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This is some really bad football (1 Viewer)

I enjoy identifying hidden or under valued talent, drafting it, and winning with it. Not playing mediocre talent I grab off the WW that is only playing because the superior talent has a season ending injury. I'm sure it's fun for owners to crush the WW and I personally don't want to see that aspect taken away completely but when your team looks absolutely nothing like it did when you drafted it almost every year it's pretty lame.

 
I enjoy identifying hidden or under valued talent, drafting it, and winning with it. Not playing mediocre talent I grab off the WW that is only playing because the superior talent has a season ending injury. I'm sure it's fun for owners to crush the WW and I personally don't want to see that aspect taken away completely but when your team looks absolutely nothing like it did when you drafted it almost every year it's pretty lame.
Play fantasy basketball then?? :X

 
To those complaining about the officiating, I suggest working some pop warner games next year. It's a lot harder than it looks.

Regarding the rule changes, you guys realize that the NFL will probably end up paying billions of dollars to former players due to concussions and how they were treated, right?

The NFL had to evolve or else they wouldn't be profitable in the long run.

There are a lot of mediocre teams this year though. I blame that on owners that think they know football and just run their teams into the ground instead of hiring someone else to do it while they swim in their money like Scrooge McDuck.

 
To those complaining about those of us complaining about the officiating, the officiating is terrible, but we are not necessarily blaming the refs for that.

 
ghostguy123 said:
To those complaining about those of us complaining about the officiating, the officiating is terrible, but we are not necessarily blaming the refs for that.
I am. They're awful.

 
ghostguy123 said:
To those complaining about those of us complaining about the officiating, the officiating is terrible, but we are not necessarily blaming the refs for that.
To those complaining about those who are complaining about those of you who are complaining about the officiating, I say, stop complaining.
Why? It is incredibly valid as to why games don't flow smooth.

To those complaining about others complaining, dont read a thread about complaining.

 
Now that all the teams have played 10 games each there has been a total of 2290 penalties accepted.

That is 229 penalties per week so on pace for 3664 total penalties by the end of the season.

2014 there were 3526 penalties.

2013 there were 3245 penalties.

2012 there were 3319 penalties.

2011 there were 3374 penalties.

2010 there were 3217 penalties.

2009 there were 3167 penalties.

Penalties mean commercial breaks. I think refs are encouraged to call more penalties for that purpose. Penalties certainly seem to be going up.

 
ghostguy have you ever watched a football game?

"American football (NFL): The National Football League requires twenty commercial breaks per game, with ten in each half. (Exceptions to this are overtime periods, which have none.) These breaks run either a minute, or two minutes in length. Of the ten commercial breaks per half, two are mandatory: at the end of each quarter, and at the two-minute warning for the end of the half. The remaining eight breaks are optional.[1] The timeouts can be applied after field goal tries, conversion attempts for both one and two points following touchdowns, changes in possession either by punts or turnovers, and kickoffs (except for the ones that start each half, or are within the last five minutes). The breaks are also called during stoppages due to injury, instant replay challenges, when either of the participating teams uses one of its set of timeouts, and if the network needs to catch up on its commercial advertisement schedule. " Link

 
ghostguy have you ever watched a football game?

"American football (NFL): The National Football League requires twenty commercial breaks per game, with ten in each half. (Exceptions to this are overtime periods, which have none.) These breaks run either a minute, or two minutes in length. Of the ten commercial breaks per half, two are mandatory: at the end of each quarter, and at the two-minute warning for the end of the half. The remaining eight breaks are optional.[1] The timeouts can be applied after field goal tries, conversion attempts for both one and two points following touchdowns, changes in possession either by punts or turnovers, and kickoffs (except for the ones that start each half, or are within the last five minutes). The breaks are also called during stoppages due to injury, instant replay challenges, when either of the participating teams uses one of its set of timeouts, and if the network needs to catch up on its commercial advertisement schedule. " Link
Ok, so.............when is there a commercial break for a penalty?

I am serious. Rather than a "have you ever watched football" response, please let me know when a penalty has caused a commercial break.

I am sure it has happened for some weird reason in the past, but I can not recall one. And yes, I do watch games now and again.

 
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ghostguy123 said:
To those complaining about those of us complaining about the officiating, the officiating is terrible, but we are not necessarily blaming the refs for that.
I am. They're awful.
Why just because they don't know that going out of bounds without being touched is supposed to stop the clock? They're only human man. I mean, how could they possibly comprehend something that complex?

 
Can anyone find out how long the games are taking this year? Seems like they are taking longer, especially the primetime games. Seems like every primetime game is at least 3.5 hours this year.

 
King just had a blurb in his MMQB column about how during the first 62 minutes of the Thursday night broadcast there were 37 commercials.

 
That game on MNF took foreeeeevvvvvvvveeeeeerrrrrrr
I can understand when games take awhile because there is a bunch of scoring. But when the final is 20-13, it doesn't need to be a 3.5 hour game. Too many penalties and commercials.
Last night's debacle of officiating slowed that 3rd quarter down to the longest I remember this season. That was brutal.

I also understand the concept of "when in doubt, call it in a way where it can be reviewed to check", like when Shady had the TD. Easier to call a TD so it would be looked at, but that play last night was the exact illustration of what some guys were talking about yesterday in this thread. Shady makes a great effort run, scores a TD. Me & who knows how many people are Shady owners (or Bills fans) and want to jump up and applaud the great effort...but we can't. I timed it and I literally waited 7 minutes before I could "celebrate" the play. C'mon , man! That is the epitome of what type of buzzkill is in the NFL now. You have to be a magician to hold the suspense that long in today's society. There are probably people who have sex or win money at a casino that have moved on from their "high" 7 minutes after the fact.

One of the primary drivers in sports is that it captures unbridled emotion quickly...and can change so suddenly. When you legislate that out of the game, the viewer really doesn't need it anymore. When we, the FF community, begin to realize in force that we can skip these games all together and check a league score on Tuesday morning and nothing we do or don't do (as we wait...and wait...and wait) changes what will be or won't be, then we will realize viewing the game means less and less because the NFL has effectively removed that "instant rush of adrenaline" from the equation.

 
That game on MNF took foreeeeevvvvvvvveeeeeerrrrrrr
I can understand when games take awhile because there is a bunch of scoring. But when the final is 20-13, it doesn't need to be a 3.5 hour game. Too many penalties and commercials.
Last night's debacle of officiating slowed that 3rd quarter down to the longest I remember this season. That was brutal.I also understand the concept of "when in doubt, call it in a way where it can be reviewed to check", like when Shady had the TD. Easier to call a TD so it would be looked at, but that play last night was the exact illustration of what some guys were talking about yesterday in this thread. Shady makes a great effort run, scores a TD. Me & who knows how many people are Shady owners (or Bills fans) and want to jump up and applaud the great effort...but we can't. I timed it and I literally waited 7 minutes before I could "celebrate" the play. C'mon , man! That is the epitome of what type of buzzkill is in the NFL now. You have to be a magician to hold the suspense that long in today's society. There are probably people who have sex or win money at a casino that have moved on from their "high" 7 minutes after the fact.

One of the primary drivers in sports is that it captures unbridled emotion quickly...and can change so suddenly. When you legislate that out of the game, the viewer really doesn't need it anymore. When we, the FF community, begin to realize in force that we can skip these games all together and check a league score on Tuesday morning and nothing we do or don't do (as we wait...and wait...and wait) changes what will be or won't be, then we will realize viewing the game means less and less because the NFL has effectively removed that "instant rush of adrenaline" from the equation.
When I was rooting for my team, that adrenaline rush from a big play was fun.

As a fantasy owner, I find adrenaline is replaced by suspense...yes, it might be a td...maybe not...was he down? Horror movies do good business, so suspense sells too...it is just a very different type of thrill.

 
Regarding the rule changes, you guys realize that the NFL will probably end up paying billions of dollars to former players due to concussions and how they were treated, right?

The NFL had to evolve or else they wouldn't be profitable in the long run.
As they should because they intentionally hid medical information from players. But now that the info is all out there, I don't buy it. The risk is inherant to the game.

 
To those complaining about the officiating, I suggest working some pop warner games next year. It's a lot harder than it looks.

Regarding the rule changes, you guys realize that the NFL will probably end up paying billions of dollars to former players due to concussions and how they were treated, right?

The NFL had to evolve or else they wouldn't be profitable in the long run.

There are a lot of mediocre teams this year though. I blame that on owners that think they know football and just run their teams into the ground instead of hiring someone else to do it while they swim in their money like Scrooge McDuck.
Yep. There are plenty of owners who are bad at hiring bad GMs. Those bad GMs hire bad HC's and it trickles down. Recycling losers like Rob Ryan is not helping the game. Well, actually he does help because his D's are so awful, big points are scored at will against them and that is entertaining. Maybe that clown was not the best example.

 
To those complaining about the officiating, I suggest working some pop warner games next year. It's a lot harder than it looks.

Regarding the rule changes, you guys realize that the NFL will probably end up paying billions of dollars to former players due to concussions and how they were treated, right?

The NFL had to evolve or else they wouldn't be profitable in the long run.

There are a lot of mediocre teams this year though. I blame that on owners that think they know football and just run their teams into the ground instead of hiring someone else to do it while they swim in their money like Scrooge McDuck.
They have already settled the concussion case. It's a known issue now so I dont see how the NFL would have to pay out again.

 

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