The Newsroom - new HBO series from Aaron Sorkin (1 Viewer)

[Gr00vus]

And she's a woman, not a superhero.

You couldn't be more wrong !!!

 

[packersfan]

As an example, I don't think a Christian would ever ask 'what does his voice sound like'.

Yeah, that was lame.

I'm a Christian and I thought it was hilarious.I don't deny Sorkin is doing some manipulating with Will being a Republican. But none of the characters, even Will, are fully formed yet. We're learning more and more about them as time goes on. I'm not sure what the big deal was that Maggie went on a rant that, as a Christian, I thought was hilarious and on point. Is it possible Sorkin created her Christianity as a tool to deliver his own point of view? Of course he did. That's what writers often do. But I thought the scene was well-written and well delivered and since the show has only been on the air for a few episodes I didn't see it as a break from character from Maggie since we really don't have enough data to know who she is in totality.

 

[Apple Jack]

And she's a woman, not a superhero.

You couldn't be more wrong !!!

Ha. I stand corrected.And the Maggie thing on Bachman was great. That is absolutely something that should come up in debate prep. Nobody who has the nerve to say God told them to go into politics should get a free pass on that. It is completely in bounds to ask them to explain it. Especially somebody that full of #### and nasty. This is the Presidency, not some neighborhood parish.

 

[toadstool]

As an example, I don't think a Christian would ever ask 'what does his voice sound like'.

Yeah, that was lame.

As an atheist I agree, I know what people mean when they say that.

 

[Apple Jack]

As an example, I don't think a Christian would ever ask 'what does his voice sound like'.

Yeah, that was lame.

As an atheist I agree, I know what people mean when they say that.

Are you being serious? If so, what do they mean?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

As an example, I don't think a Christian would ever ask 'what does his voice sound like'.

Yeah, that was lame.

As an atheist I agree, I know what people mean when they say that.

Are you being serious? If so, what do they mean?

According to my notebook on Christianity, God usually doesn't answer prayers by talking with a voice. He gives guidance by waving his magic wand and clarifying a person's thoughts or reordering her priorities, etc. Much less silly.Maybe Michelle Bachmann prayed about whether to run, then opened the Bible to a random page, came across 1 Corinthians 9:24, and took it as a sign.

It's totally fair to ask Bachmann what she means when she says that God told her to run. But don't just assume she heard voices.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

As an example, I don't think a Christian would ever ask 'what does his voice sound like'.

Yeah, that was lame.

As an atheist I agree, I know what people mean when they say that.

Are you being serious? If so, what do they mean?

According to my notebook on Christianity, God usually doesn't answer prayers by talking with a voice. He gives guidance by waving his magic wand and clarifying a person's thoughts or reordering her priorities, etc. Much less silly.Maybe Michelle Bachmann prayed about whether to run, then opened the Bible to a random page, came across 1 Corinthians 9:24, and took it as a sign.

It's totally fair to ask Bachmann what she means when she says that God told her to run. But don't just assume she heard voices.

Then it gets to the proper point... Bachmann needs to clarify her statements. Told is told.

 

[Chadstroma]

And she's a woman, not a superhero.

You couldn't be more wrong !!!

Ha. I stand corrected.And the Maggie thing on Bachman was great. That is absolutely something that should come up in debate prep. Nobody who has the nerve to say God told them to go into politics should get a free pass on that. It is completely in bounds to ask them to explain it. Especially somebody that full of #### and nasty. This is the Presidency, not some neighborhood parish.

Asking them to explain it is one thing.... asking what God's voice sounds like is a whole different thing. It was just silly. If that entire exchange happened absent the whole 'I am a Christian' thing, then it would not have been a thing for me at all. Maggie is a liberal and if I assumed she was a non-Christian, then I would could see those kind of comments. I just don't see a Christian making those comments regardless of political views. It just smacked of writing a way to give the 'attack' more credibility as opposed to just another liberal making the attack. And honestly, if it was not for the whole McAvoy being a 'Republican' as a way to better attack the Tea Party, I most likely would have let it slide. And yes, I know I am a conservative but I am not talking about politics here (other than how you have to to talk about the show), I am talking about the writing of the show. It just comes off lacking genuine characters. McAvoy does not seem believable to me because of the writing which seems more about an agenda than about character development or story development. It just is no where near Sorkins best because he seems to be writing for ulterior purpose rather than writing for the story.

 

[General Malaise]

As an example, I don't think a Christian would ever ask 'what does his voice sound like'.

Yeah, that was lame.

I liked it. It's the only slice of Maggies performance pie I've enjoyed. Forcing Jim to date her roommate and do all those ridiculous things to placate her might have been my least favorite element of the show so far. That was just stupid.But asking what God sounds like was funny to me. Why is that so over the top? Why shouldn't Christians be offended by somebody who claims that God talked to them? Why doesn't God talk to others? What else does God tell Bachman to do? I liked her moxie on this. To a devil worshiping pagan the idea that a genuine presidential candidate hears voices is alarming to me. Eeeks.

 

[General Malaise]

As an example, I don't think a Christian would ever ask 'what does his voice sound like'.

Yeah, that was lame.

I'm a Christian and I thought it was hilarious.I don't deny Sorkin is doing some manipulating with Will being a Republican. But none of the characters, even Will, are fully formed yet. We're learning more and more about them as time goes on. I'm not sure what the big deal was that Maggie went on a rant that, as a Christian, I thought was hilarious and on point. Is it possible Sorkin created her Christianity as a tool to deliver his own point of view? Of course he did. That's what writers often do. But I thought the scene was well-written and well delivered and since the show has only been on the air for a few episodes I didn't see it as a break from character from Maggie since we really don't have enough data to know who she is in totality.

Said much much better than my feeble attempt.

 

[Chadstroma]

As an example, I don't think a Christian would ever ask 'what does his voice sound like'.

Yeah, that was lame.

I liked it. It's the only slice of Maggies performance pie I've enjoyed. Forcing Jim to date her roommate and do all those ridiculous things to placate her might have been my least favorite element of the show so far. That was just stupid.But asking what God sounds like was funny to me. Why is that so over the top? Why shouldn't Christians be offended by somebody who claims that God talked to them? Why doesn't God talk to others? What else does God tell Bachman to do? I liked her moxie on this. To a devil worshiping pagan the idea that a genuine presidential candidate hears voices is alarming to me. Eeeks.

Again, if coming from a non-Christian, your perspective would make sense as I would not be surprised by a non-Christian to have a similar viewpoint. For a Christian with the view, it just does not make sense- I would be very surprised by it. I would also normally forgive it being written this way by a non-Christian if not for the McAvoy/Republican thing that seems like just the same ole' tool he has been doing thru the show and that has been so very irritating.

 

[Chadstroma]

As an example, I don't think a Christian would ever ask 'what does his voice sound like'.

Yeah, that was lame.

I'm a Christian and I thought it was hilarious.I don't deny Sorkin is doing some manipulating with Will being a Republican. But none of the characters, even Will, are fully formed yet. We're learning more and more about them as time goes on. I'm not sure what the big deal was that Maggie went on a rant that, as a Christian, I thought was hilarious and on point. Is it possible Sorkin created her Christianity as a tool to deliver his own point of view? Of course he did. That's what writers often do. But I thought the scene was well-written and well delivered and since the show has only been on the air for a few episodes I didn't see it as a break from character from Maggie since we really don't have enough data to know who she is in totality.

Ok, your entire post is negated by the fact that you think Allison Pill has delivered anything well in this series.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

As an example, I don't think a Christian would ever ask 'what does his voice sound like'.

Yeah, that was lame.

I'm a Christian and I thought it was hilarious.I don't deny Sorkin is doing some manipulating with Will being a Republican. But none of the characters, even Will, are fully formed yet. We're learning more and more about them as time goes on. I'm not sure what the big deal was that Maggie went on a rant that, as a Christian, I thought was hilarious and on point. Is it possible Sorkin created her Christianity as a tool to deliver his own point of view? Of course he did. That's what writers often do. But I thought the scene was well-written and well delivered and since the show has only been on the air for a few episodes I didn't see it as a break from character from Maggie since we really don't have enough data to know who she is in totality.

Ok, your entire post is negated by the fact that you think Allison Pill has delivered anything well in this series.

He said scene.He didnt say Allison Pill had been anything. Except that Maggie is an "unknown quantity".

Not sure why you felt the need to go personal on him.

 

[General Malaise]

As an example, I don't think a Christian would ever ask 'what does his voice sound like'.

Yeah, that was lame.

I liked it. It's the only slice of Maggies performance pie I've enjoyed. Forcing Jim to date her roommate and do all those ridiculous things to placate her might have been my least favorite element of the show so far. That was just stupid.But asking what God sounds like was funny to me. Why is that so over the top? Why shouldn't Christians be offended by somebody who claims that God talked to them? Why doesn't God talk to others? What else does God tell Bachman to do? I liked her moxie on this. To a devil worshiping pagan the idea that a genuine presidential candidate hears voices is alarming to me. Eeeks.

Again, if coming from a non-Christian, your perspective would make sense as I would not be surprised by a non-Christian to have a similar viewpoint. For a Christian with the view, it just does not make sense- I would be very surprised by it. I would also normally forgive it being written this way by a non-Christian if not for the McAvoy/Republican thing that seems like just the same ole' tool he has been doing thru the show and that has been so very irritating.

I'm not irritated by it. It's supposed to be entertainment and I'm very entertained. Bachman and her anti-homo agenda has certainly been an insult to many in Hollywood. She gets a platform to blast gay people all day long. Why isn't okay for her to get blasted back on a different platform? Turnabout is fair play and payback is a beach.

 

[Maelstrom]

I like Maggie and her annoying character. Still enjoying the show as a whole, and it's poke at the news, politics, etc. If this was a news channel that was actually on, I might actually tune in.

 

[Chadstroma]

As an example, I don't think a Christian would ever ask 'what does his voice sound like'.

Yeah, that was lame.

I'm a Christian and I thought it was hilarious.I don't deny Sorkin is doing some manipulating with Will being a Republican. But none of the characters, even Will, are fully formed yet. We're learning more and more about them as time goes on. I'm not sure what the big deal was that Maggie went on a rant that, as a Christian, I thought was hilarious and on point. Is it possible Sorkin created her Christianity as a tool to deliver his own point of view? Of course he did. That's what writers often do. But I thought the scene was well-written and well delivered and since the show has only been on the air for a few episodes I didn't see it as a break from character from Maggie since we really don't have enough data to know who she is in totality.

Ok, your entire post is negated by the fact that you think Allison Pill has delivered anything well in this series.

He said scene.He didnt say Allison Pill had been anything. Except that Maggie is an "unknown quantity".

Not sure why you felt the need to go personal on him.

She was the scene. There was nothing personal meant in that. Just a little teasing.

Though I Allison Pill is horrible and has not had one decent scene this entire series. It may not be that she is a horrible actress but maybe she is overplaying the character or getting poor directing or the writing is just out of control- not sure why but I am sure that she is horrible.

 

[Chadstroma]

As an example, I don't think a Christian would ever ask 'what does his voice sound like'.

Yeah, that was lame.

I liked it. It's the only slice of Maggies performance pie I've enjoyed. Forcing Jim to date her roommate and do all those ridiculous things to placate her might have been my least favorite element of the show so far. That was just stupid.But asking what God sounds like was funny to me. Why is that so over the top? Why shouldn't Christians be offended by somebody who claims that God talked to them? Why doesn't God talk to others? What else does God tell Bachman to do? I liked her moxie on this. To a devil worshiping pagan the idea that a genuine presidential candidate hears voices is alarming to me. Eeeks.

Again, if coming from a non-Christian, your perspective would make sense as I would not be surprised by a non-Christian to have a similar viewpoint. For a Christian with the view, it just does not make sense- I would be very surprised by it. I would also normally forgive it being written this way by a non-Christian if not for the McAvoy/Republican thing that seems like just the same ole' tool he has been doing thru the show and that has been so very irritating.

I'm not irritated by it. It's supposed to be entertainment and I'm very entertained. Bachman and her anti-homo agenda has certainly been an insult to many in Hollywood. She gets a platform to blast gay people all day long. Why isn't okay for her to get blasted back on a different platform? Turnabout is fair play and payback is a beach.

I don't care about the politics of it. I care about how the writing of the show is. It is just not the high level quality I expect from the same guy who gave us The West Wing and A Few Good Men. I am trying to explain why it is not. The politics of it is part of it because it seems to me that he is writing to make a point rather than writing to tell a story. I think the show would be much better served by him adjusting away from this kind of crap.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

I cannot reconcile that alongside none of the men on the show making a run at Sloan.

Who's going to, though? Will won't because he's still hung up on Mac.Jim doesn't have the stones. Besides, nothing wrong with Lisa. He should be hitting that with extreme regularity.Don's into Maggie. Slum Dog's got his girl.Charlie? For comedic value maybe.That pretty much leaves Reese. Sloan doesn't seem to have much "human knowledge" but she seems smart enough to figure out staying away from Reese is probably the best way to go.

Sloan & Lisa hooking up is just what this show needs.

 

[packersfan]

I cannot reconcile that alongside none of the men on the show making a run at Sloan.

Who's going to, though? Will won't because he's still hung up on Mac.Jim doesn't have the stones. Besides, nothing wrong with Lisa. He should be hitting that with extreme regularity.Don's into Maggie. Slum Dog's got his girl.Charlie? For comedic value maybe.That pretty much leaves Reese. Sloan doesn't seem to have much "human knowledge" but she seems smart enough to figure out staying away from Reese is probably the best way to go.

Sloan & Lisa hooking up is just what this show needs.

Sloan, Lisa and Tess 3some.Go big or go home, Sorkin.

 

[Apple Jack]

Wow, that was bad.

 

[Raider Nation]

Slumdog Troll ...

Always good to see Adam Arkin.

 

[Drifter]

Olivia Munn walking around pouting was sexy.I am getting a little tired of the "I have a personal friend who is involved smack dab in the center of this major story and can give me the inside scoop" plot device.

Seems pretty realistic to me. I would guess that's how most reporters get there info. Not like they can call the companies main line and ask to speak with the leak.

There's sources loosely connected to the story and then there's ex boyfriends, sisters and close personal friends that are that key figures in the story.

And now we have another major character in the show that went to high school with Casey Anthony! This show is starting to lose me. The whole debate thing was beyond ridiculous and I'm glad the writer character called it out as such so that at least Sorkin is also aware at how ridiculous it was to think that anyone would ever agree to that format.

 

[Apple Jack]

That was the worst thing I've seen Sorkin do. Worse than Isaac and Ismael. Worse than Studio 60 goes to Nevada. If it was anybody else, I'd be done with the show after that. Horrible.

 

[General Malaise]

Last night's episode was weak. I've liked the MacKenzie character quite a bit, but she was awful last night with her cheerleader act to start. Turrible.

 

[General Malaise]

That was the worst thing I've seen Sorkin do. Worse than Isaac and Ismael. Worse than Studio 60 goes to Nevada. If it was anybody else, I'd be done with the show after that. Horrible.

I have no idea what any of this is. But yeah, last night was abysmal.

 

[Raider Nation]

If last week's episode was an hour of "The Newsroom" where Aaron Sorkin largely kept his worst impulses in check, "Mock Debate" was Bad Sorkin on Parade. Way too much time spent on romantic triangles and rhombuses that are grating in the extreme. Way too much of Mac appearing to be a completely insane person in front of the entire staff (even if she was also presented as being right throughout the episode). More of Sorkin not understanding the Internet with the 4Chan subplot (which keeps being justified by characters like Sloan insisting it's a great story, when it was really a Who Cares? until Neal inadvertently stumbled on the death threat guy). More of the characters being wildly naive at best in expecting the RNC to like that debate format.(*) More of Will/the show being condescending towards women by referring to Lisa as a "15-year-old girl," along with the suggestion that it's mortifying that said 15-year-old-girl is braver than a man like Will McAvoy. It was an hour in which I hated pretty much every character (other than perhaps Charlie and Lonny), even ones I have previously liked (like Sloan).

(*) It would have been one thing if the characters from the start treated it like a noble but futile gesture that had a tiny chance of working, but would at least make their point; instead, everyone was stunned that Greg the haircut was offended by it, and they all come across like kids who just got told Santa Claus wasn't real.

Finale's next week — and, for the first time in Sorkin's TV history, his first season finale isn't called "What Kind of a Day Has It Been" — and I sure hope that Good Sorkin is much more on display.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

I'll watch but it better be a good finale or I think I'm done with HBO. That episode was something awful. I like Jeff Daniels, but he can't carry the show by himself. Some amazingly awful actors in this cast.

Other than Curb, HBO is not offering much right now IMO.

ETA: Yeah, the writing hasn't been very good either.

 

[Chadstroma]

And now we have another major character in the show that went to high school with Casey Anthony! This show is starting to lose me. The whole debate thing was beyond ridiculous and I'm glad the writer character called it out as such so that at least Sorkin is also aware at how ridiculous it was to think that anyone would ever agree to that format.

Yea, this whole knowing people close to these stories is just way over done. First, there was two separate sources for the Deepwater Horizon. Then Maggie dated the Arizona Gov handler. Now, Maggie's roomie just happened to go to HS with Casey?! Just one of fairly thin but is forgivable- but now it is getting ridiculous. The debate forum was just silly. That is suppose to be a superior way to have debates? Have someone throw basically every attack add conceivable at the candidates and talk over them if you don't like the answer? Sure, asking a candidate "Elvis or Johnny Cash" is pretty much a waste but that was not much better in a whole different way.

 

[Chadstroma]

I'll watch but it better be a good finale or I think I'm done with HBO. That episode was something awful. I like Jeff Daniels, but he can't carry the show by himself. Some amazingly awful actors in this cast.

Other than Curb, HBO is not offering much right now IMO.

ETA: Yeah, the writing hasn't been very good either.

Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones down?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I'll watch but it better be a good finale or I think I'm done with HBO. That episode was something awful. I like Jeff Daniels, but he can't carry the show by himself. Some amazingly awful actors in this cast.

Other than Curb, HBO is not offering much right now IMO.

ETA: Yeah, the writing hasn't been very good either.

Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones down?

God, I hope not!

 

[dparker713]

I'll watch but it better be a good finale or I think I'm done with HBO. That episode was something awful. I like Jeff Daniels, but he can't carry the show by himself. Some amazingly awful actors in this cast.

Other than Curb, HBO is not offering much right now IMO.

ETA: Yeah, the writing hasn't been very good either.

Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones down?

Boardwalk Empire blows, but Game of Thrones might be worth the subscription alone.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

More than half of the best shows these days are on HBO.

Game of Thrones, Girls, Boardwalk Empire, Treme, Veep, The Newsroom.

AMC is in second place with Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and The Walking Dead.

Whoever is in third place is pretty distant. I'd probably vote for Showtime (Homeland, Weeds), but whoever is in third place is a full tier below the top two.

 

[Shrugs]

More than half of the best shows these days are on HBO.Game of Thrones, Girls, Boardwalk Empire, Treme, Veep, The Newsroom.AMC is in second place with Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and The Walking Dead.Whoever is in third place is pretty distant. I'd probably vote for Showtime (Homeland, Weeds), but whoever is in third place is a full tier below the top two.

FX in third with Justified, Louie, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Wilfred and The League (others might also say Sons of Anarchy, American Horror Story and Archer but I don't watch those shows). Also add Curb Your Enthusiasm to HBO's list! I'd probably put it at the top of HBO's list, at least until Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire get further along in their run. And the guy who said Boardwalk Empire blows obviously should not be discussing television.

 

[toadstool]

More than half of the best shows these days are on HBO.

Game of Thrones, Girls, Boardwalk Empire, Treme, Veep, The Newsroom.

AMC is in second place with Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and The Walking Dead.

Whoever is in third place is pretty distant. I'd probably vote for Showtime (Homeland, Weeds, Dexter), but whoever is in third place is a full tier below the top two.

fixed

 

[Apple Jack]

Treme is probably my favorite show on TV. It and Boardwalk Empire are each starting season three next month. Not the time to be dropping HBO.

How Weeds is still on the air is baffling to me.

Olivia Munn was on Letterman last night. Only saw a minute or so, but suffice it to say, she was hot.

 

[dparker713]

More than half of the best shows these days are on HBO.Game of Thrones, Girls, Boardwalk Empire, Treme, Veep, The Newsroom.AMC is in second place with Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and The Walking Dead.Whoever is in third place is pretty distant. I'd probably vote for Showtime (Homeland, Weeds), but whoever is in third place is a full tier below the top two.

FX in third with Justified, Louie, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Wilfred and The League (others might also say Sons of Anarchy, American Horror Story and Archer but I don't watch those shows). Also add Curb Your Enthusiasm to HBO's list! I'd probably put it at the top of HBO's list, at least until Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire get further along in their run. And the guy who said Boardwalk Empire blows obviously should not be discussing television.

Yeah, who wouldn't love a slow, plodding show filled with zero characters to give a crap about.

 

[Apple Jack]

More than half of the best shows these days are on HBO.Game of Thrones, Girls, Boardwalk Empire, Treme, Veep, The Newsroom.AMC is in second place with Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and The Walking Dead.Whoever is in third place is pretty distant. I'd probably vote for Showtime (Homeland, Weeds), but whoever is in third place is a full tier below the top two.

FX in third with Justified, Louie, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Wilfred and The League (others might also say Sons of Anarchy, American Horror Story and Archer but I don't watch those shows). Also add Curb Your Enthusiasm to HBO's list! I'd probably put it at the top of HBO's list, at least until Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire get further along in their run. And the guy who said Boardwalk Empire blows obviously should not be discussing television.

Yeah, who wouldn't love a slow, plodding show filled with zero characters to give a crap about.

Not sure what you're watching, but if it's Boardwalk Empire, he's right.And I remembered one decent takeaway from this week's Newsroom. The line about Congress being able to hold hearings under threat of perjury for baseball players on steroids, but the thought of holding Presidential candidates accountable for what they say is some kind of "gotcha!" journalism now. That's well-put and if it wasn't so pathetic it would be funny.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

More than half of the best shows these days are on HBO.Game of Thrones, Girls, Boardwalk Empire, Treme, Veep, The Newsroom.AMC is in second place with Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and The Walking Dead.Whoever is in third place is pretty distant. I'd probably vote for Showtime (Homeland, Weeds), but whoever is in third place is a full tier below the top two.

FX in third with Justified, Louie, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Wilfred and The League (others might also say Sons of Anarchy, American Horror Story and Archer but I don't watch those shows).

Good call on FX. Definitely third.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

What's with the ridiculous trolling subplot? Who is Slumdog trying to gain cred with? Is he trying to gain membership in of one of the FFA cliques? Has Aaron Sorkin ever been on the internet before?

 

[Tiger Fan]

What's with the ridiculous trolling subplot? Who is Slumdog trying to gain cred with? Is he trying to gain membership in of one of the FFA cliques? Has Aaron Sorkin ever been on the internet before?

yeah, was the whole point of the last scene with the chat room to say that someone is seriously thinking about killing Will?

 

[Apple Jack]

What's with the ridiculous trolling subplot? Who is Slumdog trying to gain cred with? Is he trying to gain membership in of one of the FFA cliques? Has Aaron Sorkin ever been on the internet before?

yeah, was the whole point of the last scene with the chat room to say that someone is seriously thinking about killing Will?

I think it's to say they may have found the guy responsible for the threat. There's no way for anybody to know if he is seriously thinking about killing Will.Sorkin's take on internet message boards was touched on in the lemonlymon.com bit on West Wing. He had a dustup on some TV website back then. I wouldn't be surprised if there is some hacker whack job forum somewhere.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

I'm not going back through the thread to see if anyone else feels this way..............but I would do dirty disgusting things to Lisa. What exactly is Jim seeing in Maggie instead?

 

[Raider Nation]

I'm not going back through the thread to see if anyone else feels this way.....but I would do dirty disgusting things to Lisa.

What exactly is Jim seeing in Maggie instead?

Nothing, if it weren't a TV show.

 

[Chadstroma]

I'm not going back through the thread to see if anyone else feels this way.....but I would do dirty disgusting things to Lisa.

What exactly is Jim seeing in Maggie instead?

Nothing, if it weren't a TV show.

Yea, Maggie is not attractive and the character is about as annoying as you can possibly get. On the other hand, Lisa is all sorts of sexy and seems like a pretty cool chick.

 

[Ash]

I'm not going back through the thread to see if anyone else feels this way.....but I would do dirty disgusting things to Lisa.

What exactly is Jim seeing in Maggie instead?

Nothing, if it weren't a TV show.

Yea, Maggie is not attractive and the character is about as annoying as you can possibly get. On the other hand, Lisa is all sorts of sexy and seems like a pretty cool chick.

Whoever wrote the "Sally" character in When Harry Met Sally has a lot to answer for. Neurotic and illogical <> quirky and charming.

 

[Shrugs]

There's no way for anybody to know if he is seriously thinking about killing Will.

Yes there is. If he attempts to kill Will. Or if they track him down and find his place is filled with plans on how to kill Will.

 

[Colts Win]

Another great episode. We need a real news show like this.

 

[toshiba]

Another great episode. We need a real news show like this.

 

[Tiger Fan]

the entire sex on the city/bus scene was absolutely awful. Rest of the show was pretty good

 

[Apple Jack]

Comically bad. Sorkin needs to tell HBO thanks for renewing, but I can't do this to my legacy.

Poor Emily Mortimer is being tortured by what she's being given to work with.