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So wait a minute...the Yankees have been GREAT this whole time? Why didn't anyone tell me. All I kept hearing was how they were incredibly flawed and a bunch of underachieving money-grubbers.
I have accepted the Yankee greatness for years. I have always respected and feared them. You will never hear this guy saying "Yankees Suck". Almost as pathetic as the Colorado crowd last night yelling "Boston Sucks" at me. I just replied "well guys we're 4 outs from another ring...I dunno
" :angrycrickets:I really hope the Yanks pull things together. I'd hate to see them forging a new rivalry with Baltimore and the Jays.
I wouldn't call the thread official...just yet. But the Yankees rebuilding is full blown official.I'm concerned.
HellToupee said:
As a Californian Yankee fan of 32 years... quit plucking all-stars vs building a formula and paying to keep said formula. Yeah, it worked for Boston this year but it's hit or miss...
There was only a rivalry for a few years. Most of the time, the Red Sox were a bad team that provided zero competition.
How old are you?
Hey Fins, ya gotta admit that this was a funny post.
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If ya don't get it, ya don't get it
I'm closing in on 40....To me, the Sox and Yankee were not so much of a Rivalry for quite a while... In the 1986 World Series I rooted FOR the Red Sox..
I was in a college bar with my hands in the air ready to celebrate when the Buckner play happened with all the Sox fans!!!!!!
Doesn't he have one year left in Atlanta?
Yes, but Atlanta is looking to lock him up and I've read that he's less than cooperative right now.
Well, considering Atlanta gave to get him, NY would have to offer the farm for him this year, which would be silly.
I sure was. I bet you were off dreaming about fake fly fishing trips, etc. If you want, I can recap the pennants for your wonderful Red Sox?Oh I got it. I was just wondering if you were watching baseball in the 80's and early 90's.phthalatemagic said:If ya don't get it, ya don't get itDropKick said:
I guess you were misunderstanding me. The Yankees weren't exactly a powerhouse back then. Fake fly-fishing trips? Yeah, I make up stories about tripsI sure was. I bet you were off dreaming about fake fly fishing trips, etc. If you want, I can recap the pennants for your wonderful Red Sox?Oh I got it. I was just wondering if you were watching baseball in the 80's and early 90's.phthalatemagic said:If ya don't get it, ya don't get itDropKick said:
I believe the point is that until recently BOTH teams weren't really that good at the same time...Like I said, I grew up barely even knowing there was a rivalry - I grew up the biggest Yankee fan around and I ROOTED FOR BOSTON IN 1986!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I heard stories and was a little too young to appreciate even 78' which was still a little one sided from this perspective......A true two way rivaly usually takes two teams that are both good and battle eachother..... That really hasn't happened until recently. And so far with the Yankees winning the division last year and both teams making the playoffs, I'd say the current rivalry is in no immediate danger.Finless said:I guess you were misunderstanding me. The Yankees weren't exactly a powerhouse back then. Fake fly-fishing trips? Yeah, I make up stories about tripsphthalatemagic said:I sure was. I bet you were off dreaming about fake fly fishing trips, etc. If you want, I can recap the pennants for your wonderful Red Sox?Oh I got it. I was just wondering if you were watching baseball in the 80's and early 90's.phthalatemagic said:If ya don't get it, ya don't get itDropKick said:
Maybe in New York the hatred was steered towards the Mets but I always remember the Yankees being the enemy.
Yup - in 1983 I was 15 and Boston wasn't even a blip on the radar - You went to school and battled every day Mets Vs Yankees....I HATED the Mets - Backman, Dykstra, Carter, Mookie...The Biggest Debate was always Mattingly Vs Hernandez....That Mets team was full of Cocky Punks that a lot of teams and fans HATED..... Jose Reyes would have fit in perfectly with that team...Not too many people to hate on those Sox teams - Boggs, Rice and Baylor I believe were universally respected. Clemens I can see but, again, I don't recall both teams being gopod at the same time and personally I marveled at what Clemens was doing and wanted to see him take out Doc and the punks.It's hard to look back and imagine how someone who was born with Yankee Blood rooted for the 1986 RED SOX but, that's how hated the Mets were and again, in New York, it's not like the Red Sox ever got the better end of anything head to head in our lifetimes and it's not like you're going to High school with a lot of cocky Sox fans at the time... The Met fans on the other hand were out of control......Back then Sox fans were humble and likeable - Like "You're a Sox fan???" and they'd be like "Awe Shucks, yeah.... One Day???????"Seeing The Mets with a parade in OUR CITY was something we did not want though.... Luckily I was away at school.... Just like I was luckily out of the country the past week.I'd say there was a bit of a rivalry back themMaybe in New York the hatred was steered towards the Mets but I always remember the Yankees being the enemy.
No. I understood. I told you I was 89. The Yankees won a fair amount in that time and the Red Sox rarely had a competitive team. Again, if you want me to recount the number of pennants won in that time period, I think I can do so, on one hand. There was no rivalry. The hatred was all on the Red Sox side, and that's not surprising. People hate the team on top. People hate the team the keeps winning and winning and winning. That's not to say there was a rivalry though, becuase for there to be a rivalry there must be a mutual hatred. The Red Sox failed to live up to their part of the competition deal.Finless said:I guess you were misunderstanding me. The Yankees weren't exactly a powerhouse back then. Fake fly-fishing trips? Yeah, I make up stories about tripsphthalatemagic said:I sure was. I bet you were off dreaming about fake fly fishing trips, etc. If you want, I can recap the pennants for your wonderful Red Sox?Oh I got it. I was just wondering if you were watching baseball in the 80's and early 90's.phthalatemagic said:If ya don't get it, ya don't get itDropKick said:
Yes, it was one-way. One way hatred is not a rivalry.
Rarely had a competitive team? They won the pennant in 86, and won the division in 88 and 90. I'll concede that to the "average fan" of the time(which was much more 50-50 split thanks to the Mets mid 80's success), the discussed rivalary was Mets Yanks.But if you were actually in the stadium for those Sox games, the fever and hatred never really died down from the late 70's Munson-Fisk led rivalry. I remember a Red Sox effigy being burned in the damn bleachers during a game in 89(it was put out quickly and the people weren't even TOSSED, burnt it later in the parking lot). And please, Boston sucks shirts have always been a hot seller. This rivalry is all about the fans. The players feed on that amped up energy and thats what perpetuates it more than personalities(Munson Fisk certainly drove that 70's fire).No. I understood. I told you I was 89. The Yankees won a fair amount in that time and the Red Sox rarely had a competitive team. Again, if you want me to recount the number of pennants won in that time period, I think I can do so, on one hand. There was no rivalry. The hatred was all on the Red Sox side, and that's not surprising. People hate the team on top. People hate the team the keeps winning and winning and winning. That's not to say there was a rivalry though, becuase for there to be a rivalry there must be a mutual hatred. The Red Sox failed to live up to their part of the competition deal.Finless said:I guess you were misunderstanding me. The Yankees weren't exactly a powerhouse back then. Fake fly-fishing trips? Yeah, I make up stories about tripsphthalatemagic said:I sure was. I bet you were off dreaming about fake fly fishing trips, etc. If you want, I can recap the pennants for your wonderful Red Sox?Oh I got it. I was just wondering if you were watching baseball in the 80's and early 90's.phthalatemagic said:If ya don't get it, ya don't get itDropKick said:
You sir, are an idiot. I said early 80's to early 90's. I see one Pennant and one division win in that time frame...moron. The Red Sox won the division twice and the pennant once in that period. Red Sox 3 Yankees 2. Still didn't answer the question on your age.No. I understood. I told you I was 89. The Yankees won a fair amount in that time and the Red Sox rarely had a competitive team. Again, if you want me to recount the number of pennants won in that time period, I think I can do so, on one hand. There was no rivalry. The hatred was all on the Red Sox side, and that's not surprising. People hate the team on top. People hate the team the keeps winning and winning and winning. That's not to say there was a rivalry though, becuase for there to be a rivalry there must be a mutual hatred. The Red Sox failed to live up to their part of the competition deal.Finless said:I guess you were misunderstanding me. The Yankees weren't exactly a powerhouse back then. Fake fly-fishing trips? Yeah, I make up stories about tripsphthalatemagic said:I sure was. I bet you were off dreaming about fake fly fishing trips, etc. If you want, I can recap the pennants for your wonderful Red Sox?Oh I got it. I was just wondering if you were watching baseball in the 80's and early 90's.phthalatemagic said:If ya don't get it, ya don't get itDropKick said:
1993 AL East 88-74 (.543) 2 1992 AL East 76-86 (.469) 4 1991 AL East 71-91 (.438) 5 1990 AL East 67-95 (.414) 7 1989 AL East 74-87 (.460) 5 1988 AL East 85-76 (.528) 5 1987 AL East 89-73 (.549) 4 1986 AL East 90-72 (.556) 2 1985 AL East 97-64 (.602) 2 1984 AL East 87-75 (.537) 3 1983 AL East 91-71 (.562) 3 1982 AL East 79-83 (.488) 5 1981 AL East 59-48 (.551) AL 1980 AL East 103-59 (.636) DIV 1
This is the best write up in this post
I see you are getting mad. Why else the namecalling? How many pennants? If you need help I'll lend you a hand, although you won't need all of the fingers to count on. You are getting mad because you picked a pigeonhole in time to make your point? I'm 89 buddy. I've seen alot. It is nice for you to quote the 80s of The Mighty Red Sox as your example. An entire FOUR seasons of THIRTEEN that the Mighty Red Sox won over 90 games? That's competitive?
Did I see four consecutive seasons of under .500 ball in there? 
Really, there is no reason to be upset. They are winning now. Let's just not act like that was always a good team, becuase it wasn't. The Red Sox were a bad team for a long time with a few competitive seasons mixed in. Nothing else.Now go back to Tangiers and fish.
Hush! I'm working over here.
As were the Yankees. I didn't pigeonhole anything. In my original post in response to you, I stated 80's to early 90's before any argument from you. Not because the Red Sox were great but because that is the time frame of which I grew up and can actually remember a rivalry. I like to speak from experience. You went on to state how "The Yankees won a fair amount in that time and the Red Sox were rarely competitive". Well, you were wrong. I pointed that out. I never stated they've been a great team for a long time. I was just stating a rivalry existed in the 80's through the early 90's when neither team was dominant. It just so happens in that period the Sox had more success than the Yanks. Not to mention being the current World Series champs and Dynasty. Have fun with this rebuilding phase though.I see you are getting mad. Why else the namecalling? How many pennants? If you need help I'll lend you a hand, although you won't need all of the fingers to count on. You are getting mad because you picked a pigeonhole in time to make your point? I'm 89 buddy. I've seen alot. It is nice for you to quote the 80s of The Mighty Red Sox as your example. An entire FOUR seasons of THIRTEEN that the Mighty Red Sox won over 90 games? That's competitive?
Now go back to Tangiers and fish.
I'll be basking in the glory of the DynastyDynasty? What the hell are you talking about? As it stands now, the RedSox don't have a dynasty. Two World Series championships bookending a loss in a Wild Card series and a season not making the playoffs doesn't make a dynasty. Dynasty......As were the Yankees. I didn't pigeonhole anything. In my original post in response to you, I stated 80's to early 90's before any argument from you. Not because the Red Sox were great but because that is the time frame of which I grew up and can actually remember a rivalry. I like to speak from experience. You went on to state how "The Yankees won a fair amount in that time and the Red Sox were rarely competitive". Well, you were wrong. I pointed that out. I never stated they've been a great team for a long time. I was just stating a rivalry existed in the 80's through the early 90's when neither team was dominant. It just so happens in that period the Sox had more success than the Yanks. Not to mention being the current World Series champs and Dynasty. Have fun with this rebuilding phase though.I see you are getting mad. Why else the namecalling? How many pennants? If you need help I'll lend you a hand, although you won't need all of the fingers to count on. You are getting mad because you picked a pigeonhole in time to make your point? I'm 89 buddy. I've seen alot. It is nice for you to quote the 80s of The Mighty Red Sox as your example. An entire FOUR seasons of THIRTEEN that the Mighty Red Sox won over 90 games? That's competitive?
Now go back to Tangiers and fish.
....What the hell....if you want to call it a Dynasty....then call it a dynasty....... 
What would you call it if they win again next year, to make it 3 world championships in 4 years?Dynasty? What the hell are you talking about? As it stands now, the RedSox don't have a dynasty. Two World Series championships bookending a loss in a Wild Card series and a season not making the playoffs doesn't make a dynasty. Dynasty......As were the Yankees. I didn't pigeonhole anything. In my original post in response to you, I stated 80's to early 90's before any argument from you. Not because the Red Sox were great but because that is the time frame of which I grew up and can actually remember a rivalry. I like to speak from experience. You went on to state how "The Yankees won a fair amount in that time and the Red Sox were rarely competitive". Well, you were wrong. I pointed that out. I never stated they've been a great team for a long time. I was just stating a rivalry existed in the 80's through the early 90's when neither team was dominant. It just so happens in that period the Sox had more success than the Yanks. Not to mention being the current World Series champs and Dynasty. Have fun with this rebuilding phase though.I see you are getting mad. Why else the namecalling? How many pennants? If you need help I'll lend you a hand, although you won't need all of the fingers to count on. You are getting mad because you picked a pigeonhole in time to make your point? I'm 89 buddy. I've seen alot. It is nice for you to quote the 80s of The Mighty Red Sox as your example. An entire FOUR seasons of THIRTEEN that the Mighty Red Sox won over 90 games? That's competitive?
Now go back to Tangiers and fish.
That would be 3 in 5, tiger.Balco said:What would you call it if they win again next year, to make it 3 world championships in 4 years?Darth Cheney said:Dynasty? What the hell are you talking about? As it stands now, the RedSox don't have a dynasty. Two World Series championships bookending a loss in a Wild Card series and a season not making the playoffs doesn't make a dynasty. Dynasty......Finless said:As were the Yankees. I didn't pigeonhole anything. In my original post in response to you, I stated 80's to early 90's before any argument from you. Not because the Red Sox were great but because that is the time frame of which I grew up and can actually remember a rivalry. I like to speak from experience. You went on to state how "The Yankees won a fair amount in that time and the Red Sox were rarely competitive". Well, you were wrong. I pointed that out. I never stated they've been a great team for a long time. I was just stating a rivalry existed in the 80's through the early 90's when neither team was dominant. It just so happens in that period the Sox had more success than the Yanks. Not to mention being the current World Series champs and Dynasty. Have fun with this rebuilding phase though.phthalatemagic said:I see you are getting mad. Why else the namecalling? How many pennants? If you need help I'll lend you a hand, although you won't need all of the fingers to count on. You are getting mad because you picked a pigeonhole in time to make your point? I'm 89 buddy. I've seen alot. It is nice for you to quote the 80s of The Mighty Red Sox as your example. An entire FOUR seasons of THIRTEEN that the Mighty Red Sox won over 90 games? That's competitive?
Now go back to Tangiers and fish.
Brain Fart.That would be 3 in 5, tiger.Balco said:What would you call it if they win again next year, to make it 3 world championships in 4 years?Darth Cheney said:Dynasty? What the hell are you talking about? As it stands now, the RedSox don't have a dynasty. Two World Series championships bookending a loss in a Wild Card series and a season not making the playoffs doesn't make a dynasty. Dynasty......Finless said:As were the Yankees. I didn't pigeonhole anything. In my original post in response to you, I stated 80's to early 90's before any argument from you. Not because the Red Sox were great but because that is the time frame of which I grew up and can actually remember a rivalry. I like to speak from experience. You went on to state how "The Yankees won a fair amount in that time and the Red Sox were rarely competitive". Well, you were wrong. I pointed that out. I never stated they've been a great team for a long time. I was just stating a rivalry existed in the 80's through the early 90's when neither team was dominant. It just so happens in that period the Sox had more success than the Yanks. Not to mention being the current World Series champs and Dynasty. Have fun with this rebuilding phase though.phthalatemagic said:I see you are getting mad. Why else the namecalling? How many pennants? If you need help I'll lend you a hand, although you won't need all of the fingers to count on. You are getting mad because you picked a pigeonhole in time to make your point? I'm 89 buddy. I've seen alot. It is nice for you to quote the 80s of The Mighty Red Sox as your example. An entire FOUR seasons of THIRTEEN that the Mighty Red Sox won over 90 games? That's competitive?
Now go back to Tangiers and fish.I'll be basking in the glory of the Dynasty
Three out of five and two in a row is on the verge.... and probably could be considered one...2003 Wild Card - Lost in ALCSBalco said:What would you call it if they win again next year, to make it 3 world championships in 4 years?Darth Cheney said:Dynasty? What the hell are you talking about? As it stands now, the RedSox don't have a dynasty. Two World Series championships bookending a loss in a Wild Card series and a season not making the playoffs doesn't make a dynasty. Dynasty......Finless said:As were the Yankees. I didn't pigeonhole anything. In my original post in response to you, I stated 80's to early 90's before any argument from you. Not because the Red Sox were great but because that is the time frame of which I grew up and can actually remember a rivalry. I like to speak from experience. You went on to state how "The Yankees won a fair amount in that time and the Red Sox were rarely competitive". Well, you were wrong. I pointed that out. I never stated they've been a great team for a long time. I was just stating a rivalry existed in the 80's through the early 90's when neither team was dominant. It just so happens in that period the Sox had more success than the Yanks. Not to mention being the current World Series champs and Dynasty. Have fun with this rebuilding phase though.phthalatemagic said:I see you are getting mad. Why else the namecalling? How many pennants? If you need help I'll lend you a hand, although you won't need all of the fingers to count on. You are getting mad because you picked a pigeonhole in time to make your point? I'm 89 buddy. I've seen alot. It is nice for you to quote the 80s of The Mighty Red Sox as your example. An entire FOUR seasons of THIRTEEN that the Mighty Red Sox won over 90 games? That's competitive?
Now go back to Tangiers and fish.
Finless said:
Incorrect. I'll help you out:Finless said:
That was your "original post" in response to me. You asked me, becuase you wanted to get a frame of reference. You probably didn't like my answer. Nowhere did you state the 80's to early 90's. Well, you did....after you got my answer that you didn't like.
Incorrect. Link? I never talked about your cherry picked dates of 80s and early 90s. My dates of reference were from 1918 on. Maybe you shouldn't have asked my age.
You should have specified in the beginning and you'd have more time to make up more fly fishing stories.Finless said:
Congrats on the two championship dynasty. Your standards are rightfully low, as are the attractiveness of your city's women.Finless said:
Wow you're witty and you're still wrong. 80-early 90's-your reply was that they weren't competitive. End of story...you're still a jabronski.The Dynasty ReignsFinless said:Incorrect. I'll help you out:Finless said:That was your "original post" in response to me. You asked me, becuase you wanted to get a frame of reference. You probably didn't like my answer. Nowhere did you state the 80's to early 90's. Well, you did....after you got my answer that you didn't like.Incorrect. Link? I never talked about your cherry picked dates of 80s and early 90s. My dates of reference were from 1918 on. Maybe you shouldn't have asked my age.You should have specified in the beginning and you'd have more time to make up more fly fishing stories.Finless said:Congrats on the two championship dynasty. Your standards are rightfully low, as are the attractiveness of your city's women.Finless said:
One more thing I'd like to add. Boston as a whole has created more Dynasties in the new millennium than New York has produced Championships. Don't be upset that I fly fish and bag chicks for a living. I'd cut on you or some of your posts as well but I honestly can't remember any. Thanks for keeping track of mine though. I appreciate itWow you're witty and you're still wrong. 80-early 90's-your reply was that they weren't competitive. End of story...you're still a jabronski.The Dynasty ReignsFinless said:Incorrect. I'll help you out:Finless said:That was your "original post" in response to me. You asked me, becuase you wanted to get a frame of reference. You probably didn't like my answer. Nowhere did you state the 80's to early 90's. Well, you did....after you got my answer that you didn't like.Incorrect. Link? I never talked about your cherry picked dates of 80s and early 90s. My dates of reference were from 1918 on. Maybe you shouldn't have asked my age.You should have specified in the beginning and you'd have more time to make up more fly fishing stories.Finless said:Congrats on the two championship dynasty. Your standards are rightfully low, as are the attractiveness of your city's women.Finless said:
Alright, The Dynasty talk is a bit of a push
:highfive:According to you a single championship is a dynasty. You may not even need a championship to have a dynasty to your standards. Keep making up lies for the folks here on this board. Others will enjoy living in reality.One more thing I'd like to add. Boston as a whole has created more Dynasties in the new millennium than New York has produced Championships. Don't be upset that I fly fish and bag chicks for a living. I'd cut on you or some of your posts as well but I honestly can't remember any. Thanks for keeping track of mine though. I appreciate it
Just read in The Sporting News that although their team finishes last every year, Devil Rays fans have the highest IQ of any baseball fans. So they have that going for them.
The Finless alias is annoying as hell for Red Sox fans and non Red Sox fans alike but your hatred for Red Sox fans knows no boundaries. Is it because they fill the Trop every time the Sox are in town?
Link to reckless Red Sox homerism? Anywhere where I've been unreasonable regarding the Sox?This thread was a bit of a joke. Humur isn't a bad thing Pat, maybe if you had a bit you'd understand.
No, it's because their fans are generally idiot douchebags.
