Tiebreakers for Playoff Seeds (1 Viewer)

[Rounders]

We have 2 divisions and play a 13 game season with 8 divisional games and 5 non-divisional games. So essentially we play everyone in our division twice and everyone else in the league once. Here's the tiebreakers we use in our 10 team re-draft league:

Section 9.03 Playoff Seeds

1. Division Record

2. Head to Head Record

3. Total Starting Points

4. Division Record

5. Head to Head Points

6. Head to Head Non-Starting Points

7. Coin Flip

***If a tie exists between 3 or more teams, then the division records and head-to-head records will be combined

Some of the owners are complaining that the head to head record should be first not the division record. The reason the division record is #1 is because there's more games to break a tie.

Nothing is going to change in our league, but I'm trying to get an idea about what other leagues use, what you think is correct, etc.

 

[andy_b]

We have 2 divisions and play a 13 game season with 8 divisional games and 5 non-divisional games. So essentially we play everyone in our division twice and everyone else in the league once. Here's the tiebreakers we use in our 10 team re-draft league:Section 9.03 Playoff Seeds 1. Division Record 2. Head to Head Record 3. Total Starting Points 4. Division Record 5. Head to Head Points 6. Head to Head Non-Starting Points 7. Coin Flip ***If a tie exists between 3 or more teams, then the division records and head-to-head records will be combined Some of the owners are complaining that the head to head record should be first not the division record. The reason the division record is #1 is because there's more games to break a tie. Nothing is going to change in our league, but I'm trying to get an idea about what other leagues use, what you think is correct, etc.

Since I feel its darn near impossible(outside of a very rare WW block) to play defense in FFL, I always think total points should be the first tie breaker. You should reward a player who has put up points through out the year and not reward someone just because they had a favorable match up and their opponent forget to fix a bye week player.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

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[TommyGilmore]

Section 9.03 Playoff Seeds

1. Division Record

2. Head to Head Record

3. Total Starting Points

4. Division Record

5. Head to Head Points

6. Head to Head Non-Starting Points

7. Coin Flip

You should never, ever, EVER use Division Record as a tiebreaker -- unless the teams are in the same division. Why penalize a team for having to play in a tougher division?

 

[videoguy505]

We send 3 teams from each division to the playoffs. Tiebreakers are: Head-to-Head, Division Record, Most Points for, Most Points Against, coin flip.

 

[MrJimiT]

We have 2 divisions and play a 13 game season with 8 divisional games and 5 non-divisional games. So essentially we play everyone in our division twice and everyone else in the league once. Here's the tiebreakers we use in our 10 team re-draft league:Section 9.03 Playoff Seeds 1. Division Record 2. Head to Head Record 3. Total Starting Points 4. Division Record 5. Head to Head Points 6. Head to Head Non-Starting Points 7. Coin Flip ***If a tie exists between 3 or more teams, then the division records and head-to-head records will be combined Some of the owners are complaining that the head to head record should be first not the division record. The reason the division record is #1 is because there's more games to break a tie. Nothing is going to change in our league, but I'm trying to get an idea about what other leagues use, what you think is correct, etc.

If the tie-breaker is to break a tie within the division (in other words all division teams played a common schedule) then I believe head to head should be the first level of tiebreaking. Then if the two division teams tied split with each other, then I would go to division record, then total points scored, etc. However, if 3 or more teams are tied, then I feel that the first tie breaker should be most points scored.After typing that I realized you asked for how other leagues do it and not necessarily my opinion:To Break a Tie Within Division (2 teams):1. Head to Head record2. Division record3. Points ScoredIt goes a few steps further but in 11 years has never come to it.

 

[SayWhat?]

We have 2 divisions and play a 13 game season with 8 divisional games and 5 non-divisional games. So essentially we play everyone in our division twice and everyone else in the league once. Here's the tiebreakers we use in our 10 team re-draft league:Section 9.03 Playoff Seeds 1. Division Record 2. Head to Head Record 3. Total Starting Points 4. Division Record 5. Head to Head Points 6. Head to Head Non-Starting Points 7. Coin Flip ***If a tie exists between 3 or more teams, then the division records and head-to-head records will be combined Some of the owners are complaining that the head to head record should be first not the division record. The reason the division record is #1 is because there's more games to break a tie. Nothing is going to change in our league, but I'm trying to get an idea about what other leagues use, what you think is correct, etc.

Since I feel its darn near impossible(outside of a very rare WW block) to play defense in FFL, I always think total points should be the first tie breaker. You should reward a player who has put up points through out the year and not reward someone just because they had a favorable match up and their opponent forget to fix a bye week player.

H2H and Divisional records are a terrible way to break ties IMO. Total points scored rewards the owner who fielded the best team throughout the course of your regular season.

 

[ChromeWeasel]

We have 2 divisions and play a 13 game season with 8 divisional games and 5 non-divisional games. So essentially we play everyone in our division twice and everyone else in the league once. Here's the tiebreakers we use in our 10 team re-draft league:

Section 9.03 Playoff Seeds

1. Division Record

2. Head to Head Record

3. Total Starting Points

4. Division Record

5. Head to Head Points

6. Head to Head Non-Starting Points

7. Coin Flip

***If a tie exists between 3 or more teams, then the division records and head-to-head records will be combined

Some of the owners are complaining that the head to head record should be first not the division record. The reason the division record is #1 is because there's more games to break a tie.

Nothing is going to change in our league, but I'm trying to get an idea about what other leagues use, what you think is correct, etc.

Anything other than POINTS FOR is stupid. There's enough luck in FF already. Give the guy who fielded the better team the break.The second tiebreaker should be MOST POINTS AGAINST if necessary. For the same reason as above.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Question: Say head-to-head is the first tie-breaker. In a three-way tie, what if all three teams didn't play each other?

 

[TommyGilmore]

Question: Say head-to-head is the first tie-breaker. In a three-way tie, what if all three teams didn't play each other?

Then you should throw out H2H and go to Total Points.H2H should only be used when 2 teams played each other. Even then it's not an accurate representation of the best team, but it's more fun for bragging rights among friends.

 

[bryhamm]

We have 2 divisions and play a 13 game season with 8 divisional games and 5 non-divisional games. So essentially we play everyone in our division twice and everyone else in the league once. Here's the tiebreakers we use in our 10 team re-draft league:Section 9.03 Playoff Seeds 1. Division Record 2. Head to Head Record 3. Total Starting Points 4. Division Record 5. Head to Head Points 6. Head to Head Non-Starting Points 7. Coin Flip ***If a tie exists between 3 or more teams, then the division records and head-to-head records will be combined Some of the owners are complaining that the head to head record should be first not the division record. The reason the division record is #1 is because there's more games to break a tie. Nothing is going to change in our league, but I'm trying to get an idea about what other leagues use, what you think is correct, etc.

Since I feel its darn near impossible(outside of a very rare WW block) to play defense in FFL, I always think total points should be the first tie breaker. You should reward a player who has put up points through out the year and not reward someone just because they had a favorable match up and their opponent forget to fix a bye week player.

Although I agree, our league uses H2H as the first tiebreaker.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Question: Say head-to-head is the first tie-breaker. In a three-way tie, what if all three teams didn't play each other?

Then you should throw out H2H and go to Total Points.H2H should only be used when 2 teams played each other. Even then it's not an accurate representation of the best team, but it's more fun for bragging rights among friends.

This sounds highly logical to me.

 

[videoguy505]

We have 2 divisions and play a 13 game season with 8 divisional games and 5 non-divisional games. So essentially we play everyone in our division twice and everyone else in the league once. Here's the tiebreakers we use in our 10 team re-draft league:

Section 9.03 Playoff Seeds

1. Division Record

2. Head to Head Record

3. Total Starting Points

4. Division Record

5. Head to Head Points

6. Head to Head Non-Starting Points

7. Coin Flip

***If a tie exists between 3 or more teams, then the division records and head-to-head records will be combined

Some of the owners are complaining that the head to head record should be first not the division record. The reason the division record is #1 is because there's more games to break a tie.

Nothing is going to change in our league, but I'm trying to get an idea about what other leagues use, what you think is correct, etc.

Anything other than POINTS FOR is stupid. There's enough luck in FF already. Give the guy who fielded the better team the break.The second tiebreaker should be MOST POINTS AGAINST if necessary. For the same reason as above.

My main league is a head-to-head league with divisions. I draft accordingly--using DD to maximize weeks in which I play division opponents and letting non-division games slide. And drafting to beat the guys I'm playing, not maximizing overall score through the course of the whole season. It's a different strategy entirely, it opens up more QBBC and DTBC opportunity and lets you pick up more value late and play matchups. Otherwise it'd be a mad scramble for Mannings and Bradys. Overall points, you're playing the LT2 and Tom Brady owner every week. Head-to-head, you just maximize your schedule.

Won the championship one year going 9-1 in the division and only 1-2 in interdivision play. Was only the 4th highest scoring team in the league, but since I made sure I scored a lot when playing the good opponents, and scheduling stud byes when I was playing weaker opponents, it worked out perfectly.

If you're in a head-to-head league, head-to-head tiebreaker makes sense.

 

[nyftbl_giants]

We have 2 divisions and play a 13 game season with 8 divisional games and 5 non-divisional games. So essentially we play everyone in our division twice and everyone else in the league once. Here's the tiebreakers we use in our 10 team re-draft league:

Section 9.03 Playoff Seeds

1. Division Record

2. Head to Head Record

3. Total Starting Points

4. Division Record

5. Head to Head Points

6. Head to Head Non-Starting Points

7. Coin Flip

***If a tie exists between 3 or more teams, then the division records and head-to-head records will be combined

Some of the owners are complaining that the head to head record should be first not the division record. The reason the division record is #1 is because there's more games to break a tie.

Nothing is going to change in our league, but I'm trying to get an idea about what other leagues use, what you think is correct, etc.

Anything other than POINTS FOR is stupid. There's enough luck in FF already. Give the guy who fielded the better team the break.The second tiebreaker should be MOST POINTS AGAINST if necessary. For the same reason as above.

its the only thing the owner completely controls. if total points are down for an owner due to lineup mistakes so be it. but to lose on a head to head when your 2 best players were off that week is...well weak

 

[-jb-]

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[Hugonel]

I like total points. If the other fellow wasn't able to beat you outright, then you should get the benefit of having the overall better team since he likely had an easier schedule if he scored fewer points but still has the same record.

 

[Road Warriors]

My league uses a 3 division setup.

Tiebreaks for division champs

1. H2H

2. Division

3. Total points

Tiebreaks for 3 wildcard spots.

1. Total points

Within a division, everyone plays the same schedule. I like the split tiebreak system, which gives stronger teams a way into the playoffs as a wildcard if they didn't catch the luck H2H.

 

[DropKick]

We have 2 divisions and play a 13 game season with 8 divisional games and 5 non-divisional games. So essentially we play everyone in our division twice and everyone else in the league once. Here's the tiebreakers we use in our 10 team re-draft league:Section 9.03 Playoff Seeds 1. Division Record 2. Head to Head Record 3. Total Starting Points 4. Division Record 5. Head to Head Points 6. Head to Head Non-Starting Points 7. Coin Flip ***If a tie exists between 3 or more teams, then the division records and head-to-head records will be combined Some of the owners are complaining that the head to head record should be first not the division record. The reason the division record is #1 is because there's more games to break a tie. Nothing is going to change in our league, but I'm trying to get an idea about what other leagues use, what you think is correct, etc.

Is this a typo? You have divisional record twice.Also, we never go by total points since it encourages people to run up the score.

 

[LTsharks]

For Division ties we use:

1) division record

2) Head to Head record

3) Breakdown (or all-play) record of tied teams

4) Total points

For wildcard and playoff seeds:

1) Breakdown (or all-play) record of tied teams

2) Total points

We like to emphasize the head to head nature of our divisional races, so we have kept those tiebreakers at the front for the divisions.

The Breakdown record is provided by CBS (other sites probably provide this and it wouldn't be hard to figure out) and is simply the record of the two teams if they played each other ever week of the regular season. In a head to head league, this method gives you a great way to compare two or more teams against each other. It rewards total points and consistency throughout the season.

Works for us - just another idea.

 

[VIKEfan]

We have 2 divisions and play a 13 game season with 8 divisional games and 5 non-divisional games. So essentially we play everyone in our division twice and everyone else in the league once. Here's the tiebreakers we use in our 10 team re-draft league:Section 9.03 Playoff Seeds 1. Division Record 2. Head to Head Record 3. Total Starting Points 4. Division Record 5. Head to Head Points 6. Head to Head Non-Starting Points 7. Coin Flip ***If a tie exists between 3 or more teams, then the division records and head-to-head records will be combined Some of the owners are complaining that the head to head record should be first not the division record. The reason the division record is #1 is because there's more games to break a tie. Nothing is going to change in our league, but I'm trying to get an idea about what other leagues use, what you think is correct, etc.

Our league uses the same base concept you have for scheduling. However, we put 4 double header games in (weeks 3,6,9,and 12) quite a few years ago. Head to head has almost always been the one and only determining factor (needed) for breaking ties as each team now plays the other 4 division teams 3 times each. Since there will never be a head to head tie...it seems to work out perfectly for breaking win/loss ties, and division record ties. We have never needed to use anything beyond head to head records between teams.

 

[MCguidance]

We have 2 divisions and play a 13 game season with 8 divisional games and 5 non-divisional games. So essentially we play everyone in our division twice and everyone else in the league once. Here's the tiebreakers we use in our 10 team re-draft league:

Section 9.03 Playoff Seeds

1. Division Record

2. Head to Head Record

3. Total Starting Points

4. Division Record

5. Head to Head Points

6. Head to Head Non-Starting Points

7. Coin Flip

***If a tie exists between 3 or more teams, then the division records and head-to-head records will be combined

Some of the owners are complaining that the head to head record should be first not the division record. The reason the division record is #1 is because there's more games to break a tie.

Nothing is going to change in our league, but I'm trying to get an idea about what other leagues use, what you think is correct, etc.

Anything other than POINTS FOR is stupid. There's enough luck in FF already. Give the guy who fielded the better team the break.The second tiebreaker should be MOST POINTS AGAINST if necessary. For the same reason as above.

I don't understand this, can you explain? I get that you don't want luck to be invloved, as FF has enough luck already...but then you said POINTS AGAINST. Isn't that luck as well - ie: you happen to play the high pointer scorer for the week?? How can you control how many points your fantasy team gives up in a week?