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That Picture Going Around Of The White Advocates For BLM Pinning A Woman Against A Wall From 2020 Makes Me Want To Buy A Gun And Concealed Carry it (1 Viewer)

BladeRunner said:
However, if she WOULD have pulled a gun out she would have been well within her rights to use it.  She had no avenue of escape as they had her cornered.  It is reasonable to assume that she could have felt threatened with her life (mob mentality and all that).  That's the very definition of self defense.
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If she had pulled and used a gun in that situation there is a strong likelihood that several people would have died, including her. But you’re right, legally she would have been justified. She would also be dead. 

 
timschochet said:
If she had pulled and used a gun in that situation there is a strong likelihood that several people would have died, including her. But you’re right, legally she would have been justified. She would also be dead. 
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You could be correct as we just don't know how a hypothetical situation would play out. 

But this is the problem with these "protests" - they're getting more and more confrontational and someone will end up dying.  In fact, some already have in previous incidients.  When protestors cross this line I have ZERO sympathy for them should anything happen.

 
Stealthycat said:
yes you kinda did

"A gun would have taken care of that right quick. "

how would it have taken care of anything?  I understand you'd have felt a bit more comfortable - I certainly would have too ..... but it wouldn't have taken care of anything

remove yourself from that mob situation - and if you can't, if you're cornered and threatened with your life ... then a gun might have " taken care of that right quick. "

I'm pro-gun, pro-self defense .... I just didn't understand your wording "A gun would have taken care of that right quick. "
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If she pulled out a gun, most everyone is running for shelter.  Well maybe the punk with a skateboard wants to be a rebel, but the rest are running.

 
timschochet said:
If she had pulled and used a gun in that situation there is a strong likelihood that several people would have died, including her. But you’re right, legally she would have been justified. She would also be dead. 
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If they die, tough.  Those people incited it.  

 
BladeRunner said:
You could be correct as we just don't know how a hypothetical situation would play out. 

But this is the problem with these "protests" - they're getting more and more confrontational and someone will end up dying.  In fact, some already have in previous incidients.  When protestors cross this line I have ZERO sympathy for them should anything happen.
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I can appreciate this sentiment.  I don’t want anyone to die — but part of being an adult is facing consequences for your actions.

 
BladeRunner said:
You could be correct as we just don't know how a hypothetical situation would play out. 

But this is the problem with these "protests" - they're getting more and more confrontational and someone will end up dying.  In fact, some already have in previous incidients.  When protestors cross this line I have ZERO sympathy for them should anything happen.
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Dude, it was 2 years ago at the height of the George Floyd stuff. It’s not a thing. And if you want it not to be a thing, then police need to stop killing innocent black people. 

 
BladeRunner said:
However, if she WOULD have pulled a gun out she would have been well within her rights to use it.  She had no avenue of escape as they had her cornered.  It is reasonable to assume that she could have felt threatened with her life (mob mentality and all that).  That's the very definition of self defense.
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No, she wouldn't have. This was hardly a Kyle Rittenhouse self-defense situation as the threat to her had not risen to the level to justify her using lethal force. If she had shot any protesters based on this fact situation, we are talking about assault with a deadly weapon at the least, or manslaughter if any of the protesters had been killed.

 
timschochet said:
Dude, it was 2 years ago at the height of the George Floyd stuff. It’s not a thing. And if you want it not to be a thing, then police need to stop killing innocent black people. 
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So people have the right to act like animals and kill innocent people today, thanks to George Floyd?  

 
squistion said:
They were protesting some police shooting of a black man and came into the restaurant to ask patrons to show solidarity by raising their fists and she refused to do so. 

That said this was a one-off incident that to my knowledge never happened before and hasn't happened since or at least I don't recall any other instance of white BLM advocates bullying other whites. RA must be really desperate to find something to be outraged about to dredge up this 2 year old article. ☹️
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Not a fan of the "mob mentality" or using intimidation. 

When you break it down if the lady raised her fist or did not raise her fist proves or solves nothing. Other than possibly starting another confrontation that could go bad real fast. 

Do you agree?

 
FairWarning said:
If she pulled out a gun, most everyone is running for shelter.  Well maybe the punk with a skateboard wants to be a rebel, but the rest are running.
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right - pulling a gun but you said "I didn't say I'd do anything with it. I'd be rather placid in the face of that mob, though, that's for sure"

so now she IS doing something with it ? 

IF she or someone in that situation - or me - pulled a gun the situation can explode from there. Best to get away from it, do everything possible to get away from the situation .... but if all else fails, having a gun would be better than not I agree

 
Da Guru said:
Not a fan of the "mob mentality" or using intimidation. 

When you break it down if the lady raised her fist or did not raise her fist proves or solves nothing. Other than possibly starting another confrontation that could go bad real fast. 

Do you agree?
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No, they were just asking people in the restaurant the equivalent of "Are you with us?" If she had raised her fist in solidarity (like her dinner companion did) then that would have been the end of it. It wouldn't have escalated into a confrontation with her like it did (which is not to excuse the mob intimidation tactics). 

 
squistion said:
No, they were just asking people in the restaurant the equivalent of "Are you with us?" If she had raised her fist in solidarity (like her dinner companion did) then that would have been the end of it. It wouldn't have escalated into a confrontation with her like it did (which is not to excuse the mob intimidation tactics). 
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These are the same tactics used by the 20th century Socialists, Marxists and Communists to weed out the non-believers before lining them up against the wall.  AND YOU SUPPORT THEM!!!

It's good to know where you stand. :thumbup:

 
squistion said:
No, they were just asking people in the restaurant the equivalent of "Are you with us?" If she had raised her fist in solidarity (like her dinner companion did) then that would have been the end of it. It wouldn't have escalated into a confrontation with her like it did (which is not to excuse the mob intimidation tactics). 
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Asking??  LOL      So she is supposed to comply to a mobs demands while eating dinner? Say she is all about saving lives but not on board with the BLM ideology. That is her right as an American not to be intimidated.

Of all people I thought you would be outraged.  If you were eating at an outdoor cafe and a group confronted, you demanding you comply to whatever you would be OK and comfortable with that?

 
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squistion said:
No, they were just asking people in the restaurant the equivalent of "Are you with us?" If she had raised her fist in solidarity (like her dinner companion did) then that would have been the end of it. It wouldn't have escalated into a confrontation with her like it did (which is not to excuse the mob intimidation tactics). 
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Was the woman deaf?  They appeared to be right up to her.  What if she wasn’t ok with their bullying stance, then what?  

 
BladeRunner said:
These are the same tactics used by the 20th century Socialists, Marxists and Communists to weed out the non-believers before lining them up against the wall.  AND YOU SUPPORT THEM!!!

It's good to know where you stand. :thumbup:
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lol stop with the history already. It’s completely wrong and you have no idea what you’re referring to. 

 
BladeRunner said:
These are the same tactics used by the 20th century Socialists, Marxists and Communists to weed out the non-believers before lining them up against the wall.  AND YOU SUPPORT THEM!!!

It's good to know where you stand. 
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I never said that I supported them.  :rolleyes:

 
Da Guru said:
Asking??  LOL   So she is supposed to comply to a mobs demands while eating dinner? Say she is all about saving lives but not on board with the BLM ideology. That is her right as an American not to be intimidated.

Of all people I thought you would be outraged.  If you were eating at an outdoor cafe and a group confronted, you demanding you comply to whatever you would be OK and comfortable with that?
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No, of course not, she shouldn't have to, but a simple gesture would have avoided this entire brouhaha.

If an agitated crowd in MAGA hats confronted me in a restaurant in 2020 demanding that I raise my fist showing support for Trump, I would have done so rather than risk a confrontation. 

 
squistion said:
No, of course not, she shouldn't have to, but a simple gesture would have avoided this entire brouhaha.

If an agitated crowd in MAGA hats confronted me in a restaurant in 2020 demanding that I raise my fist showing support for Trump, I would have done so rather than risk a confrontation. 
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Thank you for validating my previous posts.  Like I said, you support it AND encourage the tactics of the old brutal Socialists:  Comply with the mob and nobody gets hurt.

 
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squistion said:
No I didn't, obviously you didn't bother to read my entire post.

From the last sentence:
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And yet in your subsequent post:

squistion said:
No, of course not, she shouldn't have to, but a simple gesture would have avoided this entire brouhaha.

If an agitated crowd in MAGA hats confronted me in a restaurant in 2020 demanding that I raise my fist showing support for Trump, I would have done so rather than risk a confrontation. 
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You know that only ONE gesture would have appeased the mob here - the mob approved gesture.  You playing stupid and denying you support it completely refuted by your very own posts.

Classic Squiz!!  

 
BladeRunner said:
Thank you for validating my previous posts.  Like I said, you support it AND encourage the tactics of the old brutal Socialists:  Comply with the mob and nobody gets hurt.
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No I don't support nor encourage that. However, it would have been the expedient course of action. I wouldn't interrupt my dinner and get into a brawl with some MAGA hat wearing folks over something as trivia as not raising a fist to show agreement with them. 

 
squistion said:
No I don't support nor encourage that. However, it would have been the expedient course of action. I wouldn't interrupt my dinner and get into a brawl with some MAGA hat wearing folks over something as trivia as not raising a fist to show agreement with them. 
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Easy and convenient for you to pretend you would do it it in a scenario that would never, ever happen in a million years.  :lol:

 
BladeRunner said:
Easy and convenient for you to pretend you would do it it in a scenario that would never, ever happen in a million years.  
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Sorry but I avoid possibly violent confrontations with people in public - maybe you don't and if so, I hope you carry adequate health insurance. 

If I had claimed that I would have stood up to them and was willing to suffer the consequences, then that would have been pretending to do something I never would under any circumstances. 

 
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squistion said:
No, of course not, she shouldn't have to, but a simple gesture would have avoided this entire brouhaha.

If an agitated crowd in MAGA hats confronted me in a restaurant in 2020 demanding that I raise my fist showing support for Trump, I would have done so rather than risk a confrontation. 
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Let`s just make this simple.  Were the BLM protesters out of line confronting the lady eating dinner demanding a favorable response??

 
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