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Texans at Chargers Monday Night Game Thread (1 Viewer)
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GregR
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Thing I learned from the first 7 years of the Texans history... bad teams find ways to lose games like this one, and good teams find ways to win them. Back then Texans were always on the losing end. I wouldn't have put money on Texans coming back 21, but they've done it enough it doesn't surprise me either. They are confident they can win games like this after having pulled a number out the last two years.
Michael Brown
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Come on man, you predicted Rivers would throw an ill-advised, horribly timed pick-6. That ranks somewhere between sky being blue and sun rising on degree of difficulty.
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Ignoramus
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Come on man, you predicted Rivers would throw an ill-advised, horribly timed pick-6. That ranks somewhere between sky being blue and sun rising on degree of difficulty.
GregR
Footballguy
I searched for the rule on the center. I don't have any exact text as I don't have a 2013 rule book yet. But found an article that said the center is now considered a defenseless player. Which means he gets the same protection of a QB throwing, a receiver making a catch, etc. Which basically means you can't hit them in the head or neck.
I'm guessing the ref threw the flag because Cam Thomas's knee hits the center in the head as he tries to go around/over him. It was enough to knock his head back a bit so it was noticeable.
Not saying it's a good call or enough contact to warrant a flag. But I think that's what the ref was making the call based on.
Edit to add: Watching the live play frame by frame was the angle that showed what the ref would have seen best. Couldn't really see it on the overhead replay.
I'm guessing the ref threw the flag because Cam Thomas's knee hits the center in the head as he tries to go around/over him. It was enough to knock his head back a bit so it was noticeable.
Not saying it's a good call or enough contact to warrant a flag. But I think that's what the ref was making the call based on.
Edit to add: Watching the live play frame by frame was the angle that showed what the ref would have seen best. Couldn't really see it on the overhead replay.
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BigSteelThrill
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I recall in that "down by __ thread" how a bunch of dorks wanted to state that momentum meant nothing. As if they had never actually watched a sporting event in their life.
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Beerguzzler
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Pathetic is the only word that comes to mind.
GroveDiesel
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Being a Chargers fan must be a lot like being a Bills fan these days.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
GD it, what a gut punch, well at least I have no illusions of this team being good, Man they looked decent for 3 quarter. Yikes
I dunno. I've watched/played a lot of sports and I don't think it is as powerful as people make it out to be. I think we only notice when it seems to work and just think "wow, what an amazing play" when a team shirks the momentum, forgetting that momentum has just been broken. If we could do a statistical study, I'd say momentum holds up precisely 50% of the time
It was fun to watch, but the Texans didn't really find a way to win this game. We got a lucky penalty, a couple lucky drops, and a great low probability defensive play. Without any one of those things, they probably lose and most of those were out of the Texans' control.
People are going to pile on Rivers, but that 3rd down pass to Avery was absolutely perfect.
Ignoratio Elenchi
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This is exactly what the "dorks" were trying in vain to explain to the dunces that kept repeating fallacious arguments about "keeping it a one-possession game," etc. Hell, in the other game last night, Washington "had all the momentum" in the 4th quarter, but they still lost. Why didn't the "amazing power of momentum" assure them of victory, too?I dunno. I've watched/played a lot of sports and I don't think it is as powerful as people make it out to be. I think we only notice when it seems to work and just think "wow, what an amazing play" when a team shirks the momentum, forgetting that momentum has just been broken. If we could do a statistical study, I'd say momentum holds up precisely 50% of the time
Ignoratio Elenchi
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Of course, and "clock running out" was another thing that the PAT-first crowd seemed to completely misunderstand in that thread. But no need to dredge it all up again - IIRC that was a rare example where by the end of the thread, most people were in agreement about the right answer.
ConnSKINS26
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Because onside kicks are hard.This is exactly what the "dorks" were trying in vain to explain to the dunces that kept repeating fallacious arguments about "keeping it a one-possession game," etc. Hell, in the other game last night, Washington "had all the momentum" in the 4th quarter, but they still lost. Why didn't the "amazing power of momentum" assure them of victory, too?I dunno. I've watched/played a lot of sports and I don't think it is as powerful as people make it out to be. I think we only notice when it seems to work and just think "wow, what an amazing play" when a team shirks the momentum, forgetting that momentum has just been broken. If we could do a statistical study, I'd say momentum holds up precisely 50% of the time
Ignoratio Elenchi
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But they should be vastly easier when you have all the momentum.Because onside kicks are hard.This is exactly what the "dorks" were trying in vain to explain to the dunces that kept repeating fallacious arguments about "keeping it a one-possession game," etc. Hell, in the other game last night, Washington "had all the momentum" in the 4th quarter, but they still lost. Why didn't the "amazing power of momentum" assure them of victory, too?I dunno. I've watched/played a lot of sports and I don't think it is as powerful as people make it out to be. I think we only notice when it seems to work and just think "wow, what an amazing play" when a team shirks the momentum, forgetting that momentum has just been broken. If we could do a statistical study, I'd say momentum holds up precisely 50% of the time
ConnSKINS26
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This isn't a conversation I'm interested in reviving, but I'm pretty sure even the "supporters" of momentum and it's importance in sports would tell you that's not how it works.But they should be vastly easier when you have all the momentum.Because onside kicks are hard.This is exactly what the "dorks" were trying in vain to explain to the dunces that kept repeating fallacious arguments about "keeping it a one-possession game," etc. Hell, in the other game last night, Washington "had all the momentum" in the 4th quarter, but they still lost. Why didn't the "amazing power of momentum" assure them of victory, too?I dunno. I've watched/played a lot of sports and I don't think it is as powerful as people make it out to be. I think we only notice when it seems to work and just think "wow, what an amazing play" when a team shirks the momentum, forgetting that momentum has just been broken. If we could do a statistical study, I'd say momentum holds up precisely 50% of the time
Ignoratio Elenchi
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Weird, because that's EXACTLY what they were saying - that teams should defer the 2 pt conversion until later in the game because they'll have more momentum at that point and therefore they will be significantly more likely to successfully convert the try.This isn't a conversation I'm interested in reviving, but I'm pretty sure even the "supporters" of momentum and it's importance in sports would tell you that's not how it works.But they should be vastly easier when you have all the momentum.Because onside kicks are hard.This is exactly what the "dorks" were trying in vain to explain to the dunces that kept repeating fallacious arguments about "keeping it a one-possession game," etc. Hell, in the other game last night, Washington "had all the momentum" in the 4th quarter, but they still lost. Why didn't the "amazing power of momentum" assure them of victory, too?I dunno. I've watched/played a lot of sports and I don't think it is as powerful as people make it out to be. I think we only notice when it seems to work and just think "wow, what an amazing play" when a team shirks the momentum, forgetting that momentum has just been broken. If we could do a statistical study, I'd say momentum holds up precisely 50% of the time
ConnSKINS26
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Unless I'm missing something, what does that have to do with kicking and recovering an onside kick?I can believe that waiting to go for 2 until you've got the D reeling even more and worrying they'll be the ones to give the game away, is a good idea. That's something like momentum. Plus scoring a "TD" from the 2-yard line, which is basically what a 2-pt conversion is, is something that teams do multiple times a game, every game, across the league.Weird, because that's EXACTLY what they were saying - that teams should defer the 2 pt conversion until later in the game because they'll have more momentum at that point and therefore they will be significantly more likely to successfully convert the try.This isn't a conversation I'm interested in reviving, but I'm pretty sure even the "supporters" of momentum and it's importance in sports would tell you that's not how it works.But they should be vastly easier when you have all the momentum.Because onside kicks are hard.This is exactly what the "dorks" were trying in vain to explain to the dunces that kept repeating fallacious arguments about "keeping it a one-possession game," etc. Hell, in the other game last night, Washington "had all the momentum" in the 4th quarter, but they still lost. Why didn't the "amazing power of momentum" assure them of victory, too?I dunno. I've watched/played a lot of sports and I don't think it is as powerful as people make it out to be. I think we only notice when it seems to work and just think "wow, what an amazing play" when a team shirks the momentum, forgetting that momentum has just been broken. If we could do a statistical study, I'd say momentum holds up precisely 50% of the time
I'm having a hard time seeing how that applies to an onside kick, which has got to be one of the lowest percentage plays in football, outside of a Hail Mary, no matter who's got the momentum.
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fruity pebbles
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im still trying to figure out why mathews was in on 20 plays and ronnie 25.
I just saw that on rotoworld. He might be the most obvious tip of the hand in the NFL. If Mathews is in, focus your defense on him. He touched the ball on 75% of his snaps.
fruity pebbles
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Yep if he was in, he was getting the ball. Looked like the Texans figured that out in the 2nd half as well. Every time he was in, he got swarmed.
hoopvillian
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Their underuse and misuse of Mathews is bizarre.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
great coaching.fruity pebbles said:
DanFouts
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NFL announced that the penalty on the field goal was in error. Great. Definitely fixed.
The NFL said Tuesday that the officials in Monday night’s game between the Houston Texans andSan Diego Chargers made an officiating error, marking the third time the league admitted fault with a call in Week 1.
http://tracking.si.com/2013/09/10/nfl-refs-made-incorrect-call-chargers-texans-game/
The NFL said Tuesday that the officials in Monday night’s game between the Houston Texans andSan Diego Chargers made an officiating error, marking the third time the league admitted fault with a call in Week 1.
http://tracking.si.com/2013/09/10/nfl-refs-made-incorrect-call-chargers-texans-game/
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