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Yitbos69

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THE LIST is my 2008 off-season Dynasty RB Rankings (Top 24).....These will change over the course of the off-season. This is no PPR. This list does not include Rookies.

Tier 1

SJax- Had some injury problems is 2007. Jackson bounces back and leads the league in total yards and TD's in 2008

LT- It is what it is.....the guy is great and is a triple threat

All Day- Peterson was way better than I thought he was.....and I thought he was pretty darn good when he gets in the secondary it's going to the house

Tier 2

Addia-Good at catching the ball out of the backfield. TD's were up in 2007

Gore- Great all round back with speed and power

LJ- His O-line is not what it once was...I think LJ will have a strong 2008(I think he will have an even bigger chip on his shoulder)

Westy- Could be higher in this tier and a top tier guy in PPR

Tier 3

Portis-He gets the carries....I don't see 2008 any differently 300+ carries for CP and another top 10 finish

Fast Willie-Parker's TD's will be up in 2008(really the only direction they could go) and he like Portis will get 300+ carries

Willis-Put up some nice #'s in his 1st year with the Ravens....I think he will be better in 2008

Lynch- Real nice Rookie season on a pretty bad team...he could be higher but lets see what he can do in 2008 before we put him in the top 10

MB3-Beast....... who works great in a two back system

Tier4

R.Bush-Great in the open field...great in the passing game...poor inside runner

Ronnie Brown- was having a great 2007 season and a freak injury ended it short....if Brown is healthy to start the 2008 season he moves up

MJD-Another Rb who seems to do well in a two back system...not sure how he would do with 250 carries though

Grant-If he is the Starter for GB in 2008 he should have a productive year

Jacobs-injury concerns and the emergence of Bradshaw hurts Jacobs dynasty value

M.Turner-Should get a starting gig in 2008....he could more up if he lands with a run 1st team

J.Lewis-look like the old Jamal in 2007...2008 looks just as bright

Tier 5

K.Jones-his late season injury drops Jones down the rankings but if he comes back healthy in 2008 like Brown he will more up the list

Maroney-This guy just needs more carries...not sure he will get them on the pass happy Pats

White-got over 300 carries in 2007...I see more of the same in 2008

Rudi-not a good 2007 for Rudi "Safe Pick" Johnson....I still think when healthy Rudi will be the main man in Cin.

Edge-2008 will see another 300+ carry season for the Edge but how many more will follow?

Have at it gents.

 
The entire offense in KC is a mess. I believe LJ's performance from last year is going to be repeated, he'll be a great matchup play but every week starter? No way.

I'm digging Gore in PPR, but with either Martz in town for the next few years or a completely new system in San Fran in 09 [due to the whole staff getting canned] in a nonPPR he does not belong that high.

The miles on Westy are too great to have him so high, assuming nonPPR.

Been hearing rumors that Pittsburgh's in the market for another RB to share the load with Fast Willie, move him down. especially if the player acquired is of the goal line variety.

If MB3 stays in Dallas I believe he'll be the main guy next year. Injury hazard or not [due to running style] I'll take that risk in the middle of the 1st - move him up.

Move MJD up, as a backup in a 2 back system he's finished in the top 12 back-to-back years. That's his floor, his ceiling is enormous. That and he's the primary goal line back + a threat in the passing game.

Bump J Lew down to the top of the next tier, I don't think you can expect more than one more productive season. Definitely no more than two.

At least move Maroney up to the next tier, what he's shown since December at least gives him one more chance. I think he may be a steal next season.

 
The entire offense in KC is a mess. I believe LJ's performance from last year is going to be repeated, he'll be a great matchup play but every week starter? No way.I'm digging Gore in PPR, but with either Martz in town for the next few years or a completely new system in San Fran in 09 [due to the whole staff getting canned] in a nonPPR he does not belong that high.The miles on Westy are too great to have him so high, assuming nonPPR.Been hearing rumors that Pittsburgh's in the market for another RB to share the load with Fast Willie, move him down. especially if the player acquired is of the goal line variety.If MB3 stays in Dallas I believe he'll be the main guy next year. Injury hazard or not [due to running style] I'll take that risk in the middle of the 1st - move him up.Move MJD up, as a backup in a 2 back system he's finished in the top 12 back-to-back years. That's his floor, his ceiling is enormous. That and he's the primary goal line back + a threat in the passing game.Bump J Lew down to the top of the next tier, I don't think you can expect more than one more productive season. Definitely no more than two.At least move Maroney up to the next tier, what he's shown since December at least gives him one more chance. I think he may be a steal next season.
Does`nt this attitude about westbrook EVER get old and go away...i mean what does the guy have to do to get fantasy respect???
 
Over the weekend I made my own list but for PPR. We have some definite differences of opinion on some of these guys, in some cases because of the PPR factor. I also tried to factor in the rookies. There is obviously a lot that we will see before late August when most of us draft that will cause radical changes to our lists.

Tier 1: 1-4 Westbrook, LT, S Jax, ADP .... All are rated fairly equal, but Westy has greater ppr implications. With his continued string of strong seasons, I have quit rating him down because of his size (or his age), although a great case can be made any order of the top four.

Tier 2: 5-8 Gore, Addai, Lynch, MBIII..... Again, I couldn't argue much with any selection order with these 4 guys.

Tier 3: 9-10 MJD, Bush .... Both are rated in this tier because of their ppr implications ahead of tier 4 guys.

Tier 4: 11-17 LJ, McGahee, Portis, McFadden, Parker, Grant, Stewart.... The top 2 rookies should land somewhere in this tier.

Tier 5: 18-27 F. Jones, Mendenhall, Graham, White, Maroney, Bradshaw, Brown, Turner, Lewis, Ward .... Now we are gettin to more questionable territory. I really like the 2 rooks and Graham; and I think that Bradshaw will outperform Jacobs next year and for his career. I knocked R. Brown down because I don't think he will be 100% next year, and Turner is not only a function of where he winds up (just like the rookies) but I think he has less value in PPR.

Tier 6: 28-35 De Williams, Young, Fargas, J. Charles, Jacobs, K Jones, C Taylor, T. Jones,.....This tier.... and the one below are pretty much crap shoots. Youth is much more important than potential next year's production at this tier level

Tier 7: 36-45 A Pete (chi), Pierre Thomas, Ray Rice, Norwood, F Taylor, J Jones, Edge, Rudi, Benson, McAllister..... At this tier level, I have to more strongly favor the younger guys in dynasty leagues, although you MIGHT get another year out of one of the older guys. I like Peterson much better than Benson BTW, esp in PPR.

I didnt mean to hijack your list but rather add fuel to the discussion. Did i overlook any?

 
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The entire offense in KC is a mess. I believe LJ's performance from last year is going to be repeated, he'll be a great matchup play but every week starter? No way.I'm digging Gore in PPR, but with either Martz in town for the next few years or a completely new system in San Fran in 09 [due to the whole staff getting canned] in a nonPPR he does not belong that high.The miles on Westy are too great to have him so high, assuming nonPPR.Been hearing rumors that Pittsburgh's in the market for another RB to share the load with Fast Willie, move him down. especially if the player acquired is of the goal line variety.If MB3 stays in Dallas I believe he'll be the main guy next year. Injury hazard or not [due to running style] I'll take that risk in the middle of the 1st - move him up.Move MJD up, as a backup in a 2 back system he's finished in the top 12 back-to-back years. That's his floor, his ceiling is enormous. That and he's the primary goal line back + a threat in the passing game.Bump J Lew down to the top of the next tier, I don't think you can expect more than one more productive season. Definitely no more than two.At least move Maroney up to the next tier, what he's shown since December at least gives him one more chance. I think he may be a steal next season.
Does`nt this attitude about westbrook EVER get old and go away...i mean what does the guy have to do to get fantasy respect???
These are dyno rankings, not redraft - he's almost 30. These rankings were for a nonPPR, from what I understood. I'm fine with riding Westbrook until he falls apart in a PPR, but non? 2007 was likely his career year and I'm seeing an Alexander like decline in the near future. Will it be 08? or 09? I don't know, but if I were a Westbrook dyno owner I'd be looking to deal him away while his value is at its peak.
 
Over the weekend I made my own list but for PPR. We have some definite differences of opinion on some of these guys, in some cases because of the PPR factor. I also tried to factor in the rookies. There is obviously a lot that we will see before late August when most of us draft that will cause radical changes to our lists.

Tier 1: 1-4 Westbrook, LT, S Jax, ADP .... All are rated fairly equal, but Westy has greater ppr implications. With his continued string of strong seasons, I have quit rating him down because of his size (or his age), although a great case can be made any order of the top four.

Tier 2: 5-8 Gore, Addai, Lynch, MBIII..... Again, I couldn't argue much with any selection order with these 4 guys.

Tier 3: 9-10 MJD, Bush .... Both are rated in this tier because of their ppr implications ahead of tier 4 guys.

Tier 4: 11-17 LJ, McGahee, Portis, McFadden, Parker, Grant, Stewart.... The top 2 rookies should land somewhere in here.

Tier 5: 18-27 F. Jones, Mendenhall, Graham, White, Maroney, Bradshaw, Brown, Turner, Lewis, Ward .... Now we are gettin to more questionable territory. I really like the 2 rooks and Graham; and I think that Bradshaw will outperform Jacobs next year and for his career. I knocked R. Brown down because I don't think he will be 100% next year, and Turner is not only a function of where he winds up (just like the rookies) but I think he has less value in PPR.

Tier 6: 28-35 De Williams, K. Jones, Young, T. Jones, Jacobs, C. Taylor, Fargas, J.Charles ....This tier.... and the one below are pretty much crap shoots.

Tier 7: 36-45 A Pete (chi), Pierre Thomas, Ray Rice, Norwood, F Taylor, J Jones, Edge, Rudi, Benson, McAllister..... At this tier level, I have to more strongly favor the younger guys in dynasty leagues, although you MIGHT get another year out of one of the older guys. I like Peterson much better than Benson BTW, esp in PPR.

I didnt mean to hijack your list but rather add fuel to the discussion. Did i overlook any?
Thanks for they input...this is the reason for putting out rankings.....for others to give their break down and help you see thing you may have missed
 
Over the weekend I made my own list but for PPR. We have some definite differences of opinion on some of these guys, in some cases because of the PPR factor. I also tried to factor in the rookies. There is obviously a lot that we will see before late August when most of us draft that will cause radical changes to our lists.

Tier 1: 1-4 Westbrook, LT, S Jax, ADP .... All are rated fairly equal, but Westy has greater ppr implications. With his continued string of strong seasons, I have quit rating him down because of his size (or his age), although a great case can be made any order of the top four.

Tier 2: 5-8 Gore, Addai, Lynch, MBIII..... Again, I couldn't argue much with any selection order with these 4 guys.

Tier 3: 9-10 MJD, Bush .... Both are rated in this tier because of their ppr implications ahead of tier 4 guys.

Tier 4: 11-17 LJ, McGahee, Portis, McFadden, Parker, Grant, Stewart.... The top 2 rookies should land somewhere in here.

Tier 5: 18-27 F. Jones, Mendenhall, Graham, White, Maroney, Bradshaw, Brown, Turner, Lewis, Ward .... Now we are gettin to more questionable territory. I really like the 2 rooks and Graham; and I think that Bradshaw will outperform Jacobs next year and for his career. I knocked R. Brown down because I don't think he will be 100% next year, and Turner is not only a function of where he winds up (just like the rookies) but I think he has less value in PPR.

Tier 6: 28-35 De Williams, K. Jones, Young, T. Jones, Jacobs, C. Taylor, Fargas, J.Charles ....This tier.... and the one below are pretty much crap shoots.

Tier 7: 36-45 A Pete (chi), Pierre Thomas, Ray Rice, Norwood, F Taylor, J Jones, Edge, Rudi, Benson, McAllister..... At this tier level, I have to more strongly favor the younger guys in dynasty leagues, although you MIGHT get another year out of one of the older guys. I like Peterson much better than Benson BTW, esp in PPR.

I didnt mean to hijack your list but rather add fuel to the discussion. Did i overlook any?
Thanks for they input...this is the reason for putting out rankings.....for others to give their break down and help you see thing you may have missed
As a Ronnie Brown owner, who all came back from an ACL injury this year. 1) Toomer -- did very well in second half of season

others?

 
MAC_32 said:
The entire offense in KC is a mess. I believe LJ's performance from last year is going to be repeated, he'll be a great matchup play but every week starter? No way.I'm digging Gore in PPR, but with either Martz in town for the next few years or a completely new system in San Fran in 09 [due to the whole staff getting canned] in a nonPPR he does not belong that high.The miles on Westy are too great to have him so high, assuming nonPPR.Been hearing rumors that Pittsburgh's in the market for another RB to share the load with Fast Willie, move him down. especially if the player acquired is of the goal line variety.If MB3 stays in Dallas I believe he'll be the main guy next year. Injury hazard or not [due to running style] I'll take that risk in the middle of the 1st - move him up.Move MJD up, as a backup in a 2 back system he's finished in the top 12 back-to-back years. That's his floor, his ceiling is enormous. That and he's the primary goal line back + a threat in the passing game.Bump J Lew down to the top of the next tier, I don't think you can expect more than one more productive season. Definitely no more than two.At least move Maroney up to the next tier, what he's shown since December at least gives him one more chance. I think he may be a steal next season.
Does`nt this attitude about westbrook EVER get old and go away...i mean what does the guy have to do to get fantasy respect???
These are dyno rankings, not redraft - he's almost 30. These rankings were for a nonPPR, from what I understood. I'm fine with riding Westbrook until he falls apart in a PPR, but non? 2007 was likely his career year and I'm seeing an Alexander like decline in the near future. Will it be 08? or 09? I don't know, but if I were a Westbrook dyno owner I'd be looking to deal him away while his value is at its peak.
Mac,Westy is 28 not 30......he is younger than LT with a lot less miles. He finished 2nd in No PPR leagues. I really thought I had him ranked lower than most.
 
gregjcross said:
Yitbos69 said:
madd futher said:
Over the weekend I made my own list but for PPR. We have some definite differences of opinion on some of these guys, in some cases because of the PPR factor. I also tried to factor in the rookies. There is obviously a lot that we will see before late August when most of us draft that will cause radical changes to our lists.

Tier 1: 1-4 Westbrook, LT, S Jax, ADP .... All are rated fairly equal, but Westy has greater ppr implications. With his continued string of strong seasons, I have quit rating him down because of his size (or his age), although a great case can be made any order of the top four.

Tier 2: 5-8 Gore, Addai, Lynch, MBIII..... Again, I couldn't argue much with any selection order with these 4 guys.

Tier 3: 9-10 MJD, Bush .... Both are rated in this tier because of their ppr implications ahead of tier 4 guys.

Tier 4: 11-17 LJ, McGahee, Portis, McFadden, Parker, Grant, Stewart.... The top 2 rookies should land somewhere in here.

Tier 5: 18-27 F. Jones, Mendenhall, Graham, White, Maroney, Bradshaw, Brown, Turner, Lewis, Ward .... Now we are gettin to more questionable territory. I really like the 2 rooks and Graham; and I think that Bradshaw will outperform Jacobs next year and for his career. I knocked R. Brown down because I don't think he will be 100% next year, and Turner is not only a function of where he winds up (just like the rookies) but I think he has less value in PPR.

Tier 6: 28-35 De Williams, K. Jones, Young, T. Jones, Jacobs, C. Taylor, Fargas, J.Charles ....This tier.... and the one below are pretty much crap shoots.

Tier 7: 36-45 A Pete (chi), Pierre Thomas, Ray Rice, Norwood, F Taylor, J Jones, Edge, Rudi, Benson, McAllister..... At this tier level, I have to more strongly favor the younger guys in dynasty leagues, although you MIGHT get another year out of one of the older guys. I like Peterson much better than Benson BTW, esp in PPR.

I didnt mean to hijack your list but rather add fuel to the discussion. Did i overlook any?
Thanks for they input...this is the reason for putting out rankings.....for others to give their break down and help you see thing you may have missed
As a Ronnie Brown owner, who all came back from an ACL injury this year. 1) Toomer -- did very well in second half of season

others?
Not sure this matters as much in Dynasty rankings.......he will have almost a full year from the time of his injury to the start of the 2008 season(not sure of the recovery time or the severity of browns injury)....I too am a R. Brown owner who is interested in his recovery
 
MAC_32 said:
The entire offense in KC is a mess. I believe LJ's performance from last year is going to be repeated, he'll be a great matchup play but every week starter? No way.I'm digging Gore in PPR, but with either Martz in town for the next few years or a completely new system in San Fran in 09 [due to the whole staff getting canned] in a nonPPR he does not belong that high.The miles on Westy are too great to have him so high, assuming nonPPR.Been hearing rumors that Pittsburgh's in the market for another RB to share the load with Fast Willie, move him down. especially if the player acquired is of the goal line variety.If MB3 stays in Dallas I believe he'll be the main guy next year. Injury hazard or not [due to running style] I'll take that risk in the middle of the 1st - move him up.Move MJD up, as a backup in a 2 back system he's finished in the top 12 back-to-back years. That's his floor, his ceiling is enormous. That and he's the primary goal line back + a threat in the passing game.Bump J Lew down to the top of the next tier, I don't think you can expect more than one more productive season. Definitely no more than two.At least move Maroney up to the next tier, what he's shown since December at least gives him one more chance. I think he may be a steal next season.
Does`nt this attitude about westbrook EVER get old and go away...i mean what does the guy have to do to get fantasy respect???
These are dyno rankings, not redraft - he's almost 30. These rankings were for a nonPPR, from what I understood. I'm fine with riding Westbrook until he falls apart in a PPR, but non? 2007 was likely his career year and I'm seeing an Alexander like decline in the near future. Will it be 08? or 09? I don't know, but if I were a Westbrook dyno owner I'd be looking to deal him away while his value is at its peak.
Mac,Westy is 28 not 30......he is younger than LT with a lot less miles. He finished 2nd in No PPR leagues. I really thought I had him ranked lower than most.
I said almost 30, he'll be 29 opening day 2008.
 
MAC_32 said:
The entire offense in KC is a mess. I believe LJ's performance from last year is going to be repeated, he'll be a great matchup play but every week starter? No way.I'm digging Gore in PPR, but with either Martz in town for the next few years or a completely new system in San Fran in 09 [due to the whole staff getting canned] in a nonPPR he does not belong that high.The miles on Westy are too great to have him so high, assuming nonPPR.Been hearing rumors that Pittsburgh's in the market for another RB to share the load with Fast Willie, move him down. especially if the player acquired is of the goal line variety.If MB3 stays in Dallas I believe he'll be the main guy next year. Injury hazard or not [due to running style] I'll take that risk in the middle of the 1st - move him up.Move MJD up, as a backup in a 2 back system he's finished in the top 12 back-to-back years. That's his floor, his ceiling is enormous. That and he's the primary goal line back + a threat in the passing game.Bump J Lew down to the top of the next tier, I don't think you can expect more than one more productive season. Definitely no more than two.At least move Maroney up to the next tier, what he's shown since December at least gives him one more chance. I think he may be a steal next season.
Does`nt this attitude about westbrook EVER get old and go away...i mean what does the guy have to do to get fantasy respect???
These are dyno rankings, not redraft - he's almost 30. These rankings were for a nonPPR, from what I understood. I'm fine with riding Westbrook until he falls apart in a PPR, but non? 2007 was likely his career year and I'm seeing an Alexander like decline in the near future. Will it be 08? or 09? I don't know, but if I were a Westbrook dyno owner I'd be looking to deal him away while his value is at its peak.
Mac,Westy is 28 not 30......he is younger than LT with a lot less miles. He finished 2nd in No PPR leagues. I really thought I had him ranked lower than most.
I said almost 30, he'll be 29 opening day 2008.
That would make him Almost 29.....and LT almost 29.....do you feel the same way about LT?
 
MAC_32 said:
The entire offense in KC is a mess. I believe LJ's performance from last year is going to be repeated, he'll be a great matchup play but every week starter? No way.I'm digging Gore in PPR, but with either Martz in town for the next few years or a completely new system in San Fran in 09 [due to the whole staff getting canned] in a nonPPR he does not belong that high.The miles on Westy are too great to have him so high, assuming nonPPR.Been hearing rumors that Pittsburgh's in the market for another RB to share the load with Fast Willie, move him down. especially if the player acquired is of the goal line variety.If MB3 stays in Dallas I believe he'll be the main guy next year. Injury hazard or not [due to running style] I'll take that risk in the middle of the 1st - move him up.Move MJD up, as a backup in a 2 back system he's finished in the top 12 back-to-back years. That's his floor, his ceiling is enormous. That and he's the primary goal line back + a threat in the passing game.Bump J Lew down to the top of the next tier, I don't think you can expect more than one more productive season. Definitely no more than two.At least move Maroney up to the next tier, what he's shown since December at least gives him one more chance. I think he may be a steal next season.
Does`nt this attitude about westbrook EVER get old and go away...i mean what does the guy have to do to get fantasy respect???
These are dyno rankings, not redraft - he's almost 30. These rankings were for a nonPPR, from what I understood. I'm fine with riding Westbrook until he falls apart in a PPR, but non? 2007 was likely his career year and I'm seeing an Alexander like decline in the near future. Will it be 08? or 09? I don't know, but if I were a Westbrook dyno owner I'd be looking to deal him away while his value is at its peak.
Mac,Westy is 28 not 30......he is younger than LT with a lot less miles. He finished 2nd in No PPR leagues. I really thought I had him ranked lower than most.
I said almost 30, he'll be 29 opening day 2008.
That would make him Almost 29.....and LT almost 29.....do you feel the same way about LT?
I think it is unfair to compare any of the games current backs to LT [maybe AD, we won't know for a few years though]. And age isn't the be-all end-all, but it is something to consider. You guys make it sound like I'm saying Westbrook isn't a top 10 guy, I'm not. I just don't think he belongs in the top tier; I'd recommend contacting the owners of Addai, MJD, Marshawn, and whoever has the #1 rookie pick to see if I could get any of them + a draft pick/vet - depending on my team needs - for Westbrook. I'd like to cash in on my investment much like a saavy Alexander dyno owner did after his 05 season.
 
no E Graham?
Not sure what his status will be next year....will Caddie come back...still a lot of Question marks
You should reconsider. He deserves a place at the table, if nothing else. 1200+ yards combined 11 TDs is tough to ignore.
Right now he is still outside my top 24...that could change over the offseason
There are other RBs that you have ranked really high but are dogged by questions too. These would include:FWP - great yardage but pitiful TD total;Maroney - sparingly used until the NFL playoffs. Sammy Morris looked better in the NE offense until he went down to injury;Jacobs - couldn't play an entire season healthy. Likely splitting time with Bradshaw; MBIII - eerily similar numbers to Graham, in fact. You concede MBIII needs another RB to function effectively.As someone that had FWP, Maroney and EG this year, I was consistently disappointed with 2 of those 3. I was almost always pleased with EG results. I'm not predicting him to lead the league or anything but, holy cow, there is a lot you are passing up with him...
 
Upon further thought, I'd modify the bottom of my last tier as follows: I'd drop Rudi and McAllister down to the next level, putting M Bush and S Morris in their place.

Then I'd round out the top 50 with Caddy (rate him a long shot to make it back), and the two very situational backs, Booker + Washington.

 
Upon further thought, I'd modify the bottom of my last tier as follows: I'd drop Rudi and McAllister down to the next level, putting M Bush and S Morris in their place.Then I'd round out the top 50 with Caddy (rate him a long shot to make it back), and the two very situational backs, Booker + Washington.
I can see putting M.Bush in there....not sure about Morris.....he has never really done anything.......I will be adding my second 24 after I do WR,QB,TE.
 

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