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Well, I played in a wsop circuit event Friday.   I sit at my table and an Asian woman comes up and looks famillar.  I wasnt sure if it was the woman who sat to my left a month prior in local tourny.   If she smoked menthols, I was banking it was her.  

 
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She looks at me and says I look famillar, I said didnt we play together last month at said tourny, she said yes, ask my name and gave me hers.  For the tourny in Cherokee she is a solid player and above average.   These tournys are such a mix of players.  For example:  blinds 400/800 50 ante.   UTG bets to 5K, short stack pushes 6500 with a8, I wake up with kk in the bb, crazy stuff.   I pushed utg called, wild stuff.     Well, she busts, then rebuys and a few hours laters get seated at my same table again and when the table breaks she was on heater she had aa when big stack had kk.  

 
We went to different table and again she ends up back at mine, short stacked.  I ran my stack up to 160k at this time(look at me).   Well, we finished out the last two hours and bagged.  She bagged under 50k, me a hefty 145k.  So I go online to see this chicks name to check out her poker scores and there are no women on the list under 100k who bagged.  

 
So either the wsop messed up, which is not normal or she bagged and gave her chips to someone else to play.  She is a good player so why give up your play but she might try again tomorrow to do better.  There is 4 starting days.   Tomorrow is the last.  But on the last hand she was going to push but then said better to bag then not.   So she was not intending to surrender to play again in same tourny. 

 
1st will pay 60k plus, dont think what she may have done is cool if she bagged and put another player down as her.   

 
FatUncleJerryBuss said:
So either the wsop messed up, which is not normal or she bagged and gave her chips to someone else to play.  She is a good player so why give up your play but she might try again tomorrow to do better.  There is 4 starting days.   Tomorrow is the last.  But on the last hand she was going to push but then said better to bag then not.   So she was not intending to surrender to play again in same tourny. 
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Maybe she racks disciprine.

 
Does the tournament allow surrender since there are multiple starting days? I've seen some where you can surrender your stack and enter again if you're short and figure you have a better chance on starting over. 

 
FatUncleJerryBuss said:
So either the wsop messed up, which is not normal or she bagged and gave her chips to someone else to play.  She is a good player so why give up your play but she might try again tomorrow to do better.  There is 4 starting days.   Tomorrow is the last.  But on the last hand she was going to push but then said better to bag then not.   So she was not intending to surrender to play again in same tourny. 
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Or

She was a He. 

 
Quick question:  what does it mean to "bag."  I'm assuming that means you stop for the day and tally your chips so far, and then you later have another stage of the tournament where you start with the amount of chips you "bagged"?

If so, who really cares if she starts a tourney and someone else finishes it?  It may be against the rules, but it seems like a silly rule.  But I could be missing something. 

 
Sweet J said:
Quick question:  what does it mean to "bag."  I'm assuming that means you stop for the day and tally your chips so far, and then you later have another stage of the tournament where you start with the amount of chips you "bagged"?

If so, who really cares if she starts a tourney and someone else finishes it?  It may be against the rules, but it seems like a silly rule.  But I could be missing something. 
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you put you chips is a bag at the end of the night and seal it up.  Then fill out a triplicate form with name and chip count. You get one of the copies, house gets a copy, and one remains in the bag.  Usually take marker and put name and count on outside of bag also.  And someone always ####s it up.

 
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Sweet J said:
Quick question:  what does it mean to "bag."  I'm assuming that means you stop for the day and tally your chips so far, and then you later have another stage of the tournament where you start with the amount of chips you "bagged"?

If so, who really cares if she starts a tourney and someone else finishes it?  It may be against the rules, but it seems like a silly rule.  But I could be missing something. 
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It's like changing golfers in between rounds but keeping the same score.   Whether it matters or not in poker is sort of the question.

 
Sweet J said:
Quick question:  what does it mean to "bag."  I'm assuming that means you stop for the day and tally your chips so far, and then you later have another stage of the tournament where you start with the amount of chips you "bagged"?

If so, who really cares if she starts a tourney and someone else finishes it?  It may be against the rules, but it seems like a silly rule.  But I could be missing something. 
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Say Ivey, pays 10 people to enter a flight of the main event and after day one the person with the highest chip count give that stack to him for day 2.   Is that legit?

 
FatUncleJerryBuss said:
Say Ivey, pays 10 people to enter a flight of the main event and after day one the person with the highest chip count give that stack to him for day 2.   Is that legit?
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I' willing to wager you were drunk and are missing something easy here and none of this is happening.   Everyone has player cards and stuff.

 
Getzlaf15 said:
I' willing to wager you were drunk and are missing something easy here and none of this is happening.   Everyone has player cards and stuff.
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Lol, they don't check cards when you bag.  I heard Koon does this with his cronies.

 
FatUncleJerryBuss said:
Say Ivey, pays 10 people to enter a flight of the main event and after day one the person with the highest chip count give that stack to him for day 2.   Is that legit?
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No

 
Let's here more about the Asianed chick named A-nus  - I bet she does very naughty things.

:popcorn:  

 
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Sweet J said:
Quick question:  what does it mean to "bag."  I'm assuming that means you stop for the day and tally your chips so far, and then you later have another stage of the tournament where you start with the amount of chips you "bagged"?

If so, who really cares if she starts a tourney and someone else finishes it?  It may be against the rules, but it seems like a silly rule.  But I could be missing something. 
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1) tournaments have rules regarding rebuys. you might be allowed to buy back multiple times in the same day, or once a day, but several entries the same day is never legal

2) people get tired playing long sessions. you are basically skipping the first half of a marathon

3) you can play more aggressively if you know youre just one of several entries, bevause youre not afraid of busting out while trying to double up which gives you an advantage over everyone playing "normally"

4) your opponents learn about you while you learn about them but then you give your notes about them to another player they havent seen

5) if you have to lie to do it, it's probably wrong

 
bostonfred said:
1) tournaments have rules regarding rebuys. you might be allowed to buy back multiple times in the same day, or once a day, but several entries the same day is never legal

2) people get tired playing long sessions. you are basically skipping the first half of a marathon

3) you can play more aggressively if you know youre just one of several entries, bevause youre not afraid of busting out while trying to double up which gives you an advantage over everyone playing "normally"

4) your opponents learn about you while you learn about them but then you give your notes about them to another player they havent seen

5) if you have to lie to do it, it's probably wrong
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ahhh.  Totally see this. 

 
FatUncleJerryBuss said:
Lol, they don't check cards when you bag.  I heard Koon does this with his cronies.
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What we see here is people pulling chips at breaks from smaller tournies and then getting those chips in play for larger tournies. 

In other words, people join $60 tourney bag 50k pocket 50k of their stack then join a $500 tournament at same place and gradually pull from their pocket. 

I have never seen someone not bag at all though and just leave with it. Besides that, this is a large buyin tourney so probably a different angle here. 

 
Dentist said:
I came in here for a bad beat story or some general complaining.  Wtf is this story
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Here you go.  Playing in a cash game tonight.  Old guy to my left in 8 seat and guy in 4 seat are heads up after the flop.  Turn brings a 3rd spade, no pair on board.  4 seat goes all in, 8 seat snap calls and throws his cards down on the felt.  Problem is 1 card bounces off the table on the ground.  Floor is called.  Ruling is once a card hits the floor that hand is dead.  8 seat goes nuts as he had nut flush and 4 seat rakes in $400 pot.

 
Don't Noonan said:
Here you go.  Playing in a cash game tonight.  Old guy to my left in 8 seat and guy in 4 seat are heads up after the flop.  Turn brings a 3rd spade, no pair on board.  4 seat goes all in, 8 seat snap calls and throws his cards down on the felt.  Problem is 1 card bounces off the table on the ground.  Floor is called.  Ruling is once a card hits the floor that hand is dead.  8 seat goes nuts as he had nut flush and 4 seat rakes in $400 pot.
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That's a completely new level of bad beat!  A bad bounce beat!   I love it.  Truly hilarious.

As an aside that's a terrible ruling...  completely ignores the spirit of the game on every level.

 
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