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Texans DE A. Weaver Moving To DT (1 Viewer)

i almost picked him up in recent WW but passed... bummer about DT, but maybe not if he can become a rare sack artist from there (he couldn't from DE, but he will have quickness if not strength edge over many interior OL)...

DL comprised of #1 overall mario williams and first rounder jason babin or antwan peek flanking first rounder travis johnson & anthony weaver could surprise...

same with LB trio of cowart, ryans and greenwood...

first rounder dunta robinson has talent & skills to become an elite CB... the other three DBs in the secondary appear to be achilles heel of defense, unless guys like buchanon, c.c. brown & glenn earl can come around...

they are in a tough division with IND & JAX and not likely to compete for playoff spot in 2006, but with addition of kubiak, moulds, putzier & expected improvement of carr & dre johnson on offense, they may be closer to .500 than many give them credit for (after drafting #2 overall in most recent draft)...

 
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they gave him a lot of money. they already have a lot of money invested in Travis Johnson and Robaire Smith at DT, plus Seth Payne is a solid player at NT when healthy.

this is a stupid move, IMO. he's never played DT that I can recall, although DE in a 3-4 maybe isn't that different.

who plays LDE instead of Weaver?

 
The DL that has been lining up in OTAs

LE- williams

LDT- Weaver

RDT- R. smith, Payne

RDE- Peek, Babin

Williams is expected to move inside on passing downs with Weaver, Babin and Peek on the outside.

Aaron,

Yes, 3-4 end has more in common with a 4-3 tackle in terms of skill set and responsibility. Also, as i remember it the concern with Weaver was his pass rushing so he was not anyone I would have had a priority on my IDP list.

In DT required leagues assuming that his position is officailly changed the move actually gives Weaver value as he will be utilized as more of the quick or pentrating DT than the other guys in the rotation.

Finally, Travis Johnson currently has a leg strain and is not practicing, but before that he been running with the third team DL as he had not displayed the type work ethic and effort that the new Texans' staff were demanding. (have links for the T. Johnson stuff) will edit to add them.

Place on depth chart

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...nt/3898818.html

on injury

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...nt/3921801.html

The Texans received good news in the medical update on defensive end Travis Johnson. The No. 1 pick in 2005 suffered a calf strain during practice Wednesday and will only be sidelined for about two weeks.

The Texans were concerned the injury might be more serious. If the healing process goes smoothly, Johnson should be ready for the first day of training camp.

"It's a pretty dang good pull in his calf," Texans coach Gary Kubiak said. "It could have been worse. The good thing is we have time now."
 
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well, I'd also drop Mario Williams a bit based on this as well. I was figuring that he'd be the starter at RDE with Weaver at LDE. I think this makes whoever wins the RDE job a nice value.

 
they gave him a lot of money. they already have a lot of money invested in Travis Johnson and Robaire Smith at DT, plus Seth Payne is a solid player at NT when healthy.

this is a stupid move, IMO. he's never played DT that I can recall, although DE in a 3-4 maybe isn't that different.

who plays LDE instead of Weaver?
He was a DT in college.
 
they gave him a lot of money. they already have a lot of money invested in Travis Johnson and Robaire Smith at DT, plus Seth Payne is a solid player at NT when healthy.

this is a stupid move, IMO. he's never played DT that I can recall, although DE in a 3-4 maybe isn't that different.

who plays LDE instead of Weaver?
He was a DT in college.
:thumbup: sorry, I should have been more clear. I meant to say that I don't think he's played DT since entering the NFL.

 
I see Babin winning the job at RE. For the life of me, I cannot imagine Peek holding-up against the run.
No terms available yet but per houstontexans.com
In the fold: Perhaps no player on the Texans' defense had a larger role than Antwan Peek last year. Today, the defensive end was rewarded for his efforts and production by signing a new deal, general manager Rick Smith announced.

Terms of the contract were not disclosed for the restricted free agent who was chosen by the Texans in the third round (67th overall) of the 2003 NFL Draft out of Cincinnati.
 
I see Babin winning the job at RE. For the life of me, I cannot imagine Peek holding-up against the run.
No terms available yet but per houstontexans.com
In the fold: Perhaps no player on the Texans' defense had a larger role than Antwan Peek last year. Today, the defensive end was rewarded for his efforts and production by signing a new deal, general manager Rick Smith announced.

Terms of the contract were not disclosed for the restricted free agent who was chosen by the Texans in the third round (67th overall) of the 2003 NFL Draft out of Cincinnati.
Assuming the Texans did not overpay, this is a solid signing. The Texans will be very interesting on passing downs with Babin and Peek rushing from the ends and Williams blowing-up the middle.
 
I almost gave up on Peek in a roster purge.... but decided to wait because my league doesn't have a max roster requirement until just prior to the regular season. This move with Weaver is surprising. From what I had read prior to the draft, Peek had the insdie track over Babin, and was expected to win the starting job... till they drafted Williams. Turns out Weaver is the odd man out.

 
I almost gave up on Peek in a roster purge.... but decided to wait because my league doesn't have a max roster requirement until just prior to the regular season. This move with Weaver is surprising. From what I had read prior to the draft, Peek had the insdie track over Babin, and was expected to win the starting job... till they drafted Williams. Turns out Weaver is the odd man out.
I'm fairly certain Weaver will be playing all three downs. If anybody is the odd-man out, it'll be last year's 1st-round pick Travis Johnson.I project the starting foursome as the following:

running downs:

DE: Williams

DT: Weaver

DT: Smith/Johnson

DE: Babin/Peek (even though Peek is currently the leader to start at RE)

passing downs:

DE: Peek

DT: Williams

DT: Weaver

DE: Babin

 
I see Babin winning the job at RE. For the life of me, I cannot imagine Peek holding-up against the run.
:nerd: Texans | Babin's transition to DE going well

Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:22:33 -0700

Megan Manfull, writing for the Sporting News, reports DE Jason Babin continues to impress the coaching staff as he makes his transition from linebacker to defensive end. Babin has spent the majority of the past few weeks with the first team, leaving DE Antwan Peek to work with the second team. Babin lacks height, but the coaches expect him to use his quickness to his advantage.

 
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I like Babin a lot to have a breakout year. He was miscast and now gets a chance to return to playing with his hand on the ground. It sounds like Travis Johnson being a bit of a disappointment is the impetus here.

 
link:

http://www.ffmastermind.com/quickbits.php

-- Texans DE Competition --

Fri Aug 4, 2006 --from FFMastermind.com

The Houston Texans' official website reports Texans DE Antwan Peek and DE Jason Babin continue to battle for the starting job opposite first round draft pick DE Mario Williams, who did not practice during the Friday morning session. "It is a good battle going on," said HC Gary Kubiak. "Jason’s the bigger of the two holding the point, and Antwan is the pass rusher type of guy. They both have something they bring to the table, and I think that battle is going to make that position better for our football team. They’re both going to play. We’re going to rotate people up front, and they both will be a big part of what we’re doing."

 
massraider said:
Boy, anyone else think moving Williams inside on passing downs is a mistake?
My understanding from the guys that are attending camp is that he is lining up in all four spots along the DL depending on the situation. Normally when at end he is likely to be on the strong side . The Texans believe that he can play anywhere along the line because of his unique size/strength/speed combo. the thought is that a large part of Williams job is to make the entire defense better because of the offense having to account for him. On passing downs they want to get their 4 best passer rushers on the field and that he can generate pressure from inside or outside, but Peek and Babin are strickly ends.
 

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