chart.the Raiders gave up their 7th round pick this year and their 3rd round pick next year to move up to the Pats spot. The Saints offer probably didn't appeal to the Pats since they already had so many Day 2 picks and a future 3rd from the Raiders was likely going to be much higher than a future 3rd from the Saints.
 
"I know our card got in there first and all of a sudden the league decided they were going to accept the Raiders' card," said Hojnowski. "The league said it was a tie," said Modrak.
Not that it mattered....but.....Friggin' Pats! :lmao:
This would make a very interesting story if Oakland had taken Edwards. I'm sure we would have been reading much more about this.
 
WOW! They must have really wanted to get Edwards if they turned down 3 picks to assure that position.Or am I reading that wrong?
you're reading it wrong. there is no mention of what the offer was. the point being made is that the Saints had enough ammunition to move up to the bottom of round 3 and all they needed to find was a willing trade partner. I'm sure the price would have been reasonable given the pick value chart.the Raiders gave up their 7th round pick this year and their 3rd round pick next year to move up to the Pats spot. The Saints offer probably didn't appeal to the Pats since they already had so many Day 2 picks and a future 3rd from the Raiders was likely going to be much higher than a future 3rd from the Saints.
Sounds like the Pats didn't really like this draft class. They traded away a bunch of picks for picks in next years draft. They should have an interestind draft, especially if the Browns pick turns out to be what some think.
 
What I found interesting is that apparently the Bills REALLY WANTED Edwards.

It' one thing to say that they drafted the best value on the Board. It's another to be hoping several picks ahead of time that a certain player falls. In this case it was a QB.

So instead of it being the Bills simply picked a young QB because he represented the greatest value on the board at the time, its they REALLY WANTED and HOPED that this young QB would fall to them - despite the fact that they already have a young QB.

 
What I found interesting is that apparently the Bills REALLY WANTED Edwards.It' one thing to say that they drafted the best value on the Board. It's another to be hoping several picks ahead of time that a certain player falls. In this case it was a QB.So instead of it being the Bills simply picked a young QB because he represented the greatest value on the board at the time, its they REALLY WANTED and HOPED that this young QB would fall to them - despite the fact that they already have a young QB.
I thought that was the most interesting part as well. I don't believe it's indicative of concerns about Losman as the starter, but is a sign that they aren't too comfortable with Nall as the #2. But, it also sounds like Edwards was the clear best player available to them and had been for some time before their pick came up. Had they missed out on him, they likely would have had to reach for a player that didn't really stand out on their draft board. So, him being there made it an easy selection given his grade compared to everyone else available.
 
What I found interesting is that apparently the Bills REALLY WANTED Edwards.It' one thing to say that they drafted the best value on the Board. It's another to be hoping several picks ahead of time that a certain player falls. In this case it was a QB.So instead of it being the Bills simply picked a young QB because he represented the greatest value on the board at the time, its they REALLY WANTED and HOPED that this young QB would fall to them - despite the fact that they already have a young QB.
Trent Edwards is awful. He completed 56.3% of his passes in his college career, with 36 TD and 33 INT. He also lost a ton of games. All he has going for him is that he's 6'4".
 
Sounds to me like the Bills had a high second round grade on Edwards, especially since Chris Brown already said that they got 3 players that they had ranked among the top 2 at their position.

 
What I found interesting is that apparently the Bills REALLY WANTED Edwards.It' one thing to say that they drafted the best value on the Board. It's another to be hoping several picks ahead of time that a certain player falls. In this case it was a QB.So instead of it being the Bills simply picked a young QB because he represented the greatest value on the board at the time, its they REALLY WANTED and HOPED that this young QB would fall to them - despite the fact that they already have a young QB.
Trent Edwards is awful. He completed 56.3% of his passes in his college career, with 36 TD and 33 INT. He also lost a ton of games. All he has going for him is that he's 6'4".
Quinn's wasn't that much higher but yet played with a lot more talent. Name even one player on offense that Edwards played with. He played on absolutely dreadful teams with horrendous offensive lines and pathetic receivers.
 
What I found interesting is that apparently the Bills REALLY WANTED Edwards.It' one thing to say that they drafted the best value on the Board. It's another to be hoping several picks ahead of time that a certain player falls. In this case it was a QB.So instead of it being the Bills simply picked a young QB because he represented the greatest value on the board at the time, its they REALLY WANTED and HOPED that this young QB would fall to them - despite the fact that they already have a young QB.
Trent Edwards is awful. He completed 56.3% of his passes in his college career, with 36 TD and 33 INT. He also lost a ton of games. All he has going for him is that he's 6'4".
Quinn's wasn't that much higher but yet played with a lot more talent. Name even one player on offense that Edwards played with. He played on absolutely dreadful teams with horrendous offensive lines and pathetic receivers.
Quinn's wasn't that much higher? You think 95 TD and 39 INT is comparable to 36 TD and 33 INT? (Not to mention 37TD/7INT senior year, compared to 6TD/6INT for Edwards). The guy's a chump.
 
Quinn's wasn't that much higher? You think 95 TD and 39 INT is comparable to 36 TD and 33 INT? (Not to mention 37TD/7INT senior year, compared to 6TD/6INT for Edwards). The guy's a chump.
I'm a little skeptical about Edwards b/c I was not impressed in the few chances I got to see him play. But, college stats rarely tell the whole story about a player. The scouting reports on him make it sound like he never had any time to do anything playing behind an awful line.As a Cal fan, I'm guessing you saw him play quite a bit. Why do you think so many NFL teams gave him a 2nd round grade?
 
Quinn's wasn't that much higher? You think 95 TD and 39 INT is comparable to 36 TD and 33 INT? (Not to mention 37TD/7INT senior year, compared to 6TD/6INT for Edwards). The guy's a chump.
I'm a little skeptical about Edwards b/c I was not impressed in the few chances I got to see him play. But, college stats rarely tell the whole story about a player. The scouting reports on him make it sound like he never had any time to do anything playing behind an awful line.As a Cal fan, I'm guessing you saw him play quite a bit. Why do you think so many NFL teams gave him a 2nd round grade?
I think he got a high grade because he was highly rated coming out of high school, and is 6'4". I can't imagine anyone saw anything in his college game tape that suggested he could play in the NFL.
 
Quinn's wasn't that much higher? You think 95 TD and 39 INT is comparable to 36 TD and 33 INT? (Not to mention 37TD/7INT senior year, compared to 6TD/6INT for Edwards). The guy's a chump.
I'm a little skeptical about Edwards b/c I was not impressed in the few chances I got to see him play. But, college stats rarely tell the whole story about a player. The scouting reports on him make it sound like he never had any time to do anything playing behind an awful line.As a Cal fan, I'm guessing you saw him play quite a bit. Why do you think so many NFL teams gave him a 2nd round grade?
I think he got a high grade because he was highly rated coming out of high school, and is 6'4". I can't imagine anyone saw anything in his college game tape that suggested he could play in the NFL.
What did you think of Marshawn?
 
What did you think of Marshawn?
Incredible runner. Does things I've never seen anyone else do. May need some time to adjust to the pro game, especially in terms of getting north-south more quickly, but I expect him to be a big success. (And I did not say that about JJ Arrington).
 
CalBear said:
D_House said:
What did you think of Marshawn?
May need some time to adjust to the pro game, especially in terms of getting north-south more quickly,
This is a huge concern to me. I like what I have seen of his highlights but the NFL game is much faster it will be interesting to see how he responds. I can see him getting tackeled for losses early on due to trying to make too many moves before he even gets to the line of scrimmage.
 
CalBear said:
T Man said:
What I found interesting is that apparently the Bills REALLY WANTED Edwards.It' one thing to say that they drafted the best value on the Board. It's another to be hoping several picks ahead of time that a certain player falls. In this case it was a QB.So instead of it being the Bills simply picked a young QB because he represented the greatest value on the board at the time, its they REALLY WANTED and HOPED that this young QB would fall to them - despite the fact that they already have a young QB.
Trent Edwards is awful. He completed 56.3% of his passes in his college career, with 36 TD and 33 INT. He also lost a ton of games. All he has going for him is that he's 6'4".
I have read on more than one outlet that 20 of his 33 INT came from balls bouncing off his WR's hands.Not to mention that he played on a horrible team. I never saw him play, so I don't know if the team was horrible beause of him, or if it was the lack of surrounding team.I like the pick.
 
CalBear said:
T Man said:
What I found interesting is that apparently the Bills REALLY WANTED Edwards.It' one thing to say that they drafted the best value on the Board. It's another to be hoping several picks ahead of time that a certain player falls. In this case it was a QB.So instead of it being the Bills simply picked a young QB because he represented the greatest value on the board at the time, its they REALLY WANTED and HOPED that this young QB would fall to them - despite the fact that they already have a young QB.
Trent Edwards is awful. He completed 56.3% of his passes in his college career, with 36 TD and 33 INT. He also lost a ton of games. All he has going for him is that he's 6'4".
I have read on more than one outlet that 20 of his 33 INT came from balls bouncing off his WR's hands.Not to mention that he played on a horrible team. I never saw him play, so I don't know if the team was horrible beause of him, or if it was the lack of surrounding team.I like the pick.
Keep in mind that you're talking about Edwards with someone whose favorite football clip is his team cavorting through it's arch-rival's obnoxious band on the way to one of the most unlikely TD's in college history. :PThe Stanford football team has a solid claim on being the worst Division 1A school over the last two seasons. They were embarrassingly bad. Edwards had zero help. It's really hard to judge his talent based upon that, so I'm sure this is based upon his Wonderlic and his workouts. Maybe he'll work out, and maybe he won't. :goodposting:
 
CalBear said:
D_House said:
What did you think of Marshawn?
Incredible runner. Does things I've never seen anyone else do. May need some time to adjust to the pro game, especially in terms of getting north-south more quickly, but I expect him to be a big success. (And I did not say that about JJ Arrington).
:thumbdown: good to hear.
Ah, a holder of the 1.03 pick>hi
No, even better - a Bills fan. :thumbdown:
 
Edwards had no help at Stanford, especially last season as injuries wiped out the receiving corps there. I live in California and got to watch Stanford play a number of times and frankly, every time they snapped the ball on offense the o-line resembled the starting gate at a horse race. They gave up 50 sacks last season - it was brutal. I think Edwards can be a decent QB in the league, provided he can recover mentally and physically from the beatings he took.

 
This is why I love's Shanny's style the past two years. They have had players they wanted, and made the moves to move up and make sure they get them. Sure they might reach a bit (some would say they did with Moss), but I'd rather reach a bit and get the player you want, rather then sit back and hope that nobody leapfrogs you (ala chiefs and quinn).

 
I wonder if you're going to see more of these types of timing disputes with them shortening the rounds next year.

 

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