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The Audible - Sleeper of the Week (1 Viewer)

Which Player Will it be?

  • Cecil Lammey - Ladell Betts

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  • Jeff Pasquino - DeAngelo Williams

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  • Sigmund Bloom - Nate Washington

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I'm not sure Betts or Deangello would qualify as sleepers so much as Nate. These questions levae a lot of room for interpretation.

The offensive projections really jumped out for me for Washington though. If he goes off you have to give it to him.

 
Englishteacher said:
I'm not sure Betts or Deangello would qualify as sleepers so much as Nate. These questions levae a lot of room for interpretation.The offensive projections really jumped out for me for Washington though. If he goes off you have to give it to him.
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Englishteacher,I follow you here, but the definition of "sleeper" is very arbitrary. Suffice it to say "player who best outperforms expectations".In some leagues DAWill and/or Betts are on the wire. We've had Reggie Bush and Laurence Maroney as sleepers before, so it run the gamut.Thanks.
 
Interesting question. What is a sleeper? I don't think I agree with your definition JP. "Player who best outperforms expectations?" Does Lee Evans qualify as a sleeper a couple of weeks ago when he went off of 60 or 70 fantasy points? Does LT against Denver qualify since he crushed his historical average against the Broncos from fantasy perspective?

I think a sleeper more accurately is "a player not commonly known among fantasy owners who may be expected to outperform his average from a fantasy perspective due to situational circumstances such as an injury or a suspension to a player of higher rank."

Something like that.

:nerd: :bag:

 
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Sandeman said:
Interesting question. What is a sleeper? I don't think I agree with your definition JP. "Player who best outperforms expectations?" Does Lee Evans qualify as a sleeper a couple of weeks ago when he went off of 60 or 70 fantasy points? Does LT against Denver qualify since he crushed his historical average against the Broncos from fantasy perspective?I think a sleeper more accurately is "a player not commonly known among fantasy owners who may be expected to outperform his average from a fantasy perspective due to situational circumstances such as an injury or a suspension to a player of higher rank." Something like that. :nerd: :bag:
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I think the answer lies somewhere in-between, Sandeman.Perhaps a "player who outperforms who is either (A) someone you would not normally start OR (B) could be available on your Waiver Wire".Given most leagues are redrafts and that league sizes vary widely, it's impossible to define what a true sleeper is. If you are in a 10-team league that doesn't allow you to roster more than 4 RBs, I'd guess both Williams and Betts could be on the WW. If you're in a 16-team dynasty league with 25+ man rosters, both are likely rostered. However, you could be in a position to start them when you normally would not (for example, if you normally start Ronnie Brown and don't like the matchup, you may be looking down your depth chart).
 
Voted for washington because I would expect Betts to do well at this point, and with DeAngelo I'm not sure what his role is this week or whether CAR is committed to a RB.

However even with Nate, my fear would be that Santeria Homey, or even Miller gets more love, but I like the bold call.

Tough choices.

 
Do we really care about the definition of a sleeper? This akin to writers picking an MVP based upon his value to his team instead of his raw performance regardless of what team he was on,,,drives me nuts when they pull that crap for the sake of finding something to write about and something to be different and call attention to themselves. As to these "sleepers", why don't we just ask people who they think will put up the best stats this week since that's all anybody cares about and not which one has the biggest Horatio Alger like rags to riches story this week. I think it will be Betts since he can get it rushing and receiving and he's got a good matchup. Next would be Williams vs PHI on MNF and I thought I'd like him more but he only put up 3.7 ypc vs WAS last week vs Betts 4.3 so I give the nod to Betts. Washington gets my third place vote simply because Santonio Holmes looks to be the go to guy in the absence of Ward since he's the second best performing WR on PIT. Good matcup vs TB but Ben also took a pounding last week and WR production is more of a crap shoot than that for RB's from my experience.

 
DWill is a must-start to me.. hardly a sleeper.

I think most people with him rostered had him on their bench all season so they could ride him through the fantasy postseason.

Nate Washington is a pro pick.... I picked him up off waivers in 3 of my leagues and threw him in my flex/WR3 spots...

 
MLBrandow said:
I think most people with him rostered had him on their bench all season so they could ride him through the fantasy postseason.
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It's true - that's why I had him - but he's still a sleeper since he is not someone who you would readily think of starting - you had him on your bench all year, so you had someone else you were using at RB2 already -there's a great chance THAT is your regular starter. D was a nice "stash" on your roster - not a guy you knew would be worth starting this year.Foster is back at practice, and will probably eat into D's carries (if he doesn't return to the starting role this week). Plus, the Carolina run game has performed well enough to make Foster a must-sit. :lol: Not sure why D in the lineup changes the fact that "the Carolina Panther RB" is not a great fantasy pick this year. Since week 5, Foster and Williams have managed exactly one rushing TD (by Foster) and no receiving TDs. One TD in half a season between Foster/Williams is certainly not a desirable fantasy spot,DeAngelo is definitely a sleeper and not a "must start."
 
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i like Betts here, because i think he'll have the most opportunity.

however, i voted Nate because including a starting RB for a run-based team with a rookie QB hardly qualifies as a "sleeper" or even a stretch, in my mind. it's not like he's Justin Fargas. who, by the way, i think is an excellent sleeper pick this week. i do think Nate will produce good numbers though, and is probably the one most likely to surprise people this week. 80 yds and a TD from either of these guys is a good week, and is within expectations for all. coming from Nate Washington if you started him, you'd look like the sleeper-picking-swami of your league.

did i make any sense here? i'm all over the place.

 
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Marc Levin said:
D was a nice "stash" on your roster - not a guy you knew would be worth starting this year.
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Well, I can't speak for everyone that plays fantasy football, but I drafted him for that purpose.I expected him to start by week 5/6 at the latest... if not for his injury, I'm pretty confident he would have.At the least, I'm quite solid in having him as my late-season RB.At that though, I mean it doesn't seem to me like we can say "sleeper" with Betts and DWill. They both put up solid numbers last week, and are likely to repeat.Nate Washington is a scrub that's on the waiver wire in nearly every league.And he's got a decent chance to be the #1 WR this week.Regardless, I like all three though.
 
MLBrandow said:
it doesn't seem to me like we can say "sleeper" with Betts and DWill. They both put up solid numbers last week, and are likely to repeat.
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:no: Not for DWill - Foster returning to practice is not a good sign fopr him getting enough opps.

And I think I put up AMPLE numbers showing that "the Panthers RB" is going to have "sleeper" status until one of them puts up a few games worth more than 10 FPs.

Finally:

Foster likely to start

DWill = sleeper.

 
Marc Levin said:
MLBrandow said:
it doesn't seem to me like we can say "sleeper" with Betts and DWill. They both put up solid numbers last week, and are likely to repeat.
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:no: Not for DWill - Foster returning to practice is not a good sign fopr him getting enough opps.

And I think I put up AMPLE numbers showing that "the Panthers RB" is going to have "sleeper" status until one of them puts up a few games worth more than 10 FPs.

Finally:

Foster likely to start

DWill = sleeper.
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DWill will have over 10 fantasy points in a PPR league for sure on MNF.He'll also have more touches than Foster.

Starter status is overrated.

 
I actually think Foster AND Shelton

will get some touches on Monday night.

DWill should be a nice RB3 for this week, imo,

definately not a "must start".

 
Jeff Pasquino said:
DWill will have over 10 fantasy points in a PPR league for sure on MNF.
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In PPR leagues, modify my statement to "a few games worth more than 15 FPs."Jeff, you know as well as anyone, that when a blanket FP statement is made in the Pool, it means FBG scoring without PPR. But, I am happy to discuss DWill's prospects in the passing game - Foster will be in on many more passing downs than DWill, DWill's blocking is suspect, and Foster's pass blocking is excellent. Regardless, Foster as the starter and the failure of the Panthers run game means, CONCRETELY, that DWill is a sleeper, which was what I was arguing, so I am not sure why you are disagreeing with me.
 
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Marc Levin said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
DWill will have over 10 fantasy points in a PPR league for sure on MNF.
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In PPR leagues, modify my statement to "a few games worth more than 15 FPs."Jeff, you know as well as anyone, that when a blanket FP statement is made in the Pool, it means FBG scoring without PPR. But, I am happy to discuss DWill's prospects in the passing game - Foster will be in on many more passing downs than DWill, DWill's blocking is suspect, and Foster's pass blocking is excellent. Regardless, Foster as the starter and the failure of the Panthers run game means, CONCRETELY, that DWill is a sleeper, which was what I was arguing, so I am not sure why you are disagreeing with me.
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Not sure why I confined it to PPR - just easier to say I guess.DAWill should get 100 yards combined plus KR/PR yardage as well. I also have him more likely than not to score.Foster's starter status is overrated on a team that will use >1 RB regardless.
 
Call me Crazy!

I'm thinkin about TJ Duckett as the sleeper pick this week, Wash would love to run the ball over the smaller Atl D, wear them down and keep Vick off the field.

Who better to pound the ball than the RB they (ATL), traded away this season.

He has been slowly getting reps and doing fairly well with his opportunities.

A fresh TJ and a little anger leads me to believe he could have his one big game of this season.

Kool aid anyone? lol

 
Cecil Lammey said:
Betts :banned:c'mon DWill, let's see you top that! :football:
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:goodposting:Betts was huge today. That the team did that kinda damage with Campbell back there is a good sign for Portis' dynasty prospects - and a continuing chops licker for those runners facing Atlanta the next few weeks. Man, that run D suXor.
 
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Ladell Betts - 28-155-1 rushing (Career high), 3-18 rec.

FBG Scoring - 23.3 points. PPR, 26.3.

DeAngelo Williams 17-74 rushing, 7-101-1 receiving (first RB in Carolina Panther history with 100 yards rec)

FBG Scoring - 23.5 points. PPR, 30.5.

Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner.

I'd say if you haven't been downloading The Audible, you're missing out.

 
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Marc Levin said:
MLBrandow said:
it doesn't seem to me like we can say "sleeper" with Betts and DWill. They both put up solid numbers last week, and are likely to repeat.
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:no: Not for DWill - Foster returning to practice is not a good sign fopr him getting enough opps.

And I think I put up AMPLE numbers showing that "the Panthers RB" is going to have "sleeper" status until one of them puts up a few games worth more than 10 FPs.

Finally:

Foster likely to start

DWill = sleeper.
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Poor Mark.You should agree with me more often.

At that.... I still give Bloom the win here. NW was a half-broken tackle away from notching 154/TD for the afternoon.

I expected both Betts and DWill to put up big numbers....

That said, I was happy to finally see my season's worth of stashing him on my bench finally pay off. I was ecstatic to start him this week, and I expect even better numbers next week.

 
Poor me for what? and agree with what? That DWill was not a sleeper?

DWill was a sleeper this week - Foster was not declared inactive until today.

And Jeff clearly won this battle - his pick scored the most points.

 
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