Twitter mock draft tonight (from Sat. March 24th) (1 Viewer)

[Jeff Haseley]

To those of you on twitter, I am setting up a mock draft tonight at least one round, maybe two or three. Looking for a representative for each team. Keep in mind, No first round picks for OAK, ATL or NO.

Mock Draft Time 8pm et. I will set up tweetchat.com using hashtag #mocktonight

If interested, sign up on this thread or send me a message via twitter @JeffHaseley. Lots of teams available. Hopefully we can get a rep for each team.

Round one order

Indianapolis QB Andrew Luck

Washington QB Robert Griffin III

Minnesota @TheOnlyMerkules WR Justin Blackmon

Cleveland @BurnRiverSports RB Trent Richardson

Tampa Bay @toenail21 OT Matt Kalil

St. Louis @FFootballU DT Fletcher Cox

Jacksonville @DonnieSmith14 CB Morris Claiborne

Miami @SamDrewTakesOn DE Quinton Coples

Carolina @JeffHaseley DT Dontari Poe

Buffalo @BNQuinlan OT Riley Reiff

Kansas City @cgrn731 DE Melvin Ingram

Seattle @DaPhins LB Luke Keuchly

Arizona @azdoughboy1 OG David DeCastro

Dallas @FFootballU CB Stephon Gilmore

Philadelphia @Bill_Riccette DE Michael Brockers

New York Jets @rjconn007 DE Courtney Upshaw

Cincinnati @DaPhins CB Janoris Jenkins

San Diego @azdoughboy1 WR Michael Floyd

Chicago @snotick DE Nick Perry

Tennessee @BrewPython27 C Peter Konz

Cincinnati @DaPhins OT Cordy Glenn

Cleveland @BurnRiverSports OT Jonathan Martin

Detroit @GrindMark CB Dre Kirkpatrick

Pittsburgh @5ish_ LB Dont'a Hightower

Denver @bron1cos DT Devon Still

Houston @wcsteelerfan LB Bruce Irvin

New England @Redsoxnation88 S Harrison Smith

Green Bay @FFootballU RB Doug Martin

Baltimore @cgrn731 S Mark Barron

San Francisco @Fatkat52 OG Kevin Zeitler

New England @RedSoxNation88 DE Whitney Mercilus

New York Giants @DaPhins OT Mike Adams

 

[Jeff Haseley]

@5ish_ in for PIT

@jeremyzang CIN

 

[Jeff Haseley]

@BurnRiverSports CLE

 

[Zimm]

I am down for Cincinnati or the Rams @FFootballU

 

[Jeff Haseley]

@FFootballU STL (CIN taken)

 

[Jeff Haseley]

@BNQuinlan BUF

 

[Jeff Haseley]

@SamDrewTakeson MIA

 

[Jeff Haseley]

@bron1cos DEN

 

[bigreese82]

@the_dheard tennessee titans

 

[Jeff Haseley]

@snotick CHI

 

[Jeff Haseley]

@aikman7606 DAL

@Redsoxnation88 NE

 

[Jeff Haseley]

@toenail21 TB

@TheOnlyMerkules MIN

 

[Jeff Haseley]

@azdoughboy1 ARI

 

[Jeff Haseley]

@thetimmalone SEA

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Scratch SEA. still available

 

[drater]

Really surprised neither Stephen Hill or Kendall Wright made round 1, if Martin and Kirkpatrick went before the Lions pick, I was looking at Hill and Doug Martin. Considering the recent history of the Lions brain trust of taking BPA, regardless of needs, either player would be in play. Dre fit both descriptions though, I didn't even really have a choice.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

So Cleveland wouldn't take tannenhill if he happen to fall to them(past Miami) with their 2nd 1st rounder(22nd)? Me thinks not

 

[Jeff Haseley]

I was also surprised to see CLE didn't take Tannehill with either of the two first round picks. Personally, I think they take him at 4 when it's all said and done. Can't risk not getting him, especially due to his stock rising lately. If he has a good workout on the 28th, it will be very hard for CLE to pass him up at 4.

Kendall Wright not selected was also a big surprise. The fact that Michael Floyd made it to SD at pick 18 was also a shocker. Wright is going to be a player in this league. Some team is going to be very happy with his services.

As for Kirkpatrick taken after Gilmore and Jenkins - another eyebrow raiser. People like Gilmore's toughness (not a bad pick for DAL though) and he may be a better fantasy IDP player than the others, but coverage is the first and foremost interest when it comes to picking a CB, at least IMO. Kirkpatrick is a mixture of both, Jenkins is more fluid in his coverage skills and Gilmore is more of a physical corner. I think all four (including Claiborne)could be future pro bowlers.

 

[smackdaddies]

Doug Martin, Packers? Are you kidding me?

Who was drafting for the Packers? Not in 100 freaking years. The Pack, if they wanted him (not likely) could get him with their second round pick. Perhaps their 3rd.

Both Mercilus and Adams still available? Pack would take Mercilus in a heartbeat.

 

[smackdaddies]

Doug Martin, Packers? Are you kidding me?Who was drafting for the Packers? Not in 100 freaking years. The Pack, if they wanted him (not likely) could get him with their second round pick. Perhaps their 3rd.Both Mercilus and Adams still available? Pack would take Mercilus in a heartbeat.

I cannot believe anyone with any knowledge of the Packers would project that pick. That is an insanely bad 1st round pick for anyone, never mind the Packers

 

[Wadsworth]

Doug Martin, Packers? Are you kidding me?Who was drafting for the Packers? Not in 100 freaking years. The Pack, if they wanted him (not likely) could get him with their second round pick. Perhaps their 3rd.Both Mercilus and Adams still available? Pack would take Mercilus in a heartbeat.

I cannot believe anyone with any knowledge of the Packers would project that pick. That is an insanely bad 1st round pick for anyone, never mind the Packers

I am reminded of the message board mock a few seasons ago where the person drafting for the Lions picked Matt Stafford first and Brandon Pettigrew with the Lions second pick first round pick. He was blasted pretty hard for being unrealistic. Doug Martin seems like an odd pick but I can promise you that stranger picks will be made at the real draft.

 

[Donnybrook]

I was also surprised to see CLE didn't take Tannehill with either of the two first round picks. Personally, I think they take him at 4 when it's all said and done. Can't risk not getting him, especially due to his stock rising lately. If he has a good workout on the 28th, it will be very hard for CLE to pass him up at 4.

I agree. But you shouldn't have these mocks on Saturday nights. The guy making the Vikings pick was obviously drunk.

 

[Bankerguy]

Terrible for the Cowboys.....GOD awful.

 

[daveR]

I was also surprised to see CLE didn't take Tannehill with either of the two first round picks. Personally, I think they take him at 4 when it's all said and done. Can't risk not getting him, especially due to his stock rising lately. If he has a good workout on the 28th, it will be very hard for CLE to pass him up at 4.

I agree. But you shouldn't have these mocks on Saturday nights. The guy making the Vikings pick was obviously drunk.

Won't be Tannehill at #4. Probably Claiborne unless Kalil falls. Some chance of Richardson, some chance trade down.

 

[Zimm]

Doug Martin, Packers? Are you kidding me?Who was drafting for the Packers? Not in 100 freaking years. The Pack, if they wanted him (not likely) could get him with their second round pick. Perhaps their 3rd.Both Mercilus and Adams still available? Pack would take Mercilus in a heartbeat.

Doug Martin, Packers? Are you kidding me?Who was drafting for the Packers? Not in 100 freaking years. The Pack, if they wanted him (not likely) could get him with their second round pick. Perhaps their 3rd.Both Mercilus and Adams still available? Pack would take Mercilus in a heartbeat.

I cannot believe anyone with any knowledge of the Packers would project that pick. That is an insanely bad 1st round pick for anyone, never mind the Packers

Terrible for the Cowboys.....GOD awful.

Are you guys aware that Martin is a projected first round pick? Martin is a 3 down back and not one of the backs currently roster is even worthy of being a starting NFL RB. I am sorry James Starks had 2 good games that i mocked them a RB which is a huge whole for that offense. And Mercilus is a 4-3 DE not a OLB....yeah that makes more sense and as for Adams geez i don't think anyone besides Burfict who has hurt their stock more then he has his pro day was pathetic. Why is Gilmore a terrible pick for Dallas? Gilmore is a physical RCB that provides a huge upgrade in a pass happy division and on top of that Dallas is extremely weak at CB even with Carr brought in.

 

[smackdaddies]

Martin is projected 2 or 3 rd. He is a terrible ok pass catcher, and bad on pass blocking.

Mercilus is both the #2 DE, fits perfectly at OLB for the pack, is both projected higher and fits their actual need.

When have the packers ever indicated, since Brent Fullwood, that they are actually interested in drafting a rb that high? RB is simply not important to the packers.

 

[krsone21]

Martin is projected 2 or 3 rd. He is a terrible ok pass catcher, and bad on pass blocking.

Mercilus is both the #2 DE, fits perfectly at OLB for the pack, is both projected higher and fits their actual need.

When have the packers ever indicated, since Brent Fullwood, that they are actually interested in drafting a rb that high? RB is simply not important to the packers.

I'm not saying that the Packers should draft a RB. I am saying though that Martin is projected to be a late 1st early 2nd round pick, so you are incorrect about that part.

 

[smackdaddies]

Martin is projected 2 or 3 rd. He is a terrible ok pass catcher, and bad on pass blocking.

Mercilus is both the #2 DE, fits perfectly at OLB for the pack, is both projected higher and fits their actual need.

When have the packers ever indicated, since Brent Fullwood, that they are actually interested in drafting a rb that high? RB is simply not important to the packers.

I'm not saying that the Packers should draft a RB. I am saying though that Martin is projected to be a late 1st early 2nd round pick, so you are incorrect about that part.

some are projecting him 1/2. Others are projecting him 2/3. Most are projecting him 2nd round.

 

[Zimm]

Martin is projected 2 or 3 rd. He is a terrible ok pass catcher, and bad on pass blocking.

Mercilus is both the #2 DE, fits perfectly at OLB for the pack, is both projected higher and fits their actual need.

When have the packers ever indicated, since Brent Fullwood, that they are actually interested in drafting a rb that high? RB is simply not important to the packers.

I'm not saying that the Packers should draft a RB. I am saying though that Martin is projected to be a late 1st early 2nd round pick, so you are incorrect about that part.

some are projecting him 1/2. Others are projecting him 2/3. Most are projecting him 2nd round.

For those projecting him to go in the 3rd round must not be a very good analysis. And Martin is a very good receiver out of the backfield i don't know where your getting your information from but you need to re-check it. Most RB's are not the greatest blockers coming out, but Martin is a very willing blocker and a hard working blue chip type player so i expect that to improve as he goes.

 

[eric rymer]

I was also surprised to see CLE didn't take Tannehill with either of the two first round picks. Personally, I think they take him at 4 when it's all said and done. Can't risk not getting him, especially due to his stock rising lately. If he has a good workout on the 28th, it will be very hard for CLE to pass him up at 4.

Cleveland passing on Tannehill at 4 doesn't surprise me at all to be honest. Between our boards and all the talk radio I've heard from Cleveland, Tannehill is not even on the radar at 4. I agree that he is the #3 QB and rising fast but Cleveland is a team that has a severe lack of weapons that reaching is not an option. Now passing on him at 22 did surprise me. Martin at 22 is a very solid pick with the state of affairs on the right side of our line. Steinbach and Pashos gone does dictate addressing the right side at some point. If I were drafting I would probably have taken Martin or Wright. Coming out of this draft with Richardson and Wright would be massive upgrades. I would not be one bit surprised to see Cleveland end up with Brandon Weeden.

 

[smackdaddies]

Martin is projected 2 or 3 rd. He is a terrible ok pass catcher, and bad on pass blocking.

Mercilus is both the #2 DE, fits perfectly at OLB for the pack, is both projected higher and fits their actual need.

When have the packers ever indicated, since Brent Fullwood, that they are actually interested in drafting a rb that high? RB is simply not important to the packers.

I'm not saying that the Packers should draft a RB. I am saying though that Martin is projected to be a late 1st early 2nd round pick, so you are incorrect about that part.

some are projecting him 1/2. Others are projecting him 2/3. Most are projecting him 2nd round.

For those projecting him to go in the 3rd round must not be a very good analysis. And Martin is a very good receiver out of the backfield i don't know where your getting your information from but you need to re-check it. Most RB's are not the greatest blockers coming out, but Martin is a very willing blocker and a hard working blue chip type player so i expect that to improve as he goes.

For those projecting him to go in the 3rd round must not be a very good analysis Why? Because they disagree with you?Martin is a very willing blocker Or he whiffs whens it really counts - ...was taken out when pass protection was a must

Martin is a very good receiver out of the backfield i don't know where your getting your information Martin was an adequate receiver with 67 rcpt and 700 yards (in four years) (see above link)

Martin is a good return guy (which of course the Packers don't need at all), a between the tackles guy (which the Packers don't value very highly) and nickname on pass defense is "matador" which is a skill a RB actually needs for the Packers.

I have seen mocks with him going to the Giants and the Niners (Giants I get, Niners I don't), but no one, and I mean no one thinks the Packers have the least interest in him.

But if you have a single link to any interest the Packers have in him, from a real football source, I would be interested.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

I was also surprised to see CLE didn't take Tannehill with either of the two first round picks. Personally, I think they take him at 4 when it's all said and done. Can't risk not getting him, especially due to his stock rising lately. If he has a good workout on the 28th, it will be very hard for CLE to pass him up at 4.

Cleveland passing on Tannehill at 4 doesn't surprise me at all to be honest. Between our boards and all the talk radio I've heard from Cleveland, Tannehill is not even on the radar at 4. I agree that he is the #3 QB and rising fast but Cleveland is a team that has a severe lack of weapons that reaching is not an option. Now passing on him at 22 did surprise me. Martin at 22 is a very solid pick with the state of affairs on the right side of our line. Steinbach and Pashos gone does dictate addressing the right side at some point. If I were drafting I would probably have taken Martin or Wright. Coming out of this draft with Richardson and Wright would be massive upgrades. I would not be one bit surprised to see Cleveland end up with Brandon Weeden.

I agree that Brandon Weeden (who is not a bad pick) is likely the Browns fall back pick, if they decide not to go Tannehill at 4 or 22. Personally, I don't think he will make it to 22. Miami may even take him at 8, if CLE passes at 4, which is another reason why I think CLE will seriously consider him at 4. Anything can happen though. Some draftniks thought Jimmy Clausen could be a top 10 pick and we saw how far he fell.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

By the way, I am interested in extending this mock to round two or higher, but I want to do so with a full deck of active participants. The twitter draft was fun, but there were some lapses with some team representatives not being present, which led to others making the pick for them.

I am open to other ways of doing the draft, other than twitter or tweetchat that might make the flow better or easier to follow. I would like to keep the same participants, but will still need more volunteers to fill all of the teams. I want to say 10-12 teams were not represented. For those of you that participated, I will reach out to you via twitter to gauge your interest in round 2 or higher.

 

[eric rymer]

I was also surprised to see CLE didn't take Tannehill with either of the two first round picks. Personally, I think they take him at 4 when it's all said and done. Can't risk not getting him, especially due to his stock rising lately. If he has a good workout on the 28th, it will be very hard for CLE to pass him up at 4.

Cleveland passing on Tannehill at 4 doesn't surprise me at all to be honest. Between our boards and all the talk radio I've heard from Cleveland, Tannehill is not even on the radar at 4. I agree that he is the #3 QB and rising fast but Cleveland is a team that has a severe lack of weapons that reaching is not an option. Now passing on him at 22 did surprise me. Martin at 22 is a very solid pick with the state of affairs on the right side of our line. Steinbach and Pashos gone does dictate addressing the right side at some point. If I were drafting I would probably have taken Martin or Wright. Coming out of this draft with Richardson and Wright would be massive upgrades. I would not be one bit surprised to see Cleveland end up with Brandon Weeden.

I agree that Brandon Weeden (who is not a bad pick) is likely the Browns fall back pick, if they decide not to go Tannehill at 4 or 22. Personally, I don't think he will make it to 22. Miami may even take him at 8, if CLE passes at 4, which is another reason why I think CLE will seriously consider him at 4. Anything can happen though. Some draftniks thought Jimmy Clausen could be a top 10 pick and we saw how far he fell.

Don't disagree at all. If he is not taken at 8, does it say more about the needs of Miami or Tannehill. No one should know more about this kid than the staff at Miami. So if they pass on him at 8, other than a team trading up, who might be ahead of Cleveland that could take him? Maybe the Chiefs? Personally I think KC's focus will be on defense. Either a DT or a LB. he very well could drop to the 22.

 

[Donnybrook]

I was also surprised to see CLE didn't take Tannehill with either of the two first round picks. Personally, I think they take him at 4 when it's all said and done. Can't risk not getting him, especially due to his stock rising lately. If he has a good workout on the 28th, it will be very hard for CLE to pass him up at 4.

Cleveland passing on Tannehill at 4 doesn't surprise me at all to be honest. Between our boards and all the talk radio I've heard from Cleveland, Tannehill is not even on the radar at 4. I agree that he is the #3 QB and rising fast but Cleveland is a team that has a severe lack of weapons that reaching is not an option. Now passing on him at 22 did surprise me. Martin at 22 is a very solid pick with the state of affairs on the right side of our line. Steinbach and Pashos gone does dictate addressing the right side at some point. If I were drafting I would probably have taken Martin or Wright. Coming out of this draft with Richardson and Wright would be massive upgrades. I would not be one bit surprised to see Cleveland end up with Brandon Weeden.

What do people on boards and talk radio hosts really know? These are some of the same people that were saying that Cleveland was not in love with RGIII and he didn't fit the offense. Only last month there were rumors that Cleveland didn't want to give up a extra 2nd round pick for RGIII but in reality the team president is complaining that he didn't get a chance to go over the top of Washington's winning bid. It would not surprise me if Cleveland front office decides to take him at 4 and they can justify by saying that they don't forsee picking this early again next year.

 

[eric rymer]

I was also surprised to see CLE didn't take Tannehill with either of the two first round picks. Personally, I think they take him at 4 when it's all said and done. Can't risk not getting him, especially due to his stock rising lately. If he has a good workout on the 28th, it will be very hard for CLE to pass him up at 4.

Cleveland passing on Tannehill at 4 doesn't surprise me at all to be honest. Between our boards and all the talk radio I've heard from Cleveland, Tannehill is not even on the radar at 4. I agree that he is the #3 QB and rising fast but Cleveland is a team that has a severe lack of weapons that reaching is not an option. Now passing on him at 22 did surprise me. Martin at 22 is a very solid pick with the state of affairs on the right side of our line. Steinbach and Pashos gone does dictate addressing the right side at some point. If I were drafting I would probably have taken Martin or Wright. Coming out of this draft with Richardson and Wright would be massive upgrades. I would not be one bit surprised to see Cleveland end up with Brandon Weeden.

What do people on boards and talk radio hosts really know? These are some of the same people that were saying that Cleveland was not in love with RGIII and he didn't fit the offense. Only last month there were rumors that Cleveland didn't want to give up a extra 2nd round pick for RGIII but in reality the team president is complaining that he didn't get a chance to go over the top of Washington's winning bid. It would not surprise me if Cleveland front office decides to take him at 4 and they can justify by saying that they don't forsee picking this early again next year.

I don't disagree with this. Making a move like this would justify their jobs for the next few years. They can chalk up being bad for a while under the premise that they are developing a QB. I've only seen one mock where Tannehill went there. I guess that's more to what I was getting at that another mock drafter didn't do anything out of the norm. I think the bottom line is these guys can change their mind a dozen times before the draft. As usual, a lot can change in the weeks prior to the draft. I don't think we'll really know anything for certain until the card is turned in. Heckert has said his ideal pick would be to trade down again. Hell it's all smokescreens until a name is called.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

I was also surprised to see CLE didn't take Tannehill with either of the two first round picks. Personally, I think they take him at 4 when it's all said and done. Can't risk not getting him, especially due to his stock rising lately. If he has a good workout on the 28th, it will be very hard for CLE to pass him up at 4.

Cleveland passing on Tannehill at 4 doesn't surprise me at all to be honest. Between our boards and all the talk radio I've heard from Cleveland, Tannehill is not even on the radar at 4. I agree that he is the #3 QB and rising fast but Cleveland is a team that has a severe lack of weapons that reaching is not an option. Now passing on him at 22 did surprise me. Martin at 22 is a very solid pick with the state of affairs on the right side of our line. Steinbach and Pashos gone does dictate addressing the right side at some point. If I were drafting I would probably have taken Martin or Wright. Coming out of this draft with Richardson and Wright would be massive upgrades. I would not be one bit surprised to see Cleveland end up with Brandon Weeden.

I agree that Brandon Weeden (who is not a bad pick) is likely the Browns fall back pick, if they decide not to go Tannehill at 4 or 22. Personally, I don't think he will make it to 22. Miami may even take him at 8, if CLE passes at 4, which is another reason why I think CLE will seriously consider him at 4. Anything can happen though. Some draftniks thought Jimmy Clausen could be a top 10 pick and we saw how far he fell.

Don't disagree at all. If he is not taken at 8, does it say more about the needs of Miami or Tannehill. No one should know more about this kid than the staff at Miami. So if they pass on him at 8, other than a team trading up, who might be ahead of Cleveland that could take him? Maybe the Chiefs? Personally I think KC's focus will be on defense. Either a DT or a LB. he very well could drop to the 22.

I think we can agree that MIA and CLE are the front-runners for wanting/needing a QB, but some team could make a bold move like TB, ARI or KC like you mentioned, or maybe even PHI. I know the Eagles scouts have said good things about Tannehill. The ideal situation for CLE would be trading down to pick 7, but I don't think JAC is hellbent on trading up.

 

[Wadsworth]

I was also surprised to see CLE didn't take Tannehill with either of the two first round picks. Personally, I think they take him at 4 when it's all said and done. Can't risk not getting him, especially due to his stock rising lately. If he has a good workout on the 28th, it will be very hard for CLE to pass him up at 4.

Cleveland passing on Tannehill at 4 doesn't surprise me at all to be honest. Between our boards and all the talk radio I've heard from Cleveland, Tannehill is not even on the radar at 4. I agree that he is the #3 QB and rising fast but Cleveland is a team that has a severe lack of weapons that reaching is not an option. Now passing on him at 22 did surprise me. Martin at 22 is a very solid pick with the state of affairs on the right side of our line. Steinbach and Pashos gone does dictate addressing the right side at some point. If I were drafting I would probably have taken Martin or Wright. Coming out of this draft with Richardson and Wright would be massive upgrades. I would not be one bit surprised to see Cleveland end up with Brandon Weeden.

I agree that Brandon Weeden (who is not a bad pick) is likely the Browns fall back pick, if they decide not to go Tannehill at 4 or 22. Personally, I don't think he will make it to 22. Miami may even take him at 8, if CLE passes at 4, which is another reason why I think CLE will seriously consider him at 4. Anything can happen though. Some draftniks thought Jimmy Clausen could be a top 10 pick and we saw how far he fell.

Don't disagree at all. If he is not taken at 8, does it say more about the needs of Miami or Tannehill. No one should know more about this kid than the staff at Miami. So if they pass on him at 8, other than a team trading up, who might be ahead of Cleveland that could take him? Maybe the Chiefs? Personally I think KC's focus will be on defense. Either a DT or a LB. he very well could drop to the 22.

I think we can agree that MIA and CLE are the front-runners for wanting/needing a QB, but some team could make a bold move like TB, ARI or KC like you mentioned, or maybe even PHI. I know the Eagles scouts have said good things about Tannehill. The ideal situation for CLE would be trading down to pick 7, but I don't think JAC is hellbent on trading up.

I agree that I do not expect the Jaguars to trade up to the #4. But Cleveland could trade up to the #7 with their #22 and #37 and next years second or this years third maybe.

 

[Zimm]

Martin is projected 2 or 3 rd. He is a terrible ok pass catcher, and bad on pass blocking.

Mercilus is both the #2 DE, fits perfectly at OLB for the pack, is both projected higher and fits their actual need.

When have the packers ever indicated, since Brent Fullwood, that they are actually interested in drafting a rb that high? RB is simply not important to the packers.

I'm not saying that the Packers should draft a RB. I am saying though that Martin is projected to be a late 1st early 2nd round pick, so you are incorrect about that part.

some are projecting him 1/2. Others are projecting him 2/3. Most are projecting him 2nd round.

For those projecting him to go in the 3rd round must not be a very good analysis. And Martin is a very good receiver out of the backfield i don't know where your getting your information from but you need to re-check it. Most RB's are not the greatest blockers coming out, but Martin is a very willing blocker and a hard working blue chip type player so i expect that to improve as he goes.

For those projecting him to go in the 3rd round must not be a very good analysis Why? Because they disagree with you?Martin is a very willing blocker Or he whiffs whens it really counts - ...was taken out when pass protection was a must

Martin is a very good receiver out of the backfield i don't know where your getting your information Martin was an adequate receiver with 67 rcpt and 700 yards (in four years) (see above link)

Martin is a good return guy (which of course the Packers don't need at all), a between the tackles guy (which the Packers don't value very highly) and nickname on pass defense is "matador" which is a skill a RB actually needs for the Packers.

I have seen mocks with him going to the Giants and the Niners (Giants I get, Niners I don't), but no one, and I mean no one thinks the Packers have the least interest in him.

But if you have a single link to any interest the Packers have in him, from a real football source, I would be interested.

Yes most teams just throw their draft plan out there into the open. I'll be sure to get on the phone with good ol' Teddy and ask him some questions. Before the combine Martin was projected as a 2nd-3rd round pick but after a great combine showing his stock has improved pushing him from Mayocks 4th ranked RB to Mayocks 2nd ranked RB. As for the Links you wanted here you go:(There are plenty more)Draft Breakdown

Draft scouting

Mayock Video Pre-Combine

Doug Martin, RB, Boise State

"Doug Martin bulked up to 223 pounds, which indicates that he can be a three-down back. Despite the weight gain, he still ran a respectable 40 (4.47), and had quality leaps of 36 (vertical) and 10-0 (broad). He also notched 28 reps on the bench.

Don't underestimate Martin's ability to play all three downs. That could put him ahead of Lamar Miller, who doesn't share that quality. It shouldn't surprise anyone if Martin is the third running back off the board behind Trent Richardson and David Wilson." (Walterfootball)

 

[Zimm]

Jeff i am down for a round 2 or as many as it goes.

 

[smackdaddies]

Martin is projected 2 or 3 rd. He is a terrible ok pass catcher, and bad on pass blocking.

Mercilus is both the #2 DE, fits perfectly at OLB for the pack, is both projected higher and fits their actual need.

When have the packers ever indicated, since Brent Fullwood, that they are actually interested in drafting a rb that high? RB is simply not important to the packers.

I'm not saying that the Packers should draft a RB. I am saying though that Martin is projected to be a late 1st early 2nd round pick, so you are incorrect about that part.

some are projecting him 1/2. Others are projecting him 2/3. Most are projecting him 2nd round.

For those projecting him to go in the 3rd round must not be a very good analysis. And Martin is a very good receiver out of the backfield i don't know where your getting your information from but you need to re-check it. Most RB's are not the greatest blockers coming out, but Martin is a very willing blocker and a hard working blue chip type player so i expect that to improve as he goes.

For those projecting him to go in the 3rd round must not be a very good analysis Why? Because they disagree with you?Martin is a very willing blocker Or he whiffs whens it really counts - ...was taken out when pass protection was a must

Martin is a very good receiver out of the backfield i don't know where your getting your information Martin was an adequate receiver with 67 rcpt and 700 yards (in four years) (see above link)

Martin is a good return guy (which of course the Packers don't need at all), a between the tackles guy (which the Packers don't value very highly) and nickname on pass defense is "matador" which is a skill a RB actually needs for the Packers.

I have seen mocks with him going to the Giants and the Niners (Giants I get, Niners I don't), but no one, and I mean no one thinks the Packers have the least interest in him.

But if you have a single link to any interest the Packers have in him, from a real football source, I would be interested.

Yes most teams just throw their draft plan out there into the open. I'll be sure to get on the phone with good ol' Teddy and ask him some questions. Before the combine Martin was projected as a 2nd-3rd round pick but after a great combine showing his stock has improved pushing him from Mayocks 4th ranked RB to Mayocks 2nd ranked RB. As for the Links you wanted here you go:(There are plenty more)Draft Breakdown

Draft scouting

Mayock Video Pre-Combine

Doug Martin, RB, Boise State

"Doug Martin bulked up to 223 pounds, which indicates that he can be a three-down back. Despite the weight gain, he still ran a respectable 40 (4.47), and had quality leaps of 36 (vertical) and 10-0 (broad). He also notched 28 reps on the bench.

Don't underestimate Martin's ability to play all three downs. That could put him ahead of Lamar Miller, who doesn't share that quality. It shouldn't surprise anyone if Martin is the third running back off the board behind Trent Richardson and David Wilson." (Walterfootball)

So, you have no actual link to a real life sports person putting the Packers and Martin together? Or even the Packers and any RB in the 1st round? Yet somehow I am the one who is wrong on this topic? Mr. Orwell

 

[Zimm]

Martin is projected 2 or 3 rd. He is a terrible ok pass catcher, and bad on pass blocking.

Mercilus is both the #2 DE, fits perfectly at OLB for the pack, is both projected higher and fits their actual need.

When have the packers ever indicated, since Brent Fullwood, that they are actually interested in drafting a rb that high? RB is simply not important to the packers.

I'm not saying that the Packers should draft a RB. I am saying though that Martin is projected to be a late 1st early 2nd round pick, so you are incorrect about that part.

some are projecting him 1/2. Others are projecting him 2/3. Most are projecting him 2nd round.

For those projecting him to go in the 3rd round must not be a very good analysis. And Martin is a very good receiver out of the backfield i don't know where your getting your information from but you need to re-check it. Most RB's are not the greatest blockers coming out, but Martin is a very willing blocker and a hard working blue chip type player so i expect that to improve as he goes.

For those projecting him to go in the 3rd round must not be a very good analysis Why? Because they disagree with you?Martin is a very willing blocker Or he whiffs whens it really counts - ...was taken out when pass protection was a must

Martin is a very good receiver out of the backfield i don't know where your getting your information Martin was an adequate receiver with 67 rcpt and 700 yards (in four years) (see above link)

Martin is a good return guy (which of course the Packers don't need at all), a between the tackles guy (which the Packers don't value very highly) and nickname on pass defense is "matador" which is a skill a RB actually needs for the Packers.

I have seen mocks with him going to the Giants and the Niners (Giants I get, Niners I don't), but no one, and I mean no one thinks the Packers have the least interest in him.

But if you have a single link to any interest the Packers have in him, from a real football source, I would be interested.

Yes most teams just throw their draft plan out there into the open. I'll be sure to get on the phone with good ol' Teddy and ask him some questions. Before the combine Martin was projected as a 2nd-3rd round pick but after a great combine showing his stock has improved pushing him from Mayocks 4th ranked RB to Mayocks 2nd ranked RB. As for the Links you wanted here you go:(There are plenty more)Draft Breakdown

Draft scouting

Mayock Video Pre-Combine

Doug Martin, RB, Boise State

"Doug Martin bulked up to 223 pounds, which indicates that he can be a three-down back. Despite the weight gain, he still ran a respectable 40 (4.47), and had quality leaps of 36 (vertical) and 10-0 (broad). He also notched 28 reps on the bench.

Don't underestimate Martin's ability to play all three downs. That could put him ahead of Lamar Miller, who doesn't share that quality. It shouldn't surprise anyone if Martin is the third running back off the board behind Trent Richardson and David Wilson." (Walterfootball)

So, you have no actual link to a real life sports person putting the Packers and Martin together? Or even the Packers and any RB in the 1st round? Yet somehow I am the one who is wrong on this topic? Mr. Orwell

I never once said they are indeed going to draft a RB....I simply projected them to take one and got hung up on the cross based on your biased opinion. I think they do in fact need a RB and no one can really say who is going where besides Luck and Griffin i simply said you were wrong about his draft round grade, and i shouldn't say wrong i should say outdated since most of the analysis data out there is before the combine.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Jeff i am down for a round 2 or as many as it goes.

Awesome. Thanks. I sent out a twitter message to all who participated. It won't be anytime too soon. (not tonight or anything). I want to get good involvement and will need to have every team covered - and have a few alternates for those who somehow can't make it or have internet problems, etc. Also, if you know of any live chat rooms where we can do this, I am all ears. Thanks again for helping to fill the void in times needed in the first round.

 

[toenail_23]

I'm still in for the Bucs.

 

[Bankerguy]

Doug Martin, Packers? Are you kidding me?Who was drafting for the Packers? Not in 100 freaking years. The Pack, if they wanted him (not likely) could get him with their second round pick. Perhaps their 3rd.Both Mercilus and Adams still available? Pack would take Mercilus in a heartbeat.

Doug Martin, Packers? Are you kidding me?Who was drafting for the Packers? Not in 100 freaking years. The Pack, if they wanted him (not likely) could get him with their second round pick. Perhaps their 3rd.Both Mercilus and Adams still available? Pack would take Mercilus in a heartbeat.

I cannot believe anyone with any knowledge of the Packers would project that pick. That is an insanely bad 1st round pick for anyone, never mind the Packers

Terrible for the Cowboys.....GOD awful.

Are you guys aware that Martin is a projected first round pick? Martin is a 3 down back and not one of the backs currently roster is even worthy of being a starting NFL RB. I am sorry James Starks had 2 good games that i mocked them a RB which is a huge whole for that offense. And Mercilus is a 4-3 DE not a OLB....yeah that makes more sense and as for Adams geez i don't think anyone besides Burfict who has hurt their stock more then he has his pro day was pathetic. Why is Gilmore a terrible pick for Dallas? Gilmore is a physical RCB that provides a huge upgrade in a pass happy division and on top of that Dallas is extremely weak at CB even with Carr brought in.

Clearly someone looking at a percieved need and plugging a player. He is not anywhere near the 14th best player on the board. If we traded down to 25 or 27 I'd be semi ok with it. We have Jenkins, Carr and Scandrick. Not sure it's that big of a need. We need interior D and O line help.

 

[Zimm]

Jeff i am down for a round 2 or as many as it goes.

Awesome. Thanks. I sent out a twitter message to all who participated. It won't be anytime too soon. (not tonight or anything). I want to get good involvement and will need to have every team covered - and have a few alternates for those who somehow can't make it or have internet problems, etc. Also, if you know of any live chat rooms where we can do this, I am all ears. Thanks again for helping to fill the void in times needed in the first round.

Doug Martin, Packers? Are you kidding me?Who was drafting for the Packers? Not in 100 freaking years. The Pack, if they wanted him (not likely) could get him with their second round pick. Perhaps their 3rd.Both Mercilus and Adams still available? Pack would take Mercilus in a heartbeat.

Doug Martin, Packers? Are you kidding me?Who was drafting for the Packers? Not in 100 freaking years. The Pack, if they wanted him (not likely) could get him with their second round pick. Perhaps their 3rd.Both Mercilus and Adams still available? Pack would take Mercilus in a heartbeat.

I cannot believe anyone with any knowledge of the Packers would project that pick. That is an insanely bad 1st round pick for anyone, never mind the Packers

Terrible for the Cowboys.....GOD awful.

Are you guys aware that Martin is a projected first round pick? Martin is a 3 down back and not one of the backs currently roster is even worthy of being a starting NFL RB. I am sorry James Starks had 2 good games that i mocked them a RB which is a huge whole for that offense. And Mercilus is a 4-3 DE not a OLB....yeah that makes more sense and as for Adams geez i don't think anyone besides Burfict who has hurt their stock more then he has his pro day was pathetic. Why is Gilmore a terrible pick for Dallas? Gilmore is a physical RCB that provides a huge upgrade in a pass happy division and on top of that Dallas is extremely weak at CB even with Carr brought in.

Clearly someone looking at a percieved need and plugging a player. He is not anywhere near the 14th best player on the board. If we traded down to 25 or 27 I'd be semi ok with it. We have Jenkins, Carr and Scandrick. Not sure it's that big of a need. We need interior D and O line help.

Gilmore is the 2nd rated CB on the board and Jenkins and Scandrick are below average CB's.

 

[duaneok66]

love the analysis on this thread (seriously) - beats TV analysis where almost EVERY pick is a "good pick"

 

[eric rymer]

love the analysis on this thread (seriously) - beats TV analysis where almost EVERY pick is a "good pick"

discussion and disagreeing is what makes you learn more about a guy.

 

[smackdaddies]

Martin is projected 2 or 3 rd. He is a terrible ok pass catcher, and bad on pass blocking.

Mercilus is both the #2 DE, fits perfectly at OLB for the pack, is both projected higher and fits their actual need.

When have the packers ever indicated, since Brent Fullwood, that they are actually interested in drafting a rb that high? RB is simply not important to the packers.

I'm not saying that the Packers should draft a RB. I am saying though that Martin is projected to be a late 1st early 2nd round pick, so you are incorrect about that part.

some are projecting him 1/2. Others are projecting him 2/3. Most are projecting him 2nd round.

For those projecting him to go in the 3rd round must not be a very good analysis. And Martin is a very good receiver out of the backfield i don't know where your getting your information from but you need to re-check it. Most RB's are not the greatest blockers coming out, but Martin is a very willing blocker and a hard working blue chip type player so i expect that to improve as he goes.

For those projecting him to go in the 3rd round must not be a very good analysis Why? Because they disagree with you?Martin is a very willing blocker Or he whiffs whens it really counts - ...was taken out when pass protection was a must

Martin is a very good receiver out of the backfield i don't know where your getting your information Martin was an adequate receiver with 67 rcpt and 700 yards (in four years) (see above link)

Martin is a good return guy (which of course the Packers don't need at all), a between the tackles guy (which the Packers don't value very highly) and nickname on pass defense is "matador" which is a skill a RB actually needs for the Packers.

I have seen mocks with him going to the Giants and the Niners (Giants I get, Niners I don't), but no one, and I mean no one thinks the Packers have the least interest in him.

But if you have a single link to any interest the Packers have in him, from a real football source, I would be interested.

Yes most teams just throw their draft plan out there into the open. I'll be sure to get on the phone with good ol' Teddy and ask him some questions. Before the combine Martin was projected as a 2nd-3rd round pick but after a great combine showing his stock has improved pushing him from Mayocks 4th ranked RB to Mayocks 2nd ranked RB. As for the Links you wanted here you go:(There are plenty more)Draft Breakdown

Draft scouting

Mayock Video Pre-Combine

Doug Martin, RB, Boise State

"Doug Martin bulked up to 223 pounds, which indicates that he can be a three-down back. Despite the weight gain, he still ran a respectable 40 (4.47), and had quality leaps of 36 (vertical) and 10-0 (broad). He also notched 28 reps on the bench.

Don't underestimate Martin's ability to play all three downs. That could put him ahead of Lamar Miller, who doesn't share that quality. It shouldn't surprise anyone if Martin is the third running back off the board behind Trent Richardson and David Wilson." (Walterfootball)

So, you have no actual link to a real life sports person putting the Packers and Martin together? Or even the Packers and any RB in the 1st round? Yet somehow I am the one who is wrong on this topic? Mr. Orwell

I never once said they are indeed going to draft a RB....I simply projected them to take one and got hung up on the cross based on your biased opinion. I think they do in fact need a RB and no one can really say who is going where besides Luck and Griffin i simply said you were wrong about his draft round grade, and i shouldn't say wrong i should say outdated since most of the analysis data out there is before the combine.

lolI never once said they are indeed going to draft a RB....I simply projected them to take one.

very nice George.

And it's my biased opinion? How about everyone's biased opinion? Other than yours apparently. I to your wisdom

 

[Abrantes]

Martin is projected 2 or 3 rd. He is a terrible ok pass catcher, and bad on pass blocking.

Mercilus is both the #2 DE, fits perfectly at OLB for the pack, is both projected higher and fits their actual need.

When have the packers ever indicated, since Brent Fullwood, that they are actually interested in drafting a rb that high? RB is simply not important to the packers.

I'm not saying that the Packers should draft a RB. I am saying though that Martin is projected to be a late 1st early 2nd round pick, so you are incorrect about that part.

some are projecting him 1/2. Others are projecting him 2/3. Most are projecting him 2nd round.

For those projecting him to go in the 3rd round must not be a very good analysis. And Martin is a very good receiver out of the backfield i don't know where your getting your information from but you need to re-check it. Most RB's are not the greatest blockers coming out, but Martin is a very willing blocker and a hard working blue chip type player so i expect that to improve as he goes.

For those projecting him to go in the 3rd round must not be a very good analysis Why? Because they disagree with you?Martin is a very willing blocker Or he whiffs whens it really counts - ...was taken out when pass protection was a must

Martin is a very good receiver out of the backfield i don't know where your getting your information Martin was an adequate receiver with 67 rcpt and 700 yards (in four years) (see above link)

Martin is a good return guy (which of course the Packers don't need at all), a between the tackles guy (which the Packers don't value very highly) and nickname on pass defense is "matador" which is a skill a RB actually needs for the Packers.

I have seen mocks with him going to the Giants and the Niners (Giants I get, Niners I don't), but no one, and I mean no one thinks the Packers have the least interest in him.

But if you have a single link to any interest the Packers have in him, from a real football source, I would be interested.

Yes most teams just throw their draft plan out there into the open. I'll be sure to get on the phone with good ol' Teddy and ask him some questions. Before the combine Martin was projected as a 2nd-3rd round pick but after a great combine showing his stock has improved pushing him from Mayocks 4th ranked RB to Mayocks 2nd ranked RB. As for the Links you wanted here you go:(There are plenty more)Draft Breakdown

Draft scouting

Mayock Video Pre-Combine

Doug Martin, RB, Boise State

"Doug Martin bulked up to 223 pounds, which indicates that he can be a three-down back. Despite the weight gain, he still ran a respectable 40 (4.47), and had quality leaps of 36 (vertical) and 10-0 (broad). He also notched 28 reps on the bench.

Don't underestimate Martin's ability to play all three downs. That could put him ahead of Lamar Miller, who doesn't share that quality. It shouldn't surprise anyone if Martin is the third running back off the board behind Trent Richardson and David Wilson." (Walterfootball)

So, you have no actual link to a real life sports person putting the Packers and Martin together? Or even the Packers and any RB in the 1st round? Yet somehow I am the one who is wrong on this topic? Mr. Orwell

I never once said they are indeed going to draft a RB....I simply projected them to take one and got hung up on the cross based on your biased opinion. I think they do in fact need a RB and no one can really say who is going where besides Luck and Griffin i simply said you were wrong about his draft round grade, and i shouldn't say wrong i should say outdated since most of the analysis data out there is before the combine.

lolI never once said they are indeed going to draft a RB....I simply projected them to take one.

very nice George.

And it's my biased opinion? How about everyone's biased opinion? Other than yours apparently. I to your wisdom

Do you really need to be a tool to "win" the internet argument?