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The Hillary Clinton thread. 'Done' but not going away. (2 Viewers)

McBokonon said:
National candidates will go to states they expect to win by a landslide often to campaign with local/state/Congressional candidates in tougher districts or races. Trump still campaigned in Texas despite there not being any real chance of him losing the state, for example (despite how much the media and Dems talked about a purple Texas, it was never in doubt.) 

This is a general comment, not a comment on Hillary’s campaign which was indeed terrible. 
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Oh, I agree, going to Cally though was a waste in time for Hillary. Hillary would have won Cally by the same amount had she not visited there or ever mentioned them.

 
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Summer Wheat said:
Oh, I agree, going to Cally though was a waste in time for Hillary. Hillary would have won Cally by the same amount had she not visited there or ever mentioned them.
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Sure, but it might have made a difference in Orange County or other local races that were closer. 

 
John123 said:
Has Hillary conceded the election yet? 
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She conceded the election within 24 hours of election day.  :coffee:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_2016_presidential_campaign#:~:text=Although she won the popular,election and ending the campaign.

Although she won the popular vote by little less than 2.9 million votes, Clinton conceded the 2016 presidential election to Republican Donald Trump on November 9 after media outlets declared Trump had exceeded the 270 electoral college vote threshold needed to win the election and ending the campaign.

 
squistion said:
She conceded the election within 24 hours of election day.  :coffee:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_2016_presidential_campaign#:~:text=Although she won the popular,election and ending the campaign.

Although she won the popular vote by little less than 2.9 million votes, Clinton conceded the 2016 presidential election to Republican Donald Trump on November 9 after media outlets declared Trump had exceeded the 270 electoral college vote threshold needed to win the election and ending the campaign.
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Sure she did.  This is her in 2019:

You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you
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John123 said:
Sure she did.  This is her in 2019:
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She was talking about Russian disinformation, not that ballot counts were actually wrong. Stupid choice of words but when you read the quote in its entirety and in context, you know she wasn’t saying votes were altered. Not that you care.

 
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McBokonon said:
She was talking about Russian disinformation, not that ballot counts were actually wrong. Stupid choice of words but when you read the quote in its entirety and in context, you know she wasn’t saying votes were altered. Not that you care.
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They don't, which is why the lie that she didn't or hasn't conceded the 2016 election keeps getting repeated in this forum. 

 
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She actually conceded…that is a fact.  No matter how dumb her other statements are.  Nor do they have the same effect as coming from a sotting POTUS.

The whataboutism here is pretty weak as is ignoring that she dod, in fact, concede the election.

 
sho nuff said:
She actually conceded…that is a fact.  No matter how dumb her other statements are.  Nor do they have the same effect as coming from a sotting POTUS.

The whataboutism here is pretty weak as is ignoring that she dod, in fact, concede the election.
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This is the level of discourse we have to deal with in this forum. Someone makes a false statement, and you correct them with the facts and provide a link...but then they come right back and again repeat the same false statement.  :doh:

 
squistion said:
This is the level of discourse we have to deal with in this forum. Someone makes a false statement, and you correct them with the facts and provide a link...but then they come right back and again repeat the same false statement.  :doh:
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You should check out that Kaepernick thread!

 
squistion said:
Bottom line, people like you in 3 key states cost her the election and gave us Trump.

In the Hillary 2016 thread in the FFA that Dodds deleted, Tim, myself and several others said on an almost daily basis that a vote for Stein was a de facto vote for Trump. If you were in California or Alabama obviously it wouldn't made but in states where polling was close to could make the difference between winning and losing, and it did. 

And Hillary is a "corrupt war criminal no one liked"   :lol:  (Fun Fact, she got 2.87 million more votes than Trump)
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You didn't address the part where Hillary campaign promoted Donald Trump 

 
squistion said:
Probably because I don't remember that ever happening.  :coffee:
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"So to take Bush down, Clinton’s team drew up a plan to pump Trump up. Shortly after her kickoff, top aides organized a strategy call, whose agenda included a memo to the Democratic National Committee: “This memo is intended to outline the strategy and goals a potential Hillary Clinton presidential campaign would have regarding the 2016 Republican presidential field,” it read.

“The variety of candidates is a positive here, and many of the lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right. In this scenario, we don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more ‘Pied Piper’ candidates who actually represent the mainstream of the Republican Party,” read the memo.

“Pied Piper candidates include, but aren’t limited to:
• Ted Cruz
• Donald Trump
• Ben Carson
We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to [take] them seriously."

link to Politico article

 
Quint said:
"So to take Bush down, Clinton’s team drew up a plan to pump Trump up. Shortly after her kickoff, top aides organized a strategy call, whose agenda included a memo to the Democratic National Committee: “This memo is intended to outline the strategy and goals a potential Hillary Clinton presidential campaign would have regarding the 2016 Republican presidential field,” it read.

“The variety of candidates is a positive here, and many of the lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right. In this scenario, we don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more ‘Pied Piper’ candidates who actually represent the mainstream of the Republican Party,” read the memo.

“Pied Piper candidates include, but aren’t limited to:
• Ted Cruz
• Donald Trump
• Ben Carson
We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to [take] them seriously."

link to Politico article
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Thanks- it sure is tumbleweeds in here. 

Moral of the story is Hillary Clinton doesn’t get to handwring about ‘trying to warn us’ about Trump when she literally promoted him during the 2016 campaign.  

 
This seems appropriate in more than one thread.  The Washington Post calling Hillary out for false Russian collusion tricks:
 

In short, the Clinton campaign created the Trump-Alfa allegation, fed it to a credulous press that failed to confirm the allegations but ran with them anyway, then promoted the story as if it was legitimate news. The campaign also delivered the claims to the FBI, giving journalists another excuse to portray the accusations as serious and perhaps true.

Most of the press will ignore this news, but the Russia-Trump narrative that Mrs. Clinton sanctioned did enormous harm to the country. It disgraced the FBI, humiliated the press, and sent the country on a three-year investigation to nowhere. Vladimir Putin never came close to doing as much disinformation damage.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-did-it-robby-mook-michael-sussmann-donald-trump-russia-collusion-alfa-bank-11653084709

Still think she's the best thing since sliced bread, Tim?  Or is the Washington Post not credible enough for you?

 
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Quint said:
in before the inevitable "That's an opinion piece, not actual reporting." 
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Sure, but it's significant in that the author is "The Editorial Board."  It's not one person's opinion.  And you know they never would have posted it if not to try to salvage what little credibility they have left. 

 
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