Trade Advice (1 Viewer)

[the moops]

In a new league, and guys seem to want to trade quite a bit. I like it. Anyway, one guy keeps bugging me. I think he really wants Youkilis.

Martín Prado

Vernon Wells

Aramis Ramírez

Ubaldo Jiménez

for

Kevin Youkilis

Ángel Pagán

Chad Billingsley

My team is currently

C - Suzuki

1B - Youk

2B - K Johnson

3B - Reynolds

SS - Furcal

OF - Crawford, Cruz, Pagan

UTL - C Pena

Bench - D Lee, Morse, R Davis

DL - Hart

SP - Felix, Greinke, Cain, Oswalt, Billingsley, Kiroda

RP - K-Rod, Perez, Lyon

 

[pollardsvision]

I wouldn't do it. You're giving up a stud and not getting anything that you really need.

Your pitching is dominant and I'm not even so sure Ubaldo will even be better than Bills (love him this year).

Wells is nice, but you don't really need him. Same for Aramis and Prado (I really like Johnson).

Value's not bad. I'm just not sure how much it'd really help you.

 

[the moops]

Yea. That's how I was feeling about it.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I rarely like giving up quality for quantity. That's essentially what this trade is. I don't see how or where it improves your team.

 

[shahekee]

20 team 5x5 head to head would you rather have Huff Beckett Aardsma or Gaby Sanchez and Marmol? Should also mention it's a dynasty league.

 

[SuperAwesomeDude]

20 team 5x5 head to head would you rather have Huff Beckett Aardsma or Gaby Sanchez and Marmol? Should also mention it's a dynasty league.

marmol and sanchez?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

20 team 5x5 head to head would you rather have Huff Beckett Aardsma or Gaby Sanchez and Marmol? Should also mention it's a dynasty league.

Are you kidding? Marmol all the way!

 

[pollardsvision]

What do you guys think about these deals? Any thoughts would be a appreciated (pertinent details below). I think I'm giving up a tad too much in all, but I think the framework's there.

1. Give Aramis/Andrus/Moustakas for Kershaw/D.Hudson

2. Aramis/A.Bailey for Gio Gonzalez/Shields

3. Andrus for Billingsley/Shields

Not really considering 3, but 1 and 2 are intriguing.

My team is hurting like crazy for pitching and I likely can't win this year without a trade, but I won't make a desperation trade (I'm not opposed to playing for 2013). Either way, keeper values play a huge role.

I don't want to give Aramis away, but I also don't need him very much. I've got Alvarez and Reynolds. All 3 could start in this league, so it's still production lost to some degree. (Though I'd only have to start 1 3B in a pinch, and I've got 3 1B that might be better than all those 3B).

League: 10 team, 5x5 (OBP), 11-player keeper, huge rosters and starting lineups (C/1B/2B/3B/SS/CI/MI/IF/5OF/UTL/8SP/3RP)

Roster (

C: R.Martin

1B: Miggy, Kenrdrys(DL), Ike, Belt

2B: Kinsler

3B: Aramis, Alvarez, Reynolds, Moustakas

SS: Andrus, Furcal

OF: Ellsbury, Stanton, CBYoung, Quentin, T.Snider, D.Young, B.Francisco

SP: H.Kuroda, C.Lewis, E.Jackson, A.Sanchez, Matusz (DL), J.DeLaRosa, Harang, Stauffer, Ogando

RP: Axford, Street, League, A.Bailey (DL), Lindstrom, Farnsworth, Fuentes

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

[shadyridr]

1. You're giving up alot but also getting one stud pitcher and potentially another one. I like it alot for you.

2. A fringe 3B and an injured closer for a pitcher who should be very good this year and Shields who is usually solid. A landslide for you.

3. meh

Id rank them 2, 1, 3

 

[pollardsvision]

1. You're giving up alot but also getting one stud pitcher and potentially another one. I like it alot for you.2. A fringe 3B and an injured closer for a pitcher who should be very good this year and Shields who is usually solid. A landslide for you.3. mehId rank them 2, 1, 3

Yeah, I'm leaning towards going ahead and accepting #2. (these are all with the same team).1's very intriguing and I'd love Kershaw, but I hate to let go of Andrus at the moment. Not until I figure out if all these XBH's are a sign of more power to develop down the road or just a sign of how awful Red Sox pitching is this year.

 

[pollardsvision]

Pulled the trigger on #2.

I got the better of it, but it should help both teams.

He's got the best team in the league, but he had nothing behind Longo at 3rd (Chris Johnson) and not much at 1B/CI either, after Votto. He's worried about Longo's injury lingering and Aramis would start for him even after Longo returns.

Bailey could be back in a week and a half and will help his RP situation, which is fairly weak.

Gio could be great, but there's no chance he would ever keep him with his stacked pitching and you pretty decent pitching on the wire in this league.

 

[shadyridr]

I just traded Sean Burnett for Jose Lopez. Yeah or nay?

Burnett was my 4th closer (once Francisco comes back) and we only need to start 2 relievers. I figured once Lopez gains 2B eligibility he can be pretty valuable no? He could hit 25 HRs and 90 RBIs batting 5th in Colorado. My current 2B is my weakest position (Hill)

 

[brewer]

While Burnett may not keep the closer job, and his value to your team is not great, I am not a fan of Lopez at all. Maybe Coors helps him a bit, but this guy has over 3000 at bats with a career OBP of less than .300.

I probably would have hung onto Burnett and would probably play Hill over Lopez at any rate.

 

[pollardsvision]

I just traded Sean Burnett for Jose Lopez. Yeah or nay?Burnett was my 4th closer (once Francisco comes back) and we only need to start 2 relievers. I figured once Lopez gains 2B eligibility he can be pretty valuable no? He could hit 25 HRs and 90 RBIs batting 5th in Colorado. My current 2B is my weakest position (Hill)

Assuming the 2B options on the wire are fairly limited, it sounds like a great move. Lopez is hitting the ball well so far this year and a 2B that could hit 25 HRs in Seattle that's now in Colorado could turn out to be a valuable player.

 

[shadyridr]

I just traded Sean Burnett for Jose Lopez. Yeah or nay?Burnett was my 4th closer (once Francisco comes back) and we only need to start 2 relievers. I figured once Lopez gains 2B eligibility he can be pretty valuable no? He could hit 25 HRs and 90 RBIs batting 5th in Colorado. My current 2B is my weakest position (Hill)

Assuming the 2B options on the wire are fairly limited, it sounds like a great move. Lopez is hitting the ball well so far this year and a 2B that could hit 25 HRs in Seattle that's now in Colorado could turn out to be a valuable player.

There are no good 2B available. Its a 12 team league. Another reason I liked the move is even if Hill remains my starter Lopez gives me dual eligibility at 2B & 3B.

 

[the moops]

It's pretty weird to have a guy call you on the phone, who you barely know, to discuss fantasy trades, right?

I have never discussed trades, or anything, outside of email in all my years. The guy has called me like 4 times. I let it go to voicemail, and I have sent him an email. You think he would get the hint. ####### weirdo.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I just traded Sean Burnett for Jose Lopez. Yeah or nay?Burnett was my 4th closer (once Francisco comes back) and we only need to start 2 relievers. I figured once Lopez gains 2B eligibility he can be pretty valuable no? He could hit 25 HRs and 90 RBIs batting 5th in Colorado. My current 2B is my weakest position (Hill)

Meh. I'm guessing you have total crap and it's a large league? In that case it's an okay deal.

 

[the moops]

Guy still wants Youkilis

VMart, Konerko, Drabek, V Wells, A Ramirez

for

Youk, Pagan, Grienke, Russell Martin

I'm thinking I pull the trigger on this deal. I have Oswalt, Felix, Cain, Billingsley, Kuroda as starting pitching.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Guy still wants YoukilisVMart, Konerko, Drabek, V Wells, A RamirezforYouk, Pagan, Grienke, Russell MartinI'm thinking I pull the trigger on this deal. I have Oswalt, Felix, Cain, Billingsley, Kuroda as starting pitching.

I think this is a no-brainer. Yes, you do it.

 

[pollardsvision]

Yeah, that's much better than the original one that didn't help you.

Without looking too closely, you drastically improve at C and moderately improve at 3B and OF for the cost of Youk vs. Konerko (not huge) and Greinke (probably not needed).

 

[the moops]

Yeah, that's much better than the original one that didn't help you.Without looking too closely, you drastically improve at C and moderately improve at 3B and OF for the cost of Youk vs. Konerko (not huge) and Greinke (probably not needed).

Well, he pulled the propsed deal a few minutes after offering it.Now down toYouk, Pagan, Grienke, MartinforRamirez, V Mart, Wells, Prado, ScherzerThis leaves me with either Kendrick or Carlos Pena as my 1B.

 

[rascal]

The other owner needs help at 3B.

I'm thinking of giving up Alvarez for Ryan Dempster or Wandy Rodriguez. Thoughts? And would you do it if they asked for Pablo?

Or should I use my waiver wire spot (#7 out of 12) for James Shields (I would drop League) who was just dropped and hold off for now?

My team:

C: Geovany Soto

1B: Miguel Cabrera

2B: Brandon Phillips

SS: Derek Jeter

3B: Pablo Sandoval

UTL: Mark Teixeira, Justin Morneau

OF: Travis Snider, Curtis Granderson, Bobby Abreu

SP: Edwin Jackson, Chad Billingsley

RP: Mariano Rivera, Joel Hanrahan

P: Trevor Cahill, Matt Garza, Kevin Gregg, Aaron Harang

Bench: Pedro Alvarez, Matt Holliday, Brandon League, S Burnett

DL: Ubaldo Jimenez, Jarr Jurrjens

 

[the moops]

Russell Martin's big day convinced the dude to put a similar deal back on the table.

Youkilis, Pagan, Martin, Walden, Grienke

for

Konerko, Ramirez, V-Mart, Gregg, Scherzer

 

[Limp Ditka]

The other owner needs help at 3B.I'm thinking of giving up Alvarez for Ryan Dempster or Wandy Rodriguez. Thoughts? And would you do it if they asked for Pablo?Or should I use my waiver wire spot (#7 out of 12) for James Shields (I would drop League) who was just dropped and hold off for now?My team:C: Geovany Soto1B: Miguel Cabrera2B: Brandon PhillipsSS: Derek Jeter3B: Pablo Sandoval UTL: Mark Teixeira, Justin MorneauOF: Travis Snider, Curtis Granderson, Bobby AbreuSP: Edwin Jackson, Chad BillingsleyRP: Mariano Rivera, Joel HanrahanP: Trevor Cahill, Matt Garza, Kevin Gregg, Aaron HarangBench: Pedro Alvarez, Matt Holliday, Brandon League, S BurnettDL: Ubaldo Jimenez, Jarr Jurrjens

If it's 5X5 it depends on what you're after. If it's W / K's, go Dempster. If it's ERA / WHIP go Wandy

 

[Limp Ditka]

Actually, looking deeper, their K/9 ratios are pretty similar. Dempster's just thrown more innings over the last couple of years thus more K's.

I think I'd go Wandy

 

[shadyridr]

I just traded Sean Burnett for Jose Lopez. Yeah or nay?Burnett was my 4th closer (once Francisco comes back) and we only need to start 2 relievers. I figured once Lopez gains 2B eligibility he can be pretty valuable no? He could hit 25 HRs and 90 RBIs batting 5th in Colorado. My current 2B is my weakest position (Hill)

Assuming the 2B options on the wire are fairly limited, it sounds like a great move. Lopez is hitting the ball well so far this year and a 2B that could hit 25 HRs in Seattle that's now in Colorado could turn out to be a valuable player.

There are no good 2B available. Its a 12 team league. Another reason I liked the move is even if Hill remains my starter Lopez gives me dual eligibility at 2B & 3B.

Glad I made this move. Hill is horrible. Just need 5 more starts out of Lopez to be 2B eligible in my league. 3 run shot today

 

[madhatter]

5x5 NL only auction keeper league. $265 cap. Keeper values for 2012 in parentheses.

I was offered:

Jerry Sands ($6)

Colby Rasmus ($24)

Freddie Freeman ($13)

Danny Espinosa ($8) - sidenote, I assume this was thrown in because all of my middle infield sucks

for

Joey Votto ($55)

Thoughts?

I really like the thought of Rasmus @ $24 next year.

 

[shadyridr]

No way I trade Votto

 

[madhatter]

No way I trade Votto

My initial thought as well, but it's a keeper league and i'm probably not wanting to keep Votto @ $55 next year, and even though it's early, I don't think I can win this year.The cheap salaries of Freeman, Sands, and Rasmus are the intriguing part to me.

 

[rascal]

I just traded Sean Burnett for Jose Lopez. Yeah or nay?Burnett was my 4th closer (once Francisco comes back) and we only need to start 2 relievers. I figured once Lopez gains 2B eligibility he can be pretty valuable no? He could hit 25 HRs and 90 RBIs batting 5th in Colorado. My current 2B is my weakest position (Hill)

Assuming the 2B options on the wire are fairly limited, it sounds like a great move. Lopez is hitting the ball well so far this year and a 2B that could hit 25 HRs in Seattle that's now in Colorado could turn out to be a valuable player.

There are no good 2B available. Its a 12 team league. Another reason I liked the move is even if Hill remains my starter Lopez gives me dual eligibility at 2B & 3B.

Glad I made this move. Hill is horrible. Just need 5 more starts out of Lopez to be 2B eligible in my league. 3 run shot today

bump

 

[shadyridr]

I just traded Sean Burnett for Jose Lopez. Yeah or nay?Burnett was my 4th closer (once Francisco comes back) and we only need to start 2 relievers. I figured once Lopez gains 2B eligibility he can be pretty valuable no? He could hit 25 HRs and 90 RBIs batting 5th in Colorado. My current 2B is my weakest position (Hill)

Assuming the 2B options on the wire are fairly limited, it sounds like a great move. Lopez is hitting the ball well so far this year and a 2B that could hit 25 HRs in Seattle that's now in Colorado could turn out to be a valuable player.

There are no good 2B available. Its a 12 team league. Another reason I liked the move is even if Hill remains my starter Lopez gives me dual eligibility at 2B & 3B.

Glad I made this move. Hill is horrible. Just need 5 more starts out of Lopez to be 2B eligible in my league. 3 run shot today

bump

Why are you rubbing this in?

 

[shadyridr]

So I have the following trade offer floating out there (keep in my I play in a H2H pts league):

I get:

Latos, KRod, Gardner

I give up:

Reynolds, BJ Upton, Ogando

Yeah or nay?

I need closer help DESPERATELY. My current "closers" besides Hanrahan are Thornton, Storen, Francisco/Rauch. KRod isnt a stud but hes solid as long as the Mets win some games lol. I get a stud SP (my current staff is ok Kershaw, Grienke, Scherzer, De La Rosa, Pineda, Drabek, Lackey- we can start up to 6). And IMO Im buying low on Gardner.

Im giving up Reynolds who is starting to piss me off (where are the HRs?). This could hurt cuz my IF slot would need to be filled with waiver material. Upton who's in for a loooooong year in that offense. I can slot in Gardner, Sands, or Guerrero for Upton. And Ogando who will probably be out of the rotation by May anyway.

 

[Limp Ditka]

So I have the following trade offer floating out there (keep in my I play in a H2H pts league):I get:Latos, KRod, GardnerI give up:Reynolds, BJ Upton, OgandoYeah or nay?I need closer help DESPERATELY. My current "closers" besides Hanrahan are Thornton, Storen, Francisco/Rauch. KRod isnt a stud but hes solid as long as the Mets win some games lol. I get a stud SP (my current staff is ok Kershaw, Grienke, Scherzer, De La Rosa, Pineda, Drabek, Lackey- we can start up to 6). And IMO Im buying low on Gardner.Im giving up Reynolds who is starting to piss me off (where are the HRs?). This could hurt cuz my IF slot would need to be filled with waiver material. Upton who's in for a loooooong year in that offense. I can slot in Gardner, Sands, or Guerrero for Upton. And Ogando who will probably be out of the rotation by May anyway.

I'd do that without blinking. There's obviously some risk involved (Latos' ever building workload over the last two years / limited run support and Gardner's slow start), but you're arguably getting the best 3 players out of the deal.

 

[Finless]

Dynasty H2H Points League - relatively standard scoring

Offered Dan Uggla for Neftali Feliz

2nd base is my weak spot - I've got Espinosa, Lowrie, Herrera, and Ackley

I'm pretty deep with closers:

Hanrahan

Feliz

Contreras

Marmol

Storen

Thorton

Here are some offers I've put out there

Your trade offer of Pablo Sandoval for Brandon Phillips to _____ has been rejected.

Your trade offer of Jonathan Herrera,Ryan Howard,Pablo

Sandoval,Carlos Santana for Eric Hosmer,Ian Kinsler,Joey

Votto to ______ has been rejected.

This one was before Hamilton's injury - He's from Cleveland and wants Santana

Your trade offer of Josh Hamilton,Carlos Santana for Ian

Kinsler,Tim Lincecum to ________ has been rejected.

Your trade offer of Josh Hamilton,Josh Johnson,Jayson Werth

for Robinson Cano,Carl Crawford,Jon Lester to _____ has been rejected.

Sorry but Cano and Crawford aren't going anywhere

This guy asked for young guys or prospects. Offered this weeks ago...before Longo's injury and Pedro's slump

Your trade offer of Dustin Ackley,Pedro Alvarez,Evan

Longoria for Dustin Pedroia,David Wright to _______ has been rejected.

i can't give up that much. Longoria is legit, but pedroia orwright equal more than two prospects.

Howard for Cano - Pending

I haven't even got so much as one counter offer. Talk about weak.

 

[shadyridr]

Those trade offers are horrible. Stay off the drugs

 

[shadyridr]

Your trade offer of Pablo Sandoval for Brandon Phillips to _____ has been rejected.

This is the only one thats even remotely fair but Id still rather have Phillips.

Your trade offer of Jonathan Herrera,Ryan Howard,PabloSandoval,Carlos Santana for Eric Hosmer,Ian Kinsler,JoeyVotto to ______ has been rejected.

Really? A hodge podge of average to good talent for a stud 2B, a 1st rd pick, and a stud prospect? Simply laughable

Your trade offer of Josh Hamilton,Carlos Santana for IanKinsler,Tim Lincecum to ________ has been rejected.

Really? A great oft injured OFer & avg catcher for a stud 2B and a stud SP?

Your trade offer of Josh Hamilton,Josh Johnson,Jayson Werthfor Robinson Cano,Carl Crawford,Jon Lester to _____ has been rejected.

This has got to be the worst of the bunch a great, oft injured OFer, stud pitcher, and good OFer on crappy team for two 1st rounders and a stud pitcher

Your trade offer of Dustin Ackley,Pedro Alvarez,EvanLongoria for Dustin Pedroia,David Wright to _______ has been rejected.

Ackley is a solid prospect but will never be a stud, Alvarez looks like Reynolds 2.0, and a stud for a stud 2B & stud 3B. yikes

Howard for Cano - Pending

A 2nd rounder for a 1st rounder. LMAO

 

[Finless]

If you're ever in Denver, PM me so I can cave your head in.

Sandoval > Phillips

Sandoval, Howard and Santana are average? Howard is the #1 player in this league over the last 3 years. Sandoval is absolutely crushing the ball

You think Santana is going to be an average catcher? Okay

How can you, in the same sentence you're describing Hamilton as "oft injured" call Kinsler a stud? How much time has he missed mover the last 4 seasons?

Cano Howard - once again Howard has outscored Cano every year in this league except last. Its not even close.

You describer Hosmer as a "stud prospect" and Santana as average. Who was rated higher all of last year? It's easy to judge one player call him a stud while he's still facing minors. Chances he comes up and continues to be a stud? Not what you think but actual odds he falls flat? Pretty good.

3 Year Averages

Howard - 615

Votto -545

Werth - 543 "OMG He's on a ####ty team" How has that affected Braun, Fielder, Cabrera, Hanley, David Wright, the list goes on. Just an idiotic statement.

Crawford - 525

Cano - 506

Hamilton - 491

Kinsler - 479

Sandoval in 2009 scored 545 points - last year had an off year and is having an incredible year so far. Yes, he's average.

Phillips - 484 "I'd still rather have Phillips" you would - that's why you're you

J Johnson > J Lester Carl Crawford looks to have fallen apart. I also like how you speak of Cano as if he's been fantasy elite for years. He's had two great season separated by two ####ty years. Howard has ripped this league apart since his rookie season.

When you trade you make offers. You open the door. You might try and get a nervous Crawford owner to sell since he hasn't had an extra base hit yet this year. Or a homer to overpay for a local player. You serve no purpose here. No one cares to read what you write. I'm not sure there's anyone in this forum who would have your back in any way. You're a troll...plain and simple.

This is a points league, not a roto league. Go troll somewhere else. You seriously add absolutely nothing anywhere. Like I said lets see if anyone backs you. Some Yankee fan might come crawling to your aid but even that would surprise me because as long as I've been here I've never heard anyone say a good thing about you.

 

[rascal]

I've been offered: Kendrys Morales and Brian Wilson (or Papelbon) for Justin Morneau and Kevin Gregg.

I would like to improve my pitching staff as so far I've lost WHIP and ERA every week (split Wins, K/BB, and K), but with Burnett losing his job to Storen and Gregg being in a potential timeshare with Uehara (and generally sucking) it would be nice to have three stud closers. Basically my SP are a 1b pitcher in Ubaldo and a slew of #3s.

Eventually I would like to have Jeter start doing well and trading him (obviously this is also conditional on Lowrie developing in the the full time starter) as several teams are desperate for SS help.

My team:

C: Geovany Soto

1B: Miguel Cabrera

2B: Brandon Phillips

SS: Derek Jeter

3B: Pablo Sandoval

UTL: Mark Teixeira, Justin Morneau

OF: Matt Holliday, Curtis Granderson, Bobby Abreu

Bench: Jed Lowrie

SP: Ubaldo Jimenez, Edwin Jackson, Chad Billingsley, Trevor Cahill, Matt Garza, Aaron Harang, Jarr Jurrjens, James Shields

RP: Mariano Rivera, Joel Hanrahan, Kevin Gregg, Sean Burnett

 

[Finless]

And why is it that Ackley will never be a stud? Tell us more...please. Most lists have him inside the top 10 and the #1 2nd base prospect. I wonder why that is? You must know better than the scouts. Just avoid my posts in the future. I'm pretty calm around here. I rarely if ever rip on anyone. This is the 3rd or 4th time you've come in and commented after me acting like a 13 year old. Seriously just avoid me in the future.

 

[shadyridr]

If you're ever in Denver, PM me so I can cave your head in.Sandoval > PhillipsSandoval, Howard and Santana are average? Howard is the #1 player in this league over the last 3 years. Sandoval is absolutely crushing the ballYou think Santana is going to be an average catcher? Okay How can you, in the same sentence you're describing Hamilton as "oft injured" call Kinsler a stud? How much time has he missed mover the last 4 seasons?Cano Howard - once again Howard has outscored Cano every year in this league except last. Its not even close.You describer Hosmer as a "stud prospect" and Santana as average. Who was rated higher all of last year? It's easy to judge one player call him a stud while he's still facing minors. Chances he comes up and continues to be a stud? Not what you think but actual odds he falls flat? Pretty good.3 Year AveragesHoward - 615Votto -545Werth - 543 "OMG He's on a ####ty team" How has that affected Braun, Fielder, Cabrera, Hanley, David Wright, the list goes on. Just an idiotic statement.Crawford - 525Cano - 506Hamilton - 491Kinsler - 479Sandoval in 2009 scored 545 points - last year had an off year and is having an incredible year so far. Yes, he's average.Phillips - 484 "I'd still rather have Phillips" you would - that's why you're you J Johnson > J Lester Carl Crawford looks to have fallen apart. I also like how you speak of Cano as if he's been fantasy elite for years. He's had two great season separated by two ####ty years. Howard has ripped this league apart since his rookie season.When you trade you make offers. You open the door. You might try and get a nervous Crawford owner to sell since he hasn't had an extra base hit yet this year. Or a homer to overpay for a local player. You serve no purpose here. No one cares to read what you write. I'm not sure there's anyone in this forum who would have your back in any way. You're a troll...plain and simple.This is a points league, not a roto league. Go troll somewhere else. You seriously add absolutely nothing anywhere. Like I said lets see if anyone backs you. Some Yankee fan might come crawling to your aid but even that would surprise me because as long as I've been here I've never heard anyone say a good thing about you.

Were all your trade offers rejected? /thread

 

[shadyridr]

You serve no purpose here. No one cares to read what you write. I'm not sure there's anyone in this forum who would have your back in any way. You're a troll...plain and simple.This is a points league, not a roto league. Go troll somewhere else. You seriously add absolutely nothing anywhere. Like I said lets see if anyone backs you. Some Yankee fan might come crawling to your aid but even that would surprise me because as long as I've been here I've never heard anyone say a good thing about you.

boo hoo. Now I wont be able to sleep at night. Seriously put me on ignore if you want.

 

[shadyridr]

And why is it that Ackley will never be a stud? Tell us more...please. Most lists have him inside the top 10 and the #1 2nd base prospect. I wonder why that is? You must know better than the scouts. Just avoid my posts in the future. I'm pretty calm around here. I rarely if ever rip on anyone. This is the 3rd or 4th time you've come in and commented after me acting like a 13 year old. Seriously just avoid me in the future.

put me on ignore. problem solved

 

[shadyridr]

If you're ever in Denver, PM me so I can cave your head in.

really dude? Its the internet.

Sandoval > Phillips

I said this one was fair. Id rather have Phillips. Its debatable

Sandoval, Howard and Santana are average? Howard is the #1 player in this league over the last 3 years. Sandoval is absolutely crushing the ball

You think Santana is going to be an average catcher? Okay

This year yeah. Down the road who knows, probably not.

How can you, in the same sentence you're describing Hamilton as "oft injured" call Kinsler a stud? How much time has he missed mover the last 4 seasons?

One's a 2B the other is an OFer. Id rather take the risk on the oft injured 2B, hence the use of the word stud.

Cano Howard - once again Howard has outscored Cano every year in this league except last. Its not even close.

Do you get past pts when you make trades?

You describer Hosmer as a "stud prospect" and Santana as average. Who was rated higher all of last year? It's easy to judge one player call him a stud while he's still facing minors. Chances he comes up and continues to be a stud? Not what you think but actual odds he falls flat? Pretty good.

I called Santana an average catcher right now. Hes not a prospect anymore

J Johnson > J Lester Carl Crawford looks to have fallen apart. I also like how you speak of Cano as if he's been fantasy elite for years. He's had two great season separated by two ####ty years. Howard has ripped this league apart since his rookie season.

I agree Johnson > Lester but not dramatically enough to offset the rest of that trade. All I did was call Cano a 1st rounder.

 

[shadyridr]

I've been offered: Kendrys Morales and Brian Wilson (or Papelbon) for Justin Morneau and Kevin Gregg.I would like to improve my pitching staff as so far I've lost WHIP and ERA every week (split Wins, K/BB, and K), but with Burnett losing his job to Storen and Gregg being in a potential timeshare with Uehara (and generally sucking) it would be nice to have three stud closers. Basically my SP are a 1b pitcher in Ubaldo and a slew of #3s.Eventually I would like to have Jeter start doing well and trading him (obviously this is also conditional on Lowrie developing in the the full time starter) as several teams are desperate for SS help.My team:C: Geovany Soto1B: Miguel Cabrera2B: Brandon PhillipsSS: Derek Jeter3B: Pablo SandovalUTL: Mark Teixeira, Justin MorneauOF: Matt Holliday, Curtis Granderson, Bobby AbreuBench: Jed LowrieSP: Ubaldo Jimenez, Edwin Jackson, Chad Billingsley, Trevor Cahill, Matt Garza, Aaron Harang, Jarr Jurrjens, James ShieldsRP: Mariano Rivera, Joel Hanrahan, Kevin Gregg, Sean Burnett

Id rather have Wilson than Paps. I think Id do that if I were you. Slide Lowrie in to UTIL for now until Morales comes back. Its not like Morneau has done anything. Is Trumbo available?

 

[rascal]

I've been offered: Kendrys Morales and Brian Wilson (or Papelbon) for Justin Morneau and Kevin Gregg.I would like to improve my pitching staff as so far I've lost WHIP and ERA every week (split Wins, K/BB, and K), but with Burnett losing his job to Storen and Gregg being in a potential timeshare with Uehara (and generally sucking) it would be nice to have three stud closers. Basically my SP are a 1b pitcher in Ubaldo and a slew of #3s.Eventually I would like to have Jeter start doing well and trading him (obviously this is also conditional on Lowrie developing in the the full time starter) as several teams are desperate for SS help.My team:C: Geovany Soto1B: Miguel Cabrera2B: Brandon PhillipsSS: Derek Jeter3B: Pablo SandovalUTL: Mark Teixeira, Justin MorneauOF: Matt Holliday, Curtis Granderson, Bobby AbreuBench: Jed LowrieSP: Ubaldo Jimenez, Edwin Jackson, Chad Billingsley, Trevor Cahill, Matt Garza, Aaron Harang, Jarr Jurrjens, James ShieldsRP: Mariano Rivera, Joel Hanrahan, Kevin Gregg, Sean Burnett

Id rather have Wilson than Paps. I think Id do that if I were you. Slide Lowrie in to UTIL for now until Morales comes back. Its not like Morneau has done anything. Is Trumbo available?

Hmmm...not sure I'll check. Slide Morales over to DL and use him in in the interim...not a bad idea.

 

[Finless]

If you're ever in Denver, PM me so I can cave your head in.

really dude? Its the internet.

Sandoval > Phillips

I said this one was fair. Id rather have Phillips. Its debatable

Sandoval, Howard and Santana are average? Howard is the #1 player in this league over the last 3 years. Sandoval is absolutely crushing the ball

You think Santana is going to be an average catcher? Okay

This year yeah. Down the road who knows, probably not.

How can you, in the same sentence you're describing Hamilton as "oft injured" call Kinsler a stud? How much time has he missed mover the last 4 seasons?

One's a 2B the other is an OFer. Id rather take the risk on the oft injured 2B, hence the use of the word stud.

Cano Howard - once again Howard has outscored Cano every year in this league except last. Its not even close.

Do you get past pts when you make trades?

You describer Hosmer as a "stud prospect" and Santana as average. Who was rated higher all of last year? It's easy to judge one player call him a stud while he's still facing minors. Chances he comes up and continues to be a stud? Not what you think but actual odds he falls flat? Pretty good.

I called Santana an average catcher right now. Hes not a prospect anymore

J Johnson > J Lester Carl Crawford looks to have fallen apart. I also like how you speak of Cano as if he's been fantasy elite for years. He's had two great season separated by two ####ty years. Howard has ripped this league apart since his rookie season.

I agree Johnson > Lester but not dramatically enough to offset the rest of that trade. All I did was call Cano a 1st rounder.

Look I don't care if someone comes in and gives advice. It's all in the delivery. You don;t have to act like an #######. I don't understand that mentality. You're right. It's just the internet. I treat it like I do real life. I talk to people with respect. Do you act like a #### to people IRL as well? That's my point. I made a post, asked some questions and you come rolling in acting like a 13 year old troll. I honestly don't get the thought process that comes before acting in that manner.You defend Kinsler over Hamilton. You use injury as one of your reasons which is laughable as Kinsler is one of the most injured players in all of baseball. Who's ADP was higher at the beginning of the season? I offered this trade prior to Hamilton's injury. I'm pretty sure Hamilton was drafted before Kinsler in just about every draft. Am I wrong about that? I don't think so.

Do you get past points when you makes trades? I know you're not this stupid. Why even ask a question like that? The sarcasm is a lot less effective when the statement it's used in contradicts itself. Anyhow, do you ignore a players historical stats? Do you make your trades based on how the players performed the previous week? I generally think it's a good idea to check out how they've performed over the years. Maybe look for trends (I had no idea how much of a down year Howard had last year ), you know?

Sandoval >>>> Phillips in a Dynasty. I don't even think that's debatable. Sandoval has more HRs, better batting average, more RBIs, he's 6 years younger, has eligibility at 1st and 3rd. He's got a relatively high ceiling. He can obviously hit for power and he's hitting for average. He's already got 5 HRs this year and he's playing for the world champions. What does Phillips have going for him? I'm a Phillips owner BTW. But yeah, what does he have going for him? He had a 30/30 year back in 2007. Hasn't impressed one year since then. Less HRs, less RBIs, less SBs, BA decreasing, SLG decreasing. I'd say he's trending in the wrong direction. He's getting worse every year, consistently. Why would you take him over Sandoval again? We know what Phillips is going to do. We know what his ceiling is and it's safe to say he's never going to do anything like that again. We haven;t seen Pablo's ceiling. We know he hit 25 dingers as a rookie. We know he's batting .350 with 5 HRs through the first few weeks of the season.

In a redraft, sure you could go Phillips (although if I were to draft right now I would go Pablo) I don't think it's open for debate in a dynasty. His ADP dropped significantly because of his off year last year. Now that all pistons are firing I think people would have taken him a LOT higher.

Anyhow, yeah, you're right. It's the internet. As far as respect goes I think that's something that is awarded to people in general. Whether they're on the internet or standing next to me. There's no reason to act like a #### since you're just on the internet.

 

[shadyridr]

I thought those trade offers were pretty bad and feel like my point was proven since they were all rejected. But I couldve said it less harshly. I wasnt trolling in my response but my response was pretty smug. I didnt think it would bother you that much. Thought you had thick skin. I apologize.

 

[Mentos]

Team A gets- Mark Teixeira, Tim Hudson, Francisco Cordero

Team B gets- Jay Bruce, Mariano Rivera

I am Team A and the commissioner of what is a 1st year keeper league.

The one guy, Team B, has been trying to get Rivera since the season started. I am loaded at the closer spot and he is shaky there. He has Prince Fielder, so that's why he can part with Teixeira.

He proposed that trade to me yesterday and I accepted it last night. I do not know the other owner. There is no collusion involved.

Two other owners #####ed about the deal big time last night with their main points being that the trade is terribly one-sided and should be vetoed. In this league, the commissioner makes the call on trades. Three previous trades were processed even though two of them saw some people ##### about fairness. I have not vetoed any.

Team B saw all the complaint posts last night and then e-mailed me this-

"I don't know if you received my earlier emails, but i'm about tired of the people #####ing about the trade. I think if you don't at least change up the trade somewhat maybe swap bruce for heyward or have me minus hudson then you will never hear the end of it. So let's do something to even the trade out in the eyes of the rest of the league."

I want to pull my hair out. We made a perfectly fine trade based upon the fact there is no silly business going on. If somebody makes a bad deal- that's tough. The other people should get over it. But, I don't know what to do. So sick of this crap. In my single season league last year four fair trades were vetoed last year because we had trades decided by league votes. A few people didn't like one trade and vetoed it. Then three of the next four trades were also vetoed and all were in retaliation of a previous trade that was vetoed.

I have been playing fantasy baseball since 2000. I experienced little to no trouble with trades from 00-09. The last two years have been a different story.

 

[shadyridr]

Yeah thats such BS. I also think the trade is lopsided in your favor but if no collusion is involved then it is obviously should not be vetoed.

 

[shadyridr]

So I have the following trade offer floating out there (keep in my I play in a H2H pts league):I get:Latos, KRod, GardnerI give up:Reynolds, BJ Upton, OgandoYeah or nay?I need closer help DESPERATELY. My current "closers" besides Hanrahan are Thornton, Storen, Francisco/Rauch. KRod isnt a stud but hes solid as long as the Mets win some games lol. I get a stud SP (my current staff is ok Kershaw, Grienke, Scherzer, De La Rosa, Pineda, Drabek, Lackey- we can start up to 6). And IMO Im buying low on Gardner.Im giving up Reynolds who is starting to piss me off (where are the HRs?). This could hurt cuz my IF slot would need to be filled with waiver material. Upton who's in for a loooooong year in that offense. I can slot in Gardner, Sands, or Guerrero for Upton. And Ogando who will probably be out of the rotation by May anyway.

Guy said no to this. I counter offered:I give- BJ Upton & Jorge De La RosaI get- KRod & Mat LatosIm a firm believer in buying low on Latos. I think its a fair offer. Am I giving up to much? I like JDLR but he screams sell high to me. Walks way too many guys.