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Titans finally reveal what's going on in Nashville (1 Viewer)

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Thursday, 03/08/07

'We have a plan,' calm Fisher says

Slow in free agency, Titans not nervous

By JIM WYATT

Staff Writer

His workhorse running back from a year ago is now with the Denver Broncos.

His top two receivers from 2006 have also moved on, signing free agent deals in other cities because the money was far better than what was offered in Tennessee.

Meanwhile, the status of his star cornerback and return man remains unclear because of off-the-field issues, something the NFL could step in and suspend him for at some point.

Still, Titans Coach Jeff Fisher said things aren't as bad as they might seem. On Wednesday night, he certainly didn't sound like a man panicking, even though Titans fans everywhere seem a bit nervous.

"It is really pretty simple,'' Fisher said. "It is subtraction and it is addition. So when you're down three, people are saying, 'What are you doing?' The perception may be we are spinning our wheels and we're getting caught off-guard here.

"Well, that is not the case. We have a plan.''

Since free agency opened Friday, the Titans have lost Travis Henry (Broncos), Drew Bennett (Rams) and Bobby Wade (Vikings) without making a move of their own. Pacman Jones has once again been in the news for all the wrong reasons.

On Wednesday, there was some positive news. Eagles receiver Donte Stallworth visited Baptist Sports Park to meet with team officials, along with Lions cornerback Jamar Fletcher.

Two more players are scheduled to visit today — Colts cornerback Nick Harper and Cowboys linebacker Ryan Fowler, a restricted free agent, according to the players' agents. Bears receiver Justin Gage is expected to visit in the coming days as well, and the team is interested in Rams receiver Kevin Curtis.

The Titans have been in communication with Buffalo about back Willis McGahee, who the Bills are shopping. The Titans are interested in trading for McGahee, but others are interested, and the Ravens are considered the front-runner to land him. Fisher wouldn't comment on the players scheduled to visit, or talk about the team's interest in McGahee.

Not so bad off

Despite the subtractions, Fisher said his team is better off than most fans might think. He is counting on youngsters like running back LenDale White and receiver Brandon Jones to step up.

"We have a good core,'' Fisher said. "We were interested in keeping (Henry, Bennett and Wade), but it was a money situation and what we are not going to do is put ourselves in a position three or four years from now where we have to (go through salary cap problems) all over again. We are not going to do that.

"We have a good core of young players on our roster like LenDale and Brandon and the rest of the receivers, so we are in a good situation right now. In free agency there is a second tier that is really exciting and intriguing and it's going to be a good draft. We are not in a situation where we are in dire need of doing something right now. We are going to make prudent decisions based on need and based on people available.''

Fisher said there's been good communication between everyone in the front office, from COO Steve Underwood to General Manager Mike Reinfeldt, and "we are all on the same page.''

When the team completes it's plan, Fisher vowed the Titans "will be a better team'' than the one that finished 8-8 last season.

The team's visits with Stallworth and Fletcher went well, according to Fisher, and the team will remain in communication with both players. Stallworth is scheduled to visit the Dolphins on Thursday.

Early Wednesday, one national report indicated Colts running back Dominic Rhodes was scheduled to visit Tennessee later this week as well, but Rhodes' agent said while he's been in communication with the Titans, no visit had been set up. While the Titans are interested in another back to fill the void left by Henry, White's clearly on the spot.

"We drafted LenDale to be the future, so we have options,'' Fisher said. "We feel we got the most out of Travis. We feel Travis has a number of good years ahead, but from a cost standpoint (signing him) would have affected other positions and keep us from being able to do what we want to do.''

Henry signed a deal with $12 million in guarantees in Denver; the Titans were offering $8 million.

Harper, a starter on Indianapolis' Super Bowl team, was the team's top cornerback in 2006, finishing with 73 tackles and three interceptions. He's a six-year veteran who's recorded 15 interceptions in his career.

When he visits today, he'll be the second cornerback to meet with the team in as many days. Fisher said the uncertainty surrounding Jones has nothing to do with the team's interest in acquiring another cornerback, or two.

"Had these incidents not occurred with Pac, we would have still gone through this process (with the cornerbacks),'' Fisher said. "You can never have enough depth at the corner position and that is what we are doing. In '99, the only team that had more depth than we did at cornerback was the Rams (who won the Super Bowl).

"We have an up and coming player in Cortland (Finnegan) and a proven starter in Reynaldo (Hill). We are just in a financial position to help ourselves from a depth standpoint, and we have a great deal of respect for both players.''

At linebacker, Fowler played in 16 games for the Cowboys last season. He's a middle linebacker who's also received interest from the Eagles, and could visit Philadelphia on Friday. Since he's a restricted free agent, the Cowboys would have a right to match any offer sheet. Fowler was an undrafted free agent in 2004.

"I wouldn't be surprised that after these two trips there could be more,'' agent Alan Herman said. "The Cowboys could still match the deal, but my sense is once you have two there could be more.''

Also on Wednesday, running back Chris Brown visited the Bills and is scheduled to travel to Detroit today. The Titans continue to talk to Brown's agents about potentially re-signing him as well, while the Packers are also interested.

 
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I will pass out at in my chair if they get 2 of 3 between Stallworth, Harper, Rhodes/McGahee.

With 9 picks this season, I suspect that they can outbid the Ravens for McGahee if they want.

 
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I will pass out at in my chair if they get 2 of 3 between Stallworth, Harper, Rhodes/McGahee.With 9 picks this season, I suspect that they can outbid the Ravens for McGahee if they want.
I will throw up in my mouth if the Titans trade a pick for McGahee, which will then necessitate re-signing him to a big deal. McGahee is a below average RB, and has big attitude problems to boot. no thanks. I would rather have Rhodes every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
 
I could possibly be reading too much into nothing....but as a lowly Lions fan....the snippet in the story about Chris Brown scheduled to visit Detroit makes me wonder if the Lions know something about Kevin Jones that they are not letting out of the bag. Possibly, they are interested in moving Bell at some point....but it could also mean that they know KJ is going to be out for an extended period of time.

 
I could possibly be reading too much into nothing....but as a lowly Lions fan....the snippet in the story about Chris Brown scheduled to visit Detroit makes me wonder if the Lions know something about Kevin Jones that they are not letting out of the bag. Possibly, they are interested in moving Bell at some point....but it could also mean that they know KJ is going to be out for an extended period of time.
Good point. Everyone is assuming KJ will be fine but the team and it's doctor's know best. If they've already got one RB and are scheduling visits with others it is curious.
 
I could possibly be reading too much into nothing....but as a lowly Lions fan....the snippet in the story about Chris Brown scheduled to visit Detroit makes me wonder if the Lions know something about Kevin Jones that they are not letting out of the bag. Possibly, they are interested in moving Bell at some point....but it could also mean that they know KJ is going to be out for an extended period of time.
Good point. Everyone is assuming KJ will be fine but the team and it's doctor's know best. If they've already got one RB and are scheduling visits with others it is curious.
Couldn't agree more. Its confusing the crap out of me.
 
I'm just glad to see them doing something... even if they aren't signing anyone, it's good to see someone visiting!!!!

the patriots offered stallworth a six-year, $32 million deal. i don't think he is worth that much so i doubt we will get him.

i'd like to see willis "the best rb in the nfl" mcgahee in nashville....

 
I will pass out at in my chair if they get 2 of 3 between Stallworth, Harper, Rhodes/McGahee.

With 9 picks this season, I suspect that they can outbid the Ravens for McGahee if they want.
I will throw up in my mouth if the Titans trade a pick for McGahee, which will then necessitate re-signing him to a big deal. McGahee is a below average RB, and has big attitude problems to boot. no thanks. I would rather have Rhodes every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Yes, he has attitude problems. No argument there, but if we ever see Willis on a decent offense, you'll change your mind rather quickly.The $$ is an issue, but the Titans can handle it if they so choose.

 
I wonder if there is way we trade for McGahee and don't immediately restructure his deal...maybe see who is the running back they truly want...him or Lendale. If McGahee performs and is not a distraction, then resign him...if not let him walk or trade him again

 
http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl...395/1002/SPORTS

Thursday, 03/08/07

'We have a plan,' calm Fisher says

Slow in free agency, Titans not nervous

By JIM WYATT

Staff Writer

His workhorse running back from a year ago is now with the Denver Broncos.

His top two receivers from 2006 have also moved on, signing free agent deals in other cities because the money was far better than what was offered in Tennessee.

Meanwhile, the status of his star cornerback and return man remains unclear because of off-the-field issues, something the NFL could step in and suspend him for at some point.

Still, Titans Coach Jeff Fisher said things aren't as bad as they might seem. On Wednesday night, he certainly didn't sound like a man panicking, even though Titans fans everywhere seem a bit nervous.

"It is really pretty simple,'' Fisher said. "It is subtraction and it is addition. So when you're down three, people are saying, 'What are you doing?' The perception may be we are spinning our wheels and we're getting caught off-guard here.

"Well, that is not the case. We have a plan.''

Since free agency opened Friday, the Titans have lost Travis Henry (Broncos), Drew Bennett (Rams) and Bobby Wade (Vikings) without making a move of their own. Pacman Jones has once again been in the news for all the wrong reasons.

On Wednesday, there was some positive news. Eagles receiver Donte Stallworth visited Baptist Sports Park to meet with team officials, along with Lions cornerback Jamar Fletcher.

Two more players are scheduled to visit today — Colts cornerback Nick Harper and Cowboys linebacker Ryan Fowler, a restricted free agent, according to the players' agents. Bears receiver Justin Gage is expected to visit in the coming days as well, and the team is interested in Rams receiver Kevin Curtis.

The Titans have been in communication with Buffalo about back Willis McGahee, who the Bills are shopping. The Titans are interested in trading for McGahee, but others are interested, and the Ravens are considered the front-runner to land him. Fisher wouldn't comment on the players scheduled to visit, or talk about the team's interest in McGahee.

Not so bad off

Despite the subtractions, Fisher said his team is better off than most fans might think. He is counting on youngsters like running back LenDale White and receiver Brandon Jones to step up.

"We have a good core,'' Fisher said. "We were interested in keeping (Henry, Bennett and Wade), but it was a money situation and what we are not going to do is put ourselves in a position three or four years from now where we have to (go through salary cap problems) all over again. We are not going to do that.

"We have a good core of young players on our roster like LenDale and Brandon and the rest of the receivers, so we are in a good situation right now. In free agency there is a second tier that is really exciting and intriguing and it's going to be a good draft. We are not in a situation where we are in dire need of doing something right now. We are going to make prudent decisions based on need and based on people available.''

Fisher said there's been good communication between everyone in the front office, from COO Steve Underwood to General Manager Mike Reinfeldt, and "we are all on the same page.''

When the team completes it's plan, Fisher vowed the Titans "will be a better team'' than the one that finished 8-8 last season.

The team's visits with Stallworth and Fletcher went well, according to Fisher, and the team will remain in communication with both players. Stallworth is scheduled to visit the Dolphins on Thursday.

Early Wednesday, one national report indicated Colts running back Dominic Rhodes was scheduled to visit Tennessee later this week as well, but Rhodes' agent said while he's been in communication with the Titans, no visit had been set up. While the Titans are interested in another back to fill the void left by Henry, White's clearly on the spot.

"We drafted LenDale to be the future, so we have options,'' Fisher said. "We feel we got the most out of Travis. We feel Travis has a number of good years ahead, but from a cost standpoint (signing him) would have affected other positions and keep us from being able to do what we want to do.''

Henry signed a deal with $12 million in guarantees in Denver; the Titans were offering $8 million.

Harper, a starter on Indianapolis' Super Bowl team, was the team's top cornerback in 2006, finishing with 73 tackles and three interceptions. He's a six-year veteran who's recorded 15 interceptions in his career.

When he visits today, he'll be the second cornerback to meet with the team in as many days. Fisher said the uncertainty surrounding Jones has nothing to do with the team's interest in acquiring another cornerback, or two.

"Had these incidents not occurred with Pac, we would have still gone through this process (with the cornerbacks),'' Fisher said. "You can never have enough depth at the corner position and that is what we are doing. In '99, the only team that had more depth than we did at cornerback was the Rams (who won the Super Bowl).

"We have an up and coming player in Cortland (Finnegan) and a proven starter in Reynaldo (Hill). We are just in a financial position to help ourselves from a depth standpoint, and we have a great deal of respect for both players.''

At linebacker, Fowler played in 16 games for the Cowboys last season. He's a middle linebacker who's also received interest from the Eagles, and could visit Philadelphia on Friday. Since he's a restricted free agent, the Cowboys would have a right to match any offer sheet. Fowler was an undrafted free agent in 2004.

"I wouldn't be surprised that after these two trips there could be more,'' agent Alan Herman said. "The Cowboys could still match the deal, but my sense is once you have two there could be more.''

Also on Wednesday, running back Chris Brown visited the Bills and is scheduled to travel to Detroit today. The Titans continue to talk to Brown's agents about potentially re-signing him as well, while the Packers are also interested.
2nd tier? Might as well throw up the white flag. Last season at this time they had the McNair debacle, Fisher was on his way out of TN...things were not good. They drafted Young, got off to a terrible start but finished strong...real strong. Maybe the owner thinks he can beat the odds twice but the Titans were one of the teams that were $35 million+ under the salary cap...you have to try and keep your guys when you have money to spend. And it isn't like they went out and signed some of the top tier FA at the OL position or any position for that matter.Might be another very lackluster season for TN, and maybe Fisher will want out after all.

 
I wonder if there is way we trade for McGahee and don't immediately restructure his deal...maybe see who is the running back they truly want...him or Lendale. If McGahee performs and is not a distraction, then resign him...if not let him walk or trade him again
They just did that with Henry.
 
In free agency there is a second tier that is really exciting and intriguing and it's going to be a good draft. We are not in a situation where we are in dire need of doing something right now.

"We drafted LenDale to be the future, so we have options,'' Fisher said.
I can see the Titans signing a second tier free agent like TJ Duckett, Kevan Barlow, or Anthony Thomas. Maybe a guy like Corey Dillon if he gets off his "east coast" team requirement. Perhaps even Reuben Droughns if he gets cut.
 
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In free agency there is a second tier that is really exciting and intriguing and it's going to be a good draft. We are not in a situation where we are in dire need of doing something right now.

"We drafted LenDale to be the future, so we have options,'' Fisher said.
I can see the Titans signing a second tier free agent like TJ Duckett, Kevan Barlow, or Anthony Thomas. Maybe a guy like Corey Dillon if he gets off his "east coast" team requirement. Perhaps even Reuben Droughns if he gets cut.
They need two more RBs on the roster, actually. They need a guy who can do 15-20 carries a game if needbe, a la a Duckett or Barlow. They also need someone who can pass-block, run draw plays, and catch the occassional pass. This is traditionally thought of as a 3rd down back, but in this case, it isn't Ahrmad Hall was one of the most overlooked rookies last season and is well on his way to handling the "3rd down pass-block and 1 yard dive" duties. My point is the Titans could grab a shifty Kevin Faulk / Lorenzo Booker type as the 4th Rb and I'd be cool with it.Lendale

Duckett

Hall

Booker

..would be a nice group.

 
I'm very happy Tennessee hasn't splurged on average talent this offseason. Fisher is exactly right .. no point getting tied down with big salaries unless they are marquee players. Their young core needs to step up. Getting Harper or some cheap vets is the only thing they should consider.

 
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I'm very happy Tennessee hasn't splurged on average talent this offseason. Fisher is exactly right .. no point getting tied down with big salaries unless they are marquee players. Their young core needs to step up. Getting Harper or some cheap vets is the only thing they should consider.
:lmao:Don't forget, at this time last year the Titans hadn't signed anyone. They let Hartwig walk for a huge contract with the Panthers, that is even more laughable now, than it was then and a couple of other key guys walk. They ended up with four solid guys who were young and filled needs, and two other depth guys (Robaire and Collins) who were cheap. By all accounts, when all was said and done, I think most Titans fans were pleased with how last offseason ended up.
 
I could possibly be reading too much into nothing....but as a lowly Lions fan....the snippet in the story about Chris Brown scheduled to visit Detroit makes me wonder if the Lions know something about Kevin Jones that they are not letting out of the bag. Possibly, they are interested in moving Bell at some point....but it could also mean that they know KJ is going to be out for an extended period of time.
Good point. Everyone is assuming KJ will be fine but the team and it's doctor's know best. If they've already got one RB and are scheduling visits with others it is curious.
A similar thing happened with Priest Holmes when they draft LJ, it turned out ok
 
http://nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cfm?se...p;news_id=55060

Titans may be Harper’s top choice

By Terry McCormick, tmccormick@nashvillecitypaper.com

March 09, 2007

Indianapolis Colts free agent cornerback Nick Harper apparently has no more visits scheduled with other teams after meeting Thursday with the Tennessee Titans, according to a source.

That could mean that the Titans are potentially No. 1 on his list of destinations, especially given Tennessee’s unsettled situation at cornerback.

The Titans have been in the market for a veteran cornerback, and the uncertainty of whether Adam “Pacman” Jones will be available due to on-going legal issues is a potential concern as well and could make the position even more of a need area.

The Titans also entertained restricted free agent Ryan Fowler, a linebacker from the Dallas Cowboys on Thursday.

The Titans are also believed to have made an offer for free agent wide receiver Donte Stallworth, who visited the team on Wednesday.

What that offer might contain is not certain, but Stallworth could emerge as the Titans’ top target among free agent receivers. Tennessee has interest in St. Louis Rams free agent receiver Kevin Curtis, but he is without an agent.

Curtis visited Philadelphia on Thursday and will stay into Friday as well as the Eagles look to take the lead in landing him.

Meanwhile, a couple of veteran defensive lineman could be of interest to the Titans.

Speculation had centered on veteran defensive tackle Jeff Zgonina and the Titans potentially having some in each other. Zgonina visited the Houston Texans on Thursday.

Also, the Seattle Seahawks released defensive end Grant Wistrom on Thursday. The Titans have a couple of connections with Wistrom. Titans general manager Mike Reinfeldt knows Wistrom from his days in Seattle, and Tennessee defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch was a former college teammate of Wistrom at Nebraska. Wistrom, considered a high character guy, could return to Seattle after testing the market.

As for the Titans’ running back situation, some dominos around the league began to fall into place Thursday as Jamal Lewis signed with the Cleveland Browns and Willis McGahee was traded from Buffalo to Baltimore.

The Titans had no interest in Lewis and apparently made only a modest run at McGahee.

Chris Brown could still return, though he has been busy the past two days visiting with the Buffalo Bills and Detroit Lions.

“Right now, after our visits, I would say that Buffalo and Detroit are the front-runners. I don’t really know what is going on with Tennessee,” Brown’s agent Ryan Morgan said.

Also, Browns running back Reuben Droughns is expected to be released, according to the NFL Network.

 
I could possibly be reading too much into nothing....but as a lowly Lions fan....the snippet in the story about Chris Brown scheduled to visit Detroit makes me wonder if the Lions know something about Kevin Jones that they are not letting out of the bag. Possibly, they are interested in moving Bell at some point....but it could also mean that they know KJ is going to be out for an extended period of time.
Good point. Everyone is assuming KJ will be fine but the team and it's doctor's know best. If they've already got one RB and are scheduling visits with others it is curious.
Couldn't agree more. Its confusing the crap out of me.
You're confused because the team that drafted three WR's in the first round in three consecutive years is acquiring multiple RB's? :wub:
 
HArper would be a nice signing indeed. If they landed Stallworth, Wistrom, and Harper, that would be an excellent haul.
I'm not sure I agree with you regarding Stallworth or Wistrom. Stallworth is always an injury concern. Would you be willing to bet if he plays 16 games? and Wistrom at this point in his career would probably only see the field in obvious passing situations. If they can get them cheap, then yes it's a good signing, but I doubt they'll come cheap.
 
HArper would be a nice signing indeed. If they landed Stallworth, Wistrom, and Harper, that would be an excellent haul.
I'm not sure I agree with you regarding Stallworth or Wistrom. Stallworth is always an injury concern. Would you be willing to bet if he plays 16 games? and Wistrom at this point in his career would probably only see the field in obvious passing situations. If they can get them cheap, then yes it's a good signing, but I doubt they'll come cheap.
How is Stallworth an injury concern? He's appeared in 68 or 80 career games.
 
Colin Dowling said:
brednbuddah said:
Colin Dowling said:
HArper would be a nice signing indeed. If they landed Stallworth, Wistrom, and Harper, that would be an excellent haul.
I'm not sure I agree with you regarding Stallworth or Wistrom. Stallworth is always an injury concern. Would you be willing to bet if he plays 16 games? and Wistrom at this point in his career would probably only see the field in obvious passing situations. If they can get them cheap, then yes it's a good signing, but I doubt they'll come cheap.
How is Stallworth an injury concern? He's appeared in 68 or 80 career games.
Which one is it? 68 or 80? :hey:
 
Colin Dowling said:
brednbuddah said:
Colin Dowling said:
HArper would be a nice signing indeed. If they landed Stallworth, Wistrom, and Harper, that would be an excellent haul.
I'm not sure I agree with you regarding Stallworth or Wistrom. Stallworth is always an injury concern. Would you be willing to bet if he plays 16 games? and Wistrom at this point in his career would probably only see the field in obvious passing situations. If they can get them cheap, then yes it's a good signing, but I doubt they'll come cheap.
How is Stallworth an injury concern? He's appeared in 68 or 80 career games.
I think people are such sheep just repeating what they hear. Stallworth played in 16 games in both 2004 and 2005. He missed 4 games last year but none after week 7 and played in 2 playoff games. Stallworth is a big play threat that stretches the field. Therefore, he is not going to catch 80 balls a year. However, 60 catches for 1100-1200 games should be right up his alley and is not even his ceiling.
 
Colin Dowling said:
brednbuddah said:
Colin Dowling said:
HArper would be a nice signing indeed. If they landed Stallworth, Wistrom, and Harper, that would be an excellent haul.
I'm not sure I agree with you regarding Stallworth or Wistrom. Stallworth is always an injury concern. Would you be willing to bet if he plays 16 games? and Wistrom at this point in his career would probably only see the field in obvious passing situations. If they can get them cheap, then yes it's a good signing, but I doubt they'll come cheap.
How is Stallworth an injury concern? He's appeared in 68 or 80 career games.
I think people are such sheep just repeating what they hear. Stallworth played in 16 games in both 2004 and 2005. He missed 4 games last year but none after week 7 and played in 2 playoff games. Stallworth is a big play threat that stretches the field. Therefore, he is not going to catch 80 balls a year. However, 60 catches for 1100-1200 games should be right up his alley and is not even his ceiling.
back to reality gentlemen...Donte Stallworth has only played in 85% of his games for his career. In the seasons where he actually played 16 games, he's failed to reach 1000 yards, has a pedestrian 70 receptions as a career high and yet to reach double-digit TDs. :goodposting: not exactly the kind of production you'd expect out of the contract he'll wind up signing and that's keeping your fingers crossed that you'll get a full season out of him.year tm gms rec yds avg tds 2002 nor 13 42 594 14.1 8 2003 nor 11 25 485 19.4 3 2004 nor 16 58 767 13.2 5 2005 nor 16 70 945 13.5 7 2006 phi 12 38 725 19.1 5
 
Colin Dowling said:
brednbuddah said:
Colin Dowling said:
HArper would be a nice signing indeed. If they landed Stallworth, Wistrom, and Harper, that would be an excellent haul.
I'm not sure I agree with you regarding Stallworth or Wistrom. Stallworth is always an injury concern. Would you be willing to bet if he plays 16 games? and Wistrom at this point in his career would probably only see the field in obvious passing situations. If they can get them cheap, then yes it's a good signing, but I doubt they'll come cheap.
How is Stallworth an injury concern? He's appeared in 68 or 80 career games.
I think people are such sheep just repeating what they hear. Stallworth played in 16 games in both 2004 and 2005. He missed 4 games last year but none after week 7 and played in 2 playoff games. Stallworth is a big play threat that stretches the field. Therefore, he is not going to catch 80 balls a year. However, 60 catches for 1100-1200 games should be right up his alley and is not even his ceiling.
back to reality gentlemen...Donte Stallworth has only played in 85% of his games for his career. In the seasons where he actually played 16 games, he's failed to reach 1000 yards, has a pedestrian 70 receptions as a career high and yet to reach double-digit TDs. :yes: not exactly the kind of production you'd expect out of the contract he'll wind up signing and that's keeping your fingers crossed that you'll get a full season out of him.year tm gms rec yds avg tds 2002 nor 13 42 594 14.1 8 2003 nor 11 25 485 19.4 3 2004 nor 16 58 767 13.2 5 2005 nor 16 70 945 13.5 7 2006 phi 12 38 725 19.1 5
85% of his career regular season games is bad?
 
Colin Dowling said:
brednbuddah said:
Colin Dowling said:
HArper would be a nice signing indeed. If they landed Stallworth, Wistrom, and Harper, that would be an excellent haul.
I'm not sure I agree with you regarding Stallworth or Wistrom. Stallworth is always an injury concern. Would you be willing to bet if he plays 16 games? and Wistrom at this point in his career would probably only see the field in obvious passing situations. If they can get them cheap, then yes it's a good signing, but I doubt they'll come cheap.
How is Stallworth an injury concern? He's appeared in 68 or 80 career games.
I think people are such sheep just repeating what they hear. Stallworth played in 16 games in both 2004 and 2005. He missed 4 games last year but none after week 7 and played in 2 playoff games. Stallworth is a big play threat that stretches the field. Therefore, he is not going to catch 80 balls a year. However, 60 catches for 1100-1200 games should be right up his alley and is not even his ceiling.
back to reality gentlemen...Donte Stallworth has only played in 85% of his games for his career. In the seasons where he actually played 16 games, he's failed to reach 1000 yards, has a pedestrian 70 receptions as a career high and yet to reach double-digit TDs. :yes: not exactly the kind of production you'd expect out of the contract he'll wind up signing and that's keeping your fingers crossed that you'll get a full season out of him.year tm gms rec yds avg tds 2002 nor 13 42 594 14.1 8 2003 nor 11 25 485 19.4 3 2004 nor 16 58 767 13.2 5 2005 nor 16 70 945 13.5 7 2006 phi 12 38 725 19.1 5
85% of his career regular season games is bad?
 
85% of his career regular season games is bad?

(don't know what happened with that last reply)

I'll put it to you this way, would you lay out the amount of cash it would take to lease an exotic sports car for a year if you knew up front it would only run 15% of the time?

 
85% of his career regular season games is bad?
(don't know what happened with that last reply)I'll put it to you this way, would you lay out the amount of cash it would take to lease an exotic sports car for a year if you knew up front it would only run 85% of the time?
Fixed.Now what about the rest of the FA WRs makes you believe they will never miss a single game for the rest of their careers?

The hamstrings are worrisome, as is the leak about the substance abuse (which I think came from Philly to lower demand). Patriots deal was 6 years 32m - not sure how much in the first three and how much guaranteed. That is about 5.3 per year, compared with Bennett's 4.5 and Northcutts 3.4. Over the likely run of the contract it is probably even closer.

That does not sound so bad...

 
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85% of his career regular season games is bad?
(don't know what happened with that last reply)I'll put it to you this way, would you lay out the amount of cash it would take to lease an exotic sports car for a year if you knew up front it would only run 85% of the time?
Fixed.Now what about the rest of the FA WRs makes you believe they will never miss a single game for the rest of their careers?

The hamstrings are worrisome, as is the leak about the substance abuse (which I think came from Philly to lower demand). Patriots deal was 6 years 32m - not sure how much in the first three and how much guaranteed. That is about 5.3 per year, compared with Bennett's 4.5 and Northcutts 3.4. Over the likely run of the contract it is probably even closer.

That does not sound so bad...
(thanks for clearing that mess up - including my mistake)point taken.

yes, I don't have a crystal ball, but I do have the track record for Stallworth and that track record is shaky at best. The guys you mention have played 90% of their games for their longer careers than Stallworth. One could argue Bennett has only had one great season and Northcutt stinks all together, so I'm not saying they're better than Stallworth, just a bit more dependable.

I think, whoever signs Stallworth, is getting a high risk, (almost) high reward player.

 
I think we see the emergence of a new name to split carries this year with LenDale White...ala Corey Dillon. We could get him for the right price and he still has a year or 2 left and certainly has the leadership skills Fisher likes.

 
85% of his career regular season games is bad?
(don't know what happened with that last reply)I'll put it to you this way, would you lay out the amount of cash it would take to lease an exotic sports car for a year if you knew up front it would only run 85% of the time?
Fixed.Now what about the rest of the FA WRs makes you believe they will never miss a single game for the rest of their careers?

The hamstrings are worrisome, as is the leak about the substance abuse (which I think came from Philly to lower demand). Patriots deal was 6 years 32m - not sure how much in the first three and how much guaranteed. That is about 5.3 per year, compared with Bennett's 4.5 and Northcutts 3.4. Over the likely run of the contract it is probably even closer.

That does not sound so bad...
(thanks for clearing that mess up - including my mistake)point taken.

yes, I don't have a crystal ball, but I do have the track record for Stallworth and that track record is shaky at best. The guys you mention have played 90% of their games for their longer careers than Stallworth. One could argue Bennett has only had one great season and Northcutt stinks all together, so I'm not saying they're better than Stallworth, just a bit more dependable.

I think, whoever signs Stallworth, is getting a high risk, (almost) high reward player.
I agree - I wouldn't mind that team to be the Titans (just hope their trainers are top notch :goodposting: )
 
Mute point on Stallworth now.

I do, however, think Kevin Curtis would be a nice addition :bye: and eventually an upgrade over Drew "hands of steel" Bennett :wall: . I also like Maurice Hicks for depth at RB and Wistrom if he comes at the right price.

I actually like the way the Titans are approaching FA this year...Wade is the only one I hate losing at this stage, but even his cost was a bit high considering risk/reward.

 
I also like Maurice Hicks for depth at RB
He's a restricted free agent for SF, they'd have to part with a draft pick in trade.
Hicks received the lowest tender ($ 850,000) and since he was undrafted, there is no compensation. (At least according to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel)
I stand corrected. No compensation since he was undrafted.Teams could place a low tender on a RFA, which meant that if another team signed the player to an offer sheet, the original team could match it or receive a draft pick matching the round in which the player entered the league.

Maurice Hicks

NFL: Undrafted

 
Still waiting to see this "plan" they have... :shrug:
:blackdot:
Their plan appears to be to do nothing....
You guys just don't get it...The plan is to NOT overspend on over-priced, over-hyped (some injury prone) players that will throw the team into salary cap HELL...One that would again cause a huge player purge (see postseason 2004). Then, when the market cools a bit, grab some value players in key slots. Watch it happen!I don't often agree with Peter King of SI, but he nailed it on the suject in today's article here: Titans, Packers wisely keeping cool in free agency

 
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Titans hope Curtis will run by for visit

Speed of receiver catches attention of GM Reinfeldt

By PAUL KUHARSKY

Staff Writer

The Titans are talking to the new agents for St. Louis Rams free agent Kevin Curtis and hoping the wide receiver will plan a visit, General Manager Mike Reinfeldt said.

"What you like about him is his speed," Reinfeldt said. "He's a guy you could start on the outside in regular situations and in passing situations you'd probably move him into the slot, which he did a lot of with the Rams. So he could bring versatility to it, too."

Bruce and Ryan Tollner, Curtis' new agents, were not available for comment.

Curtis visited Philadelphia late last week.

In other developments:

• Reinfeldt said it was difficult to watch wide receiver Donte' Stallworth sign with the New England Patriots.

"We were in that game and I think our offer was actually a better offer," he said. "Given their situation I think he found at this point what he thought a better situation for him.

"Personally I wouldn't agree with that, but we did our best to try to get it done and it didn't happen. There are still some other choices we have."

• Chicago Bears unrestricted free agent receiver Justin Gage was scheduled to arrive in Nashville Monday night and will visit Baptist Sports Park today.

Gage caught just four passes last year after 31 receptions for 346 yards and two touchdowns in 2005. Reinfeldt said the Titans are intrigued by Gage's size — 6-feet-4, 212 pounds.

"He's a big receiver that had some productive years and wasn't as productive last year. Watching him on tape, he's an interesting player."

• Free agent cornerback Nick Harper of Indianapolis has yet to visit anyone but the Titans, but Minnesota and Detroit have recently given him some attention.

"He's contemplating taking some other visits," Reinfeldt said. "We've had some discussions contract-wise with him, but at this point in time we still remain a ways apart, so we'll continue to have discussions."

• Reinfeldt said he expects to acquire a veteran running back to work with second-year man LenDale White.

"We've talked to some people are around the league, there are some players out there," he said. "We've talked to Chris Brown. There are some people out there."

Cowboys running back Julius Jones is reportedly on the market, but Reinfeldt would not speak about him specifically.

"There are guys who are either on the block now, are in the restricted market or will become potential trade opportunities in the future," he said.

• The Titans have 10 picks in the April 28-29 draft, with extra picks in the fourth, sixth and seventh rounds. Reinfeldt indicated it's more likely the Titans would deal a pick.

"I think seven to 10 is abut where you want to be," he said. "I don't think you'd ever want to have less than seven.

"I think if you start getting more than 10 you almost get in a situation where people have to make your roster where maybe they shouldn't. As long as we're within that range I think we'd be OK."

• Not counting Curtis, Reinfeldt said there could be two or three more free agent visitors later in the week.

 
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Tuesday, 03/13/07

Fowler switches to Titans

Agent said LB had picked Eagles

By PAUL KUHARSKY

Staff Writer

Ryan Fowler had a change of heart.

On Sunday, his agent said the restricted free agent linebacker from the Dallas Cowboys would sign an offer sheet with Philadelphia, and the Eagles announced it in an e-mail that afternoon.

After conversations with Titans General Manager Mike Reinfeldt and Coach Jeff Fisher late Sunday, Fowler made a different decision. Monday, the Titans announced he'd signed their offer sheet.

"In theory, we had something agreed upon," Fowler said of the Eagles. "Nothing was ever signed. Things transpired that led me to believe Tennessee was a better fit. … In the sense that I'll have a chance to compete for a starting job, (the Titans) are better. Dallas was a great place. I got a good shot and loved playing here, but starting is the goal."

The Cowboys have until Monday to match Tennessee's offer to Fowler and retain him.

Favorite to start at MLB

Reinfeldt said Fowler rated as a priority to the Titans.

"He's a smart, aggressive middle backer," he said. "He was kind of stuck in a system that's more of a 3-4; he's probably better suited to the 3-4 that we play. I think he's a leader. ... He would just be a good fit for us in a lot of ways."

According to agent Alan Herman, Fowler's package is a four-year deal worth $11.5 million — topping Philly's total over the same time of $10 million. Of the $11.5 million Fowler is slated to make from the Titans, he'd get $5 million in the first year with $4 million of that in bonuses.

That compensation would suggest that while the Titans set up a middle linebacker competition between Fowler and second-year pro Stephen Tulloch — a fourth-round draft pick out of North Carolina State last April — Fowler is the heavy favorite to start.

Tulloch got a $429,000 signing bonus last summer and is slated to earn $360,000 this season.

Cowboys can match

The Titans intentionally front-loaded the deal to try to dissuade Dallas from matching. It would also help use available salary cap dollars now rather than in future years.

"I guess we're hoping that the roles would be different, that he would have a different role here than he would in Dallas," Reinfeldt said. "It's something that makes sense for us and hopefully wouldn't make sense for them, but only they can say that."

If the Cowboys don't match, Fowler will come to Nashville and cost the Titans nothing in draft-pick compensation because he came into the league as an undrafted free agent.

Herman said throughout the process that he'd be surprised if the Cowboys matched an offer sheet that gave Fowler starter's money considering they are locked in with middle linebacker Bradie James.

"Ryan is hoping Dallas doesn't match," Herman said. "Tennessee is where he wants to be, this is what he wants and he is hopeful that Dallas allows him to move to Tennessee and continues his career."

 
Curtis Visits

Two receivers visiting Titans

By JIM WYATT

Staff Writer

Free agent wide receiver Kevin Curtis arrived in Nashville today and is meeting with Titans officials.

Curtis, who played last season for the St. Louis Rams, has visited the Philadelphia Eagles and has drawn interest from several other teams.

Curtis caught 40 passes for 479 yards and four touchdowns last season, his fourth in the NFL. He played college football for Utah State.

Free agent wide receiver Justin Gage is also meeting with the Titans today. The University of Missouri product played for the Chicago Bears last season, his fourth in the NFL, catching four passes for 68 yards.
 
Harper Signs

Titans agree to terms with CB Harper

By JIM WYATT

Staff Writer

The Titans have agreed to terms with cornerback Nick Harper from the Super Bowl champion Indianapolis Colts.

Harper visited the Titans last week, and his agent has been in discussions with Titans General Manager Mike Reinfelt in recent days.

Agent Ian Greengross confirmed the deal, which is for three years. Financial terms of the contract weren’t immediately available.

Harper recorded three interceptions while starting for the Colts last season.
:pickle: :clap: :suds: Provided they are not paying him crazy money

 

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