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I think Wallace is a dark horse.

He has 1257/10 last year with 1/4 of his season essentially being lost for prolific production because either Dennis Dixon or Charlie Batch were under center.

If you project Wallace's stats over 16 games for the 12 games he had BB throwing to him, that would work out to 1394/11.

I know his 2011 YPR was ridiculous at 20+, but Hines Ward is a year older...Emmanual Sanders showed spurts of solid play, but he's still a question mark.

Wallace not only has sub 4.3 speed, but he's also sturdy at 6'0 200 so he's not one dimensional or one of those specialist speed type of guys. And he's entering Year 3.

 
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PPR. 1.Percy Harvin2. Megatron3. Fitz4. V. Jacks5. White6. Welker7. A J8. lance Moore9. Wallace10. B LloydThere has to be some change in the top ten, there always is.Nicks will not be top ten.
I will give you a bajillion dollars CASH if Lance Moore finishes as a top 8 PPR receiver. :D
I will give you a trillion if Percy is number 1...hahahaha funny as heck
 
Nicks Barring Injury will be top WR imo for ppr.
And will be for a many seasons. This guy just has "it". Like Jerry Rice had "it". Nicks has size and strength to beat press man coverage, refined route runner exploding out of his cuts, soft hands, great concentration when ball is in the air, knows how to shield corners, catches the ball away from his body ,will go over the middle, nice instincts, shows intelligence to come back to the quarterback. He isn't much of a deep threat on paper but yet you see him getting behind defenses with frequency. Biggest WR crush ever.
 
Wayne will have too many other guys eating into his STATS, Peyton every year seems to get everyone to notice another colt WR option, I E Collie, Tamme , and even to a certain extent Blair White, plus Gonz could be back this year too, and Wayne will still have to compete with PG85 for touches, clark will be back, Addai will get his, just WAY to many people for Wayne to have to compete with.I actually think this year will be a changing of the guard in INDY , Wayne will pass the torch to PG85 (breakout year!) as for Hakeem great year last year but hasn't done it season after season like the other guys.I don't see how Fitz doesn't come out on top.
Colts are running out of guys who supposedly will take recs from Wayne.Collie is one hit away from the emergency room with yet another concussion. Gonzo is ,once again, HURT!, Clark is going to get his numbers no matter what, that is, if he can stay healthy..I learned the hard way to never discount Reggie Wayne..I thought last year was the year for Garcon to become the #1 guy in Indy.didn't happen..probably won't ever happen..it's amazing that in the mock drafts I've done at fantasyfootballcalculator.com, Wayne has consistently fallen late into the 3rd round..that is just sick value for a guy who'll bring 110 catches , 1000+ yards and 7-10 TDs.it's almost like he's the forgotten WR..I like the fact that Indy can't run, and none of the WR's can stay healthy except Wayne..someone said Manning doesn't trust Garcon? not sure how you'd come to that conclusion: in the final 5 weeks of 2010 season, Garcon caught an avg of 5.8 balls/gm, 61 yards/gm, and scored a TD in 4 out of these 5 games..the torch has been passed, sure, Garcon is the #2 guy in Indy, probably on par with Manningham in NY.But until the curtain comes down on Wayne I'm never discounting him again..Fitz is my #1 WR this season:1. Fitz2. AJ3. Nicks4. White5. Wayne5a. Wallace6. CJ
 
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I think Wallace is a dark horse.He has 1257/10 last year with 1/4 of his season essentially being lost for prolific production because either Dennis Dixon or Charlie Batch were under center.If you project Wallace's stats over 16 games for the 12 games he had BB throwing to him, that would work out to 1394/11.I know his 2011 YPR was ridiculous at 20+, but Hines Ward is a year older...Emmanual Sanders showed spurts of solid play, but he's still a question mark.Wallace not only has sub 4.3 speed, but he's also sturdy at 6'0 200 so he's not one dimensional or one of those specialist speed type of guys. And he's entering Year 3.
My question about Wallace is how will they use him in the intermediate passing game, where Hines Ward was great. Right now I can't see Wallace catching enough passes to become the #1WR. But if PIT uses him more in the intermediate passing game, the sky is the limit for Wallace.
 
A bajillion dollars would be real nice. :thumbup: You also would have said the same thing last year if I had Brandon LLoyd as a top 5 wr, or Steve Johnson in the top 10.

 
I think any of these guys, who I have as my top 10, could end up being the #1 guy. Some have better odds to be the #1 guy but in the NFL anything can happen. In no particular order.

Andre Johnson- consistant year after year

Calvin Johnson- Stafford all year could make him #1

Roddy White-rookie takes some preesure off,Ryan evolving & White will catch a lot of balls.

Hakeem Nicks- tough division and they'll have to throw. Nicks will see a lot of targets.

Vincent Jackson- Will be the focal point of Rivers throws.

Larry Fitzgerald- Kolb will love this guy.

Mike Wallace. Maybe not most catches but long td's & Yardage could give him #1 spot.

Steve Johnson- I believe he'll better last years' numbers so he has a shot. My Darkhorse.

Mike Williams-tough division too and they'll have to score. Freeman to Williams does that.

Dwayne Bowe- Bowe's gonna have multiple TD games again in'11. He could score 20.

 
Excellent discussion guys, thanks for your contribution to this thread :thumbup: Now to add a bit more fuel to the fire on fitz...is not having a good #2 on your team a good thing. I would think that would mean double and triple coverage and factor that in with an unproven QB has me worried. I agree with an earlier post about how impressive he was last year with garbage at QB, but there is no guarantee this year will be better. Great point about AJ's floor. I'm actually hoping to nail 2 top WR in my draft, or a top WR and QB. Hoping my league sticks with its RB heavy draft mentality. If you have 3rd Round reversal in your draft you could feasibly come out with AJ, Roddy White and Fitz/Wayne/Wallace in your draft. You would crush people with that!
Food for thought:Highest targeted WR, highest receptions WR: Roddy White.Who was his WR2? Jenkins? Harry Douglas? I think Early Doucet (or Andre Roberts?) is on the same level as Jenkins, if not higher.Who was his TE? Tony Gonzalez. Sure, Heap didn't get as many targets as TGonz... but heap is now the #2 receiving option behind Fitz, just as Gonzo was for Roddy last year. The ravens dumped off to Rice a ton, and had Mason at WR2 with a TON of targets compared to Doucet. Still not sold on Heap being enough? Heap caught 40 balls off 64 targets (62.5%) for a whopping 599 yards (15.0ypc avg) and 5 TDs. If 'The Stormin' Mormon' isn't enough to keep defenses honest for Fitz, then I don't know who is.Final argument is that Flacco is better than Kolb. True, but if Kolb is a SMIDGEN better than the 94 QBs that threw to Fitz last year, I think we see an improvement with Heap around.
 
If he stays healthy, Hakeem Nicks. He has a very good QB and a shortage of other, viable targets around him other than Manningham.
Im surprised he isn't getting more love.He and AJ were a full 4 pts/game better than Fitz last year. That's a lot of ground to make up, considering the situations are still ideal for Nicks and AJ.
 
If he stays healthy, Hakeem Nicks. He has a very good QB and a shortage of other, viable targets around him other than Manningham.
Im surprised he isn't getting more love.He and AJ were a full 4 pts/game better than Fitz last year. That's a lot of ground to make up, considering the situations are still ideal for Nicks and AJ.
They also both had much better QBs throwing to them (Eli still had a ton of TDs, even though the INTs hurt everyone).
 
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If he stays healthy, Hakeem Nicks. He has a very good QB and a shortage of other, viable targets around him other than Manningham.
Im surprised he isn't getting more love.He and AJ were a full 4 pts/game better than Fitz last year. That's a lot of ground to make up, considering the situations are still ideal for Nicks and AJ.
They also both had much better QBs throwing to them (Eli still had a ton of TDs, even though the INTs hurt everyone).
Sure...but IMO 4 pts/game is too much to make up for Kolb....especially since Nicks may be getting better.
 
Definitely fair, but do you see Nicks' improvement as a larger gain than Fitz gets with Heap and Kolb throwing to him this year?

 
Andre Johnson without a doubt

Played on a bum ankle half the time, missed 3 games like nicks, and went against revis 1game

And still put up 86/1216/8td!!!

Just wow

 
Not really seeing Nicks finishing #1.

Two matchups with Nnamdi and a week 16 matchup against Revis doesn't look inviting. That's 3 games where Nicks will put up mediocre stats in addition to the down games every WR has. Add in the possibility of missing a game or two to injury and Nicks will finish closer to the bottom half of the top 10.

 
Andre Johnson without a doubtPlayed on a bum ankle half the time, missed 3 games like nicks, and went against revis 1gameAnd still put up 86/1216/8td!!!Just wow
Love AJ but I don't love the system he is in. In his 10 years as OC in Denver and 5 years as HC in Houston only three times has one of his WRs gone over 9 TDs (Rod Smith 1997-12, 2001-11 & Ed McCaffrey 1998-10). Andre Johnson has never had a double digit TD season.While I love his game I don't like slotting a guy at WR #1 who doesn't have a minimum of 13 TD upside and AJ doesn't.
 
Not really seeing Nicks finishing #1.

Two matchups with Nnamdi and a week 16 matchup against Revis doesn't look inviting. That's 3 games where Nicks will put up mediocre stats in addition to the down games every WR has. Add in the possibility of missing a game or two to injury and Nicks will finish closer to the bottom half of the top 10.
Oof. Good point.
 
Not really seeing Nicks finishing #1.

Two matchups with Nnamdi and a week 16 matchup against Revis doesn't look inviting. That's 3 games where Nicks will put up mediocre stats in addition to the down games every WR has. Add in the possibility of missing a game or two to injury and Nicks will finish closer to the bottom half of the top 10.
That is a lot of assuming LOL and wishful thinking. I have seen Nicks make a fool out of the best of them, don't count on that bud.

 
Not really seeing Nicks finishing #1.

Two matchups with Nnamdi and a week 16 matchup against Revis doesn't look inviting. That's 3 games where Nicks will put up mediocre stats in addition to the down games every WR has. Add in the possibility of missing a game or two to injury and Nicks will finish closer to the bottom half of the top 10.
That is a lot of assuming LOL and wishful thinking. I have seen Nicks make a fool out of the best of them, don't count on that bud.
I realize it's pointless to argue with you, but Nicks has an injury history, he's had bad to mediocre games in the past, and I think you'd admit those two corners are tough to do much against.This thread is about the top wide receiver. Those 3 factors lead me to believe Nicks won't finish there.

I saw your projections in his spotlight thread. You seem to disagree, which is fine, but do you have to be so condescending about it?

 
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Not really seeing Nicks finishing #1.

Two matchups with Nnamdi and a week 16 matchup against Revis doesn't look inviting. That's 3 games where Nicks will put up mediocre stats in addition to the down games every WR has. Add in the possibility of missing a game or two to injury and Nicks will finish closer to the bottom half of the top 10.
That is a lot of assuming LOL and wishful thinking. I have seen Nicks make a fool out of the best of them, don't count on that bud.
I realize it's pointless to argue with you, but Nicks has an injury history, he's had bad to mediocre games in the past, and I think you'd admit those two corners are tough to do much against.This thread is about the top wide receiver. Those 3 factors lead me to believe Nicks won't finish there.

I saw your projections in his spotlight thread. You seem to disagree, which is fine, but do you have to be so condescending about it?
Finished WR12 in my league. He was limited in a few games and missed another. 7 receptions, 114 yards, 0 TDs in the three matchups I referred to. :shrug:
 
Nicks was WR 11 in my league. While Cruz's emergence will prevent Nicks from potentially being a top 3 WR, I very much like his chances to remain a top 10 guy for a long time. IMO, he's still a top 5 dynasty WR.

 

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