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Texans camp report: July 28 (1 Viewer)

GregR_2

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Went to the Texans morning training camp today. Here were my impressions.

The defense took the field close to the stands for the first set of unit drills, meaning we didn't have a good view of the receiving drills. :( Not a lot stood out in the drills, though Polk seemed to be a guy who kept dropping passes on interception drills.

Then they moved to various scrimmages, 9-on-9 with no wide receivers, 6 on 7 with no O or D line, 11-on-11, etc. We were split on whether RB Domanic Davis or RB Chris Taylor looked best amongst the RBs, but agreed both looked better than Antowain, Morency and Lundy, none of which seemed to separate themselves from the other 2. Morency had a fumble which the D returned for a TD.

Chris Taylor showed a lot of burst and speed. However I don't recall seeing him run inside at all. Also, these are the non-contact drills and it could be hard to tell if a defender would have had him down or not, so a small fast guy like him is probably going to look better than an Antowain Smith going into a hole in the pile. In any event, I'm planning to keep an eye on him in the preseason games and see how he handles contact as he is a small guy, but he definitely outperformed Smith/Morency/Lundy in the drills in my mind.

DD looked good. I didn't notice any hesitance in his cuts at all and he showed good speed. He looked like he might have been a little heavy, not surprising if he's just getting back to being able to work out fully again. But I didn't see any limping or anything that suggested he was favoring his knee.

Moulds didn't practice that we saw. Carr seemed to zero in on AJ quite a bit in the passing scrimmages they were both in... no surprise there. Of course AJ was getting open more than others, but as in the regular season there were times Carr seemed to not see anything and then just throw it up to let AJ go get it. Most of the time the result was a completion... there was one interception though on a fantastic play by the DB.. no clue who he was, his number wasn't on the roster I took.

AJ looked very good. Walters missed a pass or two he I thought he could have had, but he also had some nice plays including a 50 yard TD. One long-shot WR to keep an eye on was Derrick Lewis. He made several plays that had me looking up his number to see who he was, and showed some good speed. He outran the secondary on one play and would have had a TD but he was overthrown.

Putzier and Joppru both looked pretty good and had some nice catches. Bruener got a lot of reps but didn't get targetted nearly as much. Joppru had a nice touchdown and showed some decent speed for a TE. There were quite a lot of passes going to the TEs, and also quite a few short passes, slants and hooks. They did go deep as well, but the short passing game seemed to be more the norm. (Edit to add: On rookie Owen Daniels, he only drew my notice two or three times... one was in 11-on-11 on a blitz and he apparently didn't make the read because the QB practically hit him with the ball and he had never looked back.)

On the D side during the scrimmages, most of my attention was on Mario Williams. Initially I felt he was getting eaten up at the line on running plays if he was playing an inside gap, but by the end he reversed my opinion and had some running plays I felt he would have dropped at the line or for a loss and held up well against the run block. When he lined up out on the outside, his speed looked hard for the defense to block and I observed he was held a few times. (Of course, this is the Texans pass blocking we're talking about, so use amount of salt you feel appropriate).

I'm generally sparing of praise for Philip Buchanon, but he had one really nice pass defense on AJ. If he can show as much heart in tackling.... speaking of which, I heard on the news last night that Dunta put on 15 lbs of muscle in the off-season, though he didn't look appreciably bigger to me. He still seemed to have good speed and made a few good plays.

I don't know if I'd say the pass blocking looked appreciably better than during the last regular season, but then the pass rush is a lot better and probably has an advantage in the lack of pads. I wouldn't worry about it yet in any event. Keyed in on watching Eric Winston at RT a few plays and he looked good to me. Also I heard comments from others that Charles Spencer was looking very good, but I hadn't focused on him enough to give my own opinion.

 
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Went to the Texans morning training camp today. Here were my impressions.

The defense took the field close to the stands for the first set of unit drills, meaning we didn't have a good view of the receiving drills. :( Not a lot stood out in the drills, though Polk seemed to be a guy who kept dropping passes on interception drills.

Then they moved to various scrimmages, 9-on-9 with no wide receivers, 6 on 7 with no O or D line, 11-on-11, etc. We were split on whether RB Domanic Davis or RB Chris Taylor looked best amongst the RBs, but agreed both looked better than Antowain, Morency and Lundy, none of which seemed to separate themselves from the other 2. Morency had a fumble which the D returned for a TD.

Chris Taylor showed a lot of burst and speed. However I don't recall seeing him run inside at all. Also, these are the non-contact drills and it could be hard to tell if a defender would have had him down or not, so a small fast guy like him is probably going to look better than an Antowain Smith going into a hole in the pile. In any event, I'm planning to keep an eye on him in the preseason games and see how he handles contact as he is a small guy, but he definitely outperformed Smith/Morency/Lundy in the drills in my mind.

DD looked good. I didn't notice any hesitance in his cuts at all and he showed good speed. He looked like he might have been a little heavy, not surprising if he's just getting back to being able to work out fully again. But I didn't see any limping or anything that suggested he was favoring his knee.

Moulds didn't practice that we saw. Carr seemed to zero in on AJ quite a bit in the passing scrimmages they were both in... no surprise there. Of course AJ was getting open more than others, but as in the regular season there were times Carr seemed to not see anything and then just throw it up to let AJ go get it. Most of the time the result was a completion... there was one interception though on a fantastic play by the DB.. no clue who he was, his number wasn't on the roster I took.

AJ looked very good. Walters missed a pass or two he I thought he could have had, but he also had some nice plays including a 50 yard TD. One long-shot WR to keep an eye on was Derrick Lewis. He made several plays that had me looking up his number to see who he was, and showed some good speed. He outran the secondary on one play and would have had a TD but he was overthrown.

Putzier and Joppru both looked pretty good and had some nice catches. Bruener got a lot of reps but didn't get targetted nearly as much. Joppru had a nice touchdown and showed some decent speed for a TE. There were quite a lot of passes going to the TEs, and also quite a few short passes, slants and hooks. They did go deep as well, but the short passing game seemed to be more the norm. (Edit to add: On rookie Owen Daniels, he only drew my notice two or three times... one was in 11-on-11 on a blitz and he apparently didn't make the read because the QB practically hit him with the ball and he had never looked back.)

On the D side during the scrimmages, most of my attention was on Mario Williams. Initially I felt he was getting eaten up at the line on running plays if he was playing an inside gap, but by the end he reversed my opinion and had some running plays I felt he would have dropped at the line or for a loss and held up well against the run block. When he lined up out on the outside, his speed looked hard for the defense to block and I observed he was held a few times. (Of course, this is the Texans pass blocking we're talking about, so use amount of salt you feel appropriate).

I'm generally sparing of praise for Philip Buchanon, but he had one really nice pass defense on AJ. If he can show as much heart in tackling.... speaking of which, I heard on the news last night that Dunta put on 15 lbs of muscle in the off-season, though he didn't look appreciably bigger to me. He still seemed to have good speed and made a few good plays.

I don't know if I'd say the pass blocking looked appreciably better than during the last regular season, but then the pass rush is a lot better and probably has an advantage in the lack of pads. I wouldn't worry about it yet in any event. Keyed in on watching Eric Winston at RT a few plays and he looked good to me. Also I heard comments from others that Charles Spencer was looking very good, but I hadn't focused on him enough to give my own opinion.
fantastic stuff Greg . . . your hard work is appreciated . . .
 
There was a Texans special On local Houston TV last night. The sportscaster was high on Taylor and told the viewers to keep an eye on him.

 
Do the Texans plan on doing a lot of rollouts like Denver has used with Plummer the last couple years, or is that more of a Shanahan play than a Kubiack play?

 
There was a Texans special On local Houston TV last night.  The sportscaster was high on Taylor and told the viewers to keep an eye on him.
I didn't even know who Chris Taylor was until this thread.
see, that's why you're here . . .some quick tidbits . . .

he's 5-11, 214, from Indiana, and he averaged 4.7 a carry last year, he is just lacking experience . . .

 
Sportscaster was interviewing Kubiak. All that was mentioned was that the TE position will play a more significant role this year including 2 TE sets. Not new news but it was interesting to hear it.

I remember a few years ago when D.Davis was an unknown and others were ahead of him on the depth chart. This same TV special and sportscaster said the same thing about Davis.

 
There was a Texans special On local Houston TV last night.   The sportscaster was high on Taylor and told the viewers to keep an eye on him.
I didn't even know who Chris Taylor was until this thread.
see, that's why you're here . . .some quick tidbits . . .

he's 5-11, 214, from Indiana, and he averaged 4.7 a carry last year, he is just lacking experience . . .
On the Texans message board a couple of members mentioned him during OTAs. Same sort of report, regarding his quickness. I will reserve judgment until pads.
 
Great read, much thanks Greg. Are you planning to go more? Would love to hear more updates on DD/Morency

 
D. Ryans participated. I did pay attention to him more than the other LBs, but I really didn't see much to differentiate any LB from the rest.

On Chris Taylor, most if not all of his runs were outside, and each time he got around the corner and then was gone up the sideline, and only a safety or corner with an angle on him got to him. But again, this is without pads and if someone got a hand on him turning the corner (which you can't always see from low bleachers across the field), the play would continue when in reality he might have been tackled.

So I think "someone who bears watching" is the appropriate tag for now.

 
Great read, much thanks Greg. Are you planning to go more? Would love to hear more updates on DD/Morency
Yes, I have passes for Friday Aug 4 and for Wed Aug 16. They had extra passes at the gate that people were leaving as they went through and didn't have a use for, so I might try to show up at a few that I don't have a pass for and see if I can get lucky.
 
Great read, much thanks Greg.  Are you planning to go more?  Would love to hear more updates on DD/Morency
Yes, I have passes for Friday Aug 4 and for Wed Aug 16. They had extra passes at the gate that people were leaving as they went through and didn't have a use for, so I might try to show up at a few that I don't have a pass for and see if I can get lucky.
Sweet, I may try to do this for the Aug 16th. Thanks for the info!
 
Did you notice if either of the rookie OT's were working with the first unit?
Didn't really notice who else was on the field with him. I did notice Winston do a nice job with Mario one time on an outside speed rush. They moved Mario from one side to the other quite a bit.
 
Texans practice report, RB Davis does more

Carmine Pirone

7/28/2006

First day jitters?: The Texans began the 2006 season Friday under a blazing sun in the morning and then beneath the comfort of their practice bubble in the afternoon. They got right to work as the up-tempo mini-camps in June led to a smooth first day as both sides of the ball seemed to be in second week form.

Even though he’s been head coach for a little over seven months, Friday was still Gary Kubiak’s first day at an NFL training camp as head coach. Despite being a part of three Super Bowl Champions as an assistant, his first camp in charge is still not something he’s taking for granted.

“It (the first day) was very exciting,” Kubiak said. “Just driving down Kirby today knowing that I was coming here to do that was pretty exciting. You find out it’s about work, and we have a lot of that to do, and it’s going to be a long process. So you just put your blinders on and go to work.”

Kubiak and the rest of the coaching staff were probably more excited than the players, especially some of the veterans who have been through training camp several times.

“It’s nice to be out here, but to be honest, no one likes to practice, it’s kind of a necessary evil,” tackle Zach Wiegert said. “I can’t say that I enjoy being out here in a 100-degree heat and enjoy being beat up. It’s not that fun. I missed the guys and the locker room, that stuff makes this part of the job bearable.”

Davis back in action: Domanick Davis, who sat out during mini-camp returned to the practice field Friday. Davis, who had been nursing a sore knee, split time with a bevy of other Texans’ running backs, but the fourth-year player out of LSU said he felt fine following Friday morning’s practice.

“I’m feeling pretty good,” Davis said. “I did a little more than they wanted me to do so it’s feeling pretty good. Whenever I start feeling like it’s back to normal then that’s when I’ll do more. I’m kind of pushing it a little more to see how far it’ll let me go without swelling up and it’s not so that’s pretty good.”

Originally Davis was slated for just individual periods Friday morning. Knowing that he’s only going to practice once a day, Davis decided to do more than just position drills.

“I did way more than that because I’m pushing myself a little hard too. It’s not normal but it feels good enough to do it. I’m just going to take it one day at a time and just take it slow.”

On becoming a leader: Davis was just one of many players who talked about leadership Friday. Kubiak put a premium on finding leaders for his new team this offseason and it was hot topic at the first day of training camp

“I’m not the kind of leader that’s going to get out here and talk about doing this and doing that,” Davis said. “I’m going to try to be a leader by what I do. I want to be the leader they can count on when they need me to come through. More actions than anything, you won’t hear me talk or say anything, maybe clown or say something to get the guys to have fun with what we’re doing and that’s it.”

At Wednesday’s pre-camp media gathering, Kubiak pointed out that newcomer Mike Flanagan has quickly establishing himself as a leader.

“A guy like (Mike) Flanagan comes in here and he did have instant respect from a standpoint upfront,” Kubiak said. “He played on a winner at Green Bay and he’s been successful.”

Green Bay in Frank Winters, who played 17, 18 years in this league,” Flanagan said. “From the first day, he was the guy who walked over to me and say, ‘hey, I’m Frank Winters.’ Anytime I had a question, he would help me out. That’s how I learned. It was comfortable for me, it was comfortable for Frank. I mean, let’s be honest, I’m only here as long as I can last, somebody’s got to be ready to step up. If I can help these guys out, I’m going to.”

Flanagan wasn’t ready to anoint himself top dog, he’s been around long enough to know that leadership is earned, not given.

“There’s no set rule in this leadership thing, it’s not given, it’s earned. If (my teammates) consider me that, I would love for that to be part of my role, but I have to earn it first.

Birthday boy: Rookie linebacker DeMeco Ryans will always remember his 22 nd birthday, it was today and fell on his first day of training camp in the NFL.

“A few guys knew it was my birthday,” Ryans said. “I don’t think everybody knows. It’s a grind being in two-a-days so everyone is just focused on doing that. I got a lot of missed calls on my cell phone.”

Injury report: Friday morning saw wide receiver Eric Moulds and rookie tackle Charles Spencer go down with cramps related to the heat. Both players were back in action during the afternoon session.

During the afternoon practice, cornerback Demarcus Faggins made a great play on the ball and collected his first interception of training camp. Unfortunately, Faggins rolled his foot on the play. Kubiak, who was quick to praise Faggins during the offseason, said x-rays will be taken to survey the damage.

http://www.houstontexans.com/

 
Greg, question..are these open to the public?
These are open to the public:Fri Jul 28 8:30 - 11:00am

Sun Jul 30 8:30 - 11:00am

Thu Aug 03 7:15 - 9:15pm

Fri Aug 04 8:30 - 11:00am

Sat Aug 05 8:30 - 11:00am

Wed Aug 16 7:15 - 9:15pm

People who had more tickets than they needed were leaving them at the front gate so you could try just showing up and hope that trend continues. Or stand there and ask people if they have extras. I'm probably going to go do that for Sunday's session if I can get myself up that early.

They were handing the tickets out free at Wachovia branches. In past years I think it was Foleys that distributed them.

 
Is there any reason to believe the Texans' Offensive Line will be any better than in seasons past - when Carr was running for his life?

 
Is there any reason to believe the Texans' Offensive Line will be any better than in seasons past - when Carr was running for his life?
Spencer, Winston, and Flanagan were added. McKinney gets to move from C to his mor natural RG position.

Wand/Pitts have another year of experience.

Mike Sherman was brought in to coach the O-line.

Kubiak will utilize Carr's mobility by moving the pocket and using some roll-outs.

This doesn't indicate drastic improvement to me, but sometimes a lot of small things can add up. Mediocre would be a big step forward, and they might be able to do that.

 
Is there any reason to believe the Texans' Offensive Line will be any better than in seasons past - when Carr was running for his life?
YMMV in trying to decide how much weight to give the player's comments, but I've heard several interviews with players about how it is a night and day difference. Seth Wand pretty much indicated this coaching staff knows how to teach the zone blocking scheme and the last one didn't. I heard a DD interview where he indicated the same sort of thing, and also said that last year it seemed like the staff just kept flipping to whatever style some other team was using that was successful. To me it seemed he was suggesting the last coaching staff was really grasping at straws to fix the problems and just didn't know what they were doing.Of course, players are always optimistic about the year to come, so use appropriate salt as you feel necessary. But everything I've heard has reinforced my view that the Capers regime lost the players the last game of the 2004 season (Browns game where the Texans didn't even show up to play), and never got them back.

 
so we hear Davis is having issues.... who emerges?
from the bits and pieces I am getting from coachspeak and message observations, if the Texans played this weekend with no Davis.A. SmithMorencyChris TaylorLundyProbably some version of RBBC with the first two, but the UDFA Taylor has looked good with the ball in his hands. If Davis does not appear to get any better, I honestly look for some trade for or siging of a boring veteran, who probably will just make this a bigger mess than it is now.
 
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Kubiak on Morency:

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.p...20Latest%20News

Kubiak did just that when approaching Vernand Morency’s running style.

“When I came here, I told him, ‘I don’t like the way you run, you dance too much, spin around too much, and we’re not going to do that. We’re going to go north and south,’” Kubiak said. “He listened and he’s trying to do it the way we want him to do it. I like his progress and I’m looking forward to seeing him in the preseason
 
Kubiak on Morency:

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.p...20Latest%20News

Kubiak did just that when approaching Vernand Morency’s running style.

“When I came here, I told him, ‘I don’t like the way you run, you dance too much, spin around too much, and we’re not going to do that. We’re going to go north and south,’” Kubiak said. “He listened and he’s trying to do it the way we want him to do it. I like his progress and I’m looking forward to seeing him in the preseason
And this is encouraging:

Texans RB Vernand Morency has participated at training camp

Published Tue Aug 1 7:54:00 p.m. ET 2006

(Rotoworld) Texans RB Vernand Morency has participated at training camp.

Impact: Morency appears to be over the plantar fascia that forced him to miss OTAs. Domanick Davis' knee injury gives him a better chance to avoid final cuts.

 

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