Top 200 Forward - Week 6 - Something is WAYYYYYYY off? (1 Viewer)

[Eights]

I always look at the top 200. It could be very valuable if not always flawed or a mess. I gave this feedback after last season. The top 200 should include commentary (which is better than just formulas).

I wish FBGs would just focus on certain key reports/tools instead of spreading itself thin with a ton of articles that a lot of people don't care about. I would rather it be great at a few things than mediocre at a lot of things. I've been a subscriber since Day 1, but the quality has gotten worse over the years as content has increased.

This!

I also used this article frequently to gain insight on where the future value lies, I too agree I noticed last year it was not a reliable source.  Another article source missing this year that I believed to be valuable was the one that suggested how much Faab money to spend and priority order of free agent adds, I'm trying to recall who the article was written by, perhaps somebody can post the staff member; it's a real shame this article was pulled as it's was a very valuable tool that offered a different perspective to Bloom's article.

My one complaint about paid articles by FBG and members voiced this complaint last year in a thread, there is no information for future rankings and value of players going forward, these rankings change through out the season due to injuries, expanded roles, opportunities etc; I'm having to research multiple sites reading tons of different articles to help me decide how to manage my roster.

As a paying customer I don't understand why one of the best football sites doesn't address this.

 

[spider321]

How is this Issue still not fixed?!?!?!

Why would players with lower projected season totals AND averages be listed as better “values”????

 @David Dodds @Joe Bryant

 

[Tau837]

Just to clarify, does everyone realize that the This Week score is not part of the Rest of Season score and average? Are you saying that if you add This Week to ROS, players with lower combined totals are ranked higher than players with higher combined totals? When I read this topic, I looked and did not see that.  

 

[Bob Henry]

Good news, folks. I think we finally found the needle in the haystack. The sorting issues are fixed now. Thanks for your patience. It was definitely in the bye weeks, but it wasn't an issue in the apps and only in the Top 200 Forward on the site. Thanks for the head's up. 

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

Good news, folks. I think we finally found the needle in the haystack. The sorting issues are fixed now. Thanks for your patience. It was definitely in the bye weeks, but it wasn't an issue in the apps and only in the Top 200 Forward on the site. Thanks for the head's up. 

This looks very good Bob....thnx. 

One question though...

....no Bridgewater at all on the QB list? 

Seems like an oversight, unless you really believe Tom Savage has move value than him.

 

[Bob Henry]

This looks very good Bob....thnx. 

One question though...

....no Bridgewater at all on the QB list? 

Seems like an oversight, unless you really believe Tom Savage has move value than him.

Something is off there. He's in the projections, so it could be a bad player ID. Let me check and coordinate this with a quick update to the database with Dodds. Sorry, I didn't see this until right now. Thanks MoCS!

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Something is off there. He's in the projections, so it could be a bad player ID. Let me check and coordinate this with a quick update to the database with Dodds. Sorry, I didn't see this until right now. Thanks MoCS!

Fyi the Saints were left off this week's defense rankings as well. (though considering years past that's pretty understandable...).

 

[Payne]

Winston throws for almost 400 yards and 3 TD's and drops to 15??

I was wrong. Not 11, but 15. Winston is the 15th best QB going forward? I'm sorry, this looses credibility.

 

[Bob Henry]

Fyi the Saints were left off this week's defense rankings as well. (though considering years past that's pretty understandable...).

Dodds and I found the problem. All fixed now. Teddy is there. Saints D is there. 

 

[Bob Henry]

Winston throws for almost 400 yards and 3 TD's and drops to 15??

I was wrong. Not 11, but 15. Winston is the 15th best QB going forward? I'm sorry, this looses credibility.

Good eye, Payne. I'm fixing this. Had Winston consistently ranked higher than that before he was hurt his shoulder. I simply had more stats for Fitz and didnt put them back on Winston once it was clear he's good to go. Should be updated later tonight. Thanks.

 

[Don't Noonan]

Winston throws for almost 400 yards and 3 TD's and drops to 15??

I was wrong. Not 11, but 15. Winston is the 15th best QB going forward? I'm sorry, this looses credibility.

Meh, Winston is currently QB 20, I assume he will be a bit better so 15 is about right.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Surprised by how high Dodds is on the Chargers D ROS, and how low he is on the Lions.

 

[Tau837]

Surprised by how high Dodds is on the Chargers D ROS, and how low he is on the Lions.

In 2016, the Chargers were #29 in points allowed and #16 in yards allowed. In 2017 through 7 games, they are #8 in points allowed and #13 in yards allowed. Significant improvement, particularly considering their schedule to date was arguably more difficult than their remaining schedule. This matters in leagues that score these categories.

That has also happened with Denzel Perryman on IR. He is the Chargers' best LB against the run, and is expected to return at some point.

In 2016, the Chargers had 34 turnovers and 5 defensive TDs. In 2017 through 7 games, they have just 10 turnovers and 0 defensive TDs. IMO both numbers are flukishly low; they have dropped several interceptions that should have been caught, and a couple of those would have likely gone for defensive TDs.

In 2016, the Chargers had 35 sacks. In 2017, they have 23 sacks in 7 games, on pace for 53. That helps fantasy numbers, and that pressure should also generate more turnovers.

Not sure how Dodds does his defensive projections, but I am not surprised that he is projecting the Chargers where he is.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

In 2016, the Chargers were #29 in points allowed and #16 in yards allowed. In 2017 through 7 games, they are #8 in points allowed and #13 in yards allowed. Significant improvement, particularly considering their schedule to date was arguably more difficult than their remaining schedule. This matters in leagues that score these categories.

That has also happened with Denzel Perryman on IR. He is the Chargers' best LB against the run, and is expected to return at some point.

In 2016, the Chargers had 34 turnovers and 5 defensive TDs. In 2017 through 7 games, they have just 10 turnovers and 0 defensive TDs. IMO both numbers are flukishly low; they have dropped several interceptions that should have been caught, and a couple of those would have likely gone for defensive TDs.

In 2016, the Chargers had 35 sacks. In 2017, they have 23 sacks in 7 games, on pace for 53. That helps fantasy numbers, and that pressure should also generate more turnovers.

Not sure how Dodds does his defensive projections, but I am not surprised that he is projecting the Chargers where he is.

Great insight and added data, thanks.

 

[Bob Henry]

In 2016, the Chargers were #29 in points allowed and #16 in yards allowed. In 2017 through 7 games, they are #8 in points allowed and #13 in yards allowed. Significant improvement, particularly considering their schedule to date was arguably more difficult than their remaining schedule. This matters in leagues that score these categories.

That has also happened with Denzel Perryman on IR. He is the Chargers' best LB against the run, and is expected to return at some point.

In 2016, the Chargers had 34 turnovers and 5 defensive TDs. In 2017 through 7 games, they have just 10 turnovers and 0 defensive TDs. IMO both numbers are flukishly low; they have dropped several interceptions that should have been caught, and a couple of those would have likely gone for defensive TDs.

In 2016, the Chargers had 35 sacks. In 2017, they have 23 sacks in 7 games, on pace for 53. That helps fantasy numbers, and that pressure should also generate more turnovers.

Not sure how Dodds does his defensive projections, but I am not surprised that he is projecting the Chargers where he is.

You make a helluva front man, JWB. The forward projections are exclusively mine (save for IDP, I don't do those). You nailed a lot of my thinking here. It's been offset with losing Verrett and Perryman, but their pass rush is among the best in the league (Bosa on fire + Ingram = arguably best tandem in NFL). 

I'm definitely not down on the Lions D. They have played well and continue to play that way (even last night - ugh), but I'm not sure if they can sustain the level of production we're seeing from a fantasy perspective. They've been a solid starter in most /all formats, but I see them as more of a 10-to-16 ranked defense than a sustainable top unit. Hope i'm wrong.

The Saints and Bears have probably been the most surprising D units to date. Both are in that starting mix and don't look like they'll be fading down the stretch necessarily.

 

[MattFancy]

I know Doug Martin had a terrible game. But he drops 68 spots?

 

[Arodin]

I know Doug Martin had a terrible game. But he drops 68 spots?

Bad game.  Evans out.  Winston out.  I could see that big of a drop in weekly rankings given all of the circumstances.

Top 200 isnt supposed to be that reactionary, but a lot of fbg's allegedly long-term analysis is kneejerk reaction to the previous week.

 

[MattFancy]

Chris Thompson is #5 overall in PPR ROS?? I’m a Skins fan and I don’t even see that.