Titans Fans....Let's talk draft (1 Viewer)

[bigreese82]

I've been looking at various mocks and studying our roster now for a couple of months. I know there are some potential trade possibilities and I have come up with a scenario that I think should work well. We are at 19. At 19, it looks like we will have the choice of the 2nd best wr there. It is widely considered lately that guy is either Ginn or Meacham.

We also look to be in position to grab the 2nd or 3rd best CB on our board. I haven't quite decided which is our biggest need but I have decided that the best move for us would be.....to trade down in round one and try to trade up in round 2. I think the money spot for us will be in the top 10-12 spots in the 2nd round. At this spot we will be able to take either the 4th -6th best WR or the 4th-6th best DB. This second round pick will have to be either CB or WR...the position that doesn't get grabbed in the first. It's looking like the best play would be to go CB in the first after our trade down. This would still land us the 3rd or 4th best CB in the first. I say go CB in the first because there is not a consensus ranking for WRs 2-6. All 6 of these guys likely have chances to be True number 1s. I only believe 4 will go in the first and will leave 2 first round wr prospects to possibly be had in the 2nd round.

Any thoughts ?

my alternative draft plan would be to go to a Cover 2/ZONE system to fully take advantage of Nick Harper and our CB problems. I would then go a combo of DE and WR in the first 2 rounds.I don't think this will happen but is probably the wise move. Fisher and Schwartzy are aggressive man-to-man guys and this will be going against their beliefs. Don't give our DC enough credit to fit scheme to personnel

 

[King of the Jungle]

I've been looking at various mocks and studying our roster now for a couple of months. I know there are some potential trade possibilities and I have come up with a scenario that I think should work well. We are at 19. At 19, it looks like we will have the choice of the 2nd best wr there. It is widely considered lately that guy is either Ginn or Meacham.

We also look to be in position to grab the 2nd or 3rd best CB on our board. I haven't quite decided which is our biggest need but I have decided that the best move for us would be.....to trade down in round one and try to trade up in round 2. I think the money spot for us will be in the top 10-12 spots in the 2nd round. At this spot we will be able to take either the 4th -6th best WR or the 4th-6th best DB. This second round pick will have to be either CB or WR...the position that doesn't get grabbed in the first. It's looking like the best play would be to go CB in the first after our trade down. This would still land us the 3rd or 4th best CB in the first. I say go CB in the first because there is not a consensus ranking for WRs 2-6. All 6 of these guys likely have chances to be True number 1s. I only believe 4 will go in the first and will leave 2 first round wr prospects to possibly be had in the 2nd round.

Any thoughts ?

my alternative draft plan would be to go to a Cover 2/ZONE system to fully take advantage of Nick Harper and our CB problems. I would then go a combo of DE and WR in the first 2 rounds.I don't think this will happen but is probably the wise move. Fisher and Schwartzy are aggressive man-to-man guys and this will be going against their beliefs. Don't give our DC enough credit to fit scheme to personnel

IMO the 2nd best WR is Dwayne Bowe, and it isn't even close. I would say he is closer to the Calvin Johnson tier than he is the tier below him (Meachem, Ginn, Jarrett, Rice...). The 2nd best WR in the 2007 NFL Draft

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[bigreese82]

I've been looking at various mocks and studying our roster now for a couple of months. I know there are some potential trade possibilities and I have come up with a scenario that I think should work well. We are at 19. At 19, it looks like we will have the choice of the 2nd best wr there. It is widely considered lately that guy is either Ginn or Meacham.

We also look to be in position to grab the 2nd or 3rd best CB on our board. I haven't quite decided which is our biggest need but I have decided that the best move for us would be.....to trade down in round one and try to trade up in round 2. I think the money spot for us will be in the top 10-12 spots in the 2nd round. At this spot we will be able to take either the 4th -6th best WR or the 4th-6th best DB. This second round pick will have to be either CB or WR...the position that doesn't get grabbed in the first. It's looking like the best play would be to go CB in the first after our trade down. This would still land us the 3rd or 4th best CB in the first. I say go CB in the first because there is not a consensus ranking for WRs 2-6. All 6 of these guys likely have chances to be True number 1s. I only believe 4 will go in the first and will leave 2 first round wr prospects to possibly be had in the 2nd round.

Any thoughts ?

my alternative draft plan would be to go to a Cover 2/ZONE system to fully take advantage of Nick Harper and our CB problems. I would then go a combo of DE and WR in the first 2 rounds.I don't think this will happen but is probably the wise move. Fisher and Schwartzy are aggressive man-to-man guys and this will be going against their beliefs. Don't give our DC enough credit to fit scheme to personnel

IMO the 2nd best WR is Dwayne Bowe, and it isn't even close. I would say he is closer to the Calvin Johnson tier than he is the tier below him (Meachem, Ginn, Jarrett, Rice...). The 2nd best WR in the 2007 NFL Draft

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That is one of my points...The rankings are everywhere. It might be possible to trade down 4-6 spots and still get Meachem or Bowe

 

[bigreese82]

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl...413/1328/SPORTS

Thursday, 04/26/07

Reese likes Ohio St. WR for Titans

Ex-GM says Ginn could help Young

By JIM WYATT

Staff Writer

For 13 years, Floyd Reese ran the draft for the Titans.

Two days before this year's draft, he's on the outside looking in as an NFL analyst for ESPN.

The former Titans general manager said he wanted to surround quarterback Vince Young with talent, and he believes Ohio State receiver Ted Ginn Jr. could be Tennessee's first-round pick at 19th overall.

"My plan was — not that anybody cared — we were going to try and get Vince some weapons," Reese said. "We were going to be sure we had quality tight ends and we wanted to add at receiver.''

Reese said the hope was to "somehow be able to keep" running back Travis Henry and let second-year pro LenDale White mature.

But Henry is no longer a Titan, and neither are wide receivers Drew Bennett and Bobby Wade.

"I would think that Ginn or somebody like that would be a possibility," Reese said. "If one of the running backs were to slip, maybe the kid from Cal (Marshawn Lynch), he would have to be a possibility, too.''

Reese likes Ginn's speed and return-game skills. He compared Ginn's playmaking abilities to those of Chicago's Devin Hester and the Titans' Pacman Jones.

The Titans, who went 8-8 last season, declined to extend Reese's contract in January and he was replaced by Mike Reinfeldt.

"Prior to the offseason I would have definitely said they were going to go on defense,'' Reese said of the 19th pick. "I know (Coach Jeff Fisher) was looking for defensive ends or corners. Now, with the loss of the receivers and the running back, the scary part in their situation is you are not going to have enough draft choices to fill all those holes. I think that will be a major task for them."

"If they can go through the draft and they can pluck enough guys to go in and fill those holes, and they can win eight or more games, then I think it will be a terrific job.''

 

[Da Guru]

bottom line is the Titans have to get a WR for Young..be it Bowe ,Ginn or Jarrett.

 

[Two Deep]

I would say they almost have to go with Ginn now that Jones is suspended. Although I think Young would benefit more by picking a more polished route runner someone he can count on being in the right spot.

 

[msommer]

Regarding CB first:

1) People who believe that the appeal to the commish that handed out the suspension in the first will reduce the length significantly are IMHO delusional.

2) In case Pacman is not coming back ever CB is an area of severe need now.

3) Harper is not that young (33 when season starts) and eventually physical decline will come. Whether that means a move to FS or nickelback or cut I do not know. The contract signed could be wieved as a one or two year contract as base salary escalates from 1M in 2007 to 2M in 2008 to 3.4M in 2009. PFW reports a 9-10M deal with 3M in guarantees - if that is a 3M SB (bas salaries add up to 6.4M so that would make sense) then the Titans can cut Harper after this season cap neutrally for 2008 but with a 3.4M saving for 2009. If designated a June 1st cut in 2008 there will be a 1M saving in 2008 and 2.4M in 2009.

The conclusion of that is you can see Harper as the insurance policy against Pac not returning in 2008 either. If he does return effectively Harper can be cut or traded. That still leaves the 2nd CB slot open for upgrade - currently that spot is contested by Hill, Woolfolk and Finnegan.

Drafting a CB early would definitely make sense.

With Pacman out the team also need a returner. Half the mock's I've seen have them taking Ginn for that reason. If that happens and Pac returns in 2008 - how is that going to work? Taking Ginn means cutting ties with Pacman and then CB is probably a bigger need. Perhaps there is a returner that can be had later in the draft. Do not forget the Titans have 10 picks.

Cover two? I very much doubt that - not only does the Titans not have the coaches for it they also do not have the safeties.

Having 10 picks means ammunition to move up - but 7 of the ten picks are day two picks (2 in the 4th, three in the 6th, one 5th, one 7th).

Hall, Houston, Revis and Ross could very well go in the first, one could slip and this could be the ticket to trade down. A trade however needs a partner and who would trade up?

 

[Hawk]

With Pacman out the team also need a returner. Half the mock's I've seen have them taking Ginn for that reason. If that happens and Pac returns in 2008 - how is that going to work? Taking Ginn means cutting ties with Pacman and then CB is probably a bigger need. Perhaps there is a returner that can be had later in the draft. Do not forget the Titans have 10 picks.

I think you are WAY off base to say that taking Ginn means cutting ties wth Pacman. The Titans cannot depend on Pacman to come back. Everything in his history suggests that he will screw up again. You hope not, but you must plan accordingly, so taking Ginn gives them an insurance policy on special teams. If they take Ginn, and Pacman does come back next year, then you have Pacman return punts and Ginn return kickoffs. Pacman will be so important to the defense, that I think the Titans would be thrilled to be able to sit him on kickoffs while still putting a guy back there with game breaking ability. Plus Ginn fills a real void on their offense. They have a lot of WR's that are big, but none that have truly great speed. Ginn has speed, and that would add another dimension to their offense.

 

[RD1967]

I would say they almost have to go with Ginn now that Jones is suspended. Although I think Young would benefit more by picking a more polished route runner someone he can count on being in the right spot.

I really dont see anyone picking up a return man in the first round, I think Ginn drops to the end of the 2nd round, maybe to the start of the third. Too many better hands and seperation guys. I think a Jason hill, Steve Smith, Bowe, Jarret you name it 7 or 8 WR better suited for down to down play. If the Titans were blessed with a 1 and 2 WR, Did not have other needs I could see them taking Ginn and let him develope as an NFL wide out. I know he is quick, fast and dangerous, but he needs a lot of work to make it in the NFL as anything more than threat on the KR. Despite any talk from an NFL team before the Draft, the shocker I think will be how far Ginn Slid on draft day.

 

[Colin Dowling]

IMO the 2nd best WR is Dwayne Bowe, and it isn't even close. I would say he is closer to the Calvin Johnson tier than he is the tier below him (Meachem, Ginn, Jarrett, Rice...). ****Turn your speakers down if you do not want to hear the explicit lyrics

YOu're dreaming.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I will fall over if they pass on Revis, Hall, or Anderson to take a WR, but if they do, I hope it is Ginn. I think Meachem is much better, and Bowe is probably on par, but Ginn brings some things to the table they need. Namely, he can return kicks (which is a very underrated part of the game). I think Jones is on his way up and Roby/Williams are not lost causes.

Short of Calvin Johnson, I think Ginn is a great pick for the Titans. Also, if they can move up in the 2nd to grab one of the B+ tier DEs or CBs, I think that would be a trade well advised.

 

[zadok]

VY dynasty owner here - PLEASE do not take Ginn!!

 

[Buckna]

Although I'm not a Titans fan, I think they would better served by trying to trade up from their 2nd into the late 1st or early 2nd where they could possibly get a corner or WR (whichever of those two spots that they don't take with their 1st.)

Aren't the Titans sitting on some extra picks this year?

 

[enfuego]

I think what we will see is either the best DE or CB at #19 (Adam Carricker or Aaron Ross) or a trade down and then the best available player when the pick comes up...Of course, I think we'll see a couple WR's drafted, but overall I think the core is fairly young and decent.

Overall, the draft will lean HEAVILY towards defense...I would say 70-30 or 65-35 %.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

They should address the returner issue by drafting Figures on the second day. He's not Ginn, but he's pretty darn good and then they could address their needs in the first without worrying about the returner aspects of it.

 

[sho nuff]

I think Ginn will be the pick.

Its not just his returns...its his explosiveness...while he is not a great route runner, that might fit right in with VY's ability to make something outside of the pocket.

And he can turn a 5 yard slant into a 60 yard TD because of his speed and moves.

Simply put, he is a big time threat every time he touches the ball.

I could see DE if Anderson drops there...I don't see them taking Jarvis Moss though.

Also would not mind Revis there if he is available.

And whoever said Ginn will fall to the late 2nd or 3rd is dreaming.

 

[zadok]

I would draft Aaron Ross in the 1st if I were the Titans. Takes care of the CB and returner need.

 

[waylander]

I've been back and forth with this thought, but I am pretty certain that if Ginn is there, he will be the pick. If not, I say they will probably go defense, and get a WR in the 2nd. If thats the case, I'm thinking/hoping Jarett, if he falls, or Steve Smith.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I think the posting about Ginn's explosiveness is a big deal. It may seem one dimensional, but all you need from the guy is a 35 yard return or 30 yard reception on 3rd down each game and he more then justifies the pick.

 

[waylander]

Like what was mentioned previously, Ginn can score any time the ball is in his hand. I don't think the other first round talent WR's have that same quality.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Like what was mentioned previously, Ginn can score any time the ball is in his hand. I don't think the other first round talent WR's have that same quality.

Agreed. That said, Robert Meachem is as good in the open field as any WR I can remember in recent years.

 

[King of the Jungle]

IMO the 2nd best WR is Dwayne Bowe, and it isn't even close. I would say he is closer to the Calvin Johnson tier than he is the tier below him (Meachem, Ginn, Jarrett, Rice...). ****Turn your speakers down if you do not want to hear the explicit lyrics

YOu're dreaming.

Time will tell bud.

 

[waylander]

Like what was mentioned previously, Ginn can score any time the ball is in his hand. I don't think the other first round talent WR's have that same quality.

Agreed. That said, Robert Meachem is as good in the open field as any WR I can remember in recent years.

Regardless, I think that if you are going to take a WR in the first couple rounds, this is the year to do it. So I feel real good about us going into the draft. I think the first two rounds will address two major needs for us. I'm not sure which two, or in what order, but I'm very optimistic.

 

[King of the Jungle]

VY dynasty owner here - PLEASE do not take Ginn!!

I agree with this. Gonzalez put up almost identical stats receiving as Ginn last year (with a higher avg per catch). I do think Ginn will be a asset in the return game, but I have many doubts of him becoming a #1 WR in a NFL offense. Speed kills, but you have many other factors that determine whether you will succeed at the next level. I just don't see many of the other traits (route running, hands, ability to read the defense, blocking, getting away from the jam...) being more than average.

 

[waylander]

VY dynasty owner here - PLEASE do not take Ginn!!

I agree with this. Gonzalez put up almost identical stats receiving as Ginn last year (with a higher avg per catch). I do think Ginn will be a asset in the return game, but I have many doubts of him becoming a #1 WR in a NFL offense. Speed kills, but you have many other factors that determine whether you will succeed at the next level. I just don't see many of the other traits (route running, hands, ability to read the defense, blocking, getting away from the jam...) being more than average.

Won't his rookie year in the NFL be only his fourth year playing WR? If he is already as good as Gonzalez, who I am assuming has played WR for most of his football career, then I think Ginn would have more upside.

 

[Bevo]

bottom line is the Titans have to get a WR for Young..be it Bowe ,Ginn or Jarrett.

I agree. Unfortunately they also need to get an RB since relying on FatDale to step it up is not a smart move. I am not saying White can't/won't step it up, just that it will be be stupid to rely on it.

 

[Colin Dowling]

bottom line is the Titans have to get a WR for Young..be it Bowe ,Ginn or Jarrett.

I agree. Unfortunately they also need to get an RB since relying on FatDale to step it up is not a smart move. I am not saying White can't/won't step it up, just that it will be be stupid to rely on it.

Why is that not a smart move?

 

[Bevo]

bottom line is the Titans have to get a WR for Young..be it Bowe ,Ginn or Jarrett.

I agree. Unfortunately they also need to get an RB since relying on FatDale to step it up is not a smart move. I am not saying White can't/won't step it up, just that it will be be stupid to rely on it.

Why is that not a smart move?

Because he has yet to show he can do it. As a Titan's fan are you confident enough with him that you want to see the Titan's rely on him as their RB #1 for this season? I sure wouldn't wish that on my favorite team.ETA: I wouldn't view this as quite as much of a problem if the Titan's had some very good experienced WRs and TEs, but this team doesn't have any really good proven offensive weapons outside of Young and even he isn't that experienced.

 

[Colin Dowling]

bottom line is the Titans have to get a WR for Young..be it Bowe ,Ginn or Jarrett.

I agree. Unfortunately they also need to get an RB since relying on FatDale to step it up is not a smart move. I am not saying White can't/won't step it up, just that it will be be stupid to rely on it.

Why is that not a smart move?

Because he has yet to show he can do it. As a Titan's fan are you confident enough with him that you want to see the Titan's rely on him as their RB #1 for this season? I sure wouldn't wish that on my favorite team.

Barring a trade of a 2nd rounder for Julius Jones or Michael TUrner, then "yes" I am confident he can do a good job. Furthermore, Chris Brown still doesn't have a job and remains an option.If I were a Bears fan, I'd be confident that Benson will be a good #1 as well.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

I just have this sick feeling in my gut that Ginn will be nothing more than a Dante Hall. Not that he isn't / wasn't a good KR/PR, but that is ALL he was. I can't possibly justify using a first round pick on that. I've seen nothing that makes me think he'll be of any credible long term value as a WR. If the Titans do go WR, I'd much rather see Meachem or even Bowe.

In a perfect world, I think the best pick is a DE if one of the top 3/4 is there. Amazingly, I've seen several mocks with Anderson still available at 19. I highly doubt that will be the case but if it is I don't see how -- an any conceivable way -- the Titans could pass on him at that point. Moss -- just don't know if he can handle the run well enough. Don't know much about Anthony Spencer.

CB -- only if they can get Hall, Houston, Revis or Ross.

I like the trade down in the first and up in the second approach. Could probably get both Houston (or Ross) AND Bowe if they did that.

Dear God in heaven, please don't let the Titans take Ginn.

 

[Bevo]

bottom line is the Titans have to get a WR for Young..be it Bowe ,Ginn or Jarrett.

I agree. Unfortunately they also need to get an RB since relying on FatDale to step it up is not a smart move. I am not saying White can't/won't step it up, just that it will be be stupid to rely on it.

Why is that not a smart move?

Because he has yet to show he can do it. As a Titan's fan are you confident enough with him that you want to see the Titan's rely on him as their RB #1 for this season? I sure wouldn't wish that on my favorite team.

Barring a trade of a 2nd rounder for Julius Jones or Michael TUrner, then "yes" I am confident he can do a good job. Furthermore, Chris Brown still doesn't have a job and remains an option.If I were a Bears fan, I'd be confident that Benson will be a good #1 as well.

As somewhat of a Titan's fan I hope you are right but I am not very confident at all in White being the answer. As to the others you mention I will point out that if they show up on the team then the Titan's are not relying on White and therefore it has nothing to do with what I said.

 

[bigreese82]

CB -- only if they can get Hall, Houston, Revis or Ross. I like the trade down in the first and up in the second approach. Could probably get both Houston (or Ross) AND Bowe if they did that.

 

[bigreese82]

A quick thought...if teams are going to primarily play zone against the Titans( to help contain VY), who is the better WR choice. A speedster like Ginn or more of a possesion guy who runs good routes like a Jarrett?

 

[waylander]

I'd have to say the guy who can get behind the zone the fastest. And I'm thinking that is Ginn.

Also, what about Quinten Moses? He had a #### year, but before that he was first round talent. I bet he could be had in the third or later, any chance we look at him?

 

[bigreese82]

I've heard coaches say they want players that can "stretch the zone" and also heard coaches say they need good route runners like Harrison who can "find holes in a zone"...don't know which is better for VY though.

 

[Bevo]

I've heard coaches say they want players that can "stretch the zone" and also heard coaches say they need good route runners like Harrison who can "find holes in a zone"...don't know which is better for VY though.

I don't know either, but at this point in time ANY type of potential WR #1 is a huge upgrade over what he has to work with.Right now there can't be many QBs in the league that have less decent (or better) skill position players to work with than Vince. The cupboard is nearly empty. I keep hoping to hear that they get a deal made for Turner.

 

[ltaylor]

If Lynch is there at RB you have to think long and hard. I personally think WR is a lower priority than CB or DE. Running QBs like Young do not need a stud WR and at this stage in career young could not produce an 80 catch WR regardless of his taltent level. So my personal opinion is that I hope that the FO will slect the BPA out of DE, CB, WR, or Lynch. My personaly preference is :

Hall

Anderson

Lynch

Carriker

Houston

Meacham

Then the rest

 

[Colin Dowling]

If Lynch is there at RB you have to think long and hard. I personally think WR is a lower priority than CB or DE. Running QBs like Young do not need a stud WR and at this stage in career young could not produce an 80 catch WR regardless of his taltent level. So my personal opinion is that I hope that the FO will slect the BPA out of DE, CB, WR, or Lynch. My personaly preference is :HallAndersonLynchCarrikerHoustonMeachamThen the rest

pUT rEVIS in front of Carriker for me and I like your list.

 

[sho nuff]

Like what was mentioned previously, Ginn can score any time the ball is in his hand. I don't think the other first round talent WR's have that same quality.

Agreed. That said, Robert Meachem is as good in the open field as any WR I can remember in recent years.

I completely disagree and think Meachem has all the makings of a 1st round bust.He never impressed me on the field at UT and seems to have risen his stock too much IMO with his combine.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Like what was mentioned previously, Ginn can score any time the ball is in his hand. I don't think the other first round talent WR's have that same quality.

Agreed. That said, Robert Meachem is as good in the open field as any WR I can remember in recent years.

I completely disagree and think Meachem has all the makings of a 1st round bust.He never impressed me on the field at UT and seems to have risen his stock too much IMO with his combine.

He was WICKED this season. If he made it to the open field, it was off to the races. 18.3ypr

 

[King of the Jungle]

VY dynasty owner here - PLEASE do not take Ginn!!

I agree with this. Gonzalez put up almost identical stats receiving as Ginn last year (with a higher avg per catch). I do think Ginn will be a asset in the return game, but I have many doubts of him becoming a #1 WR in a NFL offense. Speed kills, but you have many other factors that determine whether you will succeed at the next level. I just don't see many of the other traits (route running, hands, ability to read the defense, blocking, getting away from the jam...) being more than average.

Won't his rookie year in the NFL be only his fourth year playing WR? If he is already as good as Gonzalez, who I am assuming has played WR for most of his football career, then I think Ginn would have more upside.

I don't think being as good as a glorified Mike Furrey is saying much IMO. BTW, I am still waiting for Jerry Porter to learn the position and play up to his potential.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Like what was mentioned previously, Ginn can score any time the ball is in his hand. I don't think the other first round talent WR's have that same quality.

Agreed. That said, Robert Meachem is as good in the open field as any WR I can remember in recent years.

I completely disagree and think Meachem has all the makings of a 1st round bust.He never impressed me on the field at UT and seems to have risen his stock too much IMO with his combine.

He was WICKED this season. If he made it to the open field, it was off to the races. 18.3ypr

Can anyone find any video on MEACHEM?

 

[mtffl2]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...yer&p=86675

here's one i found... after seeing him, i hope that we don't get him. he looks like he may be good if the defenders just keep missing tackles. his constant injuries scare me too

 

[5Rings]

I will fall over if they pass on Revis, Hall, or Anderson to take a WR, but if they do, I hope it is Ginn. I think Meachem is much better, and Bowe is probably on par, but Ginn brings some things to the table they need. Namely, he can return kicks (which is a very underrated part of the game). I think Jones is on his way up and Roby/Williams are not lost causes.

What about David Givens?

 

[mtffl2]

check out Bowe in his video.... i didn't realize he played so strong. he doesn't back down from a hit.

 

[King of the Jungle]

check out Bowe in his video.... i didn't realize he played so strong. he doesn't back down from a hit.

That's what I'm talk'in bout. Dude is angry.

 

[-OZ-]

I will fall over if they pass on Revis, Hall, or Anderson to take a WR, but if they do, I hope it is Ginn. I think Meachem is much better, and Bowe is probably on par, but Ginn brings some things to the table they need. Namely, he can return kicks (which is a very underrated part of the game). I think Jones is on his way up and Roby/Williams are not lost causes.

What about David Givens?

Injured, probably not ready for camp, possibly longer. I wouldn't expect much out of him this year.

 

[Colin Dowling]

The Griffin pick definitely addresses a big need, but as soon as Tenn went ont he clock I was thinking that trading for the Browns 2nd and next years 1st would be wise. Based on all the rumors (turner, BMW, being in a good spot to trade out of rd 1 to Cleveland) if the end of FDay 1 comes with 3 selections made in their natural spots, I will be disappointed.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Puke on the Henry pick.

I am SO hoping that Tennessee is drafting for the Chargers. Griffin + Henry + 08 1st rounder for Turner, Bowe, and Weddel would be fine.

I can not believe taht the best the new GM could do is assemble a board where Chris Henry is the best choice when Steve Smith and Tim Crowder are still available. This is not good.

If the Titans truly want Griffin and Henry on their team, I would offer a 4th right now for Randy Moss and a 5th for Mike Williams.

This is not going well. At all.

 

[RnR]