metoo
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Brown stated he's been saying this for years.
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Tim Brown accuses Callahan of sabotaging the SuperBowl (1 Viewer)
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Not surprised at all this story has legs. The Te'o story is so last week and Lance Armstrong's got nothing left to confess on the Oprah show. We're in the middle of a Super Bowl media hangover and neither SB team is throwing out any locker room material at each other. Given a vacuum, the folks over at BSPN have to fill the air somehow. Just an elaborate fishing trip and look how many bit on the bait.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
you should probably learn that when you first perceive a thing isn't when it actually comes into existence.also, there are a lot of answers to your questions about a story in the actual story.
But the facts are what they are, that less than 36 hours before the game, we changed our game plan. And we go into that game absolutely knowing that we have no shot. That the only shot we had if Tampa Bay didn't show up," he said.
I think it was their defeatist attitude that cost them the game.
I think it was their defeatist attitude that cost them the game.
Exactly. There is no incentive for Callahan to throw the game. Even if he bet $1 million on the game to lose, he would have made much more in that in his next contract (with or without the Raiders). You can't put a price on being a Super Bowl winning coach (on the resume)...actually, you can, but it would be much more than you could ever win gambling. Beyond the gambling angle, there is certainly no other plausible reason why he would "throw" a SB. That is the thing with this; the main answer given to Callahan's motivation is his friendship with Gruden, and that is just weak.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Remember when Callahan said, "We must be the stupidest team in America"?Well Tim Brown is exhibit A. 
Why did it take over a decade to bring this up then? Do you know how hard it is to keep a secret with 2 people let alone an entire coaching staff or 2 if Gruden was in on it? Not to mention you dropped back 45 to 55 times in the game because you were down 20 - 3 at halftime and 34 - 3 with 5 minutes left in the 3rd.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
this board has some dumbasses posting on it.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
'SacramentoBob said:
This is the first time I've even clicked on this absurd thread, and it was only due to boredom.As for Bad Mo, no clue who he is... can't remember a single thing he's ever posted. But he seems to be obsessed with me.Tanner9919
Footballguy
Mike Francesca was talking about this on WFAN yesterday and just how baseless these claims really are..they didn't gain any real momentum until Jerry Rice threw his two cents in..basically, a SB victory is worth roughly $10mil to the winning coach in notoriety, endorsements, future job offers being able to say you're a SB winning coach, etc....so you're implying that Callahan would just simply write a check to Gruden for +/- $10mil and call it a day then? that's nonsense.'Kool-Aid Larry said:
and now we have Tim Brown backtracking,despite being on audio tape saying Callahan 'sabotaged' their SB game, he's now claiming "I NEVER used the word 'sabotage', the media has spun this the wrong way"..
WR's complain when you change the gameplan to 'run-first'..they're divas..that's what they do.whine when they dont' get the ball,just ask Keyshawn.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I remember someone getting arrested the week of the game being blamed at the time.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
What did Rice say?
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
gotta be a link around here somewhere to this story --- let me hunt around a minute.
This has to give Jerry Jones a warm and fuzzy.
Sure you do...don't pretend you don't.And, don't flatter yourself with that obsession talk. Maybe your obsession with being so anti-Patriots has your mind twisted so much that you are deflecting.'SacramentoBob said:
As for Bad Mo, no clue who he is... can't remember a single thing he's ever posted. But he seems to be obsessed with me.
I wish the tuck rule game never happened because you, sir, are one bitter fan of the team that got the short end of that deal. Time to move on and accept things. You can certainly hate whichever team, or teams, you like, but accept the fact that NE is a franchise others look to emulate. Just stop starting threads whining about NE. It is unbecoming.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
that's more like a shack that should be condemnedThe house that Al built...?'SacramentoBob said:
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lol...just beware of what may be buried under the crawl space too.that's more like a shack that should be condemnedThe house that Al built...?'SacramentoBob said:
Tanner9919
Footballguy
so,let me get this straight...Tim Brown lost the game because of Callahan's 'sabotage', and yet it had nothing,zero,zip,nada to do with Gannon's 5 INT's, 3 of them for TD's??! oh wait, I now know why this guy chose NOW to come forward with this allegation of 'sabotage':he's a 2013 nominee for induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.. 
basically, he's implying that had the Raiders won that SB, he'd be voted in as a HOF'er because at the least he has a ring,and at best, he 'might have' been voted SB MVP...this is such a transparent,blatant pandering attempt to persuade judges to vote for him...he's always been a sore loser,but this is going to far..he's more desperate to get into the HOF than Terrell Davis, it's laughable..
oh wait, I now know why this guy chose NOW to come forward with this allegation of 'sabotage':he's a 2013 nominee for induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.. basically, he's implying that had the Raiders won that SB, he'd be voted in as a HOF'er because at the least he has a ring,and at best, he 'might have' been voted SB MVP...this is such a transparent,blatant pandering attempt to persuade judges to vote for him...he's always been a sore loser,but this is going to far..he's more desperate to get into the HOF than Terrell Davis, it's laughable.. 
ICON211
Footballguy
I think people would be less likely to vote for him because of this. He has a history of saying some weird stuff I don't think it has anything to do with the hall of fame.so,let me get this straight...Tim Brown lost the game because of Callahan's 'sabotage', and yet it had nothing,zero,zip,nada to do with Gannon's 5 INT's, 3 of them for TD's??!
joey
Footballguy
"Jerry Rice agrees with Tim Brown: Bill Callahan sabotaged us"http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/22/jerry-rice-agrees-with-tim-brown-bill-callahan-sabotaged-us/
This is my best take on this situation:Callahan realizes that he needs to change the language of his offense because he's facing Gruden. He then sees this as an opportunity to play to the weakness of the Bucs D by changing his gameplan to a more run-oriented approach. Sometime in the week leading up to the Super Bowl, something happens with Robbins (many possibilities here) and he convinces himself that he will be unable to successfully implement this new offense (I've read that he played a very significant part in calling the Raiders' offense). He begs Callahan to switch back to the original offense and Callahan refuses. This causes Robbins to go off the deep-end and he leaves town or whatever happened. Callahan, now with his backup center who probably did little to no work with the new offense, is essentially forced back to his passing offense. After the loss, Brown incorrectly assumes the causation between the changing offense and Robbins leaving, and from there draws the conclusion that Callahan must have sabotaged the game.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
That's a misleading title in that link. Rice didn't go all-in like Brown did with the accusation.
joey
Footballguy
These quotes by Rice from that article sure make that title seem appropriate to me:“For some reason — and I don’t know why — Bill Callahan did not like me,” Rice said. “In a way, maybe because he didn’t like the Raiders, he decided, ‘Maybe we should sabotage this a little bit and let Jon Gruden go out and win this one.’”For Rice, a universally respected player who was named in a poll of experts conducted by NFL Network as the greatest player in NFL history, to say that he believes one of his former coaches actively wanted to lose a Super Bowl is shocking. ESPN’s Trey Wingo stopped Rice and asked him if he realized the magnitude of the accusation that Callahan once threw the Super Bowl. Rice said he understands the weight of his words.“Yeah, I know exactly what I’m saying,” Rice said.
Just finished reading Marc Trestman's book "Perseverance." I've read dozens of Head Football Coaches books over the years, but didn't know a ton about this guy and it was a good read for those interested.Marc Trestman was the OC for the Raiders when this debacle took place. Trestman discussed how much him and Callahan loved getting the script together for a game. (For those unaware, the script is the opening sequence of plays for an offense. Most scripts are at least 15 plays long and give a good baseline as to find clues to an opponent for the rest of the game.) Trestman talked about how they told the team to get plenty of rest because it was going to be an exciting start to the game(this was a regular season game that season). They threw the ball every play in the first half, but one...which was a draw play that went for a TD.Point: They seemed bold enough to do things they thought were best for the team. I don't think the script and gameplan have to necessarily be the exact same. You can pass a little more, even in a running gameplan, to ensure better running lanes later in the game.
