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montana_grizzly_bears
Footballguy
Someone posted a quote form Linehan in the Sjax and Holt thread further down about Holt being Doubled most the game and Bulger going to the other targets who had one on one coverage. Little concerned myself but not ready to throw the towel in yet. If it does happen again thsi week than it might be time to stash him on the bench until later in the year.
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
Won't there be double coverage on Holt all season? Seems ridiculous they would avoid their best WR who has Hall of Fame type numbers in order to focus on a bunch of no-names.
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
how'd that work out for them?
montana_grizzly_bears
Footballguy
Like I said if it keeps happening you look elsewhere, but you can't just dump a 3rd round pick after week 1 of the season because his team didn't show up around him.
packersfan
Footballguy
Precisely. I posted in another thread that this isn't all that difficult - if Holt is being doubled, you come up with ways to free him up. Or you can give up and try to beat the Eagles throwing the ball to Dante Hall. Seems like a rather easy choice to me.
flooredyas
Footballguy
Gotchya-Especially seeing the final results, stick with what's working.
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
Lol I agree. Seems ridiculous they would completely ignore their only weapon at wideout.Perhaps the loss of Bruce will be more crippling than percieved.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
I watched the whole game, even the part after it was unofficially over, and there was entirely no sense of urgency. They seemed content at losing by 35. It might have worked better for Holt if they were only 2 scores instead of 5.
So, Torry Holt has never been doubled covered before? Please - this is one of the premier receivers in the league.The Rams were an absolute mess yesterday.
thatguythere
Footballguy
Bulger looks gunshy. He is nowhere near as decisive as he was...for whatever reason.
packersfan
Footballguy
Nice to see Scott Linehan posting in this thread.
Meat
Footballguy
I think the Rams will be absolutely awful this year; but I do believe Holt will be better. Coming from an Eagles homer here - Bulger was facing an absolute nightmare of a defense - very fast, with possibly the best secondary in the league - with Assante Samuel / Dawkins (2 pro-bowl caliber players) DT'ing him. Add on top of that a TON of pressure, Bulger just couldn't do anything.
I think Holt will get his, but unfortunately those who own him may certainly have to temper their expectations some - that OL just looks horrendous.
I think Holt will get his, but unfortunately those who own him may certainly have to temper their expectations some - that OL just looks horrendous.
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
God, your posts are stunningly useless. Half of the #1's in the NFL are double covered a good portion of the game.
BusterTBronco
Footballguy
Could have something to do with the fact that he's an old man and can't get open.
tomarken
Footballguy
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
I think this might be closer to the truth than anything else. Once upon a time, Holt would find a way but he was never a burner. He outmaneuvered CB's for the football. He could be the Rudi Johnson of WR's this year (finally losing a step but didn't have a step to give).
Kub
Footballguy
I view him as a good buy low candidate. I have him in one league and I am going to check in with his owners in other leagues to see what they are thinking about Holt. The guy hasn't had less than 1188 yards since his rookie year. I understand the other WRs on the Rams are a dropoff from Bruce, but it isn't like Holt hasn't been double teamed for years now. I think you just have to tip your hat to the job Asante Samuel, Brian Dawkins, and company did covering him in week 1.
Tau837
Footballguy
You're saying he was never a burner and succeeded for other reasons, but is now no longer succeeding because he's lost a step. But if he didn't rely on speed, why would that matter?
That said, at the 1999 draft combine, he ran a 4.44 40. I'm not sure if that's a "burner," but that's not bad speed by any means.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
They only threw to him twice? I don't care how well he was covered...if he couldn't get open more than twice that's a big problem. Lousy playcalling or he's lost a step (I'll wager he hasn't lost a step). And if it was because of the horrible playcalling what do we have to look forward to?
he also seemed to be off the field for at least 1/3 of the plays. the rams just suck. i said it in another post and i'll say it here: they might be the worst team in football. they looked just awful. i didn't check the stats, but they seemed to have a lot of 3 and outs. bulger was frazzled and orlando pace got hurt. i think holt's numbers will come down this year. he might be starting the isaac bruce decline - fortunately for holt, there's nothing on the other side for bulger to throw to now that bennett is hurt (again). i tried trading holt BEFORE the season and couldn't get any takers. and that includes a guy who came into the season with no WRs and the only 1 he drafted was DeSean Jackson.
stevegamer
Footballguy
If you're a Rams fan, you can look forward to Linehan being fired. Expect a trainwreck season.
Playcalling was bad, Special Teams were bad (except the punter - who was very good!), many Rams players were crappy - particularly the OL.
Playcalling was bad, Special Teams were bad (except the punter - who was very good!), many Rams players were crappy - particularly the OL.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
going to be a long season for St Louis..
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