The 3 headed monster in Tenn. (1 Viewer)

[Routilla]

No offense guys but the TEN RB battle should not be a big deal heading into your drafts. With VY a vulture already and a TEN team that could have problems stopping opponents as well as sustaining drives, no single RB may see much action.

Travis Henry's 1200/7 last year says otherwise

So you think one of the RBs on their roster is going to replace Henry's #s all by himself? Divide that by 3 and you get 300-400 yds and 2-3 TDs each. I suppose for 16 team leagues you would want one of those guys but I would much rather spend the pick on some other position. If you are hoping you land the right TEN RB and that is part of your weekly team then you are in trouble. Now if you have drafted well and are looking for a flyer I say take the last guy in the bunch, that way if you're wrong it didn't cost you anything really when you cut him.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

I would classify the Tenn RB situation more like a 3-headed lizard.

I have $ that says the Titans will be one of the top 8 rushing teams in the NFL this year. Somebody, and I'm talking about Vince, will get some numbers. IF Henry picks up the system, I'd say it is Lendale, Henry, Brown.

 

[AnonymousBob]

It's going to be Lendale's from the start, and all season.

Why do you say that? What has he shown thus far that would lead you to that conclusion?

 

[sholditch]

if the competition gets too fierce LenDale will just eat the competition. In fact, LenDale will probably just eat them anyway.

 

[CravenM]

To me, I see the coaches giving all three RBs time this season to see how they do. They can't have any illusions of going to the Super Bowl with such a young team at all of the skill positions.

CBrown is on my dynasty team and I see him as a bye week filler for when LT or DeuceMac is off. Of course I'm not looking forward to that week but it is what it is.

CBrown has shown flashes of studliness against a few teams when he's healthy and the planets are aligned.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

From what i've read, Lendale has been getting reps with the first team. And if they really wanted Brown to be the back of the future, no way they would have waited to sign him.I believe this is Lendale's job to lose.

I don't think anyone would debate that Brown is being seen as a future cog.

If Titans thought of Chris Brown as a starting RB it makes no sense that they would even release the guy then take their time re-signing him. I think that resigning was for depth.

They released Henry, not Brown. Brown was an UFA. One thing you're forgetting is they made a harder push for M. Turner than anyone and when that failed they went to plan C, back to Brown.

lets'i do remember right after the Turner talks died, Titans still didnt go after Brown right away. Brutis is right, CBRown signing was more for depth or insurance in case Lendale aint ready and it sure does look like CHenry isnt ready either.

I fully believe the Titans WANT White to be their guy but I've seen/heard nothing to indicate that he's worthy other than his college rep which means nothing to me. Show me a good story about White impressing, etc. and I may start to change my mind but hearing that "he's not that fat" or "he's only a little overweight" isn't too inspiring for a guy who's supposed to be your starting RB. I know what Brown can and has brought to this offense and it's A LOT more than White has ever shown. I tend to go with known rather than the unknown (especially when it has warts) in situations like this.

Training camp/2007 season is the year Lendale will have to show FIsher what he's made of. Yes, he hasnt shown anything before this year due to his weight last year (though he did come to camp around 235 last year if i remember correctly). Last year was his rookie year and he didnt do squat. All I'm saying is i havent written off the guy just yet because of his rookie year, just like what TEN is doing. He's being given a chance to showcase what he can do. And if he gets his head straight up, he should win this job outright.At this point, drafting him in the 7th to 9th round in redrafts/dynasty is a shot worth taking to me.

LenDale White went in the Top 5 of most dynasty drafts last year. Over guys like Young, Leinart, and Cutler. Ooops!

It was his first season, and you are writing Lendale off already?

 

[Brewzers]

if the competition gets too fierce LenDale will just eat the competition. In fact, LenDale will probably just eat them anyway.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Guys, every year someone busts. Every friggin' year. Fantasy footballers fall in love with RBs and reach.Last year it was White. The year before was JJ Arrington and Eric Shelton. "Show me Chris Perry, Greg Jones and William Green for $100, Pat". (I feel this year's overhyped, flavor-of-the-week is Brandon Jackson, but that's just my .02.)It happens. Accept it. Move on.

Busts? I think you need to give a player more than 13 games before labeling a player drafted in the 2nd round a bust.

 

[joffer]

No offense guys but the TEN RB battle should not be a big deal heading into your drafts. With VY a vulture already and a TEN team that could have problems stopping opponents as well as sustaining drives, no single RB may see much action.

Travis Henry's 1200/7 last year says otherwise

So you think one of the RBs on their roster is going to replace Henry's #s all by himself?

maybe

 

[rascal]

Apparently Brown practiced with the first team after White spent the last two practice with the first team. Probably rotational but who knows.

http://e-paper.nashvillecitypaper.com/Defa...6&AppName=1

 

[sholditch]

LenDale White is so fat that when he sits around the stadium...actually he just sits around. LenDale, put down that doughnut!!

 

[EBF]

By the way, I'd really like to see White take this job and silence his critics. I think some of the character concerns are valid and Tennessee's offseason moves obviously indicate a certain lack of faith in White, but I also think people have been too quick to write him off on the basis of one quiet season and a handful of rumors.

The guy has talent. He was very good in college. And for all the talk about his weight problems, people don't acknowledge that he was a hefty 250 pounds when he ran all over Texas and had some observers on these very boards saying he looked better than Reggie Bush. How quickly we forget.

He's not built like the statue of David. He never will be. He's not a home run hitter. He never will be. But I still maintain that he can be a Stephen Davis type if he works hard and stays out of trouble.

I think he could be a Larry Johnson type

I think he could be a Ron Dayne type.He has far more in common with Dayne then LJ (size, running style,speed, strength, motivation problems). Remember LenDale put up worse bench reps than most kickers.

LJ is faster, stronger, and while he was a malcontent when not getting PT his desire has never been questioned.

It's scary how much LenDale is like Dayne.

Their running style isn't that similar.

FAR more similar then to LJ, and actually quite similar overall.Dayne in college was a beast, and an unbelievable in between the tackles runner much like White.

I watched Dayne a ton in college and White quite a bit too, and i commented many times while watching White how much he reminded me of the college years Dayne.

People forget that Dayne looked really good in college, but his motivation/weight problems killed him...much like it looks like they are going to kill White.

He has a burst of speed that Dayne never had.
You're jumping to all kinds of conclusions based on suspect evidence and hunches. White's body type will never allow him to be ripped like Adrian Peterson. That's not who he is. Every year Jerome Bettis showed up looking like a fat slob. How come no one called him a lazy turd?

Now I'm not saying that White will be anywhere near as good as Bettis, but it's definitely too early to call him a bust.

And IMO, the Dayne comparison is an easy one, but a weak one. Dayne never had any burst. He was a finesse runner who lacked the quickness and speed to translate that style to the NFL. LenDale is much more of a no-nonsense inside runner.

Watch that video and pay attention to the runs against Arizona in the 2:00-4:00. I doubt you can watch those runs and then tell me with a straight face that this guy is a fat slug.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

By the way, I'd really like to see White take this job and silence his critics. I think some of the character concerns are valid and Tennessee's offseason moves obviously indicate a certain lack of faith in White, but I also think people have been too quick to write him off on the basis of one quiet season and a handful of rumors.

The guy has talent. He was very good in college. And for all the talk about his weight problems, people don't acknowledge that he was a hefty 250 pounds when he ran all over Texas and had some observers on these very boards saying he looked better than Reggie Bush. How quickly we forget.

He's not built like the statue of David. He never will be. He's not a home run hitter. He never will be. But I still maintain that he can be a Stephen Davis type if he works hard and stays out of trouble.

I think he could be a Larry Johnson type

I think he could be a Ron Dayne type.He has far more in common with Dayne then LJ (size, running style,speed, strength, motivation problems). Remember LenDale put up worse bench reps than most kickers.

LJ is faster, stronger, and while he was a malcontent when not getting PT his desire has never been questioned.

It's scary how much LenDale is like Dayne.

Their running style isn't that similar.

FAR more similar then to LJ, and actually quite similar overall.Dayne in college was a beast, and an unbelievable in between the tackles runner much like White.

I watched Dayne a ton in college and White quite a bit too, and i commented many times while watching White how much he reminded me of the college years Dayne.

People forget that Dayne looked really good in college, but his motivation/weight problems killed him...much like it looks like they are going to kill White.

He has a burst of speed that Dayne never had.

Your judging Dayne off his NFL career. I am making an assumption here, but i assume you didn't watch Dayne much if at all in college.In college he had a very nice burst and had many nice sized runs. LenDale didn't run the 40 at the combine, did he? I would bet Dayne's 40 was faster.

Comparing him to Bettis is even weaker than to Dayne. Bettis was one of the few big backs who had solid success, there are handfulls of others who didn't.

I never said LenDale is a slug, but he is fat and unmotivated. I think he has talent, not as much as Dayne had, but enough where if he actually took football seriously and wasn't a headcase he could have some decent success.

Don't confuse me comparing him to Dayne as a bad thing, Dayne was a highly talented RB who just couldn't convert to the NFL game.

Dayne was without a doubt a better college RB then White, maybe White's game will translate better to the NFL, but i actually think he'll be lucky to have the kind of career Dayne's had so far.

 

[NorrisB]

By the way, I'd really like to see White take this job and silence his critics. I think some of the character concerns are valid and Tennessee's offseason moves obviously indicate a certain lack of faith in White, but I also think people have been too quick to write him off on the basis of one quiet season and a handful of rumors.

The guy has talent. He was very good in college. And for all the talk about his weight problems, people don't acknowledge that he was a hefty 250 pounds when he ran all over Texas and had some observers on these very boards saying he looked better than Reggie Bush. How quickly we forget.

He's not built like the statue of David. He never will be. He's not a home run hitter. He never will be. But I still maintain that he can be a Stephen Davis type if he works hard and stays out of trouble.

I think he could be a Larry Johnson type

I think he could be a Ron Dayne type.He has far more in common with Dayne then LJ (size, running style,speed, strength, motivation problems). Remember LenDale put up worse bench reps than most kickers.

LJ is faster, stronger, and while he was a malcontent when not getting PT his desire has never been questioned.

It's scary how much LenDale is like Dayne.

Their running style isn't that similar.

FAR more similar then to LJ, and actually quite similar overall.Dayne in college was a beast, and an unbelievable in between the tackles runner much like White.

I watched Dayne a ton in college and White quite a bit too, and i commented many times while watching White how much he reminded me of the college years Dayne.

People forget that Dayne looked really good in college, but his motivation/weight problems killed him...much like it looks like they are going to kill White.

He has a burst of speed that Dayne never had.

He looks like Larry Johnson to me

 

[KellysHeroes]

As a Chris Henry Dynasty owner; I can't say that Chrissy Brown worries me too much...he surely have an injury and be limited in some way. But L White on the other hand seems to control his own cards.... he seems be one of these players who could come to camp in one year out of shape and land in the coaches doghouse and the next year he could be in tremdous game shape and land 300+ carries. Too me, White is the wildcard in this... I believe that the drafting of Henry was mostly to motivate White... a hard working kid that the coaches can point too and remind White that they don't need him.

IMO... look for Chris Henry in 2008; White just doesn't seem to have the character to be an NFL RB.

 

[Kit Fisto]

From what i've read, Lendale has been getting reps with the first team. And if they really wanted Brown to be the back of the future, no way they would have waited to sign him.I believe this is Lendale's job to lose.

I don't think anyone would debate that Brown is being seen as a future cog.

If Titans thought of Chris Brown as a starting RB it makes no sense that they would even release the guy then take their time re-signing him. I think that resigning was for depth.

They released Henry, not Brown. Brown was an UFA. One thing you're forgetting is they made a harder push for M. Turner than anyone and when that failed they went to plan C, back to Brown.

lets'i do remember right after the Turner talks died, Titans still didnt go after Brown right away. Brutis is right, CBRown signing was more for depth or insurance in case Lendale aint ready and it sure does look like CHenry isnt ready either.

I fully believe the Titans WANT White to be their guy but I've seen/heard nothing to indicate that he's worthy other than his college rep which means nothing to me. Show me a good story about White impressing, etc. and I may start to change my mind but hearing that "he's not that fat" or "he's only a little overweight" isn't too inspiring for a guy who's supposed to be your starting RB. I know what Brown can and has brought to this offense and it's A LOT more than White has ever shown. I tend to go with known rather than the unknown (especially when it has warts) in situations like this.

Training camp/2007 season is the year Lendale will have to show FIsher what he's made of. Yes, he hasnt shown anything before this year due to his weight last year (though he did come to camp around 235 last year if i remember correctly). Last year was his rookie year and he didnt do squat. All I'm saying is i havent written off the guy just yet because of his rookie year, just like what TEN is doing. He's being given a chance to showcase what he can do. And if he gets his head straight up, he should win this job outright.At this point, drafting him in the 7th to 9th round in redrafts/dynasty is a shot worth taking to me.

LenDale White went in the Top 5 of most dynasty drafts last year. Over guys like Young, Leinart, and Cutler. Ooops!

It was his first season, and you are writing Lendale off already?

No, I'm simply saying don't reach for the Fatness. At some point, everyone has value. But Fatty at #5 dynasty last year (and going in the 7th this year in redraft) is ridiculous.I will argue the point however, that Leinart, Young and Cutler will ALL still be playing in the NFL for many, many years... while LenDale will be long gone.

 

[Kit Fisto]

Guys, every year someone busts. Every friggin' year. Fantasy footballers fall in love with RBs and reach.Last year it was White. The year before was JJ Arrington and Eric Shelton. "Show me Chris Perry, Greg Jones and William Green for $100, Pat". (I feel this year's overhyped, flavor-of-the-week is Brandon Jackson, but that's just my .02.)It happens. Accept it. Move on.

Busts? I think you need to give a player more than 13 games before labeling a player drafted in the 2nd round a bust.

How many games did you give JJ Arrington?

 

[GSWarriors]

From what i've read, Lendale has been getting reps with the first team. And if they really wanted Brown to be the back of the future, no way they would have waited to sign him.I believe this is Lendale's job to lose.

I don't think anyone would debate that Brown is being seen as a future cog.

If Titans thought of Chris Brown as a starting RB it makes no sense that they would even release the guy then take their time re-signing him. I think that resigning was for depth.

They released Henry, not Brown. Brown was an UFA. One thing you're forgetting is they made a harder push for M. Turner than anyone and when that failed they went to plan C, back to Brown.

lets'i do remember right after the Turner talks died, Titans still didnt go after Brown right away. Brutis is right, CBRown signing was more for depth or insurance in case Lendale aint ready and it sure does look like CHenry isnt ready either.

I fully believe the Titans WANT White to be their guy but I've seen/heard nothing to indicate that he's worthy other than his college rep which means nothing to me. Show me a good story about White impressing, etc. and I may start to change my mind but hearing that "he's not that fat" or "he's only a little overweight" isn't too inspiring for a guy who's supposed to be your starting RB. I know what Brown can and has brought to this offense and it's A LOT more than White has ever shown. I tend to go with known rather than the unknown (especially when it has warts) in situations like this.

Training camp/2007 season is the year Lendale will have to show FIsher what he's made of. Yes, he hasnt shown anything before this year due to his weight last year (though he did come to camp around 235 last year if i remember correctly). Last year was his rookie year and he didnt do squat. All I'm saying is i havent written off the guy just yet because of his rookie year, just like what TEN is doing. He's being given a chance to showcase what he can do. And if he gets his head straight up, he should win this job outright.At this point, drafting him in the 7th to 9th round in redrafts/dynasty is a shot worth taking to me.

LenDale White went in the Top 5 of most dynasty drafts last year. Over guys like Young, Leinart, and Cutler. Ooops!

It was his first season, and you are writing Lendale off already?

No, I'm simply saying don't reach for the Fatness. At some point, everyone has value. But Fatty at #5 dynasty last year (and going in the 7th this year in redraft) is ridiculous.I will argue the point however, that Leinart, Young and Cutler will ALL still be playing in the NFL for many, many years... while LenDale will be long gone.

stop livin off Fatty at #5 in last year's rookie dynasty. I'm sure someone jumped on Lamont Jordan/Caddy in the top 10 of start-up dynasties last year. and I think i'd still rather have Lendale than those 2 guys.

 

[EBF]

Your judging Dayne off his NFL career. I am making an assumption here, but i assume you didn't watch Dayne much if at all in college.In college he had a very nice burst and had many nice sized runs. LenDale didn't run the 40 at the combine, did he? I would bet Dayne's 40 was faster.Comparing him to Bettis is even weaker than to Dayne. Bettis was one of the few big backs who had solid success, there are handfulls of others who didn't.I never said LenDale is a slug, but he is fat and unmotivated. I think he has talent, not as much as Dayne had, but enough where if he actually took football seriously and wasn't a headcase he could have some decent success.Don't confuse me comparing him to Dayne as a bad thing, Dayne was a highly talented RB who just couldn't convert to the NFL game.Dayne was without a doubt a better college RB then White, maybe White's game will translate better to the NFL, but i actually think he'll be lucky to have the kind of career Dayne's had so far.

Dayne always looked slow to me and I always said that he would be a bust. I disagree about their 40 times. LenDale gets caught from behind quite often, but he has very good acceleration through the hole. He plays like a 4.5 guy for the first 20-30 yards. My point about Bettis wasn't to compare his playing style to White's, but rather to show that one back (White) is the butt of constant jokes for being overweight whereas the other back (Bettis) never gets the same treatment despite being an even bigger tub of lard.

I never said LenDale is a slug, but he is fat and unmotivated. I think he has talent, not as much as Dayne had, but enough where if he actually took football seriously and wasn't a headcase he could have some decent success.

You're just jumping to conclusions here. All of the evidence suggesting that LenDale is "a headcase" and doesn't "take football seriously" is circumstantial. It's not like we're talking about Pacman Jones here. The guy's record is spotless. And he always played hard in college in spite of whatever shortcomings in conditioning he may have had. Is there some legitimate cause for concern? Sure. The fact that Tennessee pursued Turner, drafted Henry, and signed Brown doesn't indicate a lot of faith in White. Nevertheless, it's too early to write him off. And again, calling him a "slug" while giving guys like Bettis a pass is inconsistent. Some body types don't allow for a chiseled statue of David physique. LenDale will always have some extra pounds. As I mentioned earlier, he played the Rose Bowl at 250 pounds and was dominant enough to have lots of people on these very boards saying he looked better than Reggie Bush. And now many of those same people are ripping him constantly. Personally, I'm not that quick to do a full 180 on a guy who dominated in college and has a chance to become a starter in the NFL. If he flops this season, then I'll reconsider my stance.

 

[EBF]

Guys, every year someone busts. Every friggin' year. Fantasy footballers fall in love with RBs and reach.Last year it was White. The year before was JJ Arrington and Eric Shelton. "Show me Chris Perry, Greg Jones and William Green for $100, Pat". (I feel this year's overhyped, flavor-of-the-week is Brandon Jackson, but that's just my .02.)It happens. Accept it. Move on.

Busts? I think you need to give a player more than 13 games before labeling a player drafted in the 2nd round a bust.

How many games did you give JJ Arrington?

Less than Larry Johnson, Ahman Green, Shaun Alexander, Brian Westbrook, Tiki Barber, Ladell Betts, Rudi Johnson, and Thomas Jones. No one who actually watches Pac-10 football will say Arrington was anywhere near as good as White. I don't think many of us Pac-10 homers expected Arrington to amount to anything in the NFL.

 

[Kit Fisto]

stop livin off Fatty at #5 in last year's rookie dynasty. I'm sure someone jumped on Lamont Jordan/Caddy in the top 10 of start-up dynasties last year. and I think i'd still rather have Lendale than those 2 guys.

Really? At least Caddy and Jordan play.

 

[Kit Fisto]

Guys, every year someone busts. Every friggin' year. Fantasy footballers fall in love with RBs and reach.Last year it was White. The year before was JJ Arrington and Eric Shelton. "Show me Chris Perry, Greg Jones and William Green for $100, Pat". (I feel this year's overhyped, flavor-of-the-week is Brandon Jackson, but that's just my .02.)It happens. Accept it. Move on.

Busts? I think you need to give a player more than 13 games before labeling a player drafted in the 2nd round a bust.

How many games did you give JJ Arrington?

Less than Larry Johnson, Ahman Green, Shaun Alexander, Brian Westbrook, Tiki Barber, Ladell Betts, Rudi Johnson, and Thomas Jones. No one who actually watches Pac-10 football will say Arrington was anywhere near as good as White. I don't think many of us Pac-10 homers expected Arrington to amount to anything in the NFL.

Guys, I'm not saying White has no value. I'm simply saying that he's going waaaay too high. Sometime college skills don't translate to the NFL, and LenDale White is looking more and more like one of those RBs who never quite makes it to the level he was drafted to be.

 

[Kit Fisto]

One of my biggest arguements in this thread guys, is that statistically, highly-drafted RBs bust. EVERY YEAR. Visit drafthistory.com and highlight the RB from every year that hasn't quite panned out. You'll find at least one RB drafted in the 1st/2nd in every draft.

There will be one from 2006. Maybe it's Addai. Maybe he goes Ki-Jana Carter on us and wrecks his knee this preseason. Or maybe all he really is is a 3rd down back who lucked out with one good year. Maybe DeAngelo Williams never overtakes DeShaun Foster. These are all hypotheticals, of course, but to me, the guy from last year's group of highly-touted RBs that has the most question marks surrounding him is LenDale White.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Your judging Dayne off his NFL career. I am making an assumption here, but i assume you didn't watch Dayne much if at all in college.In college he had a very nice burst and had many nice sized runs. LenDale didn't run the 40 at the combine, did he? I would bet Dayne's 40 was faster.Comparing him to Bettis is even weaker than to Dayne. Bettis was one of the few big backs who had solid success, there are handfulls of others who didn't.I never said LenDale is a slug, but he is fat and unmotivated. I think he has talent, not as much as Dayne had, but enough where if he actually took football seriously and wasn't a headcase he could have some decent success.Don't confuse me comparing him to Dayne as a bad thing, Dayne was a highly talented RB who just couldn't convert to the NFL game.Dayne was without a doubt a better college RB then White, maybe White's game will translate better to the NFL, but i actually think he'll be lucky to have the kind of career Dayne's had so far.

Dayne always looked slow to me and I always said that he would be a bust. I disagree about their 40 times. LenDale gets caught from behind quite often, but he has very good acceleration through the hole. He plays like a 4.5 guy for the first 20-30 yards. My point about Bettis wasn't to compare his playing style to White's, but rather to show that one back (White) is the butt of constant jokes for being overweight whereas the other back (Bettis) never gets the same treatment despite being an even bigger tub of lard.

I never said LenDale is a slug, but he is fat and unmotivated. I think he has talent, not as much as Dayne had, but enough where if he actually took football seriously and wasn't a headcase he could have some decent success.

You're just jumping to conclusions here. All of the evidence suggesting that LenDale is "a headcase" and doesn't "take football seriously" is circumstantial. It's not like we're talking about Pacman Jones here. The guy's record is spotless. And he always played hard in college in spite of whatever shortcomings in conditioning he may have had. Is there some legitimate cause for concern? Sure. The fact that Tennessee pursued Turner, drafted Henry, and signed Brown doesn't indicate a lot of faith in White. Nevertheless, it's too early to write him off. And again, calling him a "slug" while giving guys like Bettis a pass is inconsistent. Some body types don't allow for a chiseled statue of David physique. LenDale will always have some extra pounds. As I mentioned earlier, he played the Rose Bowl at 250 pounds and was dominant enough to have lots of people on these very boards saying he looked better than Reggie Bush. And now many of those same people are ripping him constantly. Personally, I'm not that quick to do a full 180 on a guy who dominated in college and has a chance to become a starter in the NFL. If he flops this season, then I'll reconsider my stance.

LenDale being a headcase:As a rookie he SPIT in another teammates face, right there is a huge flag. Also there were many articles about his pre-madonna attitude being the cousin of c.billips. Rumors about an inconclusive drug test predraft. Reports of him being lazy in practice.Your right, most rumors, but where there is smoke there is usually fire. It is almost too much to ignore.Also i'm not saying he has to be chiseled to be a decent RB, but the record of guys who are pudgy having long term success in the NFL is spotty at best. He did look good in the Rose Bowl...in college...which is completely different then the NFL, just ask Dayne.With all that said i actually think LenDale is the favorite to get the majority of carries in tennessee this season, but to be a star in the NFL it takes talent and dedication, one of which White sorely lacks.

 

[veto87]

By the way, I'd really like to see White take this job and silence his critics. I think some of the character concerns are valid and Tennessee's offseason moves obviously indicate a certain lack of faith in White, but I also think people have been too quick to write him off on the basis of one quiet season and a handful of rumors. The guy has talent. He was very good in college. And for all the talk about his weight problems, people don't acknowledge that he was a hefty 250 pounds when he ran all over Texas and had some observers on these very boards saying he looked better than Reggie Bush. How quickly we forget. He's not built like the statue of David. He never will be. He's not a home run hitter. He never will be. But I still maintain that he can be a Stephen Davis type if he works hard and stays out of trouble.

I think he could be a Larry Johnson type

I think he could be a Ron Dayne type.He has far more in common with Dayne then LJ (size, running style,speed, strength, motivation problems). Remember LenDale put up worse bench reps than most kickers.LJ is faster, stronger, and while he was a malcontent when not getting PT his desire has never been questioned.It's scary how much LenDale is like Dayne.

LenDayne .... there I've said it LenDayne White

 

[Mortimer Ichabod]

Watching Titans training camp on NFL network and fisher apparently when asked about the RB's said he wasnt worried and to watch out for Lendale white. It sounds like he expects white to be the main guy and not do too badly. They said they will be talking more about the RB's shortly FWIW.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...50&start=50

 

[Mimo]

Your judging Dayne off his NFL career. I am making an assumption here, but i assume you didn't watch Dayne much if at all in college.In college he had a very nice burst and had many nice sized runs. LenDale didn't run the 40 at the combine, did he? I would bet Dayne's 40 was faster.Comparing him to Bettis is even weaker than to Dayne. Bettis was one of the few big backs who had solid success, there are handfulls of others who didn't.I never said LenDale is a slug, but he is fat and unmotivated. I think he has talent, not as much as Dayne had, but enough where if he actually took football seriously and wasn't a headcase he could have some decent success.Don't confuse me comparing him to Dayne as a bad thing, Dayne was a highly talented RB who just couldn't convert to the NFL game.Dayne was without a doubt a better college RB then White, maybe White's game will translate better to the NFL, but i actually think he'll be lucky to have the kind of career Dayne's had so far.

Dayne always looked slow to me and I always said that he would be a bust. I disagree about their 40 times. LenDale gets caught from behind quite often, but he has very good acceleration through the hole. He plays like a 4.5 guy for the first 20-30 yards. My point about Bettis wasn't to compare his playing style to White's, but rather to show that one back (White) is the butt of constant jokes for being overweight whereas the other back (Bettis) never gets the same treatment despite being an even bigger tub of lard.

I never said LenDale is a slug, but he is fat and unmotivated. I think he has talent, not as much as Dayne had, but enough where if he actually took football seriously and wasn't a headcase he could have some decent success.

You're just jumping to conclusions here. All of the evidence suggesting that LenDale is "a headcase" and doesn't "take football seriously" is circumstantial. It's not like we're talking about Pacman Jones here. The guy's record is spotless. And he always played hard in college in spite of whatever shortcomings in conditioning he may have had. Is there some legitimate cause for concern? Sure. The fact that Tennessee pursued Turner, drafted Henry, and signed Brown doesn't indicate a lot of faith in White. Nevertheless, it's too early to write him off. And again, calling him a "slug" while giving guys like Bettis a pass is inconsistent. Some body types don't allow for a chiseled statue of David physique. LenDale will always have some extra pounds. As I mentioned earlier, he played the Rose Bowl at 250 pounds and was dominant enough to have lots of people on these very boards saying he looked better than Reggie Bush. And now many of those same people are ripping him constantly. Personally, I'm not that quick to do a full 180 on a guy who dominated in college and has a chance to become a starter in the NFL. If he flops this season, then I'll reconsider my stance.

This is a rational argument with substance, it gives the benefit of the doubt without rambling with the old "Fatdale" follower comment. White is a wait and see guy. I am actually kinda high on him and will not be surprised to see him do very well in TN. It kills me to hear/read someone is not motivated, lazy etc. Last I checked most if not all of us don't know these guys from a cup of Kool-Aid but act like they know their character and inner motivation. Get a grip guys and stop being followers. When was the last article written on LenDale being out of shape, head case or lacking motivation? But yet and still he is called all that. If he is all those things now what was he when he was running over all those defenses while playing for the Trojans.Remember the best indication of future behavior is past. LenDale will be fine.

 

[Routilla]

No offense guys but the TEN RB battle should not be a big deal heading into your drafts. With VY a vulture already and a TEN team that could have problems stopping opponents as well as sustaining drives, no single RB may see much action.

Travis Henry's 1200/7 last year says otherwise

So you think one of the RBs on their roster is going to replace Henry's #s all by himself?

maybe

And you're willing to spend how many picks on TEN RBs in order to get this "1" guy?

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

Your judging Dayne off his NFL career. I am making an assumption here, but i assume you didn't watch Dayne much if at all in college.

In college he had a very nice burst and had many nice sized runs. LenDale didn't run the 40 at the combine, did he? I would bet Dayne's 40 was faster.

Comparing him to Bettis is even weaker than to Dayne. Bettis was one of the few big backs who had solid success, there are handfulls of others who didn't.

I never said LenDale is a slug, but he is fat and unmotivated. I think he has talent, not as much as Dayne had, but enough where if he actually took football seriously and wasn't a headcase he could have some decent success.

Don't confuse me comparing him to Dayne as a bad thing, Dayne was a highly talented RB who just couldn't convert to the NFL game.

Dayne was without a doubt a better college RB then White, maybe White's game will translate better to the NFL, but i actually think he'll be lucky to have the kind of career Dayne's had so far.

Dayne always looked slow to me and I always said that he would be a bust. I disagree about their 40 times. LenDale gets caught from behind quite often, but he has very good acceleration through the hole. He plays like a 4.5 guy for the first 20-30 yards. My point about Bettis wasn't to compare his playing style to White's, but rather to show that one back (White) is the butt of constant jokes for being overweight whereas the other back (Bettis) never gets the same treatment despite being an even bigger tub of lard.

I never said LenDale is a slug, but he is fat and unmotivated. I think he has talent, not as much as Dayne had, but enough where if he actually took football seriously and wasn't a headcase he could have some decent success.

You're just jumping to conclusions here. All of the evidence suggesting that LenDale is "a headcase" and doesn't "take football seriously" is circumstantial. It's not like we're talking about Pacman Jones here. The guy's record is spotless. And he always played hard in college in spite of whatever shortcomings in conditioning he may have had. Is there some legitimate cause for concern? Sure. The fact that Tennessee pursued Turner, drafted Henry, and signed Brown doesn't indicate a lot of faith in White. Nevertheless, it's too early to write him off.

And again, calling him a "slug" while giving guys like Bettis a pass is inconsistent. Some body types don't allow for a chiseled statue of David physique. LenDale will always have some extra pounds. As I mentioned earlier, he played the Rose Bowl at 250 pounds and was dominant enough to have lots of people on these very boards saying he looked better than Reggie Bush. And now many of those same people are ripping him constantly.

Personally, I'm not that quick to do a full 180 on a guy who dominated in college and has a chance to become a starter in the NFL. If he flops this season, then I'll reconsider my stance.

LenDale being a headcase:As a rookie he SPIT in another teammates face, right there is a huge flag. Also there were many articles about his pre-madonna attitude being the cousin of c.billips. Rumors about an inconclusive drug test predraft. Reports of him being lazy in practice.

Your right, most rumors, but where there is smoke there is usually fire. It is almost too much to ignore.

Also i'm not saying he has to be chiseled to be a decent RB, but the record of guys who are pudgy having long term success in the NFL is spotty at best. He did look good in the Rose Bowl...in college...which is completely different then the NFL, just ask Dayne.

With all that said i actually think LenDale is the favorite to get the majority of carries in tennessee this season, but to be a star in the NFL it takes talent and dedication, one of which White sorely lacks.

This is likely the most non-intentionally funny thing I've ever seen on this board. Absolutely sigworthy.