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weasel3515

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Unless you were from Massachusetts, you were probably cheering against the Patriots. With good reason. They were undefeated in an age of supposed parity. Why? They paid players well below their market values (see Seau, Bruschi, Vrabel, Moss, Stallworth, etc.). They were known cheaters (see Spygate). They had several players of low character (see Tom Brady's shuffling of supermodels, Rodney Harrison as the league's dirtiest player, and Randy Moss of course).

Well, tonight it all caught up with them and balance has been set in the universe (at least for pro football). You can be a great talent without character (Moss) and cheat all you want (Bill Belicheat). But in the end it won't always win you the victory. Sometimes you have to pay the piper.

Way to go Giants!! (And I'm a Colts fan!).

 
weasel3515 said:
Unless you were from Massachusetts, you were probably cheering against the Patriots. With good reason. They were undefeated in an age of supposed parity. Why? They paid players well below their market values (see Seau, Bruschi, Vrabel, Moss, Stallworth, etc.). They were known cheaters (see Spygate). They had several players of low character (see Tom Brady's shuffling of supermodels, Rodney Harrison as the league's dirtiest player, and Randy Moss of course).Well, tonight it all caught up with them and balance has been set in the universe (at least for pro football). You can be a great talent without character (Moss) and cheat all you want (Bill Belicheat). But in the end it won't always win you the victory. Sometimes you have to pay the piper. Way to go Giants!! (And I'm a Colts fan!).
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An interesting point is the "supposed parity" -- I don't agree with the conventional wisdom. Specifically, I believe parity is less than it was before the realignment to 8 divisions in 2002 or so. Until then, there was a big impact on teams with a fifth place schedule, but now 14 games are the same for each team in the division.Moving to the "big picture" -- parity is considered to be a byproduct of draft order, free agency and the salary cap. I believe that an argument can be made that free agency and a salary cap present the opportunity for teams to overcome low draft picks assigned due to having very good records. In other words, if free agency can be mastered (a huge if, I'll admit), then it's actually easier to sustain a team than when the draft was the predominant (and mostly only) way teams acquired talent.Bottom line is that with regular season records of 14-2 (after a 13-0 start), two teams going 15-1, and one 16-0 in recent years, the proof may very well simply be in the pudding. Few five-year stretches compare to recent regular season records. More importantly, the Patriots, Colts, Seahawks and Steelers have more or less owned their divisions for long stretches. That doesn't sound like an era of great parity.Personally, I think parity is overrated when it comes to championships. The 1970s and 1980s NFL may have been more challenging at the top because there were many good teams and also many bad teams. Sure, parity improves the weak teams, but it can just as easily dilute the best teams.Bottom line: winning multiple championships in any decade is a great accomplishment. I'm not sure it can be said to be easier or harder now than before, despite what the media would have you believe.
 
weasel3515 said:
Unless you were from Massachusetts, you were probably cheering against the Patriots. With good reason. They were undefeated in an age of supposed parity. Why? They paid players well below their market values (see Seau, Bruschi, Vrabel, Moss, Stallworth, etc.). They were known cheaters (see Spygate). They had several players of low character (see Tom Brady's shuffling of supermodels, Rodney Harrison as the league's dirtiest player, and Randy Moss of course).

Well, tonight it all caught up with them and balance has been set in the universe (at least for pro football). You can be a great talent without character (Moss) and cheat all you want (Bill Belicheat). But in the end it won't always win you the victory. Sometimes you have to pay the piper.

Way to go Giants!! (And I'm a Colts fan!).
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Seriously?
 
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This is really a triumph of good over evil.

It is a victory for all that is good and decent in this great land of ours.

The Giants did just win yesterday, AMERICA won!

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

 
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weasel3515 said:
Unless you were from Massachusetts, you were probably cheering against the Patriots. With good reason. They were undefeated in an age of supposed parity. Why? They paid players well below their market values (see Seau, Bruschi, Vrabel, Moss, Stallworth, etc.). They were known cheaters (see Spygate). They had several players of low character (see Tom Brady's shuffling of supermodels, Rodney Harrison as the league's dirtiest player, and Randy Moss of course).Well, tonight it all caught up with them and balance has been set in the universe (at least for pro football). You can be a great talent without character (Moss) and cheat all you want (Bill Belicheat). But in the end it won't always win you the victory. Sometimes you have to pay the piper. Way to go Giants!! (And I'm a Colts fan!).
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An interesting point is the "supposed parity" -- I don't agree with the conventional wisdom. Specifically, I believe parity is less than it was before the realignment to 8 divisions in 2002 or so. Until then, there was a big impact on teams with a fifth place schedule, but now 14 games are the same for each team in the division.Moving to the "big picture" -- parity is considered to be a byproduct of draft order, free agency and the salary cap. I believe that an argument can be made that free agency and a salary cap present the opportunity for teams to overcome low draft picks assigned due to having very good records. In other words, if free agency can be mastered (a huge if, I'll admit), then it's actually easier to sustain a team than when the draft was the predominant (and mostly only) way teams acquired talent.Bottom line is that with regular season records of 14-2 (after a 13-0 start), two teams going 15-1, and one 16-0 in recent years, the proof may very well simply be in the pudding. Few five-year stretches compare to recent regular season records. More importantly, the Patriots, Colts, Seahawks and Steelers have more or less owned their divisions for long stretches. That doesn't sound like an era of great parity.Personally, I think parity is overrated when it comes to championships. The 1970s and 1980s NFL may have been more challenging at the top because there were many good teams and also many bad teams. Sure, parity improves the weak teams, but it can just as easily dilute the best teams.Bottom line: winning multiple championships in any decade is a great accomplishment. I'm not sure it can be said to be easier or harder now than before, despite what the media would have you believe.
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:goodposting: when a bad team must pay out more money to a rookie than a great proven free agent then something is wrong
 
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