kevthegrad
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Looking at Kirby's avatar, I think everybody reading this thread and looking at that picture are the real winners.
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The Leinart/Warner Situation is the craziest thing I've ever seen (1 Viewer)
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Young 8
Footballguy
LEINART NOT SO HAPPY about this bull#### QBBC
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AsW....o&type=lgns
"I just want them to ride or die with me," Leinart said softly of 2-2 Arizona. "If I'm the franchise quarterback, play me and let me stumble, because I'll fight through it, and that will help me and our team in the long run. I know coaches want to win now, and I guess they have their reasons. But I don't understand it, and this switching back and forth is almost worse than getting benched."
even Big Ben is mocking "moron" Wisenhunt
"The whole thing is weird," says Roethlisberger, who admittedly is not a fan of Whisenhunt, his former offensive coordinator. "He sits Matt all that time, then puts him back in and has him throwing deep? It's just weird. I don't see how it can work. But that's just me."
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AsW....o&type=lgns
"I just want them to ride or die with me," Leinart said softly of 2-2 Arizona. "If I'm the franchise quarterback, play me and let me stumble, because I'll fight through it, and that will help me and our team in the long run. I know coaches want to win now, and I guess they have their reasons. But I don't understand it, and this switching back and forth is almost worse than getting benched."
even Big Ben is mocking "moron" Wisenhunt
"The whole thing is weird," says Roethlisberger, who admittedly is not a fan of Whisenhunt, his former offensive coordinator. "He sits Matt all that time, then puts him back in and has him throwing deep? It's just weird. I don't see how it can work. But that's just me."
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Methinks someone is taking this a bit too seriously.
kutta
Footballguy
at Rothlisberger. That was Leinart's best pass of the day.They were talking about this article on the radio this morning and Leinart was getting beat up pretty bad by Bickley and MJ - two guys who get a lot of inside Cards info. They were both saying they think Warner should start for awhile. MJ even said that some guys in the locker room told him that they thought Kurt gave them the best chance to win.
I'm guessing that Leinart doesn't get many more chances before Kurt actually starts a game.
ChrisHenrysDD
Footballguy
I think it's hilarious that after the biggest win in a decade for the Cards, Leinart is whining that he didn't get to play enough. HELLO? YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.
For some reason Leinart cares. He'd rather play the whole game and have his team lose then win and share the spotlight.Maybe if he could throw the ball over 20 mph he wouldn't need to be pulled from the game.
BeachBums
Footballguy
Tell that to the Chargers.
cstu
Footballguy
Threads like these are what's wrong with fantasy football. Instead of being impressed that the Cards could beat the Steelers, Leinart owners are pissed that even though he's not playing well that he has to split time. If Warner helps the team win, you put him in there. It's that simple.
kevthegrad
Footballguy
What in gods name are you talking about? This is a fantasy football website and a fantasy football forum, and what some of us are collectively whining about is the demise of our fantasy football teams because of this very out of the ordinary coaching decision.Fantasy football and it's popularity might be what's wrong with football fans, or the way we watch the games now, but the bolded line above in your post is almost as absurd as what Wisenhunt is doing. Actually it's more absurd, because the Cards are winning with what he's doing. You are apparently hanging out on a fantasy football site looking to cheer on a team or observe the game as a whole. I don't need to be impressed with a team winning. I need the guy I sunk 1.11 into last year in my dynasty league (not to mention picks in other leagues I'm in) to start and develop and PLAY.
massraider
Footballguy
If it wasn't for fantasy football, I wouldn't care at all about the QB situation for the Cards.Actually, that's not true. As a Raiders fan, I will always keep an eye on Leinart, the guy the Raiders were supposed to take. As far as I am concerned, the Cards can keep his noodle-armed, prima donna butt.
Bears_Man2
Footballguy
Agree with you 100% here. Anyone that's watched knows Warner is soundly outplaying Leinart at this point, he's been a huge spark to the pass game.If/When Leinart comes out of the gate quick, you'll see the juggling end. If he doesn't and Warner continues to play at the very high level he's demonstrated the last 2 games, it'll continue.
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Assani Fisher
Footballguy
I havn't read the entire thread yet, but I believe that the answer is that Kurt Warner is a very very good QB when healthy...hes just never healthy. I think that the Cards wanted Leinart to start, but Warner is simply better....and I don't think you can sell the rest of the team on "we'll go with the worse QB because it'll be better long term" this early in the season- other veteran players who might not be around many more years aren't going to buy into that.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
In today's NFL, I find statements like this to be extremely ignorant. 90% of teams have a shot at the SB when the season starts imo....the NFL really can change that much from year to year.ROTFL1st) the Cards will not make the playoffs....and it they will, it's a sure 1st round exit
One of the worst coaching moves in history? A team that was a perennial doormat, has played @SF, SEA, @BAL and a 3-0 PIT team and is 2-2. The two losses were within a play or two from being wins.
Wisenhunt is in a tough position. Warner is playing well and Leinart is not. Wisenhunt has said from the get-go that the best players will play regardless of salary, draft status, etc. Right now, Warner is the better QB. Leinart is still the future of this franchise. Wisenhunt is trying his best not to damage his ego too badly. However the message is clear "Play better or get out of the way."
What a moron, the guy that's turning the franchise around....
so 2nd) what's the deal of playing a 58yrs QB instead of trying to understand it Leinart is a BUST OR NOT ???
Young 8
Footballguy
biggest win in a decade....a 4th week win....wow
sorry....didin't know this was ARIZONA CARDINALS BOARDLinton Trust
Footballguy
although i don't quite agree that this is what's wrong with fantasy football...people are going to get extra angry at a coach for his decisions if they have starters on a team (or money on a game)BUT ML is playing lousy! if i owned leinert - i would not be crying, i would be looking for other options... be thankful that the coach is making you give up on him this early, saves you the headache of trying to decide that for yourself. The main guy complaining has Brett Favre on his bench? i truely hope you haven't been playing Leinert over him!i find what ARI is doing amusing... hopefully they do it all year, win a super bowl, and spark a QBBC trend so people can cry about it
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Young 8
Footballguy
me too
mdog1967
Footballguy
If you took Leinart with the expectation that he was going to be a stud out the box than your fooling yourself and should lower expectations, that you waisted a pick on a pansy ### USC QB is your own fault, 1.11 or not. Jeez the Guy is already displaying a lack of maturity by focusing on the party scene and by making comments that were bazar after last weeks game. The QB is supposed to be the leader of the team, MATT aint it. If you took him in redraft leagues as your QB1 then your in trouble and deserve to be. Most folks are NFL Fans who also happen to be Playing Fantasy Football, so we cheer our fantasy teams but we all still like to root for our favorite teams as well. We also like our other players say like Boldin, Fitz and Edge to have some value going forward, I believe they have more with Warner. So Nanny, Nanny boo boo.
Fantasy football and it's popularity might be what's wrong with football fans, or the way we watch the games now, but the bolded line above in your post is almost as absurd as what Wisenhunt is doing. Actually it's more absurd, because the Cards are winning with what he's doing. You are apparently hanging out on a fantasy football site looking to cheer on a team or observe the game as a whole. I don't need to be impressed with a team winning. I need the guy I sunk 1.11 into last year in my dynasty league (not to mention picks in other leagues I'm in) to start and develop and PLAY.
Young 8
Footballguy
you'll see at the end of the seasonIn today's NFL, I find statements like this to be extremely ignorant. 90% of teams have a shot at the SB when the season starts imo....the NFL really can change that much from year to year.ROTFL1st) the Cards will not make the playoffs....and it they will, it's a sure 1st round exit
One of the worst coaching moves in history? A team that was a perennial doormat, has played @SF, SEA, @BAL and a 3-0 PIT team and is 2-2. The two losses were within a play or two from being wins.
Wisenhunt is in a tough position. Warner is playing well and Leinart is not. Wisenhunt has said from the get-go that the best players will play regardless of salary, draft status, etc. Right now, Warner is the better QB. Leinart is still the future of this franchise. Wisenhunt is trying his best not to damage his ego too badly. However the message is clear "Play better or get out of the way."
What a moron, the guy that's turning the franchise around....
so 2nd) what's the deal of playing a 58yrs QB instead of trying to understand it Leinart is a BUST OR NOT ???
Agreed. If it weren't for Fantasy Football I wouldn't care about 90% of the games I watch. Particularly as a Dolphins fan seeing as my team has been all but numerically eliminated from the playoffs before the season has even started the last 2 years.me too
johntorn
Footballguy
This situation is funny to me! 
Everyone is soo interested in the QB situation in AZ that noone has taken the time to congradulate Edge on a good start to the year. Last year alot of people were ready to burn Edge on the stake, this year nothing. Maybe it is the 
that we call the cardinals, who knows!!! I still think its funny!!!
Happy to not be a cardinals fan!!!
Everyone is soo interested in the QB situation in AZ that noone has taken the time to congradulate Edge on a good start to the year. Last year alot of people were ready to burn Edge on the stake, this year nothing. Maybe it is the that we call the cardinals, who knows!!! I still think its funny!!!Happy to not be a cardinals fan!!!
Young 8
Footballguy
yeah, a "supposed" Franchise QB should be happy to go back & forth between the field and the benchLOL
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Apparently you don't get it either. Leinart will get his chance. Right now Warner is the better QB for this offense. It's pretty obvious to everyone. Leinart, quite frankly, should be happy that he played at all against Pittsburgh. The NFL is a "what have you done for me lately" league. Whisenhunt has a chance to win right now and needs to field the best team. At the moment that doesn't include Leinart.
Young 8
Footballguy
IF you wanna win now you start the season with Warner....you DON'T start with Leinart then after 3 games you decide to go with this crappy QBBCthis whole Whisenhunt-Leinart thing reminds me the Art Shell-Lamont Jordan 2006 thing
and from what i heard from Pittsburgh...many players weren't exactly happy with Whisenhunt, that's why the Steelers hired Tomlin......
I had (<--operative word) Leinart as my backup QB in both my redraft leagues this year, but dropped him once the news broke on the new gameplan last week.At first I didn't understand why most people on this forum were so outraged at this maneuver (a maneuver which is apparently working just fine so far) but then I realized that a lot of the people on this forum seem to equate a player's fantasy football prowess with actual football quality, instead of noting the many intangible factors that lead mediocre players to be good fantasy plays. For example, do you guys really feel that Jon Kitna is a top 8 QB talent in the eyes of any GM in the NFL?Anyhow, I think the real point here is that just because something screws up your fantasy team, that doesn't make the head coach a bad coach. Lots of teams employ a RBBC approach. This doesn't make them bad football teams to bet money on, it just makes it less palatable from a fantasy football standpoint. Accept it, move on. Whisenhunt's not trying to win fantasy matchups, he's trying to win football games. And he's doing a good job at that with a team lacking real talent at most positions.I just don't get why people keep saying how [insert coach here] is killing their fantasy team instead of just altering their fantasy lineup and adapting to the new reality of the situation at hand. If you think you're a shark but don't have a backup QB better than Leinart right now (except in the deepest of leagues, start 2 QB or 15 team variety) then :newsflash: you're not much of a shark.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Then you heard wrong. The only player not happy with Whisenhunt was Roethlisberger. Whisenhunt hugged just about every guy on the Steelers' team before the game on Sunday. Most of the players were ticked that the Steelers didn't hire either Whis or Grimm.And this is nothing like the Shell/Jordan situation. Leinart is in no way understood to be the best option at QB on this team by anybody except Leinart.
Bottom line, Leinart stinks and should not be the QB; he needs to stop riding the coat-tails of his USC days and DO SOMETHING in the NFL! Leinart is allegedly the QB of their future, and until then he should be considered just that. If they want to throw away their season they should just come out and say it. In Denver, at least Cutler was somewhat useful to the team in certain situations, but Leinart looks like a deer in the headlights when faced with even the smallest amounts of pressure, he is afraid to throw the ball, and is afraid to run. What the heck is that about?!
And yes, I am a Boldin owner in one leadue, and Fitzgerald in the other!
And yes, I am a Boldin owner in one leadue, and Fitzgerald in the other!
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
A true "franchise quarterback" wouldn't use the phrase "franchise quarterback".
Card Trader
Footballguy
And Leinart has denied the quote that has everyone here up in arms.....
SKribbles
Footballguy
CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT53 99 547 53.5 5.53 40 2 3 3 63.8
29 41 390 70.7 9.51 37 3 0 1 125.1
Their numbers look equal too.
Young 8
Footballguy
too bad on WIN/LOSS column they have the same value
SKribbles
Footballguy
They wouldn't if Warner had started every game.
Bears_Man2
Footballguy
Some of you people absolutely amaze me with your fishing. First I read that Pitt lost to AZ because of the heat (in a 70 degree climate controlled, closed roof stadium no less!). Why even comment if it's apparent you don't watch the games? Warner was the whole reason they got in that Baltimore game. Jaw dropping good vs. Baltimore in their house. He looked as good in that game as his did in his prime in STL.
We get it. You have an investment in Leinart (I do too). Don't worry, he'll have his time. Warner has been a spark plug the last 2 games and there's little reason to change that if Leinart continues to come out lackluster in games. When Leinart comes out firing out of the gate, the rotation should end.
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steelcityman
Footballguy
Warner is better for now, or until he gets hit and shatters something in that fragile body. Then you're back to the QB who should have been in, but now he lacks team support/confidence. Leinart just seems a step behind, although he did look better in the 2nd half. Its almost like he thinks he is still at USC and has the best 11 players in the country on his team.
A QB should never be in if he doesn't give his team the best chance to win.Right now Warner gives the Arizona Cardinals the best chance to win games. It isn't good for FF, but in the NFL coaches are only a few wins or losses away from being looked at as great or horrible.
Young 8
Footballguy
yes i have an investement in Leinart, but that's not the problemThe problem is that this QBBC is screwing Leinart & Warner value:
- can you start Leinart ? NO
- can you start Warner ? NO
for me (and all the not-Cardinals fans.....) Whisenhunt can go F h-self.........
ThePittbully
Footballguy
The fact is, if Whisenhunt believes Warner gives them the best chance to win he should be in the game, HOWEVER rotating them back and forth is just downright stupid. If he thought Warner was the guy, he should have been the guy from day one. You dont start your franchise QB and then pull him out at the first hint of a struggle. The guy is a second year player, of course he will struggle at some point. How is he going to develop if anytime the road gets bumpy he's sent to the bench and Warner comes in? He's a young player still learning the game, and Whisenhunt is killing his confidence and making him second guess himself. Yes, you want to win now, but at what price? Is making a run at the division this year worth having an ill prepared QB next year when Warner may not even be there anymore? Alex Smith did terrible his first few games but Nolan didnt rip him out and stick Dilfer in there. And yes I am a Leinart owner, but I didnt plan on starting him this year anyway so I dont consider myself biased
hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
Warner makes less $$ then Leinart, I think Warner should be starter complete game as of now.Future who knows!
Wise in hunts job is to win, makes no difference how, he's keeping all happy.....Leinart (not benched) Warner (playing time) the owner (winning plus playing the big $$$ QB) fans (winning should of been 3-1 week 3 last second kick-lost), team (all happy so far but Leinart) Fantasy Football owners ( not happy)!
Wise in hunts job is to win, makes no difference how, he's keeping all happy.....Leinart (not benched) Warner (playing time) the owner (winning plus playing the big $$$ QB) fans (winning should of been 3-1 week 3 last second kick-lost), team (all happy so far but Leinart) Fantasy Football owners ( not happy)!
perry147
Footballguy
kutta
Footballguy
I guess you don't live in Arizona.Besides the 1998 playoff win, can you name a bigger win in the past 10 years? We have a new coach, a new system, a new stadium, and a growing fan base. To win this game against one of the best teams in the league and a recent super bowl winner was a HUGE win for this franchise. This really is the most optimism I've seen for this team since they came to Arizona. I might go out on a limb and say that besides the playoff win in 1998, this is the biggest win in the past 20 years for this franchise.biggest win in a decade....a 4th week win....wow
GridironMenace
Footballguy
This is just the first post you made, but I could have selected any one of about 5 unnecessarily aggressive posts that you have made. But the point is that Wisenhunt is not looking at the big picture. He is willing to stunt the growth of his prized player just to maybe win a few more games this year. We all know what Warner is. He is a guy that given the reigns will throw countless interceptions and lose countless fumbles. That is such a myopic view on things to boost his own ego and is doing nothing but making the team worse over the course of the next 2 or 3 years. Show confidence in your QB, let him play through his shortcomings- that is the only way one can learn. Troy Aikman won one game in his first season as a pro. What would have happened if he wasn't allowed to learn and get better? Jay Cutler is having growing pains, but we don't see Shanny playing QBBC. Wisenhunt is a moron for this move and he is a moron in his play calling for the first 4 weeks. Can the offensive play calling get any worse?
One of the worst coaching moves in history? A team that was a perennial doormat, has played @SF, SEA, @BAL and a 3-0 PIT team and is 2-2. The two losses were within a play or two from being wins.
Wisenhunt is in a tough position. Warner is playing well and Leinart is not. Wisenhunt has said from the get-go that the best players will play regardless of salary, draft status, etc. Right now, Warner is the better QB. Leinart is still the future of this franchise. Wisenhunt is trying his best not to damage his ego too badly. However the message is clear "Play better or get out of the way."
What a moron, the guy that's turning the franchise around....
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
leinart is playing like, i don't know... like somebody named mattie...
disclaimer... i own him in several dynasty leagues (behind guys like romo & mcnabb)...
bloom warned about him last year for a few reasons (too hollywood, questioned his psyche & leadership), but i thought at the time he was too harsh... now i'm not sure, but starting to come around to his way of thinking... imo, leinart's value will be higher in future, otherwise i might look to trade him if i had good options at backup & could get something of value in return...
its not just the mattie commercials (OUCH!
)... he had an espn article in the off-season (why i wasn't drafted higher?), which while it was written in a tongue-in-cheek style, since he repeatedly mention the subject earlier in ways thet WEREN'T tongue-in-cheek, people can hardly be blamed for thinking that he comes across as self-centered at times...
first of all, nobody cares where he was drafted, its ancient history... it also seems misguided, because meanwhile, while he is whining, VY is tearing things up and demonstrating convincingly why young was selected where he was & leinart went where he did...
one reason cited by whisenhunt for playing warner is that he knows the no huddle package better... yet leinart is reportedly more interested in nightclubbing... why isn't he studying the playbook? this is the third offense he has had in three years, & it sounds like he needs the homework... joe namath was known to hit the town, but at least he could back it up with his play...
the ill-timed recent remarks that alluded to allowing the TEAM to lose so mattie could learn on the job, if true (he said they were taken out of context, but in what context could they possibly be interpreted favorably), perpetuate the self-centered vibe & sense of entitlement & make him come off as a spoiled child... he doesn't GET IT.
they were also ill-timed for not celebrating what WAS one of the most important wins for the team in years, & what could be a watershed game this season... they are only one game out of first place in a division that could be wide open (SEA still the team to beat, but could be vulnerable to a smashmouth running attack that ARI is evolving into, PIT-west style)...
rod woodson called him out after first time leinart was pulled (in BAL)... he went to bench & sulked & pouted, rather than being on the sidelines, staying in the game with HC, OC & warner (who has been supportive of leinart), supporting the team...
he is showing zero leadership, & doesn't deserve to have the job handed to him, he needs to work at it & earn it... maybe it was in BAL game where commentator stated that after a poor early season showing, edge had tried to impress on him that he needed to work like peyton manning to get to the top, & he had to spend more time in the playbook... why would he need to be externally motivated by somebody else to prod him into doing what he already should have been doing on his own?
he did have a very good supporting cast at USC, the jump up in talent to the NFL is a steep & severe one (ask ryan leaf), and if he thinks he can coast & become a great one, or the rest of the team will be OK if he drags them down by his willingness to be less than great rather than work hard & take his craft seriosly, maybe the best thing for him would be whisenhunt attempting to disabuse him of that notion (though you could make the argument that if he can't figure this out on his own it is already too late for him... he doesn't have the composition to be self-motivated needed for greatness)...
one problem could be that leinart was in a more wide open attack under green... this created bigger lanes & windows to throw through & into... he seemed more decisive as a rookie (see the CHI MNF game last year)... ARI under whisenhunt is not as spread out, and may not play to leanart's strengths as well... his arm is not as strong as rothliesberger, and that may be making it harder for him to pull the trigger, throwing into tighter & more constricted lanes/windows...
those dissing warner may not be taking into account this could be a drastically improved OL, & he hasn't played behind a good one, probably since the days he was the MVP during greatest show on turf days... he did have an issue gripping the ball for a few years, but that problem is clearly behind him...
imo, warner does give them the best chance to win now... QB is not a position where you are done at 30 (jeff garcia), and he could give them the best chance to win for a few years, not just this one...
the team did pay leinart a lot of money, & it some point, i would expect him to take the reigns more decisively & authoritatively... than again, whisenhunt didn't draft him, and based on rothliesberger's comments, he seems to distrust young QBs (& probably for good reason)...
if leinart is so constitutionally weak that his confidence could be shattered by playing behind a better, more experienced QB for the time being, than he doesn't have the right stuff for the QB position at the NFL level, & the team is better off finding that out now...
that said, i'm not saying that is the case, but addressing the argument that his confidence will be irreparably harmed...
disclaimer... i own him in several dynasty leagues (behind guys like romo & mcnabb)...
bloom warned about him last year for a few reasons (too hollywood, questioned his psyche & leadership), but i thought at the time he was too harsh... now i'm not sure, but starting to come around to his way of thinking... imo, leinart's value will be higher in future, otherwise i might look to trade him if i had good options at backup & could get something of value in return...
its not just the mattie commercials (OUCH!
)... he had an espn article in the off-season (why i wasn't drafted higher?), which while it was written in a tongue-in-cheek style, since he repeatedly mention the subject earlier in ways thet WEREN'T tongue-in-cheek, people can hardly be blamed for thinking that he comes across as self-centered at times...first of all, nobody cares where he was drafted, its ancient history... it also seems misguided, because meanwhile, while he is whining, VY is tearing things up and demonstrating convincingly why young was selected where he was & leinart went where he did...
one reason cited by whisenhunt for playing warner is that he knows the no huddle package better... yet leinart is reportedly more interested in nightclubbing... why isn't he studying the playbook? this is the third offense he has had in three years, & it sounds like he needs the homework... joe namath was known to hit the town, but at least he could back it up with his play...
the ill-timed recent remarks that alluded to allowing the TEAM to lose so mattie could learn on the job, if true (he said they were taken out of context, but in what context could they possibly be interpreted favorably), perpetuate the self-centered vibe & sense of entitlement & make him come off as a spoiled child... he doesn't GET IT.
they were also ill-timed for not celebrating what WAS one of the most important wins for the team in years, & what could be a watershed game this season... they are only one game out of first place in a division that could be wide open (SEA still the team to beat, but could be vulnerable to a smashmouth running attack that ARI is evolving into, PIT-west style)...
rod woodson called him out after first time leinart was pulled (in BAL)... he went to bench & sulked & pouted, rather than being on the sidelines, staying in the game with HC, OC & warner (who has been supportive of leinart), supporting the team...
he is showing zero leadership, & doesn't deserve to have the job handed to him, he needs to work at it & earn it... maybe it was in BAL game where commentator stated that after a poor early season showing, edge had tried to impress on him that he needed to work like peyton manning to get to the top, & he had to spend more time in the playbook... why would he need to be externally motivated by somebody else to prod him into doing what he already should have been doing on his own?
he did have a very good supporting cast at USC, the jump up in talent to the NFL is a steep & severe one (ask ryan leaf), and if he thinks he can coast & become a great one, or the rest of the team will be OK if he drags them down by his willingness to be less than great rather than work hard & take his craft seriosly, maybe the best thing for him would be whisenhunt attempting to disabuse him of that notion (though you could make the argument that if he can't figure this out on his own it is already too late for him... he doesn't have the composition to be self-motivated needed for greatness)...
one problem could be that leinart was in a more wide open attack under green... this created bigger lanes & windows to throw through & into... he seemed more decisive as a rookie (see the CHI MNF game last year)... ARI under whisenhunt is not as spread out, and may not play to leanart's strengths as well... his arm is not as strong as rothliesberger, and that may be making it harder for him to pull the trigger, throwing into tighter & more constricted lanes/windows...
those dissing warner may not be taking into account this could be a drastically improved OL, & he hasn't played behind a good one, probably since the days he was the MVP during greatest show on turf days... he did have an issue gripping the ball for a few years, but that problem is clearly behind him...
imo, warner does give them the best chance to win now... QB is not a position where you are done at 30 (jeff garcia), and he could give them the best chance to win for a few years, not just this one...
the team did pay leinart a lot of money, & it some point, i would expect him to take the reigns more decisively & authoritatively... than again, whisenhunt didn't draft him, and based on rothliesberger's comments, he seems to distrust young QBs (& probably for good reason)...
if leinart is so constitutionally weak that his confidence could be shattered by playing behind a better, more experienced QB for the time being, than he doesn't have the right stuff for the QB position at the NFL level, & the team is better off finding that out now...
that said, i'm not saying that is the case, but addressing the argument that his confidence will be irreparably harmed...
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