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I'm sure it'll end up being way off, but I've attempted a two round mock draft. It's hard to predict trades, so I've only predicted one (involving Matt Cassel). Anyways, opinions are welcome.

1. Detroit (0-16) – Matt Stafford, QB – Georgia

While a lot of people think Stafford is a likely bust, I'm not so sure. Every QB that ever declares for the draft has question marks surrounding them. Peyton Manning even had enough question marks that a large portion of people felt that Ryan Leaf would a better pick for the Colts. Also, there is a lot of talent at OT this year so I'm guessing they should be able to draft a solid prospect at OT with their 1.20 or 2.01 if they feel it is a major need. Perhaps more importantly, the Lions were unable to sell out most of their games last season and drafting a QB with the first pick will stop that from happening in 2009.

2. St. Louis (2-14) – Andre Smith, OT – Alabama

3. Kansas City (2-14) – Brian Orakpo, DE – Texas

A lot of mock drafts have Aaron Curry here, but no LB has been drafted in the top 3 since LaVar Arrington back in 2000.

4. Seattle (4-12) – Michael Crabtree, WR – Texas Tech

5. Cleveland (4-12) – Aaron Curry, ILB – Wake Forest

6. Cincinnati (4-11-1) – Beanie Wells, RB – Ohio State

The Bengals are a wild card. The could definitely use an offensive linemen here, but I would not be surprised at all if they drafted hometown favorite Beanie Wells or went with a DE to improve their pass rush.

7. Oakland (5-11) – Jason Smith, OT – Baylor

8. Jacksonville (5-11) – Eugene Monroe, OT – Virginia

9. Green Bay (6-10) – Everett Brown, DE – Florida State

10. San Francisco (7-9) – Malcolm Jenkins, CB – Ohio State

11. Buffalo (7-9) – Aaron Maybin, DE – Penn State

12. Denver (8-8) – B.J. Raji, DT – Boston College

13. Washington (8-8) - Michael Oher, OT – Mississippi

14. New Orleans (8-8) – Vonte Davis, CB – Illinois

15. Houston (8-8) – William Moore, FS – Missouri

16. San Diego (8-8) – Rey Maualuga, ILB – USC

17. NY Jets (9-7) – Knowshawn Moreno, RB – Georgia

I think they'll give 2006 2nd round pick Kellen Clemons a full season under center before spending a 1st round pick on a new QB. Instead, I think they'll draft a RB to replace 30 year old Thomas Jones to run behind the Jets run oriented offensive line.

18. Chicago (9-7) - Jeremy Maclin, WR – Missouri

19. Tampa Bay (9-7) – Mark Sanchez, QB – USC

20. Detroit (9-7) – Paul Kruger, DE - Utah

21. Arizona (9-7) – LeSean McCoy, RB – Pittsburgh

22. Minnesota (10-6) – Patrick Chung SS – Oregon – Projected trade to New England *

* - I'm projectng that Minnesota trades the 22nd pick in the draft to New England for Matt Cassel. By and large, it's their biggest need and they're arguably a QB away from being a title contending team. Whoever they would draft with the 22nd pick would be far less proven regardless of the position they play then Cassel.

Here's why I think Minnesota makes the most sense. While St. Louis, KC, and San Fran might be willing to give up their 2nd round pick, I can't see them giving up a top 10 pick which all have less value then the 22nd pick. The Jets might be willing to give up the 17th pick, but I don't think they'll trade Cassel within the division. The only other possibilities I see are Detroit at #20 (if they don't take Stafford at #1) and Tampa Bay at #22.

23. New England (11-5) – Brian Cushing, OLB – USC

24. Atlanta (11-5) – Peria Jerry, DT – Mississippi

25. Miami (11-5) – Sean Smith, CB - Utah

26. Baltimore (11-5) – Percy Harvin, WR – Florida

27. Philadelphia (from Carolina) (12-4) – Brandon Pettigrew, TE –Oklahoma St.

28. Indianapolis (12-4) – Tyson Jackson, DT – LSU

29. NY Giants (12-4) – Clint Sintim, OLB – Virginia

30. Tennessee (13-3) – Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR – Maryland

31. Philadelphia (9-5-1) – Phil Loadholt, OT - Oklahoma

32. Pittsburgh (12-4) – Duke Robinson, G – Oklahoma

Second Round

33. Detroit (0-16) - Ebbon Britton, OT – Arizona

34. Kansas City (2-14) – James Laurinaitis, ILB – Ohio State

35. St. Louis (2-14) – Josh Freeman, QB – Kansas State

36. Cleveland (4-12) – Shonn Greene, RB – Iowa

37. Seattle (4-12) – D.J. Moore, CB – Vanderbilt

38. Cincinnati (4-11-1) – James Meredith, OT – South Carolina

39. Jacksonville (5-11) –Alphonso Smith, CB – Wake Forest

40. Oakland (5-11) – Kenny Britt, WR – Rutgers

41. Green Bay (6-10) – William Beatty, OT – Connecticut

42. Buffalo (7-9) – Alex Mack, C – California

43. San Francisco (7-9) – Louis Delmas, FS – Western Michigan

44. Miami (11-5) – Rashad Johnson, FS – Alabama

45. NY Giants (12-4) – Hakeem Nicks, WR – North Carolina

46. Houston (8-8) - Michael Johnson, DE – Georgia Tech

47. New England (11-5) – Darius Butler, CB – Connecticut

48. Denver (8-8) – Larry English, DE – Northern Illinois

49. Chicago (9-7) - Connor Barwin, DE - Cincinnati

50. Tampa Bay (9-7) – Sen'Derrick Marks, DT – Auburn

51. Dallas (9-7) – Emanuel Cook, SS – South Carolina

52. Arizona (9-7) – Jared Cook, TE – South Carolina

53. NY Jets (9-7) – Miles Mickens, CB - Cincinnati

54. Minnesota (10-6) – Troy Kropog, OT – Tulane

55. Atlanta (11-5) – Chase Coffman, TE – Missouri

56. Miami (11-5) – Darry Beckwidth, ILB – LSU

57. Baltimore (11-5) – Victor Harris, CB – Virginia Tech

58. New England (11-5) – Herman Johnson, G - LSU

59. Carolina (12-4) – Fila Moala, DT – USC

60. N.Y. Giants (12-4) – Alex Boone, OT – Ohio State

61. Indianapolis (12-4) – Javon Ringer, RB – Michigan State

62. Tennessee (13-3) - Max Unger, C – Oregon

63. Philadelphia (9-5-1) – Donald Brown, RB - Connecticut

64. Pittsburgh (12-4) – Fenuki Tupou, OT - Oregon

 
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Even though the Bills pass rush was nonexistent, I doubt they take a DE with the 1st round pick. They get Schoebel back from injury and recently gave him a long term deal. They also recently gave Kelsay a long term deal. They have Denney who played good enough to be a backup. And they get their 3rd round pick Ellis back from injury. If they go defense in the 1st round I think it will be to take a LB with speed. The Bills are probably going to take the best player available with the 1st pick, as long as it is not defensive secondary, RB, or QB, there is a chance you'll be right if they love Maybin. If it were me, I'd take a run-blocking tackle and try to trade Peters.

 
51. Dallas (9-7) – Emanuel Cook, SS – South Carolina
I think you're definitely on the right track here. The Cowboys need a playmaker at SS in a big way. Hopefully they can address it here (2nd round pick/1st overall) if the value is right.
 
I don't see Oher falling past my WhoDeys at 6, much less falling down to 13. We've been getting burned by early round RBs of late, I'd be beyond shocked for them to take Wells. In fact I think even if the top 2 OT are gone we might go for someone like Monroe at 6.

-QG

 
Even though the Bills pass rush was nonexistent, I doubt they take a DE with the 1st round pick. They get Schoebel back from injury and recently gave him a long term deal. They also recently gave Kelsay a long term deal. They have Denney who played good enough to be a backup. And they get their 3rd round pick Ellis back from injury. If they go defense in the 1st round I think it will be to take a LB with speed. The Bills are probably going to take the best player available with the 1st pick, as long as it is not defensive secondary, RB, or QB, there is a chance you'll be right if they love Maybin. If it were me, I'd take a run-blocking tackle and try to trade Peters.
You guys need a cornerback? If so swap the Bills/49ers picks, I really don't see the 49ers taking a corner while they have Clements/Harris and they need a DL, Everette Brown is gone in your mock but Maybin was there at the 49ers pick, I don't see them going for a corner over a DE. I don't see Malcolm Jenkins even being there at the 49ers pick but at worst they'd get a nice value and the top corner.
 
Pretty good, except that I think Wells and Maybin are too high. I think Cincinnati got enough from Ced Benson to wait on that position in the draft and I can't see Maybin being drafted high to a 4-3 defense team. He could go high to a 3-4 team, though.

 
60. N.Y. Giants (12-4) – Alex Boone, OT – Ohio State
To nitpick from a homer standpoint, the Giants very rarely take O linemen early and with the success of their O-line that was build in the mid to late rounds, I don't see them changing their philosophy in this draft.
 
I don't know if the Raiders would be better off with Monroe instead of Jason Smith, I guess it will depend on the scheme, but I would like an OT in the 1st and a WR in the 2nd. Nice job.

 
Not a fan of the Titans 1st round pick, I just don't see them taking DHB there.

If they lose Haynesworth, they'll find a way to get Tyson Jackson or another DT. I could also see Laurinaitis, if he fits well in their scheme.

I love the KC picks of Orakpu and Laurinaitis.

For Detroit, you're probably right, but I'd prefer Smith with Freeman at 2.01 - but if Sanchez drops to 16, expect a Detroit/SD trade. I doubt the Jets or Bears would let him slide. They also could consider dealing for Cassel.

 
Looks like Carolina will trade Peppers for at least a first round pick so they will move back into the first.
:shock: or something you heard on radio/TV? Is Peppers worth significantly more than Jason Taylor - 2009 2nd and 2010 6th, which is quite a bit less than a current 1st round pick (due to the delayed gratification). He might be, as Peppers is 5 years younger.Why would they want to trade Pep? He seems to be a key to their defense.
 
I'm sure it'll end up being way off

30. Tennessee (13-3) – Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR – Maryland

62. Tennessee (13-3) - Max Unger, C – Oregon
I appreciate the effort -- great discussion. However, Titans will not be drafting a C...their old on is pro-bowl and their young one on the bench will be.I see Tennessee taking Harvin type WR/playmaker to go along with CJ. Also, LB and CB. They will also need a punter, as Hentrich will retire, though I doubt they draft one.

 
Looks like Carolina will trade Peppers for at least a first round pick so they will move back into the first.
:thumbup: or something you heard on radio/TV? Is Peppers worth significantly more than Jason Taylor - 2009 2nd and 2010 6th, which is quite a bit less than a current 1st round pick (due to the delayed gratification). He might be, as Peppers is 5 years younger.Why would they want to trade Pep? He seems to be a key to their defense.
Charlotte.comthey dont want to trade them but Peppers is leaving them no choice. He wants out for some God knows reason. They offered him a deal that would make him the highest paid defense end in NFL.
 
Looks like Carolina will trade Peppers for at least a first round pick so they will move back into the first.
:thumbup: or something you heard on radio/TV? Is Peppers worth significantly more than Jason Taylor - 2009 2nd and 2010 6th, which is quite a bit less than a current 1st round pick (due to the delayed gratification). He might be, as Peppers is 5 years younger.Why would they want to trade Pep? He seems to be a key to their defense.
It's on ESPN's front page for NFL. It's Peppers who wants out because he "wants to reach his full potential" and it sounds unclear if the Panthers would franchise him which would cost $17 million, ouch.
 
Always appreciate the work put in to produce a 2 rounder this early in the process.

- I agree with Andy that Wells is too high. I don't think a team will spend a top 15-20 pick on a player with his ?s

- Early word is that Monroe is decisively ahead of Jason Smith and Oher

- I dont see Boone as a first day pick, maybe not even a top 100 pick

- Ill be surprised if Moala falls to 59

- I dont know if Jackson fits in what Indy tries to do on D, and hes not a first rounder

- Freeman will have to blow people away in workouts to get that high

- James Casey belongs somewhere in this mock

- Loadholt is not a first rounder

- Michael Johnson likely gets in the first on physical potential alone. If he impresses, he could still get in the top 20 or even force a reach into the top 10

- Im not sure Chung is a first rounder.

Solid work, I'd imagine at least you hit around 60-70% of the eventual first day at worst. Lots will change over the next few months...

 
hometown stuff aside, the Bengals sure seemed like they found their guy in Benson and I haven't really read much about poor attitude in Cincy so it sure seems like the phrase "a fresh start" for Cedric.

I don't follow college ball, 2 ILB relatively early seems a bit odd. Is it for this year?

I really haven't heard enough stafford talk (by that I mean fans/press/teams won't shut up about the clear #1) I could see Detroit going T or DE-the traditional "we finally have a high pick" draft picks that many successful teams make. I think (or maybe hope) that they've figured out they don't have to draft offensive skill position players over and over, "key cogs" are great too.

 
Looks like Carolina will trade Peppers for at least a first round pick so they will move back into the first.
:thumbup: or something you heard on radio/TV? Is Peppers worth significantly more than Jason Taylor - 2009 2nd and 2010 6th, which is quite a bit less than a current 1st round pick (due to the delayed gratification). He might be, as Peppers is 5 years younger.Why would they want to trade Pep? He seems to be a key to their defense.
It's on ESPN's front page for NFL. It's Peppers who wants out because he "wants to reach his full potential" and it sounds unclear if the Panthers would franchise him which would cost $17 million, ouch.
What does that even mean? Philly could deal the Panthers their own pick back. Parker and Cole are a solid duo, but Pep would "reach his full potential" there.

 
I would guess Vince Young or Leinart are traded. Backup young QBs- to sit on the bench and learn- are not hard to find. I'm not sure they're worse than the 32 starting QBs.

 
Always appreciate the work put in to produce a 2 rounder this early in the process.

- I agree with Andy that Wells is too high. I don't think a team will spend a top 15-20 pick on a player with his ?s

- Early word is that Monroe is decisively ahead of Jason Smith and Oher

- I dont see Boone as a first day pick, maybe not even a top 100 pick

- Ill be surprised if Moala falls to 59

- I dont know if Jackson fits in what Indy tries to do on D, and hes not a first rounder

- Freeman will have to blow people away in workouts to get that high

- James Casey belongs somewhere in this mock

- Loadholt is not a first rounder

- Michael Johnson likely gets in the first on physical potential alone. If he impresses, he could still get in the top 20 or even force a reach into the top 10

- Im not sure Chung is a first rounder.

Solid work, I'd imagine at least you hit around 60-70% of the eventual first day at worst. Lots will change over the next few months...
:thumbup: always good to see Mr. Bloom's :thumbup: I've seen Oher dropped to the 20s, but I don't see how/why he would go that low. What am I missing?

 
I would guess Vince Young or Leinart are traded. Backup young QBs- to sit on the bench and learn- are not hard to find. I'm not sure they're worse than the 32 starting QBs.
If Warner and Collins weren't 36+ I could see it. Plus, Adams likes VY, so it would be hard to trade him.
 
Always appreciate the work put in to produce a 2 rounder this early in the process.

- I agree with Andy that Wells is too high. I don't think a team will spend a top 15-20 pick on a player with his ?s

- Early word is that Monroe is decisively ahead of Jason Smith and Oher

- I dont see Boone as a first day pick, maybe not even a top 100 pick

- Ill be surprised if Moala falls to 59

- I dont know if Jackson fits in what Indy tries to do on D, and hes not a first rounder

- Freeman will have to blow people away in workouts to get that high

- James Casey belongs somewhere in this mock

- Loadholt is not a first rounder

- Michael Johnson likely gets in the first on physical potential alone. If he impresses, he could still get in the top 20 or even force a reach into the top 10

- Im not sure Chung is a first rounder.

Solid work, I'd imagine at least you hit around 60-70% of the eventual first day at worst. Lots will change over the next few months...
:lmao: always good to see Mr. Bloom's :2cents: I've seen Oher dropped to the 20s, but I don't see how/why he would go that low. What am I missing?
He's still a baby with respect to football (two years of HS ball), and that's because he had a real rough childhood and is still just coming out of his shell - there could be questions about how he'll hold up under the intense pressure of a pro football career. On one hand, that means he might have the highest ceiling of the first tier OTs, but he's also not as far along as the others.Still, there's a lot to sort out between the top OTs... right now we are peeking through keyholes, after the combine we will have a clearer picture of how the NFL regards this great class of OTs.

 
However, Titans will not be drafting a C...their old one is pro-bowl and their young one on the bench will be.I see Tennessee taking Harvin type WR/playmaker to go along with CJ. Also, LB and CB. They will also need a punter, as Hentrich will retire, though I doubt they draft one.
Titans take whomever falls to them or trade it away.(As of now-before FA) they have a very good set of starters and not many starting spots would even be upgraded by a rook. Meanwhile most other teams are looking for an impact player in the 1st. Really think this is a case of "suhweet he fell to us" or "let's gear up for 2010".They need some depth, they don't really need starters.
 
I would guess Vince Young or Leinart are traded. Backup young QBs- to sit on the bench and learn- are not hard to find. I'm not sure they're worse than the 32 starting QBs.
If Warner and Collins weren't 36+ I could see it. Plus, Adams likes VY, so it would be hard to trade him.
there's a poutiness to them that ....eh just a guess
 
I do like the Packers drafting beef in both rounds. I like beef. Beef is good. Under your scenario I hope they find more beef in the third, a DT would be my preference.

 
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However, Titans will not be drafting a C...their old one is pro-bowl and their young one on the bench will be.I see Tennessee taking Harvin type WR/playmaker to go along with CJ. Also, LB and CB. They will also need a punter, as Hentrich will retire, though I doubt they draft one.
Titans take whomever falls to them or trade it away.(As of now-before FA) they have a very good set of starters and not many starting spots would even be upgraded by a rook. Meanwhile most other teams are looking for an impact player in the 1st. Really think this is a case of "suhweet he fell to us" or "let's gear up for 2010".They need some depth, they don't really need starters.
Titans MO in the first (in the whole draft really) seems to be taking the tools and overlooking the polish/intangibles. For that reason DHB isn't a bad pick, although their reluctance to take a WR high or invest heavily in one in FA makes me wonder if there isnt just a team philosophy of de-emphasizing the position.
 
Always appreciate the work put in to produce a 2 rounder this early in the process.

- I agree with Andy that Wells is too high. I don't think a team will spend a top 15-20 pick on a player with his ?s

- Early word is that Monroe is decisively ahead of Jason Smith and Oher

- I dont see Boone as a first day pick, maybe not even a top 100 pick

- Ill be surprised if Moala falls to 59

- I dont know if Jackson fits in what Indy tries to do on D, and hes not a first rounder

- Freeman will have to blow people away in workouts to get that high

- James Casey belongs somewhere in this mock

- Loadholt is not a first rounder

- Michael Johnson likely gets in the first on physical potential alone. If he impresses, he could still get in the top 20 or even force a reach into the top 10

- Im not sure Chung is a first rounder.

Solid work, I'd imagine at least you hit around 60-70% of the eventual first day at worst. Lots will change over the next few months...
:lmao: always good to see Mr. Bloom's :D I've seen Oher dropped to the 20s, but I don't see how/why he would go that low. What am I missing?
He's still a baby with respect to football (two years of HS ball), and that's because he had a real rough childhood and is still just coming out of his shell - there could be questions about how he'll hold up under the intense pressure of a pro football career. On one hand, that means he might have the highest ceiling of the first tier OTs, but he's also not as far along as the others.Still, there's a lot to sort out between the top OTs... right now we are peeking through keyholes, after the combine we will have a clearer picture of how the NFL regards this great class of OTs.
I read a book about Michael Oher by Michael Lewis awhile back. I think it was called "Blindside". Michael Oher is dumb as a stump and was lucky to get into college. His educational development is WAY behind his age.
 
I think #22 is too high for Patrick Chung. I like the Minnesota trade with the Pats and think it is very realistic.

If the Pats end up with #22 and #23, I can see them taking Percy Harvin and Ebon Britton. They could then use their 2 2nds and 2 3rds on defense and a TE.

 
Looks like Carolina will trade Peppers for at least a first round pick so they will move back into the first.
;) or something you heard on radio/TV? Is Peppers worth significantly more than Jason Taylor - 2009 2nd and 2010 6th, which is quite a bit less than a current 1st round pick (due to the delayed gratification). He might be, as Peppers is 5 years younger.Why would they want to trade Pep? He seems to be a key to their defense.
It's on ESPN's front page for NFL. It's Peppers who wants out because he "wants to reach his full potential" and it sounds unclear if the Panthers would franchise him which would cost $17 million, ouch.
What does that even mean? Philly could deal the Panthers their own pick back. Parker and Cole are a solid duo, but Pep would "reach his full potential" there.
Speculation is that he wants to play in a 3-4 defense and probably on a team as good as or better than the Panthers. Doubtful that it would be a NFC team that the Panthers play , possibly any NFC team for that matter. What AFC teams run the 3-4 and are pretty good? hmmmmm......
 
12. Denver (8-8) – B.J. Raji, DT – Boston College13. Washington (8-8) - Michael Oher, OT – Mississippi
The more I'm thinking about Washington, the more I think they'll take Raji or the best OT on the board if they stay at 1.13.
 
As Vikings fan I think you see correct needs. We need a QB and OL help. Good job there but I would not be happy if we traded our 1st for Cassel. But logical. The Vikings need QB, RT, OC, DT, DE, CB, TE. With RT and QB being the only screaming need.

My wife is a Denver fan so I am also. I LOVE that you see they need defensive help. Lots of mocks have them taking a RB. That would be horrible. They need help on defense. But do consider they are switching to a 3-4. So I don't really know what kind of DL Raji and English are. I think Raji is a good pick regardless because they need starters on the DL and he would start immediately. Denver needs a true 3-4 NT, DE, DE, SS, RB, FS, OLB, OC, ILB, CB, RT. The team really is a mess. The needs at NT, DE, DE, SS, RB, FS, OLB, OC, and ILB are immediate.

So very good mock, IMO.

 
Always appreciate the work put in to produce a 2 rounder this early in the process.

- I agree with Andy that Wells is too high. I don't think a team will spend a top 15-20 pick on a player with his ?s

- Early word is that Monroe is decisively ahead of Jason Smith and Oher

- I dont see Boone as a first day pick, maybe not even a top 100 pick

- Ill be surprised if Moala falls to 59

- I dont know if Jackson fits in what Indy tries to do on D, and hes not a first rounder

- Freeman will have to blow people away in workouts to get that high

- James Casey belongs somewhere in this mock

- Loadholt is not a first rounder

- Michael Johnson likely gets in the first on physical potential alone. If he impresses, he could still get in the top 20 or even force a reach into the top 10

- Im not sure Chung is a first rounder.

Solid work, I'd imagine at least you hit around 60-70% of the eventual first day at worst. Lots will change over the next few months...
:shrug: always good to see Mr. Bloom's :thumbup: I've seen Oher dropped to the 20s, but I don't see how/why he would go that low. What am I missing?
He's still a baby with respect to football (two years of HS ball), and that's because he had a real rough childhood and is still just coming out of his shell - there could be questions about how he'll hold up under the intense pressure of a pro football career. On one hand, that means he might have the highest ceiling of the first tier OTs, but he's also not as far along as the others.Still, there's a lot to sort out between the top OTs... right now we are peeking through keyholes, after the combine we will have a clearer picture of how the NFL regards this great class of OTs.
I read a book about Michael Oher by Michael Lewis awhile back. I think it was called "Blindside". Michael Oher is dumb as a stump and was lucky to get into college. His educational development is WAY behind his age.
XHe actually is not dumb. Inexperienced, ignorant, uninformed, neglected, unexposed, or whatever term you want to use, but he is not "dumb". I just finished the book and from what it says, he catches on extremely quick. He just doesn't have the frame of reference most of us take for granted. His IQ even increased, which doesn't usually happen.

There is an element of risk with him of course, but from what I could tell, he has a good chance to succeed at a high level.

 
Looks like Carolina will trade Peppers for at least a first round pick so they will move back into the first.
:shrug: or something you heard on radio/TV? Is Peppers worth significantly more than Jason Taylor - 2009 2nd and 2010 6th, which is quite a bit less than a current 1st round pick (due to the delayed gratification). He might be, as Peppers is 5 years younger.Why would they want to trade Pep? He seems to be a key to their defense.
It's on ESPN's front page for NFL. It's Peppers who wants out because he "wants to reach his full potential" and it sounds unclear if the Panthers would franchise him which would cost $17 million, ouch.
What does that even mean? Philly could deal the Panthers their own pick back. Parker and Cole are a solid duo, but Pep would "reach his full potential" there.
Speculation is that he wants to play in a 3-4 defense and probably on a team as good as or better than the Panthers. Doubtful that it would be a NFC team that the Panthers play , possibly any NFC team for that matter. What AFC teams run the 3-4 and are pretty good? hmmmmm......
I'm clearly wrong, but don't most DEs want to play in 4-3? I just don't get it. The dude was born in NC, went to school in NC, drafted by Carolina, played his whole career in Carolina. Only reason to leave is $$$.

 
Looks like Carolina will trade Peppers for at least a first round pick so they will move back into the first.
:link: or something you heard on radio/TV? Is Peppers worth significantly more than Jason Taylor - 2009 2nd and 2010 6th, which is quite a bit less than a current 1st round pick (due to the delayed gratification). He might be, as Peppers is 5 years younger.Why would they want to trade Pep? He seems to be a key to their defense.
It's on ESPN's front page for NFL. It's Peppers who wants out because he "wants to reach his full potential" and it sounds unclear if the Panthers would franchise him which would cost $17 million, ouch.
What does that even mean? Philly could deal the Panthers their own pick back. Parker and Cole are a solid duo, but Pep would "reach his full potential" there.
Speculation is that he wants to play in a 3-4 defense and probably on a team as good as or better than the Panthers. Doubtful that it would be a NFC team that the Panthers play , possibly any NFC team for that matter. What AFC teams run the 3-4 and are pretty good? hmmmmm......
Peppers is the most physically gifted athlete in the NFL for quite some time, unfortunately he plays hard on occasions. The knock on him out of UNC was that he took plays off, that was wrong, he takes entire games (and sometimes seasons, 2007) off. The panthers would be crazy to sign him to that type of money longterm. Get a ton of draft picks for him and be done with him. Always a love/hate relationship thing with him in Carolina.They offered him a contract that would make him the highest paid End in the game and he turned it down. There is something amiss in Charlotte about this.

 
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Looks like Carolina will trade Peppers for at least a first round pick so they will move back into the first.
:lmao: or something you heard on radio/TV? Is Peppers worth significantly more than Jason Taylor - 2009 2nd and 2010 6th, which is quite a bit less than a current 1st round pick (due to the delayed gratification). He might be, as Peppers is 5 years younger.Why would they want to trade Pep? He seems to be a key to their defense.
It's on ESPN's front page for NFL. It's Peppers who wants out because he "wants to reach his full potential" and it sounds unclear if the Panthers would franchise him which would cost $17 million, ouch.
What does that even mean? Philly could deal the Panthers their own pick back. Parker and Cole are a solid duo, but Pep would "reach his full potential" there.
Speculation is that he wants to play in a 3-4 defense and probably on a team as good as or better than the Panthers. Doubtful that it would be a NFC team that the Panthers play , possibly any NFC team for that matter. What AFC teams run the 3-4 and are pretty good? hmmmmm......
Peppers is the most physically gifted athlete in the NFL for quite some time, unfortunately he plays hard on occasions. The knock on him out of UNC was that he took plays off, that was wrong, he takes entire games (and sometimes seasons, 2007) off. The panthers would be crazy to sign him to that type of money longterm. Get a ton of draft picks for him and be done with him. Always a love/hate relationship thing with him in Carolina.They offered him a contract that would make him the highest paid End in the game and he turned it down. There is something amiss in Charlotte about this.
Overstate your case much?
 
Avery said:
pantherclub said:
patrickmcgroin said:
-OZ- said:
Chachi said:
-OZ- said:
pantherclub said:
Looks like Carolina will trade Peppers for at least a first round pick so they will move back into the first.
:unsure: or something you heard on radio/TV? Is Peppers worth significantly more than Jason Taylor - 2009 2nd and 2010 6th, which is quite a bit less than a current 1st round pick (due to the delayed gratification). He might be, as Peppers is 5 years younger.Why would they want to trade Pep? He seems to be a key to their defense.
It's on ESPN's front page for NFL. It's Peppers who wants out because he "wants to reach his full potential" and it sounds unclear if the Panthers would franchise him which would cost $17 million, ouch.
What does that even mean? Philly could deal the Panthers their own pick back. Parker and Cole are a solid duo, but Pep would "reach his full potential" there.
Speculation is that he wants to play in a 3-4 defense and probably on a team as good as or better than the Panthers. Doubtful that it would be a NFC team that the Panthers play , possibly any NFC team for that matter. What AFC teams run the 3-4 and are pretty good? hmmmmm......
Peppers is the most physically gifted athlete in the NFL for quite some time, unfortunately he plays hard on occasions. The knock on him out of UNC was that he took plays off, that was wrong, he takes entire games (and sometimes seasons, 2007) off. The panthers would be crazy to sign him to that type of money longterm. Get a ton of draft picks for him and be done with him. Always a love/hate relationship thing with him in Carolina.They offered him a contract that would make him the highest paid End in the game and he turned it down. There is something amiss in Charlotte about this.
Overstate your case much?
Do you not think this is the case?
 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I do like the Packers drafting beef in both rounds. I like beef. Beef is good. Under your scenario I hope they find more beef in the third, a DT would be my preference.
I like beef too. They would trade down 10 spots I think if their guy isn't there and grab their #2 player later in the 1st.
 
PERFECT Bucs draft. I couldn't be happier if the Bucs draft went like that.
Yes I would love it if they drafted a qb in the first or second round but I dont see it. I see them getting one through Free Agency and working on the Defense in the 1st round.
 

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