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The Texas Con Man (1 Viewer)

Will Roger face the Sox in Fenway June 1-3

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He's not getting paid to duck...he's getting paid to pitch in these type of games. He will be there and start one of the games.

 
I'm confused. Why wouldn't the Yankees want to win against a team that they're directly going to be competing against for a playoff spot? Aren't the games against Boston (and to a lesser extent, Detroit) the most important?

 
Guaranteed he does not pitch that series

His first game will be a bit later, when the Yanks get Pitt at home

 
I'm thinking he's being brought in for games like that.

It's not like he hasn't heard everything those fans have to say.

I wonder if Roger has ever asked them "You can say the first R in my name, but why can't you pronounce the last R??"

 
It's cutting it close - Depends on how he's pitching at the time....

If the Yankee staff is pitching well and is set up for the series and Roger isn't ready then NO... It's not about ducking, it's about setting up your lineup and being smart.

If they have Pettite, Wang and Mussina ready to go and pitching well at that point then why rush a guy if he's not ready? just so some bozos on the internet don't say he's ducking? :blackdot:

Heck, I'd be more excited to see Phil Hughes make it back by then.... That's the real story...

 
He's not getting paid to duck...he's getting paid to pitch in these type of games. He will be there and start one of the games.
nopeIf you are confident though I would be more then open to making it a wager...
Why not? Do you think he won't be ready?
The Yankees have a lot invested in Clemens besides money. I know plenty of Yankees fans who were resigned to this being a 'rebuilding' year before the signing, and who have now changed their tune. The Yankees won't risk losing that momentum by setting him up to fail
 
If they purposely keep him out of that series, then he's a big #####. Along with Torre and Big George.
Anyone that thinks Clemens would duck anybody needs to check their sports fan card at the door, because you obviously don't have any sports knowledge.Clemens may come off an a-s-s to some, but no one should ever question his competitiveness. He lives for games like this. It's a major reason why he chose the Yankees over the Astros...he believes he'll be in the post-season playing in very meaningfull games for a championship.He may not pitch in the series because he's not ready yet, but not because he's ducking anyone. The only person ducking will be the first guy that gets a Clemens fastball under the chin.
 
Berserker said:
If they purposely keep him out of that series, then he's a big #####. Along with Torre and Big George.
Anyone that thinks Clemens would duck anybody needs to check their sports fan card at the door, because you obviously don't have any sports knowledge.Clemens may come off an a-s-s to some, but no one should ever question his competitiveness. He lives for games like this. It's a major reason why he chose the Yankees over the Astros...he believes he'll be in the post-season playing in very meaningfull games for a championship.
Then why hasn't he been pitching for the Yankees all along? He's as concerned with his image as any high profile athlete. If he's not ready to pitch at maximum level there's no way he'd face Boston and risk taking a pounding.
 
Berserker said:
If they purposely keep him out of that series, then he's a big #####. Along with Torre and Big George.
Anyone that thinks Clemens would duck anybody needs to check their sports fan card at the door, because you obviously don't have any sports knowledge.Clemens may come off an a-s-s to some, but no one should ever question his competitiveness. He lives for games like this. It's a major reason why he chose the Yankees over the Astros...he believes he'll be in the post-season playing in very meaningfull games for a championship.He may not pitch in the series because he's not ready yet, but not because he's ducking anyone. The only person ducking will be the first guy that gets a Clemens fastball under the chin.
Ah nevermind.
 
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Berserker said:
If they purposely keep him out of that series, then he's a big #####. Along with Torre and Big George.
Anyone that thinks Clemens would duck anybody needs to check their sports fan card at the door, because you obviously don't have any sports knowledge.Clemens may come off an a-s-s to some, but no one should ever question his competitiveness. He lives for games like this. It's a major reason why he chose the Yankees over the Astros...he believes he'll be in the post-season playing in very meaningfull games for a championship.He may not pitch in the series because he's not ready yet, but not because he's ducking anyone. The only person ducking will be the first guy that gets a Clemens fastball under the chin.
Well you can have my sports fan card then. YOU don't know what you are talking about if you are implying that Clemens picked the Yanks because they have the best chance for a WS- that would have been the Red Sox. He picked the Yanks for one reason, and one reason only....MONEY.He got 28 mil vs. 18 mil. End of Story.
 
http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/story....670&k=76141

Torre says he has no problem with it. Everybody knows that Clemens has no problem with it. If he's ready, he'll pitch. I think he's rushing it if he tries to make his debut that soon.
what do you expect them to say? That they are scared of putting him on the mound vs. Boston?He will find an excuse not to pitch that weekend, count on it
as expected, no Clemens vs. Sox...
 
The Red Sox hitters will be overly patient, thus forcing Clemens from the game before the fifth inning ends. The Sox will once again feast on the Yankee bullpen.

 
Wow, wasn't expecting such an overt surrender. I think Torre could have simply said he needed another AAA start or something.

But they are paying the guy some coin here. I would think, based on the investment alone, that Clemens should be facing Boston, Cleveland, Detroit as many times as possible. Leave the Pittsburgh and KC starts to a Yankee rookie.

 
Wow, wasn't expecting such an overt surrender. I think Torre could have simply said he needed another AAA start or something.But they are paying the guy some coin here. I would think, based on the investment alone, that Clemens should be facing Boston, Cleveland, Detroit as many times as possible. Leave the Pittsburgh and KC starts to a Yankee rookie.
You don't pitch the highest paid guys, you pitch whoever gives your team the best chance to win. At this point, Clemens is not that guy, period.
 
Wow, wasn't expecting such an overt surrender. I think Torre could have simply said he needed another AAA start or something.But they are paying the guy some coin here. I would think, based on the investment alone, that Clemens should be facing Boston, Cleveland, Detroit as many times as possible. Leave the Pittsburgh and KC starts to a Yankee rookie.
You don't pitch the highest paid guys, you pitch whoever gives your team the best chance to win. At this point, Clemens is not that guy, period.
I'm sure Steinbrenner concurs.
 
I believe Clemens is scheduled to start the 4th against White Sox. I am hoping for rain and he pitches the 5th when I have tix or maybe even a double dip.

 
Wow, wasn't expecting such an overt surrender. I think Torre could have simply said he needed another AAA start or something.But they are paying the guy some coin here. I would think, based on the investment alone, that Clemens should be facing Boston, Cleveland, Detroit as many times as possible. Leave the Pittsburgh and KC starts to a Yankee rookie.
You don't pitch the highest paid guys, you pitch whoever gives your team the best chance to win. At this point, Clemens is not that guy, period.
He's ready so if he doesn't pitch, they are ducking the Sox.
 
Torre will not change his rotation to get Clemens into the Boston series. It is too insulting to bump Wang, Mussina, or Pettitte for Clemens. If a rookie was pitching like Clippard or DeSalvo he wouldve definately been pitching in that series.

 
shadyridr said:
Torre will not change his rotation to get Clemens into the Boston series. It is too insulting to bump Wang, Mussina, or Pettitte for Clemens. If a rookie was pitching like Clippard or DeSalvo he wouldve definately been pitching in that series.
This is some good B.S right here.Is 28 million dollar Clemens the #4 in the rotation? If he is, I guess that makes sense. But you and I both know that Clemens is not #4 in this rotation nor are they paying him to be #4.Secondly Sunday could just as easily be DeSalvo's turn as Pettite's. They could slot Roger right in there and not disrespect anybody. So don't give me that B.S.Thirdly, Mussina has pretty much been a pile of DogS__T. Yeah, I know he had one good outing this weekend but it would not be too hard to slot Roger in Mussina's place right now. Its not like Mussina has earned his spot this year.So this disrespect thing is the party line, but really its a bunch of BS. They are afraid to let Roger earn his paycheck is more like it.
 
With the Yankees playing Boston and Chicago back to back, they face two teams directly in front of them. Whether it's the division or the WC, both teams are directly in the Yankees way.

So if Clemens were to simply pitch on his regular rest, I believe that puts him on the mound on Saturday against Boston and then in the last game of the Chicago series (4 game series.) No idea why the Yankees wouldn't want to get Clemens in BOTH series. He is ready, time's wasting-why not actually do what they paid $28M to do?

Smells like a duck if he doesn't pitch.

 
With the Yankees playing Boston and Chicago back to back, they face two teams directly in front of them. Whether it's the division or the WC, both teams are directly in the Yankees way.So if Clemens were to simply pitch on his regular rest, I believe that puts him on the mound on Saturday against Boston and then in the last game of the Chicago series (4 game series.) No idea why the Yankees wouldn't want to get Clemens in BOTH series. He is ready, time's wasting-why not actually do what they paid $28M to do?Smells like a duck if he doesn't pitch.
Makes too much sense. I can't believe Shady had the balls to post that disrespect BS. If Clemens is ready and by all accounts by his last AAA start he is, then he pitches. You dont pay a guy that kind of cash to have him miss starts.
 
So Clemens is getting a pro-rated salary of $28 million for what was projected as 22 starts. Now he ducks the Red Sox series and is scratched from the White Sox series for a groin injury. He is questionable for next Saturday. So he is likely down to 20 starts. Where is the guy that told me the Yankees would win 15 of his 22 starts and I said, "Who says he will start 22 games?."

 

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