Troy Smith (1 Viewer)

[chook]

Pre-draft many were down on this kid due to his height, speed, ability to adapt to the pro game etc., but I can't help thinking he couldn't have landed in a better spot. He could be an absolute steal late in rookie drafts for those with the roster space and patience to wait.

JP posted this in another thread about a month ago....

All right, all right.

You guys want a dark horse / deep sleeper for Dynasty QB?

There's a QB in NFL Europa right now that was picked up last year after the draft as an UDFA. He's 3rd on the depth chart, but you won't find that right now.

He's preceded by an aging QB with about 2 yrs left in the tank and the #2 QB who is a free agent at the end of the year.

Drew Olson, Baltimore / UCLA / Amsterdam Admirals

With a better pedigree, Smith now fills that spot Olson would have taken. The situation hasn't changed at all; McNair still only has a year or two at best left in him and Boller is a FA at the end of the year.Smith's FBG dynasty QB ranking lies at #34 (right behind McNair and above Boller), while he's the 5th QB in the rookie ranks (just above Edwards).

I'm not saying he's going to be a superstar; many NFL scouts have seemingly already told us he won't. However while sleeper LB's (from a weak crop) & WR's are flying off the board late in rookie drafts, Smith looks like a very sneaky pick who should have a decent shot at starting in the NFL for a while.

I don't own Smith in any leagues and am not a Ravens fan. Just thought I'd see what the SP brethren think on this one since there hasn't been a whole heap of talk about him post-draft

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Troy Smith should be the #2 guy after this season as Boller's done in Baltimore (contract ends).

I think Derrick Mason is closer to done as well.

So, Smith will have a good TE (Heap) and a solid WR (Mark Clayton) to target. IIRC, Smith was questioned on arm speed and accuracy. That would hurt Demetrius Williams' deep ball threats (and Clayton's), and Baltimore might do better with two "move the chains" type WRs and leave Demetrius at the 3rd WR / slot guy.

McGahee, if folded in right, can also help in catching and in blitz pickup.

Baltimore is still Defense, Run, Run some more, Special Teams, then pass. They threw well last year because the run game wasn't very good (and McNair did well). However, Billick is used to calling run games, controlling the clock, and letting his D / ST try and win it for him. (How's that "offensive guru" label doing, Brian?)

I think the spot is pretty good for Smith - but, I don't see MAJOR upside. I think top end is like Jake Delhomme or Plummer, with much worse low side. QB2 fantasy type guy max - I can't see how he'd be Top 12.

 

[chris1969]

Chicago would have been better.

 

[chook]

I think the spot is pretty good for Smith - but, I don't see MAJOR upside. I think top end is like Jake Delhomme or Plummer, with much worse low side. QB2 fantasy type guy max - I can't see how he'd be Top 12.

That's around where I was thinking, however Delhomme & Plummer have both been top 10 QB's at one point of their careers; maybe like them Smith might become more value if he moves elsewhere after a few years in Balimore.It'd be good to see him do well just because so many out there said he wouldn't.

 

[Assani Fisher]

I'm a Ravens homer, so take this FWIW...

I really think they're making a mistake letting Boller go. Hes shown solid improvement throughout his career. He was so young when he was drafted, and I feel as if many people don't take this into account when evaluating him. As crazy as it seems, I'm almost hoping for a McNair injury this year so Boller can show his stuff and we'll lock him up longterm. If not, I think some team is going to get a steal in the FA market in Boller.

OP said that Smith is ranked above Boller in the dynasty rankings. Well then Boller would be the sleeper that I would target, not Smith.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I'm a Ravens homer, so take this FWIW...I really think they're making a mistake letting Boller go. Hes shown solid improvement throughout his career. He was so young when he was drafted, and I feel as if many people don't take this into account when evaluating him. As crazy as it seems, I'm almost hoping for a McNair injury this year so Boller can show his stuff and we'll lock him up longterm. If not, I think some team is going to get a steal in the FA market in Boller.OP said that Smith is ranked above Boller in the dynasty rankings. Well then Boller would be the sleeper that I would target, not Smith.

I'm not a Ravens homer, but the few times that I have seen Boller play I have come away mildly surprised. I think the guy has talent and put in the right situation could thrive.

 

[chook]

I'm a Ravens homer, so take this FWIW...

I really think they're making a mistake letting Boller go. Hes shown solid improvement throughout his career. He was so young when he was drafted, and I feel as if many people don't take this into account when evaluating him. As crazy as it seems, I'm almost hoping for a McNair injury this year so Boller can show his stuff and we'll lock him up longterm. If not, I think some team is going to get a steal in the FA market in Boller.

OP said that Smith is ranked above Boller in the dynasty rankings. Well then Boller would be the sleeper that I would target, not Smith.

Not saying Boller isn't a potential sleeper, but he's also not available to target in rookie drafts.

 

[SofaKings]

Cullen Finnerty will probably pass him on the depth chart.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Cullen Finnerty will probably pass him on the depth chart.

A lot of people like Finnerty, but I did not get to see him play at Grand Valley, and he wasnt on the all-star circuit this year. He's the winningest QB in NCAA history (50 wins), so he's doing something right. He has to be better than Drew Olsen.

 

[Jedeye]

Troy Smith is in an ideal situation in Baltimore. He'll get to sit behind McNair (who has a very similar style) for a couple of years and learn, much like McNair did. I think he can be a middle-of-the-road type of fantasy quarterback. As far as NFL quaterbacks, I think his upside is much higher, which upsets me as a Browns fan but excites me as a Buckeye fan.

 

[chook]

Cullen Finnerty will probably pass him on the depth chart.

A lot of people like Finnerty, but I did not get to see him play at Grand Valley, and he wasnt on the all-star circuit this year. He's the winningest QB in NCAA history (50 wins), so he's doing something right. He has to be better than Drew Olsen.

Surely neither Finnerty or Olson could pass Boller this season....?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Cullen Finnerty will probably pass him on the depth chart.

A lot of people like Finnerty, but I did not get to see him play at Grand Valley, and he wasnt on the all-star circuit this year. He's the winningest QB in NCAA history (50 wins), so he's doing something right. He has to be better than Drew Olsen.

Surely neither Finnerty or Olson could pass Boller this season....?

I must have missed them adding Finnerty.So now it is:1 - McNair2 - Boller3 - Troy Smith / Drew Olsen / Finnerty battle?I'd think that Finnerty could be a Practice Squad guy as he'd slip thru waivers, but they'll have to cut Smith or Olsen. Olsen's doing ok in NFL-E last I checked.....

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm a Ravens homer, so take this FWIW...I really think they're making a mistake letting Boller go. Hes shown solid improvement throughout his career. He was so young when he was drafted, and I feel as if many people don't take this into account when evaluating him. As crazy as it seems, I'm almost hoping for a McNair injury this year so Boller can show his stuff and we'll lock him up longterm. If not, I think some team is going to get a steal in the FA market in Boller.OP said that Smith is ranked above Boller in the dynasty rankings. Well then Boller would be the sleeper that I would target, not Smith.

I'm not a Ravens homer, but the few times that I have seen Boller play I have come away mildly surprised. I think the guy has talent and put in the right situation could thrive.

While I agree with both posters, I think they have to get rid of Boller just for political reasons. Bilichick gave him multiple tries to be the starter, and if Ravens fans see him go to that well again they could start getting crabby (sic). Even if you like Boller, his future lies elsewhere in the NFL. My suspicion is that he goes to the Panthers this offseason and competes with Carr, possibly to start if Delhomme struggles this year. Carolina likes Boller.

 

[chris1969]

Troy Smith ended up in a really good situation for himself, Mcnair and Troy already had a decent relationship prior to the draft Mcnair had Troy do some work at his Summer camp a couple of seasons ago. Smith gets a great teacher and time to sit back and adjust to the NFL. I like Boller, however Ravens do not seem to trust him and seem to like a slightly more mobile options with Mcnair and Smith. Smith will work hard and has alot of guts and has been here before(meaning alot of people doubting him). Justin Zwick came to OSU has the #1 qb recruit and Troy got the last scholarship as a athelete with potential.Troy showed he can adapt from his Junior to Senior year using his arm alot more than his legs, but Smith has skills with those legs as well. I recently was staring at a tough decision in a Keeper league draft with the 2.12 which is the last pick of the draft and I considered taking Troy IF another player had gone prior Troy would have been on the board and I would have had to select him or a backup RB. I ended up selecting Drew Stanton...I gave Troy some thought not so much because of Troy as where he landed...I already know what Troy is capable of doing. I think the Ravens got a very Low risk and extremly high award pick. I'm bias for sure i just want the kid to do well now that he's back out of the spotlight once again.

I'm a homer too, but the thing I really like about Smith his grasp of what OSU wanted from a QB. They knew he could run it like Vick, but they wanted the ball in their WR's hands. He did a good job of only running when he had to. He did exactly what ATL has been trying to get Vick to do for a while.

 

[Family Matters]

Troy Smith ended up in a really good situation for himself, Mcnair and Troy already had a decent relationship prior to the draft Mcnair had Troy do some work at his Summer camp a couple of seasons ago. Smith gets a great teacher and time to sit back and adjust to the NFL. I like Boller, however Ravens do not seem to trust him and seem to like a slightly more mobile options with Mcnair and Smith. Smith will work hard and has alot of guts and has been here before(meaning alot of people doubting him). Justin Zwick came to OSU has the #1 qb recruit and Troy got the last scholarship as a athelete with potential.Troy showed he can adapt from his Junior to Senior year using his arm alot more than his legs, but Smith has skills with those legs as well. I recently was staring at a tough decision in a Keeper league draft with the 2.12 which is the last pick of the draft and I considered taking Troy IF another player had gone prior Troy would have been on the board and I would have had to select him or a backup RB. I ended up selecting Drew Stanton...I gave Troy some thought not so much because of Troy as where he landed...I already know what Troy is capable of doing. I think the Ravens got a very Low risk and extremly high award pick. I'm bias for sure i just want the kid to do well now that he's back out of the spotlight once again.

I'm a homer too, but the thing I really like about Smith his grasp of what OSU wanted from a QB. They knew he could run it like Vick, but they wanted the ball in their WR's hands. He did a good job of only running when he had to. He did exactly what ATL has been trying to get Vick to do for a while.

 

[SOmojo]

I think Troy Smith is destined, at best, for a short career in NFL Europe, then off to never be heard from again.

Poll Choice: Simply not good enough for the NFL level.

 

[Reservoir Dog]

I think he went into a great situation, probably best case scenario. I see him as the next Trent Dilfer.

 

[Da Guru]

I think he went into a great situation, probably best case scenario. I see him as the next Trent Dilfer.

Except all the defense will be dead by the time he takes over.

 

[chook]

Ravens rookie QB Smith impressive thus far

Written by: Mike Preston ¦ 6/2/2007

Source: www.baltimoresun.com

Team workouts have been conducted in only shorts and shoulder pads, but rookie quarterback Troy Smith has been impressive. He has a strong arm and moves around well. More importantly, he hasn't thrown a lot of interceptions.

Things might be different when the team is in full gear and all the players report, especially the defensive line. Because he is only 6 feet, there is a concern that a lot of Smith's passes will get knocked down at the line of scrimmage, which is one reason his stock dropped in the April draft.

But so far, so good for the former Ohio State quarterback.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/

 

[Family Matters]

Ravens rookie QB Smith impressive thus far

Written by: Mike Preston ¦ 6/2/2007

Source: www.baltimoresun.com

Team workouts have been conducted in only shorts and shoulder pads, but rookie quarterback Troy Smith has been impressive. He has a strong arm and moves around well. More importantly, he hasn't thrown a lot of interceptions.

Things might be different when the team is in full gear and all the players report, especially the defensive line. Because he is only 6 feet, there is a concern that a lot of Smith's passes will get knocked down at the line of scrimmage, which is one reason his stock dropped in the April draft.

But so far, so good for the former Ohio State quarterback.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/

As he has always done, he will over achieve from the main stream expectations. I'm not surprised to hear this at all.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Ravens rookie QB Smith impressive thus far

Written by: Mike Preston ¦ 6/2/2007

Source: www.baltimoresun.com

Team workouts have been conducted in only shorts and shoulder pads, but rookie quarterback Troy Smith has been impressive. He has a strong arm and moves around well. More importantly, he hasn't thrown a lot of interceptions.

Things might be different when the team is in full gear and all the players report, especially the defensive line. Because he is only 6 feet, there is a concern that a lot of Smith's passes will get knocked down at the line of scrimmage, which is one reason his stock dropped in the April draft.

But so far, so good for the former Ohio State quarterback.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/

As he has always done, he will over achieve from the main stream expectations. I'm not surprised to hear this at all.

I like hearing the optimistic report - also hearing that McNair is taking the time out to mentor Smith. I also read that Smith is working on throwing more than one speed - which would indicate that he's very far away from being ready to play - which makes sense considering he was only the full time starting QB for one year. He's still RAW.

 

[Jedeye]

Troy Smith is raw, its true. But he's also one of the most coachable players you'll come across. As I stated earlier, his situation in Baltimore is ideal for a player like him. Five or six years from now, we might be saying that he was the steal of this draft.