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The Patriots the past 10 years. (1 Viewer)

I ran the numbers again on the Pats and Colts. Looking at all regular season games from 2001-2010 for NE and all regular season games from 2002-2010 for IND (the COlts were pretty bad in 2001):The Pats defense allowed 17.95 points allowed and 318.2 yards per game.The Colts defense allowed 19.88 points allowed and 320.8 yards per game.That's a difference of 1.93 ppg and 2.6 yds/gm. I'd be interested to hear how that slight difference somehow made the Patriots defense that much better than the Colts. Both teams overall were consistently good record wise in all those years, so it's not like either team threw in a bunch of clunkers.
Looking back over the last couple years, it looks like 18 ppg allowed generally gets you into the top 4 of this stat, while 20 gets you around 10th. So it looks like the 2 ppg is the difference between a very strong defense (elite might be too strong a word) vs a slightly better than average defense. I mean you're talking top 12.5 percentile, vs top 31.25% percentile. Looking at yardage I don't think is very meaningful, based on way defenses play. Some are successful because they just don't let teams move the ball (Pittsburgh is probably the best example of this), while others take a bend but don't break approach where they tighten up aroung the redzone and hold teams to FG's.
There's gotta be some retorts from Indy fans on this no?What is the defense...on the defense?KY
Seriously dude. If you run the stats, I bet there's probably 12-15 teams that fall in between New England and Indy. A 2 ppg average over 10 years is huge. I would think that New England would fall in the top 5 and Indy would be in the 15-20 range.
 
I ran the numbers again on the Pats and Colts. Looking at all regular season games from 2001-2010 for NE and all regular season games from 2002-2010 for IND (the COlts were pretty bad in 2001):The Pats defense allowed 17.95 points allowed and 318.2 yards per game.The Colts defense allowed 19.88 points allowed and 320.8 yards per game.That's a difference of 1.93 ppg and 2.6 yds/gm. I'd be interested to hear how that slight difference somehow made the Patriots defense that much better than the Colts. Both teams overall were consistently good record wise in all those years, so it's not like either team threw in a bunch of clunkers.
In the Patriot's 4 super bowl years, their defensive PPG were: 6th, 1st, 2nd, and 4th. The other 6 years of the decade their average defensive PPG was: 9.5. There were only 2 years in the last decade that they did not have a top 10 defense, but they seemingly needed a top 5 defense to reach the big game(2001 being the only outlier, but one spot).In the Colts 2 super bowl years, their defensive PPG were: 23rd and 8th. In the other 8 years of the decade, their average defensive PPG was 13.5. So, while Brady's Super Bowl and playoff success seems to be dependent on having a top 5 defense, Peyton won a super bowl with a bottom tier defense and lost one with a top 10 defense. Now, Peyton did miss Super Bowls when the Colts had the 2nd best defense in the league(2005) and the best defense in the league(2007), but Brady also missed two super bowls while having a top 5 defense. They were 2nd in 2006 and 5th last year.So, recapping. In the last decade, the Patriots have had top 10 defenses 8 times. They have had a top 5 defense 5 times.The Colts have had a top 10 defense 5 times. They have had a top 5 defense twice.I think it's fair to say that their defenses were on completely different levels. It's also fair to point out the Patriots success being a direct result of having a great defense. However, if you want to bash Peyton for twice not making the Super Bowl while having a top 5 defense go ahead. I hope that same argument is also levied on Brady in that situation though.I think just looking at the stats of a difference of 2 PPG is a wrong way to go about it.
 
isnt it funny back when brady was winning super bowls a lot of people said he was a very good game manager because despite the rings, he never put up huge regular season numbers like peyton............and then brady proved them wrong, his regular season stats became phenomenal.......and he's never won a super bowl since that happened.

 
isnt it funny back when brady was winning super bowls a lot of people said he was a very good game manager because despite the rings, he never put up huge regular season numbers like peyton............and then brady proved them wrong, his regular season stats became phenomenal.......and he's never won a super bowl since that happened.
Before fantasy football the mark of great players was winning championships. Now winning doesn't matter as long as you put up stats.Manning, Brady and Brees would be happy to have half as many TDs and twice as many INTs if they could still be playing this week.
 

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