top Rbs next year (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

Your rankings suck, and you suck. Go back to Canada!

Have a great season guy.

Yes. Goodbye. See you in June if you want to come back. Sorry if that's too harsh and I know we are way more strict than lots of boards but that's just how we're trying to run this. J

 

[nittanylion]

Let's toss this speculation out there for some groupthink:

In my opinion, there's a good possibility Jacksonville leads the League (or ranks right near the top) in Rushing Offense, and Fred Taylor and MJD both wind up somewhere in the Top 20, with likely one in each half.

In some of the formats I'm playing in, if I continue to warm to this idea as the Drafts draw closer, I might be tempted, if I were to land MJD in the 1st Rd, to acquire studs at QB/WR/TE, grab Fred where he should fall, and start them in tandem as either RB1/RB2, or RB/Flex...

...call me crazy?

 

[FUBAR]

Let's toss this speculation out there for some groupthink:

In my opinion, there's a good possibility Jacksonville leads the League (or ranks right near the top) in Rushing Offense, and Fred Taylor and MJD both wind up somewhere in the Top 20, with likely one in each half.

In some of the formats I'm playing in, if I continue to warm to this idea as the Drafts draw closer, I might be tempted, if I were to land MJD in the 1st Rd, to acquire studs at QB/WR/TE, grab Fred where he should fall, and start them in tandem as either RB1/RB2, or RB/Flex...

...call me crazy?

Chris Griffin:Get out of my Head!

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[glock]

Your rankings suck, and you suck. Go back to Canada!

Have a great season guy.

Yes. Goodbye. See you in June if you want to come back. Sorry if that's too harsh and I know we are way more strict than lots of boards but that's just how we're trying to run this. J

trogg78...

 

[turkishkamel]

Westbrook #1? Never going to happen unless every other RB in the league gets injured.

MJD #4? Top-10 would not surprise me, but I see him more in the 11-15 range.

Barber #7? Extremely unlikely IMO, there is not a higher hyped player right now.

Addai #9? He's a top-5 at the lowest.

DWilli #11? He's not good enough first of all, his team is not good enough, and they will likely draft someone to start instead of him.

Maroney over Portis? Heck, Portis outside the top-10?

I really don't think you put much thought into this list.

Westbrook finished with 5 fewer points than LT (and in one less game). Without the infamous 1 yd line kneel down, he was essentially the #1 guy last year. That's a bold statement for the #2 2007 RB.

And last year nearly every RB in the NFL was injured, and he couldn't finish #1. It also happened to be nearly his best season ever, pretty much his ceiling.

Ummm, it was just pointed out that he was one of those injured RBs....

Exactly why he will likely never finish #1.

actually in my fairly standard PPR league westbrook finished as the #1 back with 357 pts. LT was #2 at 356.45. all this with BW missing a game and giving up 6 pts on the lay down. not that i think he'll be #1 again, but he was last year.

 

[switz]

Westbrook #1? Never going to happen unless every other RB in the league gets injured.

MJD #4? Top-10 would not surprise me, but I see him more in the 11-15 range.

Barber #7? Extremely unlikely IMO, there is not a higher hyped player right now.

Addai #9? He's a top-5 at the lowest.

DWilli #11? He's not good enough first of all, his team is not good enough, and they will likely draft someone to start instead of him.

Maroney over Portis? Heck, Portis outside the top-10?

I really don't think you put much thought into this list.

Westbrook finished with 5 fewer points than LT (and in one less game). Without the infamous 1 yd line kneel down, he was essentially the #1 guy last year. That's a bold statement for the #2 2007 RB.

And last year nearly every RB in the NFL was injured, and he couldn't finish #1. It also happened to be nearly his best season ever, pretty much his ceiling.

Ummm, it was just pointed out that he was one of those injured RBs....

Exactly why he will likely never finish #1.

actually in my fairly standard PPR league westbrook finished as the #1 back with 357 pts. LT was #2 at 356.45. all this with BW missing a game and giving up 6 pts on the lay down. not that i think he'll be #1 again, but he was last year.

Interesting... what is your league's scoring? I knew he finished #2 in quite a few, but I doubt he will ever be that high again even.

 

[broncofan13000]

Westbrook #1? Never going to happen unless every other RB in the league gets injured.

MJD #4? Top-10 would not surprise me, but I see him more in the 11-15 range.

Barber #7? Extremely unlikely IMO, there is not a higher hyped player right now.

Addai #9? He's a top-5 at the lowest.

DWilli #11? He's not good enough first of all, his team is not good enough, and they will likely draft someone to start instead of him.

Maroney over Portis? Heck, Portis outside the top-10?

I really don't think you put much thought into this list.

Westbrook finished with 5 fewer points than LT (and in one less game). Without the infamous 1 yd line kneel down, he was essentially the #1 guy last year. That's a bold statement for the #2 2007 RB.

And last year nearly every RB in the NFL was injured, and he couldn't finish #1. It also happened to be nearly his best season ever, pretty much his ceiling.

Ummm, it was just pointed out that he was one of those injured RBs....

Exactly why he will likely never finish #1.

actually in my fairly standard PPR league westbrook finished as the #1 back with 357 pts. LT was #2 at 356.45. all this with BW missing a game and giving up 6 pts on the lay down. not that i think he'll be #1 again, but he was last year.

Interesting... what is your league's scoring? I knew he finished #2 in quite a few, but I doubt he will ever be that high again even.

In a standard ppr (1ppr/6pnt td/ 1 pnt 10 yards) he finished first.

 

[switz]

Westbrook #1? Never going to happen unless every other RB in the league gets injured.

MJD #4? Top-10 would not surprise me, but I see him more in the 11-15 range.

Barber #7? Extremely unlikely IMO, there is not a higher hyped player right now.

Addai #9? He's a top-5 at the lowest.

DWilli #11? He's not good enough first of all, his team is not good enough, and they will likely draft someone to start instead of him.

Maroney over Portis? Heck, Portis outside the top-10?

I really don't think you put much thought into this list.

Westbrook finished with 5 fewer points than LT (and in one less game). Without the infamous 1 yd line kneel down, he was essentially the #1 guy last year. That's a bold statement for the #2 2007 RB.

And last year nearly every RB in the NFL was injured, and he couldn't finish #1. It also happened to be nearly his best season ever, pretty much his ceiling.

Ummm, it was just pointed out that he was one of those injured RBs....

Exactly why he will likely never finish #1.

actually in my fairly standard PPR league westbrook finished as the #1 back with 357 pts. LT was #2 at 356.45. all this with BW missing a game and giving up 6 pts on the lay down. not that i think he'll be #1 again, but he was last year.

Interesting... what is your league's scoring? I knew he finished #2 in quite a few, but I doubt he will ever be that high again even.

In a standard ppr (1ppr/6pnt td/ 1 pnt 10 yards) he finished first.

Ah... I should have read the first post better. I don't play PPR.

 

[Marc Levin]

Westbrook has the 4th most FF points from 2004 through 2007 in non-PPR leagues.

He jumps to #2 in PPR leagues.

In the top 5 over that span are LT (obviously), Edge, LJ, and SA - the next five are Tiki, SJax, Portiis, Rudi, McGahee.

Projecting Westbrook as the #1 FF RB in PPR leagues is reasonable. Projecting him as the #1 RB in non-PPR leagues is not ridiculous. It is an unlikely occurrence, but not worthy of ridicule. In fact, I liken Westbrook's going forward status to Tiki Barber's.

 

[switz]

Westbrook has the 4th most FF points from 2004 through 2007 in non-PPR leagues.

He jumps to #2 in PPR leagues.

In the top 5 over that span are LT (obviously), Edge, LJ, and SA - the next five are Tiki, SJax, Portiis, Rudi, McGahee.

Projecting Westbrook as the #1 FF RB in PPR leagues is reasonable. Projecting him as the #1 RB in non-PPR leagues is not ridiculous. It is an unlikely occurrence, but not worthy of ridicule. In fact, I liken Westbrook's going forward status to Tiki Barber's.

I hope my 'it's never going to happen' did not come across as ridicule. It wasn't my intention to make the poster feel 'stupid', or 'dumb', or any of those things. As was pointed out by a few, in PPR he apparently finished #1 last season, something I didn't know as I don't play in PPR leagues. I also think last season was an abberation overall for RBs, and I know most agree.Anyway, I just wanted to clarify that in no way was I trying to ridicule the OP - just providing feedback on a few player rankings I disagreed with. I probably needed to flesh out an argument to support my feedback better.

 

[whitewizard2]

first off i just turned 18 in june so my FFB expereince has been limited to who to start and waiver wrie signings. i do have some fairly deep knowledge about most teams and their status with their players, but i have been focusing alot on what the lions will do this upcoming draft and not so much what i will do. that and i do not like looking into to much stuff with FFB until after the draft makes it easier to understand what mode a team is in and what position will do better there, and all the scenerios get cleared up quicker. so i figured that the best way to prepare for the fantasy draft was to get right in there and talk with a bunch of people that knew what was going on with everybody. so i will make some bone head statements occassionally when it comes to guys like cadillac. so i am sorry about that and know knowing it i do take him out of my list, move everyone else up a spot and put turner in at the bottom, go with the unknown on this one. real fast chachi what were you trying to say about white and horn. yeah they catch better than what they have had in the past, and i did forget there for a second that white had some pretty good games, but my original question still stands. who is throwing the ball? a rookie who will make mistakes and face Ds on constant blitz alert (not a good thing for a back), or if they get long some decent oline production but then there will not be much of a threat of the pass if all they got is redman, pretty sure that is who was starting last year so many started it was hard to keep track of. anyways turner should not have that great of a year next year. so i was just curious what you were questioning.

as for lynch i just forgot his name at at 2:30 am did not feel like searching for it. so i decided that either i put "you know the kid in buffalo" or wait until i remembered his name. either way i knew i would not come out smelling like a rose. as for bush remembered his name just thought i put him in there the first time. besides he just does not have that natural talent or ability to run in between the tackles and get consistent yards. you can not turn to bush and say go get me 4 yards 3 times right up the middle. it is not in his nature and it is not what he is good at. you can not tell barry sanders to make 1 cut and go and you can not tell bush to go up the middle on a consistent basis, especially not with deuce back there with him. he thrives on carnage and does best whe the D is unsettled that way he can find a big crack and explode. he has talent don'y get me wrong but until he becomes more of a guy who can get some consistent plays up the middle he probably wont make it past 12 in production. just my opinion, i am sure he could do it but the same reason why people dog my pick on FWP, is the same reason i have doubts about bush once you get in the 20 there is a lot less space to run through and you get hit alot faster. he will be good but i do not think he will be great for a little while longer.

as for tatum bell never liked him that much, thought jones was much better and i was very upset when they cut him. i sort of understand why but now we have another hole. we are trying a zone blocking scheme this year so bell might do better this year but that still means he might just suck a little less.

i hope this has cleared some of the confusion and releived some frustration. i love reading what everyone has said and i do agree that last year was an off year for backs but ;ast year will carry huge ramifications for this year and is one reason i am trying to find out as much as possible about this position in particular. also i would like to redefine this list it is not so much about last year and where a guiy should get drafted but more of how productive, and more importantly how consistent a guy will be next year. thanks for all your opinions i look forward to reading more of them.

 

[BoneYardDog]

You guys are way to hard on ANY rankings that come out this early in the off-season...

Just for the heck of it I looked back at the Draft Dominator July of 2007 rankings for running backs for my Zealots league scoring...

Top 10 should have been: LT, Jackson, Westbrook, LJ, Gore, Bush, Addai, FWP, MJD and Maroney...

Actual end of year standings was: LT, Westbrook, AD, Addai, Portis, Jamal Lewis, MBIII, MJD, Gore and Edge...

So of the top 10 ranked in JULY, five did not make it into the top 10. AD was ranked 23rd, Portis was 17th ranked, Jamal was ranked 36th, Barber 27th and Edge was ranked 14th...

It is easy to dismiss rankings but they might end up surprising you in the end...