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"The Red Wave Thread - A place where Politics Forum conservatives celebrate and anticipate the impending wave!"

:blackdot:  for the "celebration" if in rare chance, it doesn't happen. 

 
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Democrats had a difficult 2021, the kind of year that will likely hurt them in the November midterm elections. 

Empirically speaking, the president’s party almost always loses ground in Congress during midterms. In nearly every such election since the end of World War II, the party in the White House has received a lower share of the popular vote in the House than in the prior election. 

In the 19 midterm elections from 1946 to 2018, that party only improved its share of the House popular vote once—2002—while the president’s party has lost House seats in every midterm since 2006. 

But a new Gallup poll shows that the public standing of President Joe Biden’s party has dropped rapidly over the last year, raising the likelihood that it will face a serious shellacking in November. 

In the first quarter of 2021, about 49% of Americans identified with or leaned toward the Democratic Party, compared with just 40% for the Republican Party, according to Gallup. By the fourth quarter, however, that advantage had been completely lost, with 47% of Americans surveyed identifying with or leaning toward the GOP, and just 42% of Americans identifying as Democrats.

That’s a swing of 14 points in just one year, the largest shift Gallup has seen in its 30 years of polling.

The Republicans’ five-point lead in party preference is also the largest advantage they’ve had over Democrats since 1996 when the GOP took control of the House for the first time in 40 years. 

The change in numbers, Gallup noted, aligned closely with a downward trend in President Biden’s popularity. 

“With control of the House of Representatives and Senate at stake in this year's midterm elections, party preferences will be a key indicator of which party will be better positioned to gain majorities in the next session of Congress,” wrote Jeffrey Jones, senior editor at Gallup. 

In the House, Democrats currently hold a slim 10-seat majority. In the Senate, it's even tighter, with Democrats and Republicans tied at 50 seats each, with Vice President Kamala Harris breaking the tie to give Democrats the majority.

In the year since taking control of the White House, Congress, and Senate, Democrats have been able to achieve some movement on their largest legislative projects: Build Back Better, and a large voting rights bill. But at the same time, COVID-19 is still raging and inflation is at record highs.

Meanwhile, Republicans, who control a majority of state houses, have been able to redraw many Congressional districts in their favor, giving them a leg up in the upcoming elections. It has only added to the feeling of impending doom for Democrats. 

The outlook is so bad that prominent Democrats have taken to the public to express their dismay. "I have zero doubt that unless we significantly improve the lives of the American people this year, Democrats will get wiped out in the 2022 midterm elections," Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, an Independent who aligns with Democrats, said in a recent interview with The Guardian. 

Rep. Tim Ryan, a Democrat from Ohio, told The New York Times that “it seems like the Democrats can’t get out of their own way. The Democrats have got to do a better job of being clear on what they’re trying to do.”

Steadfast supporters of the Democrats are also showing their frustration. Members of some civil rights groups boycotted Bidens’ voting rights speech in Atlanta last week because they were disappointed with his inability to push the issue. Six of Biden’s former public health advisers also aired their criticisms of his handling of the pandemic.

President Biden, meanwhile, took a page out of former president Donald Trump’s poll-denying book on Wednesday during a press conference in the East Room of the White House. 

“How do you plan to win back moderates and independents who cast a ballot for you in 2020, but polls indicate they are unhappy with the way you’re doing your job now?” a reporter asked. 

The president simply answered, “I don’t believe the polls.”
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Republicans May win the House and the Senate

Democrats are the incumbents in four out of the nine competitive races, Republicans are the incumbents in two, and three don’t have incumbents running because they’ve opted to retire. The three retirees are GOP senators: North Carolina’s Richard Burr, Ohio’s Rob Portman and Pennsylvania’s Pat Toomey.

Primary elections will be held this year to determine the parties’ candidates.

Republicans just need a net gain of one seat to take control of the Senate, as they currently hold 50 seats. Democrats’ grip on the 50-50 chamber comes only because Vice President Kamala Harris can cast tie-breaking votes.

“It is a sign of just how dire the situation is for Democrats that their best shot at keeping the Senate and limiting their losses in the House is the propensity of their opponents to nominate candidates who frighten suburbanites more than they do,” said Matthew Continetti, a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative-leaning think tank, in a recent National Review op-ed. 

“Even so, the various weaknesses of the Republican Party may not be enough to save the Democrats.”

Democrats seized control of the Senate just one year ago, as their two candidates in Georgia defeated incumbent Republicans in the state’s runoff elections on Jan. 5, 2021.

Democrats took control of the House in the 2018 midterm elections, and they currently hold 221 seats in that chamber vs. the GOP’s 212.
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It still amazes me that the voters in this country will likely reward the Republicans for their behavior. 

 
Well....Michigan gubbernor Whitmer was struggling early on, but raised a boatload of cash and is going to make the race a stronger one now that we have moved past the days where we couldn't buy seeds at our local grocery store.

Shame too..But might have to go through one more term with her in Michigan lying to us and going against her own executive orders.

 
When both chambers flip, how quickly does the House draw up impeachment charges against Biden and what is the misconduct alleged to have triggered the proceedings?

 
We should like throw a couple of bucks in a hat and guess how many seats in the House and Senate the Republicans pick up.

We know there will be a wave, just don't know if it will be regular surf able wave or a tsunami. 

 
Dickies said:
They are incompetent, but I don’t think they operate in bad faith. 
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I can't agree and I don't like that argument.   There is nothing more false that assuming all republicans operate in bad faith.  It's a horrible generalization that has no place in our country.   

 
supermike80 said:
I can't agree and I don't like that argument.   There is nothing more false that assuming all republicans operate in bad faith.  It's a horrible generalization that has no place in our country.   
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I don’t think they all do, but I do think the party as a whole does. 

 
James Daulton said:
We should like throw a couple of bucks in a hat and guess how many seats in the House and Senate the Republicans pick up.

We know there will be a wave, just don't know if it will be regular surf able wave or a tsunami. 
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A lot can change in a year, but odds are it will be massive.

 
Dickies said:
It still amazes me that the voters in this country will likely reward the Republicans for their behavior. 
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Gee, it's almost like when you only have 2 parties, if the current one in power isn't doing diddly for you, there's only one other place to turn...almost.

 
TripItUp said:
Let's discuss key races, polling, congressional seats etc. etc. here in this great place/thread.

We'll start here.

Democratic Party just lost the most support in history per Gallup Poll
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I'm seriously curious. Why do you continually & repeatedly start threads with the distinct intent of being divisive? It's seems counterintuitive to me in this day and age where we need extremely less of this of this type of rhetoric. 

I'm making no excuses for myself as I don't always post with the intent of being inclusive and in fact a lot of my posts could be seen as being divisive. That is not always intentional. I don't start threads with that being the objective though and I try to keep an open mind most of the time, even as difficult as that can be. We are all humans and we all have our faults. 

 
GoBirds said:
Actually, based on all the other threads dominated by Liberals and conservative hate, you are completely right.  :hifive:

Thanks to @TripItUp for venturing into uncharted waters. 
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Uncharted waters.? 😁 None of the Biden related threads are dominated by liberals if you look at the post count.

 
Ruffrodys05 said:
I'm seriously curious. Why do you continually & repeatedly start threads with the distinct intent of being divisive? It's seems counterintuitive to me in this day and age where we need extremely less of this of this type of rhetoric. 

I'm making no excuses for myself as I don't always post with the intent of being inclusive and in fact a lot of my posts could be seen as being divisive. That is not always intentional. I don't start threads with that being the objective though and I try to keep an open mind most of the time, even as difficult as that can be. We are all humans and we all have our faults. 
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Could've used you from 2016 thru 2020 beating this same drum.  Where were you then?  I've been here since 2019-ish and I don't EVER remember you saying this about any of the thousands of Trump threads.

 
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Ruffrodys05 said:
I'm seriously curious. Why do you continually & repeatedly start threads with the distinct intent of being divisive? It's seems counterintuitive to me in this day and age where we need extremely less of this of this type of rhetoric. 

I'm making no excuses for myself as I don't always post with the intent of being inclusive and in fact a lot of my posts could be seen as being divisive. That is not always intentional. I don't start threads with that being the objective though and I try to keep an open mind most of the time, even as difficult as that can be. We are all humans and we all have our faults. 
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Its ONLY divisive if you come in here and post.  If you don't disagree, and stay out of threads you don't like or don't agree with, or at a minimum not post in those, then it no longer is divisive.  So while you may think you are taking the moral high ground here, you are actually being the divisive one for being here.   If an anti LGBTQ person deliberately attends a LGBTQ rally then starts getting vocal and negative, who would be called divisive in that situation?

 
supermike80 said:
Its ONLY divisive if you come in here and post.  If you don't disagree, and stay out of threads you don't like or don't agree with, or at a minimum not post in those, then it no longer is divisive.  So while you may think you are taking the moral high ground here, you are actually being the divisive one for being here.   If an anti LGBTQ person deliberately attends a LGBTQ rally then starts getting vocal and negative, who would be called divisive in that situation?
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I asked a question of the OP.

I posted no divisive statements.

I acknowledged I've been guilty of those type of posts.

If I'm incorrect in the optics I perceive of the intent of this thread Trip is free to let me know otherwise.

 
Ruffrodys05 said:
I asked a question of the OP.

I posted no divisive statements.

I acknowledged I've been guilty of those type of posts.

If I'm incorrect in the optics I perceive of the intent of this thread Trip is free to let me know otherwise.
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Ok to continue with my analogy.

an anti LGBTQ walks into a LGBTQ rally and asks the LGBTQ speaker  "Why do you continually & repeatedly have rallies with the distinct intent of being divisive"

Who would you think might not belong there?

 
supermike80 said:
Ok to continue with my analogy.

an anti LGBTQ walks into a LGBTQ rally and asks the LGBTQ speaker  "Why do you continually & repeatedly have rallies with the distinct intent of being divisive"

Who would you think might not belong there?
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Curious analogy. Do you think I'm anti-GOP? If so, you'd be incorrect. I'm anti-divisive no matter where it's coming from.

Clarification on my previous post: While Trip is free to correct me if I'm wrong about the intent of this thread, he is also free to not respond to my question if he so chooses. If he does, maybe we'll have a good discussion about it. 

eta: I can't think of one instance where I would consider an LGBTQ rally as being divisive.....as they're usually protesting being excluded.

 
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Ruffrodys05 said:
Curious analogy. Do you think I'm anti-GOP? If so, you'd be incorrect. I'm anti-divisive no matter where it's coming from.

Clarification on my previous post: While Trip is free to correct me if I'm wrong about the intent of this thread, he is also free to not respond to my question if he so chooses. If he does, maybe we'll have a good discussion about it. 

eta: I can't think of one instance where I would consider an LGBTQ rally as being divisive.....as they're usually protesting being excluded.
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yes, but telling non the less

 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
A lot can change in a year, but odds are it will be massive.
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Which to most of is means nothing. The federal government has been mostly unless for years. A Republican congress with a Democrat as president just 2 more years of nothing. Good thing before the next presidential election the Republicans will remind everyone they are just as useless as the Democrats. 

 
Mile High said:
Which to most of is means nothing. The federal government has been mostly unless for years. A Republican congress with a Democrat as president just 2 more years of nothing. Good thing before the next presidential election the Republicans will remind everyone they are just as useless as the Democrats. 
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  • The Federal Government laid the groundwork for the tech behind mRNA vaccines.
  • The Federal Government kept poor and lower middle-class families afloat during the pandemic.
  • The Federal Government's relief money has stimulated the economy and resulted in the fastest employment recovery ever.
  • The Federal Government is investing $1.2 TRILLION into hard infrastructure.
And those are all bipartisan achievements.

Politics sucks most of the time, but Government only sucks some of the time.

 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
  • The Federal Government laid the groundwork for the tech behind mRNA vaccines.
  • The Federal Government kept poor and lower middle-class families afloat during the pandemic.
  • The Federal Government's relief money has stimulated the economy and resulted in the fastest employment recovery ever.
  • The Federal Government is investing $1.2 TRILLION into hard infrastructure.
And those are all bipartisan achievements.

Politics sucks most of the time, but Government only sucks some of the time.
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What does bipartisan mean to you?

Because the Democrats will call it if they only get one Republican to sign on.

Bipartisan to me means close to 40% or more of the other side.

 
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supermike80 said:
I don't agree.   At all.   But I know liberals like you that think that way.  It's bad messaging on the part of republicans for sure.
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We likely won’t see eye to eye on this, but that’s okay

 
If there is a wave the GOP 100% cannot be concerned with "payback"...that is a losing/loser strategy...any talk about impeachment is stupid...it's a waste of time, divisive and quite frankly Biden and Kamala are the best friends they could have electorally so leave them alone...they need to move forward because this maybe the best opportunity they will ever have to change the electoral landscape...keep things simple...focus on crime, the Teacher's Unions having too much control in public schools, CRT, stopping the southern border from being the wild west, the cost of college, inflation and other basic meat and potato issues...politically the Latino vote is up for grabs and if they can continue to make inroads there it could be a big time game-changer...also the "soccer Mom" demographic is very much in play due to issues like CRT and crime because they have the potential to effect their kids and that will not fly with that crowd...with an extremely weak President, an unlikeable VP, and the potential for some legit infighting in the house and the party overall if Pelosi steps down the GOP may never have things line up more in their favor...if they screw this up they have no one to blame but themselves. 

 
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supermike80 said:
Its ONLY divisive if you come in here and post.  If you don't disagree, and stay out of threads you don't like or don't agree with, or at a minimum not post in those, then it no longer is divisive.  So while you may think you are taking the moral high ground here, you are actually being the divisive one for being here.
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You just described an echo chamber. My impression from the last several years around here was that board  Republicans hated those.

 
squistion said:
Did I understand that right? Are you saying the left has no morality?
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Here's what I will say to that - You can't have Biden talk about defending the border in Ukraine but leave the Southern Border as an open swinging gate without massive voter cost. That will have a punishing effect with the Hispanic/Latino legacy vote and the working class minority vote. It also opens up a discussion point in the national daily media cycle about Hunter Biden and his foreign "board seats"

Maintaining civil order and protecting the safety of American citizens has a moral component to it.

Biden is creating self inflicted losses down the ticket. I'm not just talking Congress here. I'm also talking deep into the state legislatures and further down the pipe. This is "brand" poison. A trucker with less than 400 dollars spent unseated an establishment Democrat recently. In cases the GOP can't take those seats, AOC's Progressive candidates will be lurking on the edges to try to primary out establishment Democrats.

You don't claim the election process is rigged when just a year before, you "won" with "81 million votes" and your side "won" the Georgia runoff elections. The difference between Biden and Trump/Clinton/Abrams is the latter three had to eat losses. You don't say the system is rigged right after you've "won"  Who does that? That's idiotic. That's indefensible.

 
The last two red waves resulted in Bush who gave us the Patriot act, a horrendous economic crash and the TSA nightmare. Trump gave us operation warp speed and big Pharma tyranny. I am hoping to survive this current blue wave of utter depravity, censorship, Stalinism and dementia. Maybe I will come up for air long enough to get the red boot stomped on me before I drown.

 
Bill Maher discussing the crime wave and the 14 point swing from Democrat to Republican in 2021.

Do the FBG liberals just not pay attention?  It's rather astounding.

 
JIslander said:
"The Red Wave Thread - A place where Politics Forum conservatives celebrate and anticipate the impending wave!"

:blackdot:  for the "celebration" if in rare chance, it doesn't happen. 
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The fireworks have already been purchased and the speech is written. 

 
TripItUp said:
Bill Maher discussing the crime wave and the 14 point swing from Democrat to Republican in 2021.

Do the FBG liberals just not pay attention?  It's rather astounding.
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18 points

When someone like Nate Silver of 538 produces internal polling for DNC HQ, his numbers will show a 4 point buffer.

That means if Republicans are ahead by 4 points, then they are actually up by 8 points. And if Democrats are up by 4 points, it's a neck and neck race.

Working class minority voters don't typically poll very well. This is what the establishment Democrats won't see coming on top of their other losses. The Progressives have better staffing and I am going to wager that they do and will.

AOC, Tlaib and Pressley all took office by winning primaries against establishment Democrats. The major threat point is not the GOP. It's the Progressives finding a way to take LA and NY by cascading the Hispanic/Latino vote and the working class minority votes. If you take LA and NY, you have effectively taken Hollywood. That forces Jeffrey Katzenberg's liberal money printing machine to switch sides.

The size of The Squad doubled in the 2020 cycle. Michelle Wu who took Boston is a Progressive. John Fetterman may yet pull distance in Pennsylvania. Biden teasing student loan forgiveness was a pretty horrible short sighted move. There was no way he could deliver on that so he takes a loss from the millennial vote. If he did deliver, it would look like a win for AOC more than for his side of the Party.

It's not just a Red Tornado. It's also a Neon Blue storm coming from the other direction.

How do you have nearly all the cards and still screw up this badly.

 
Which is why the R’s can’t get wrapped up in the election voting - that is all the D’s have right now to run on.  

 
TripItUp said:
Bill Maher discussing the crime wave and the 14 point swing from Democrat to Republican in 2021.

Do the FBG liberals just not pay attention?  It's rather astounding.
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what is it you think liberals should do?  it's out of their hands - just like 2018 was

 
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TripItUp said:
Bill Maher discussing the crime wave and the 14 point swing from Democrat to Republican in 2021.

Do the FBG liberals just not pay attention?  It's rather astounding.
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I think they selectively pay attention and surround themselves 90% with only people that think the same so the same convenient excuses get repeated. 
 

You are correct 💯. 

 
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