Tipping Etiquette (1 Viewer)

[Frostillicus]

I always tip a little extra if I get a BJ.

 

[ghostguy123]

I would never want the current system of tipping to go away. Service would be awful.

Why do you think this? Other countries do this and the service is probably better than here in the states. And here in the US there are plenty of customer service gigs where the service is very good, and there is no tipping.

Other countries also have people that flee to america and do jobs that pay very little and are happy to be here so I don't think what happens in other countries means that much.

There are several reasons why I think service quality would go way down.

1. The fear of not getting a tip or getting a poor tip would go away. This doesn't make a big difference in a lot of scenarios, but in situations where the kitchen messes up or your order got screwed up somehow, a good server can make you feel much better about your evening.

2. The allure of the huge day brings in a higher quality of employee.

3. Bartenders would be less motivated to blast out the drinks.

4. Posted meal prices would increase if tipping was abolished. This would cause fewer people to eat out.Which would lead to lower wages for servers and therefore a lower quality of employee. Americans are notorious for viewing sticker prices incorrectly and not noticing hidden fees. It is why things get priced at 9.95 instead of 10. When people are asked what it costs they say 9 bucks. If you asked somebody how much their dinner was last night, they will likely respond with the amount of their meal, not the total with tax and tip. It is why so many industries have moved to hidden fees. Even though people dislike hidden fees, they dislike sticker shock even more.

Bartending is where I really think you would see the biggest difference. A smart bartender knows that if he can pour more drinks he will make more money. People don't want to wait. This is far more important to them than a bartender that provides great conversation.

disagree with every ounce of every part of this.

 

[jon_mx]

What I hate is tipping bell boys. I just got done hauling my bags half way across the world, and they want $5 for taking them up the elevator.

So don't use the bell service. I almost never do unless I am checking in and my room isn't ready.

Some hotels they don't ask. They just start loading your bags as you check in.

 

[ghostguy123]

What I hate is tipping bell boys. I just got done hauling my bags half way across the world, and they want $5 for taking them up the elevator.

So don't use the bell service. I almost never do unless I am checking in and my room isn't ready.

Some hotels they don't ask. They just start loading your bags as you check in.

Yeah I dont like these frogs touching my stuff. I will tote my own stuff until I am too old to do so, or injured or something. Until then, step off bell #####es.

 

[parasaurolophus]

I would never want the current system of tipping to go away. Service would be awful.

Why do you think this? Other countries do this and the service is probably better than here in the states. And here in the US there are plenty of customer service gigs where the service is very good, and there is no tipping.

Other countries also have people that flee to america and do jobs that pay very little and are happy to be here so I don't think what happens in other countries means that much.

There are several reasons why I think service quality would go way down.

1. The fear of not getting a tip or getting a poor tip would go away. This doesn't make a big difference in a lot of scenarios, but in situations where the kitchen messes up or your order got screwed up somehow, a good server can make you feel much better about your evening.

2. The allure of the huge day brings in a higher quality of employee.

3. Bartenders would be less motivated to blast out the drinks.

4. Posted meal prices would increase if tipping was abolished. This would cause fewer people to eat out.Which would lead to lower wages for servers and therefore a lower quality of employee. Americans are notorious for viewing sticker prices incorrectly and not noticing hidden fees. It is why things get priced at 9.95 instead of 10. When people are asked what it costs they say 9 bucks. If you asked somebody how much their dinner was last night, they will likely respond with the amount of their meal, not the total with tax and tip. It is why so many industries have moved to hidden fees. Even though people dislike hidden fees, they dislike sticker shock even more.

Bartending is where I really think you would see the biggest difference. A smart bartender knows that if he can pour more drinks he will make more money. People don't want to wait. This is far more important to them than a bartender that provides great conversation.

disagree with every ounce of every part of this.

This whole thread is pretty much opinion so feel free to disagree with me, but to "disagree with every ounce of every part" of my statements is pretty ridiculous.

It would mean that you are basically disagreeing with every marketing strategy of every retail company in america by saying that there is no psychology involved with lower price appearance. It is why the $19.95 oil change is actually a 19.95 + 1.83 oil disposal surcharge. $21.78 oil change special just doesnt have the same ring to it. Why dont vegas hotel rooms just add the resort fee into the advertised room price? Why are so many items priced with .99 endings?

Look at the comments sections of every article posted by somebody about how getting rid of tipping is better. They are loaded with servers saying how much money they make. Even the people that are currently servers overestimate how much they make per hour. The ones that used to be servers sometimes remember it in even more positive light. "I used to make 200-300 a night."

You are basically saying that there has never existed a bartender that realized in a crowded bar if he could keep the drinks crossing the bar continuously he would make tons more money than if he stopped and chatted all evening with the pretty girl at the end of the bar and that people are ok with this because when the bartender comes and talks to them he is really nice.

You are basically covering your ears, closing your eyes and screaming lalalalalalalala in order to disagree with every ounce of every part.

 

[parasaurolophus]

What I hate is tipping bell boys. I just got done hauling my bags half way across the world, and they want $5 for taking them up the elevator.

So don't use the bell service. I almost never do unless I am checking in and my room isn't ready.

Some hotels they don't ask. They just start loading your bags as you check in.

I have never stayed at a hotel where they start grabbing my bags from me while I am checking in without asking. Where are these hotels? so I can avoid them.

 

[massraider]

That's fine. Consumers can speak with their dollars (and yelp I suppose). Higher wages, less business. It'll work itself out.

That's why you always get great customer service at electronic stores, right? And fast food, yes? And auto mechanics?

Because it works itself out?

Like I said, the economics would work itself out, as restaurants would raise prices on everything to accommodate paying their staff. And here's what else would happen:

Restaurants would understaff. This isn't a guess, this is a guarantee. One of the clubs I am involved in, always has about one extra bartender on per night (than is probably necessary). The thinking is, at 6 bucks an hour (or 3 or 4 or 7 an hour), if the bartender makes 7 or 8 more drinks than would have been made without him, it was worth it. If that same bartender was making 15-20 per hour? You'd have one less bartender on per night. Same with bus boys, and servers.

Why do you suppose some retail stores and car dealers have commissions?

 

[thayman]

What I hate is tipping bell boys. I just got done hauling my bags half way across the world, and they want $5 for taking them up the elevator.

So don't use the bell service. I almost never do unless I am checking in and my room isn't ready.

Some hotels they don't ask. They just start loading your bags as you check in.

I have never stayed at a hotel where they start grabbing my bags from me while I am checking in without asking. Where are these hotels? so I can avoid them.

This is standard service at nice hotels. Most Best Westerns don't have it so you should be fine.

 

[EYLive]

That's fine. Consumers can speak with their dollars (and yelp I suppose). Higher wages, less business. It'll work itself out.

That's why you always get great customer service at electronic stores, right? And fast food, yes? And auto mechanics?

Because it works itself out?

Like I said, the economics would work itself out, as restaurants would raise prices on everything to accommodate paying their staff. And here's what else would happen:

Restaurants would understaff. This isn't a guess, this is a guarantee. One of the clubs I am involved in, always has about one extra bartender on per night (than is probably necessary). The thinking is, at 6 bucks an hour (or 3 or 4 or 7 an hour), if the bartender makes 7 or 8 more drinks than would have been made without him, it was worth it. If that same bartender was making 15-20 per hour? You'd have one less bartender on per night. Same with bus boys, and servers.

Why do you suppose some retail stores and car dealers have commissions?

You make a good point. From the perspective of ownership/management it would be a difficult shift to make.

But from an employee point of view, replacing the unreliability of tips with a dependable higher wage leads to more consistent service, no?

And for consumers to know that the cost of goods and services flows directly to the staff, as well as removing the guesswork and evaluation process involved in tipping would result in a more pleasurable dining experience. At least it would for me and my friends.

 

[parasaurolophus]

What I hate is tipping bell boys. I just got done hauling my bags half way across the world, and they want $5 for taking them up the elevator.

So don't use the bell service. I almost never do unless I am checking in and my room isn't ready.

Some hotels they don't ask. They just start loading your bags as you check in.

I have never stayed at a hotel where they start grabbing my bags from me while I am checking in without asking. Where are these hotels? so I can avoid them.

This is standard service at nice hotels. Most Best Westerns don't have it so you should be fine.

BS. I have stayed at the Manchester Grand Hyatt, Elara, Monte Carlo, MGM Grand, JW Marriott, Red Rock, Saratoga Springs, Animal Kingdom Lodge, Boardwalk Villas, Loews Atlanta, Renaissance Flatiron, Doubletree, Hilton Times Square, Sofitel, Graves 601, and Port Orleans Riverside in the last year or so and they haven't done this at a single one of these places. They frequently ask, but they have never just started taking my bags.