The force of nature that is Taylor Swift - New Album coming April 2024 (1 Viewer)

[Ghost Rider]

Even more so as she just came downstairs saying TS dropped a surprise 15 more songs at 2am...a surprise double album.
The force of nature seems to be pretty accurate...that or an extremely crazy person who is addicted to the work of it all. Given how much music she has put out over the last 2 years plus touring all over. Pretty nuts.

I put it on when it dropped. I fell asleep half way, but I liked what I heard.

So now that it's been out a few weeks, what are your thoughts?

Even more so as she just came downstairs saying TS dropped a surprise 15 more songs at 2am...a surprise double album.
The force of nature seems to be pretty accurate...that or an extremely crazy person who is addicted to the work of it all. Given how much music she has put out over the last 2 years plus touring all over. Pretty nuts.

I put it on when it dropped. I fell asleep half way, but I liked what I heard.

So now that it's been out a few weeks, what are your thoughts?

It is similar to Midnights sound wise, but I'm gonna need more time to figure out what's what. Ask me in ninety days, lol.

I don't agree with that at all; I think it sounds pretty different from Midnights relatively speaking. It could be argued that are both are pretty synth-driven, but the choice of synth tones on the two album are pretty different, as are the styles. Plus, TTPD has a lot more guitar on it than Midnights, which barely had any. (talking the main discs in both cases)

The Anthology disc of TTPD (disc 2 - the extra 15 songs) is more or less the last chapter in the trilogy started by Folklore and Evermore, only this one is far very summery than the first two. Folklore was more like autumn, while Evermore is very much a winter record. The Anthology disc of TTPD just feels like a major summer record.

I look forward to your feedback in 90s days.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

Guys, there's nothing to 'get'. It's music. Art. Either you like it, don't like it or are ambivalent about it. If she's not your cup of tea, that's okay. There's plenty of popular artists, shows, movies, etc that I 'don't get'. It's all good.

Truth. If someone doesn't get or like her music, there is nothing you, I or anyone can say that will convince them. Plenty of people do like her music. Many do not, and that's cool, too. It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff. Fortunately, there is a lot of music out there, and there is something for everyone.

As for the new album, it is a grower, but mostly pretty excellent. With 31 songs, it is lot to get into at once, and there are some songs that have already fallen into the skip category for me, but it's not that I think they are bad; there are just others I want to hear right now. The big pop hooks are mostly absent, so it can take a handful of dedicated listens to really get what is going on. There is a lot of variety and plenty of new, different stuff for her. Because of the scope and sprawling nature of it, this is like her White Album.

I am finding that there are probably around a dozen songs that are a bit too much lyrically driven and are missing something. I can understand the sentiment that some people have that they sound similar. I may change my mind on these, but they are skips for me right now.

She still has a lot of great songs though. On my first listen I really enjoyed 'But Daddy, I Love Him'. It had a bit of that old Taylor sound to it.

 

[NewbieJr]

Guys, there's nothing to 'get'. It's music. Art. Either you like it, don't like it or are ambivalent about it. If she's not your cup of tea, that's okay. There's plenty of popular artists, shows, movies, etc that I 'don't get'. It's all good.

Truth. If someone doesn't get or like her music, there is nothing you, I or anyone can say that will convince them. Plenty of people do like her music. Many do not, and that's cool, too. It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff. Fortunately, there is a lot of music out there, and there is something for everyone.

As for the new album, it is a grower, but mostly pretty excellent. With 31 songs, it is lot to get into at once, and there are some songs that have already fallen into the skip category for me, but it's not that I think they are bad; there are just others I want to hear right now. The big pop hooks are mostly absent, so it can take a handful of dedicated listens to really get what is going on. There is a lot of variety and plenty of new, different stuff for her. Because of the scope and sprawling nature of it, this is like her White Album.

I'm there with you on the new album. At first listen, I wasn't really digging it (admittedly, it was on while I was in my office, so I wasn't able to pay close attention). Listened to it a second time and thought it pretty-much sounded the same. Nothing was really jumping out at me. Then on Threads, I was reading a couple posts about Swifties favorite songs on TTPD and I started checking them out in smaller batches. Melodies were becoming familiar. And I started really liking a lot of the songs. Like you said, 31 songs is a lot to absorb. Now that I'm fairly familiar with most of the songs, I have between 15-20 that I rotate. Back in the day, they called extra songs, "filler". Songs artists would throw together to fill out an album. Since Swift's songs are all basically a diary entry, I doubt she would consider any of them to be filler, but this album would have been up there with her best if she would have trimmed it by about 10 songs.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Guys, there's nothing to 'get'. It's music. Art. Either you like it, don't like it or are ambivalent about it. If she's not your cup of tea, that's okay. There's plenty of popular artists, shows, movies, etc that I 'don't get'. It's all good.

Truth. If someone doesn't get or like her music, there is nothing you, I or anyone can say that will convince them. Plenty of people do like her music. Many do not, and that's cool, too. It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff. Fortunately, there is a lot of music out there, and there is something for everyone.

As for the new album, it is a grower, but mostly pretty excellent. With 31 songs, it is lot to get into at once, and there are some songs that have already fallen into the skip category for me, but it's not that I think they are bad; there are just others I want to hear right now. The big pop hooks are mostly absent, so it can take a handful of dedicated listens to really get what is going on. There is a lot of variety and plenty of new, different stuff for her. Because of the scope and sprawling nature of it, this is like her White Album.

I'm there with you on the new album. At first listen, I wasn't really digging it (admittedly, it was on while I was in my office, so I wasn't able to pay close attention). Listened to it a second time and thought it pretty-much sounded the same. Nothing was really jumping out at me. Then on Threads, I was reading a couple posts about Swifties favorite songs on TTPD and I started checking them out in smaller batches. Melodies were becoming familiar. And I started really liking a lot of the songs. Like you said, 31 songs is a lot to absorb. Now that I'm fairly familiar with most of the songs, I have between 15-20 that I rotate. Back in the day, they called extra songs, "filler". Songs artists would throw together to fill out an album. Since Swift's songs are all basically a diary entry, I doubt she would consider any of them to be filler, but this album would have been up there with her best if she would have trimmed it by about 10 songs.

I find this works best at the start with any album that is long (say, 60+ minutes). And with a 2-hour album, it definitely makes it a lot easier to work on chunks of songs at a time rather than trying to tackle the whole thing.

 

[eoMMan]

A friend of mine was asking…

So now that she owns her masters, which was partly funded by her massive tour and sales from her “Taylor Version” re-recorded albums, will she be reimbursing fans who purchased the Taylor version albums?

He says that fans bought those albums because they felt bad for her but now it has a bad look that she owns the originals as well. Was it a money grab and her plan all along that she would eventually buy back the masters?

IDK

 

[Joe Schmo]

A friend of mine was asking…

So now that she owns her masters, which was partly funded by her massive tour and sales from her “Taylor Version” re-recorded albums, will she be reimbursing fans who purchased the Taylor version albums?

He says that fans bought those albums because they felt bad for her but now it has a bad look that she owns the originals as well. Was it a money grab and her plan all along that she would eventually buy back the masters?

IDK

See this is the problem right here, feeling bad for Taylor Swift the mega-rich, mega-famous superstar is kind of self delusional on anyone's part. No way her fans are entitled to a refund of any sort just because they fed into her machine. Hopefully a learning lesson on putting stars/heroes on pedestals.

 

[Ghost Rider]

A friend of mine was asking…

So now that she owns her masters, which was partly funded by her massive tour and sales from her “Taylor Version” re-recorded albums, will she be reimbursing fans who purchased the Taylor version albums?

He says that fans bought those albums because they felt bad for her but now it has a bad look that she owns the originals as well. Was it a money grab and her plan all along that she would eventually buy back the masters?

IDK

Your friend is very misguided.

No fan was forced to buy any of the Taylor's Version re-recordings, and it is worth noting that all had a ton more material than the originals. The original Fearless, for example, had 13 songs, and then the re-recording had 26, six of which were brand new songs to fans (From the Vault). Red went from 16 to 30 tracks. I cannot recall the numbers of the others, but fans got more than their money's worth especially since they were sold on CD and digitally for the price of a single album, despite all having around 23 or 24 (I think) to 30 songs each.

Her fans tend to be very vocal on social media places like X for example (annoyingly so lol), and I haven't seen any complaining. I suspect the ones taking a "the fans got ripped off" stance are non-fans who dislike her and want to find any reason to criticize her. Actual fans are more than happy with the way this played out.

As for her plan, I am sure she always hoped that she would be able to buy her original masters back some day, but the re-records were a way of taking back ownership of her songs and controlling them to an extent. Like when you hear a song in a movie or TV show; you have to get the rights from the owners of both the masters and the publishing. Because she writes all of her songs, she has always owned the publishing, so she had the right to always say no, meaning those who owned the masters the last few years were handicapped as to what they could do with it. In essence, she devalued them and then bought them back for less than she likely would have had to pay for them six years ago. Considering how ugly the business side of the music industry Is (most IN the industry will testify to this) and how male-dominated it is, this is a big win for the artist.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

Crazy take lol

 

[General Malaise]

Rumor going round that she and Travis got married in secret. Maybe her fans can waive their claims to album refunds as a wedding gift.

 

[culdeus]

A friend of mine was asking…

So now that she owns her masters, which was partly funded by her massive tour and sales from her “Taylor Version” re-recorded albums, will she be reimbursing fans who purchased the Taylor version albums?

He says that fans bought those albums because they felt bad for her but now it has a bad look that she owns the originals as well. Was it a money grab and her plan all along that she would eventually buy back the masters?

IDK

Who buys albums?

I don't even know how to buy an album even if I wanted to. Like what do you do. Go to Amazon? Buy a CD? Vinyl?

Do swifties have a record player as a rule?

 

[B Maverick]

Do swifties have a record player as a rule?

Not sure if its a rule, but my 16 yo swiftie daughter does have one with some albums on vinyl.

 

[Ghost Rider]

A friend of mine was asking…

So now that she owns her masters, which was partly funded by her massive tour and sales from her “Taylor Version” re-recorded albums, will she be reimbursing fans who purchased the Taylor version albums?

He says that fans bought those albums because they felt bad for her but now it has a bad look that she owns the originals as well. Was it a money grab and her plan all along that she would eventually buy back the masters?

IDK

Who buys albums?

I don't even know how to buy an album even if I wanted to. Like what do you do. Go to Amazon? Buy a CD? Vinyl?

Do swifties have a record player as a rule?

Vinyl has made a bit of a comeback, and Swift sells an absurd amount of physical product (relative to anyone else these days). Vinyl making a comeback is not something I saw coming, for sure.

 

[General Malaise]

Yeah, my oldest has a record player and collects albums. I bought him a few of Taylor Swift's records, including Folklore, which I think is her best (just ahead of Red).

 

[Ghost Rider]

New album, her 12th, coming this year. Release date still forthcoming.

 

[ChiefD]

New album, her 12th, coming this year. Release date still forthcoming.

I hope and pray they release on opening day of the NFL season.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

New album, her 12th, coming this year. Release date still forthcoming.

I hope and pray they release on opening day of the NFL season.

That would be awesome! And she should take out a bunch off adds for the opening day commercials in all the games.

 

[Joey Wright]

Love me some TSwift!!! Looking forward to the new tunes. Wondering what a happy in love Taylor album might sound like and it seems like there is a good chance we will ge that!

 

[Nugget]

I hope she makes the cover of the FBG magazine

 

[Joey Wright]

I hope she makes the cover of the FBG magazine

Listen I pushed for it. Was denied.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

I hope she makes the cover of the FBG magazine

Listen I pushed for it. Was denied.

So short-sighted. Close to 50% of the population don't play fantasy football. Could have scooped up a nice percentage of new users.

 

[Don Quixote]

Love me some TSwift!!! Looking forward to the new tunes. Wondering what a happy in love Taylor album might sound like and it seems like there is a good chance we will ge that!

When is the T Swift trivia night?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

New album, her 12th, coming this year. Release date still forthcoming.

I hope and pray they release on opening day of the NFL season.

I read somewhere that it will be 10/13

 

[culdeus]

The previous album barely hit my radar.

 

[Joey Wright]

When is the T Swift trivia night?

I'll have to go out and ask my friend Liz Loza to special guest on this week!

 

[Joey Wright]

Myself and Jeff Bell will be in our Footballguys Discord tonight for a Taylor Swift on New Heights Watch Party at 7 PM if anyone is going to listen right away. We will have a chat going in the video-ama channel while we all watch or listen along!

 

[Ghost Rider]

Myself and Jeff Bell will be in our Footballguys Discord tonight for a Taylor Swift on New Heights Watch Party at 7 PM if anyone is going to listen right away. We will have a chat going in the video-ama channel while we all watch or listen along!

Nice!

 

[Capella]

She’s back. Album has some catchy songs.

 

[Joey Wright]

The album is really fun. Blushed a few times on Wood, haha. I will say Eldest Daughter... she sounds happy and hopeful. While I love all the angsty Taylor, it is nice to have a song where you can hear she really feels she found love.

 

[GroveDiesel]

For the most part I enjoyed the more positive/hopeful songs and didn’t care for the more bitter/score settling/victim songs. I liked Fate of Ophelia, Opalite and Eldest Daughter.

I’ve been a fan of TS for a long time, but the incessant need to churn out songs to go after exes and folks she has beef with is starting to wear thin with me. Show some depth and some personal growth beyond the constant relationship drama and playing the victim.

The irony of Actually Romantic was enough to make my eyes roll. If you go to the trouble of making a song about how much another artist’s barbs don’t hurt you and mock them for how much room you’re taking up in their brain, well, I have some bad news for you.

A few good songs but overall one of my least favorite TS albums on initial listen mostly due to her self-indulgence.

 

[massraider]

I’ve been a fan of TS for a long time, but the incessant need to churn out songs to go after exes and folks she has beef with is starting to wear thin with me. Show some depth and some personal growth beyond the constant relationship drama and playing the victim.

The irony of Actually Romantic was enough to make my eyes roll. If you go to the trouble of making a song about how much another artist’s barbs don’t hurt you and mock them for how much room you’re taking up in their brain, well, I have some bad news for you.

It might be wearing thin with you, what about the vast majority of her fans? Do you think the more salacious parts of this album (Kelce's johnson! Charli XCX does coke!) are annoying to them, or you think they absolutely eat up every sleazy easter egg someone finds?

Beef with other people is good for business.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Singing about her relationships and what is going on in her life is what she has always done. This is not new. I could do without some of the innuendos on this record, but it's still a fun little record. Taylor Swift records rarely sound this playful and fun. I doubt it will be a favorite of mine, but it's a nice record. Not great, but good.

 

[massraider]

Here’s the full breakdown of The Life of a Showgirl physical copies.

Starting off with the original version, Barnes & Noble has the best price for both the CD and vinyl LP at time of publish

The standard editions are officially titled: Sweat and Vanilla Perfume CD With Poster and Sweat and Vanilla Perfume Portofino Orange Glitter Vinyl. As described, the former comes with a folded poster, double-sided and measuring approximately 19 inches by 9.5 inches. It also includes a jewel case with collectible front and back cover art, one disc with collectible disc artwork and a collectible eight-page booklet that includes never-before-seen photos and song lyrics.

The Sweat and Vanilla Perfume Vinyl is translucent orange with gold glitter. Included with purchase are a collectible double gatefold jacket with a unique front and back cover, a full-size gatefold photograph of Swift, a double-sided foldout panel which includes a poem written by Swift on one side and a photo strip with four photos on the other and collectible album sleeves which include never-before-seen photos and album lyrics.

As for the special editions of the vinyl and CD, unlike Wicked: For Good, which has a variety of retailer-exclusive versions, Target is the only major retailer with its own special packaging. Starting off with the CD, Target has three unique offerings: the It’s Beautiful edition, It’s Frightening edition and It’s Rapturous edition.
Each CD includes a double-sided folded poster, unique to the edition, a jewel case with collectible front and back cover art, a disc with collectible disc artwork and a collectible eight-page booklet that includes never-before-seen photos and song lyrics. All three versions are available for at Target.com for $14.99.

Finally, Target has a limited run of retailer-exclusive vinyl called The Life of a Showgirl: The Crowd is Your King Edition (Summertime Spritz Pink Shimmer Vinyl). It’s an opaque pink and pale yellow pearlescent vinyl with gold shimmer and includes a 24-inch-by-36-inch double-sided poster featuring photos of Swift, collectible custom gatefold jacket with unique front and back cover and cut-out reveal of vinyl disc, full-size gatefold photograph of Swift, double-sided foldout panel which includes a poem written by Swift on one side and a photo strip with four unique photos on the other and collectible album sleeves which include never-before-seen photos and album lyrics. It retails for $34.99.

Every Taylor Swift ‘The Life of a Showgirl’ Vinyl, CD and Retailer-Exclusive Edition Currently Available

Plus, which e-tailers have the best deal on physical copies.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Don Quixote]

Here’s the full breakdown of The Life of a Showgirl physical copies.

Starting off with the original version, Barnes & Noble has the best price for both the CD and vinyl LP at time of publish

The standard editions are officially titled: Sweat and Vanilla Perfume CD With Poster and Sweat and Vanilla Perfume Portofino Orange Glitter Vinyl. As described, the former comes with a folded poster, double-sided and measuring approximately 19 inches by 9.5 inches. It also includes a jewel case with collectible front and back cover art, one disc with collectible disc artwork and a collectible eight-page booklet that includes never-before-seen photos and song lyrics.

The Sweat and Vanilla Perfume Vinyl is translucent orange with gold glitter. Included with purchase are a collectible double gatefold jacket with a unique front and back cover, a full-size gatefold photograph of Swift, a double-sided foldout panel which includes a poem written by Swift on one side and a photo strip with four photos on the other and collectible album sleeves which include never-before-seen photos and album lyrics.

As for the special editions of the vinyl and CD, unlike Wicked: For Good, which has a variety of retailer-exclusive versions, Target is the only major retailer with its own special packaging. Starting off with the CD, Target has three unique offerings: the It’s Beautiful edition, It’s Frightening edition and It’s Rapturous edition.
Each CD includes a double-sided folded poster, unique to the edition, a jewel case with collectible front and back cover art, a disc with collectible disc artwork and a collectible eight-page booklet that includes never-before-seen photos and song lyrics. All three versions are available for at Target.com for $14.99.

Finally, Target has a limited run of retailer-exclusive vinyl called The Life of a Showgirl: The Crowd is Your King Edition (Summertime Spritz Pink Shimmer Vinyl). It’s an opaque pink and pale yellow pearlescent vinyl with gold shimmer and includes a 24-inch-by-36-inch double-sided poster featuring photos of Swift, collectible custom gatefold jacket with unique front and back cover and cut-out reveal of vinyl disc, full-size gatefold photograph of Swift, double-sided foldout panel which includes a poem written by Swift on one side and a photo strip with four unique photos on the other and collectible album sleeves which include never-before-seen photos and album lyrics. It retails for $34.99.

Every Taylor Swift ‘The Life of a Showgirl’ Vinyl, CD and Retailer-Exclusive Edition Currently Available

Plus, which e-tailers have the best deal on physical copies.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

My wife bought the vinyl from Target. We don’t even have a record player that can play it.

 

[massraider]

My wife bought the vinyl from Target. We don’t even have a record player that can play it.

So she went for the Summertime Spritz Pink Shimmer Vinyl, rather than the Sweat and Vanilla Perfume Portofino Orange Glitter Vinyl?

 

[GroveDiesel]

I’ve been a fan of TS for a long time, but the incessant need to churn out songs to go after exes and folks she has beef with is starting to wear thin with me. Show some depth and some personal growth beyond the constant relationship drama and playing the victim.

The irony of Actually Romantic was enough to make my eyes roll. If you go to the trouble of making a song about how much another artist’s barbs don’t hurt you and mock them for how much room you’re taking up in their brain, well, I have some bad news for you.

It might be wearing thin with you, what about the vast majority of her fans? Do you think the more salacious parts of this album (Kelce's johnson! Charli XCX does coke!) are annoying to them, or you think they absolutely eat up every sleazy easter egg someone finds?

Beef with other people is good for business.

I’m sure you’re correct, though this album doesn’t seem to be getting QUITE the same love as most of her stuff so far. Though I’m sure it will hit a billion streams in its first week and sell a boatload of albums.

For me personally, folklore and evermore were her two best albums and actually felt like they had depth to them even when they were addressing relationships/feuds. They felt more “real”. This one just seems more like petty mean girl stuff which is dime a dozen in the pop world IMO.

 

[massraider]

This one just seems more like petty mean girl stuff which is dime a dozen in the pop world IMO.

As you said, she will get away with it, whether it's a good album or not.

At this point, I don't think reviews matter at all, for Taylor Swift. When the fans are deciding what they think about this album, they'll be listening to other dedicated Swifties, not some rando wannabe journalist. Because now it's a club, it's a community.

I'm much more interested in Taylor Swift the businessperson than the musical artist, but she seems to be crushing at both.

 

[Don Quixote]

My wife bought the vinyl from Target. We don’t even have a record player that can play it.

So she went for the Summertime Spritz Pink Shimmer Vinyl, rather than the Sweat and Vanilla Perfume Portofino Orange Glitter Vinyl?

Uh, apparently.

 

[culdeus]

Some decent stuff on this one. Some decent radio friendly hits in there and some nsfw stuff which I guess gets toned down maybe to go in wide release?

 

[Judge Smails]

Some decent stuff on this one. Some decent radio friendly hits in there and some nsfw stuff which I guess gets toned down maybe to go in wide release?

They already did that. Skies instead of thighs

 

[Ghost Rider]

I’ve been a fan of TS for a long time, but the incessant need to churn out songs to go after exes and folks she has beef with is starting to wear thin with me. Show some depth and some personal growth beyond the constant relationship drama and playing the victim.

The irony of Actually Romantic was enough to make my eyes roll. If you go to the trouble of making a song about how much another artist’s barbs don’t hurt you and mock them for how much room you’re taking up in their brain, well, I have some bad news for you.

It might be wearing thin with you, what about the vast majority of her fans? Do you think the more salacious parts of this album (Kelce's johnson! Charli XCX does coke!) are annoying to them, or you think they absolutely eat up every sleazy easter egg someone finds?

Beef with other people is good for business.

I’m sure you’re correct, though this album doesn’t seem to be getting QUITE the same love as most of her stuff so far. Though I’m sure it will hit a billion streams in its first week and sell a boatload of albums.

For me personally, folklore and evermore were her two best albums and actually felt like they had depth to them even when they were addressing relationships/feuds. They felt more “real”. This one just seems more like petty mean girl stuff which is dime a dozen in the pop world IMO.

I am sure some will say this sounds pretentious on her part (but being pretentious often goes hand in hand with being an artist), but Swift said years ago that she has 3 types of lyrics:

1) Quill lyrics - ones that feature words and phrases that are antiquated, evoking a sense of history and literature.
2) Fountain pen lyrics - ones that paint a picture with precise imagery, and told with vivid, sensory details that immerse the listener in the moment.
3) Glitter gel pen lyrics - ones that are characterized by being fun, frivolous and carefree, and often are bouncy and syncopated and can be described as silly and fun.

I think it's clear already that much of the new album was written in the style of the 3rd option there, while Folklore and Evermore were in the style of the first two.

 

[themeanmachine]

I liked that it was more upbeat and catchy, some nice radio friendly hits.

Daughter (19) detests it, says she thinks it’s she worst album she’s ever made. Due to the lyrics, which she says are “so cringe”, then rattled off a half dozen examples.

 

[bagger]

I liked that it was more upbeat and catchy, some nice radio friendly hits.

Daughter (19) detests it, says she thinks it’s she worst album she’s ever made. Due to the lyrics, which she says are “so cringe”, then rattled off a half dozen examples.

Having a 10 and 13 year old daughter, been listening to this a bunch. Feels very light and poppy, no real upbeat songs but a bit more
Mellow of a vibe.

Almost overproduced and sounds more like Sabrina carpenter (obviously she collabs with her on the album title). Apparently she is going to release a more stripped down acoustic version of the album which in many respects a lot of people may like more.

It’s very listenable, if almost too easy to and almost forgettable where it could be any current pop star who’s popular today.