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Can't wait for this.

Now New Orleans Is His Focus

By LARRY BLUMENFELD

New Orleans and New York

On a late-November Tuesday night in New Orleans, bodies rubbed up against one another at Bullet's Sports Bar as Kermit Ruffins coaxed high notes from his trumpet. The music was infectious, the regulars who packed the neighborhood joint for this weekly gig deeply committed to it. The next night, Mr. Ruffins was back. This time, more than a dozen thick cables snaked their way out onto A.P. Tureaud Avenue and into a sound-company trailer. It was no regular gig: "Treme," producer David Simon's latest series for HBO, was taping inside.

After an enthusiastic response to a pilot episode from HBO executives and the end of the hurricane season, Mr. Simon is back in New Orleans to complete the 10-episode premiere season, scheduled to begin its run in April.

Mr. Simon is best known for "The Wire," his previous HBO series, which earned a faithful following for its detailed, critical evocation of his hometown, Baltimore, as told through the intersecting lives of cops, dope dealers, politicians, teachers, and the journalists who reported on (or failed to cover) it all. That show's title, a reference to a police wiretap on a drug ring, also suggested unseen links between street action and the corridors of power in a city marked by postindustrial decline. "Treme" will tap directly into an indigenous culture that threads through much of daily activity in New Orleans and has served as a lifeline for many returning residents in a city still inching toward postflood recovery.

"The Wire" and much of Mr. Simon's previous television work ("Homicide," "The Corner") were natural outgrowths of his 12-year tenure as a crime reporter for the Baltimore Sun and his subsequent books. The new project owes to a more personal investigation.

"I remember stumbling into my first second-line parade maybe 20 years ago," said Mr. Simon, now 49, as he leaned back in his chair at a production office in Manhattan's West Village. "The Treme brass band went up Orleans Avenue to Claiborne Avenue, then stopped under the I-10 bridge. The echo was fantastic. They went past the Lafitte projects and people came out of their homes to join in. I was all the way up in Mid-City before I realized I'd walked 30 blocks and would have to walk all the way back. I didn't know exactly what was going on, but I was hooked."

The new series draws its name from Tremé, which some consider the oldest black neighborhood in America, and which has long been a hothouse for New Orleans jazz. It will focus largely on those who shape the city's cultural identity: traditional jazz and brass-band musicians; Social Aid & Pleasure Club members who mount Sunday second-line parades; and perhaps the most mysterious and essential group of all—Mardi Gras Indians, who, dressed in elaborate feathered and beaded suits, pay homage to both the Indians who once sheltered runaway slaves and to the spirit of African-American resistance.

Mr. Simon recalls his astonishment at happening upon two Mardi Gras Indian chiefs confronting each other through a ritual of chants, dances and postures, and the delight in his son Ethan's eyes the first time he heard a brass band play. When he took Ethan to New Orleans once for Mardi Gras, he told teachers they were attending a religious ceremony (a not entirely fraudulent excuse).

"I'd thought for quite some time about a series about New Orleans, a drama based in American roots music," said Mr. Simon. "But obviously it gave it a political relevance when Katrina happened. And it gave us the opportunity to get in a room and talk about doing this kind of a show with executives in L.A."

It also lent the idea new meaning. "We want to consider," he said, "whether or not what is essential and rare and unique about New Orleans, and what it provides the American character, is going to survive in a form that is self-sustaining and organic, not just a museum piece."

Mr. Simon takes on a daunting task in capturing the not well understood and somewhat insular subcultures he's chosen as his focus. With any success, he can achieve something mightier too—an understanding of the essential role musicians play in New Orleans's social order and recovery, as well as the embattled position they often find themselves in. Mr. Simon, a master at portraying systematic dysfunction, will no doubt turn a lens on the curious and combative relationship between the city's culture bearers and its power brokers. (In 2007, Social Aid & Pleasure Clubs took the city to federal court over raised permit fees, for instance; Mardi Gras Indian assemblies have suffered police intimidation.)

"Will David Simon's New Orleans-set series be too weird for the world?" asked the headline to an April column by New Orleans Times-Picayune television reporter Dave Walker. New Orleans is famously idiosyncratic, right down to how locals refer to the most mundane elements of life (paved street medians, for instance, are "neutral grounds"). "It's easy to get it terribly wrong," said Mr. Simon, "and terribly hard to get it right." It helps that Mr. Simon's frequent collaborator, and a co-creator of "Treme," Eric Overmyer, has owned a home in New Orleans for 20 years. Mr. Simon also hired Times-Picayune reporter Lolis Eric Elie, who co-produced the 2008 documentary "Faubourg Tremé: The Untold Story of Black New Orleans," and local author Tom Piazza for the writing staff.

Actor Wendell Pierce, who portrayed Bunk Moreland on "The Wire," was born and raised in the city's Pontchartrain Park neighborhood; he will portray trombonist Antoine Batiste, whose last name evokes one of the city's storied musical lineages. Clarke Peters (detective Lester Freamon on "The Wire") plays a Mardi Gras Indian Chief who is also a jazz musician: His scenes were vetted by Donald Harrison, a New Orleans native who straddles both worlds in real life. Davis Rogan, a pianist who once gave informal lessons to Mr. Simon's son, will share knowledge of local music history with actor Steve Zahn, who plays a local DJ and music enthusiast. And Mr. Ruffins, fedora askew, bandana peeking out beneath it, will get significant screen time. ("There wasn't any use in casting someone else," Mr. Simon said with a laugh. "Only Kermit can play Kermit.")

'This won't be 'The Wire' with a better soundtrack," Mr. Simon said. "It's a completely different animal." Yet in one significant way he seems to be extending his previous theme. "We just want to create a drama about why the American city matters," he said. This time around, the answer centers on culture, which represents an entirely new, perhaps transformative, storyline. And about that soundtrack: It's guaranteed to swing like nothing ever has on TV.

 
I'm going to give it a chance, but; and I'm going to sound like a jerk here I'm so done with hurricane Katrina stories.

 
I don't get it. Just watched the premiere and I won't be watching again.

Other than some great Jazz, no reason to watch it.

 
I don't get it. Just watched the premiere and I won't be watching again. Other than some great Jazz, no reason to watch it.
I'm going to assume that you haven't seen The Wire. David Simon shows are slow to unravel because they throw you in the middle of a culture and characters without explanation, expecting the viewer to stick with it and pick things up as it goes along. For those of us who saw the reward from our patience with The Wire, we will certainly give Treme that time.
 
I don't get it. Just watched the premiere and I won't be watching again. Other than some great Jazz, no reason to watch it.
I'm going to assume that you haven't seen The Wire. David Simon shows are slow to unravel because they throw you in the middle of a culture and characters without explanation, expecting the viewer to stick with it and pick things up as it goes along. For those of us who saw the reward from our patience with The Wire, we will certainly give Treme that time.
yeah, i think the wire started at one point when i didn't have HBO. they probably would have had me hooked if they'd have shown kim dickens' butt in the opening minutes, rather than steve zahn's.
 
Im not going to watch until next week after I have 2 episodes recorded, but I will be amazed if I dont like this show. The cast looks great. Im a huge fan of John Goodman and also Steve Zahn. The rest of the cast has solid lesser names - Khandi Alexander, Kim Dickens, Rob Brown - and of course The Wire favorite Wendell Pierce (Bunk) and Clarke Peters (Lester).

If Simon is able to make these characters and interesting, likeable, and layered as the dozens and dozens he did on The Wire, this show will be amazing. Supposed to be a ton of music too which is just icing on the cake.

 
I'm about 1 hour into the premiere, had to go to sleep before finishing last night.

I like it so far, the lester freeman character and the music are the best parts IMO. I hope the John Gooman character loses this anger-at-the-system shtick because it's kinda annoying.

 
I'm about 1 hour into the premiere, had to go to sleep before finishing last night.

I like it so far, the lester freeman character and the music are the best parts IMO. I hope the John Gooman character loses this anger-at-the-system shtick because it's kinda annoying.
No matter how many seasons Treme goes, I will always refer to him as Lester Freeman.
 
i dug it. i appreciated how they were arranging the pieces for the characters. very measured and solid approach. i am intrigued, if nothing else.

 
Doh

I thought this was going to start after the Pacific is over.

Its OK because its HBO and it will be on every night on some channel.

Adding to my DVR.

 
Wife and I will watch this evening. I'm quite ok with the characters and story building slowly as in The Wire!!

 
bweiser said:
Gadfly said:
bweiser said:
I don't get it. Just watched the premiere and I won't be watching again. Other than some great Jazz, no reason to watch it.
I'm going to assume that you haven't seen The Wire. David Simon shows are slow to unravel because they throw you in the middle of a culture and characters without explanation, expecting the viewer to stick with it and pick things up as it goes along. For those of us who saw the reward from our patience with The Wire, we will certainly give Treme that time.
yeah, i think the wire started at one point when i didn't have HBO. they probably would have had me hooked if they'd have shown kim dickens' butt in the opening minutes, rather than steve zahn's.
Yeah, I was saying if you're going to make us look at Zahn's butt than at least show us her boobs.
 
bweiser said:
Gadfly said:
bweiser said:
I don't get it. Just watched the premiere and I won't be watching again. Other than some great Jazz, no reason to watch it.
I'm going to assume that you haven't seen The Wire. David Simon shows are slow to unravel because they throw you in the middle of a culture and characters without explanation, expecting the viewer to stick with it and pick things up as it goes along. For those of us who saw the reward from our patience with The Wire, we will certainly give Treme that time.
yeah, i think the wire started at one point when i didn't have HBO. they probably would have had me hooked if they'd have shown kim dickens' butt in the opening minutes, rather than steve zahn's.
Yeah, I was saying if you're going to make us look at Zahn's butt than at least show us her boobs.
See Hollow Man
 
It definately feels authentic, I think they did their research, the characters were believable. Looks like they are going to give us a lot of New Orleans music, that in itself should be great.

As far as the episode itself, it definately started a little slow. I don't know if it will flow as good as the Wire did, looks like a different sort of show.

 
It definately feels authentic, I think they did their research, the characters were believable. Looks like they are going to give us a lot of New Orleans music, that in itself should be great.

As far as the episode itself, it definately started a little slow. I don't know if it will flow as good as the Wire did, looks like a different sort of show.
i think this is very true. maybe more like "the corner"...
 
snitwitch said:
I'm about 1 hour into the premiere, had to go to sleep before finishing last night.

I like it so far, the lester freeman character and the music are the best parts IMO. I hope the John Gooman character loses this anger-at-the-system shtick because it's kinda annoying.
He is hitting the chords of anger that resonated in New Orleans for a long time after the storm. It may not make good theater, but it is true to life.
 
It definately feels authentic, I think they did their research, the characters were believable. Looks like they are going to give us a lot of New Orleans music, that in itself should be great.

As far as the episode itself, it definately started a little slow. I don't know if it will flow as good as the Wire did, looks like a different sort of show.
I have mixed emotions on this. Some of this was true to life...some of it wasn't.One of the glaring things to me, and this may not matter to most people, but when the older guy(the chief...the guy who's daughter drove him down to New Orleans from Houston), was the condition of the guy's house.

From the several houses in the family that I entered, that is just not the way they looked. If he had that much water(they showed the water line on the pictures), the furniture would have been completely scattered and none of them upright. It may seem like a small detail, but a detail that should have been right.

Three months after the storm there was still MUCH more debris on the street than was shown. I know this is small, but to me it lacked authenticity.

 
I made it through 40 mins and turned it off. Really boring. I am a big fan of the Wire and I dont recall that starting slow like some are saying here. I found Goodman to be way over the top annoying. Goodman has also ventured into that relm of being so fat that it disgusts me. The dj guy was to cool for me also. What was the deal with him playing the loud music to the neighbors even when he was not home? If I was those neighbors there would be no speakers for him to return to. Maybe it is explained later on? Like I said he was way to cool for me.

I may try it again just to see if I was in a funk when I watched it. I did like seeing Lester and Bunk again.

 
I made it through 40 mins and turned it off. Really boring. I am a big fan of the Wire and I dont recall that starting slow like some are saying here. I found Goodman to be way over the top annoying. Goodman has also ventured into that relm of being so fat that it disgusts me. The dj guy was to cool for me also. What was the deal with him playing the loud music to the neighbors even when he was not home? If I was those neighbors there would be no speakers for him to return to. Maybe it is explained later on? Like I said he was way to cool for me.

I may try it again just to see if I was in a funk when I watched it. I did like seeing Lester and Bunk again.
I agree. I am not sure what that does except show that he is a big jerk.From most accounts, neighbors who had never spoken previously who returned to the city became fast friends. With all the struggles against the local, state, and federal governments the city united. His actions, especially only three months after the storm, did not make much sense or seem to have a place in the overall narrative.

 
Lot of music on the show, but my favorite song was Louis Prima's "Buona Sera". I remember my mom and aunt talking about his music, but I never remember hearing any of it.

Link to music played on the show.

 
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It definately feels authentic, I think they did their research, the characters were believable. Looks like they are going to give us a lot of New Orleans music, that in itself should be great.

As far as the episode itself, it definately started a little slow. I don't know if it will flow as good as the Wire did, looks like a different sort of show.
I have mixed emotions on this. Some of this was true to life...some of it wasn't.One of the glaring things to me, and this may not matter to most people, but when the older guy(the chief...the guy who's daughter drove him down to New Orleans from Houston), was the condition of the guy's house.

From the several houses in the family that I entered, that is just not the way they looked. If he had that much water(they showed the water line on the pictures), the furniture would have been completely scattered and none of them upright. It may seem like a small detail, but a detail that should have been right.

Three months after the storm there was still MUCH more debris on the street than was shown. I know this is small, but to me it lacked authenticity.
I agree Saints-Man and when they where driving over the GNO, the Dome was WHITE!!!!! 3 months after the storm the Dome WAS NOT WHITE!!!!

 
I wasn't exactly pulled into episode 1, but I'll give this at least another few shows. I don't remember the Wire ever geting off to this slow a start, but theyare known for building up plot lines.

 
1. Simon & his actors have nailed New Orleans better than anything i've seen on screen.

2. All of the characters are awesome. Zahn's seems to be getting some grief, but he is like 20 people I know.

3. I know a place where most of them love to eat. :ptts:

 
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Caught it last night. I liked it and agree with the DJ. I did not get that part at all.
From a review I read:
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That is lame unless you are 16 years old. I'm thinking this neighbor war extends well beyond a need for rebellion. I've had several neighbors worthy of blaring my music at them.I did not need to see his naked ### however.

 
1. Simon & his actors have nailed New Orleans better than anything i've seen on screen.

2. All of the characters are awesome. Zahn's seems to be getting some grief, but he is like 20 people I know.

3. I know a place where most of them love to eat. :confused:
i totally agree.
 
Sounds like the DJ character is representative of the life there. Would not have known that had it not been for the NOLA guys. Thanks

Tipsy, they eat at your place. Make sure you get pics for the wall

 
And that scene with Big Chief in his full gear.....that was awesome. Running into a Chief in random part of the city during mardi gras is one of the coolest, if not weirdest, things to stumble on down here. Usually they have a big group, sometimes just one guy strutting in the middle of a street completely devoid of anything or anybody. I'm no expert on the Mardi Gras indians, I just know they are cool as hell.

 
I wasn't exactly pulled into episode 1, but I'll give this at least another few shows. I don't remember the Wire ever geting off to this slow a start, but theyare known for building up plot lines.
I remember trying to start the wire like 3 times before I could get 3 or 4 episodes in, when things started to make sense and it became enjoyable.I finished the pilot for treme last night, I have to say I like it and will be watching episode 2. Although it doesn't have the bad ### cops and robber stuff going on that the wire did, it seems like a very high quality TV drama based on interesting subject matter. And the music is dope.edited for spelling
 
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